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SeanC
23rd January 2018, 06:51 PM
So I received my LLAMS yesterday.

There is a calibration method on the inside the back plate of the module.

In the Installation and Calibration Instruction Sheet they also have axle pairing and averaging axle pairs.

Any real advantages with the axle pairing or do you stick with the instructions inside of the module back plate?

Thanks

Graeme
23rd January 2018, 07:25 PM
Axle-pairing can be technically slightly better than without but in practice you're not likely to spot any difference. The digital representation of the voltage difference between normal and off-road height for a sensor is in the hundreds whereas left to right differences are usually less than 10 - rather insignificant.

If fitting to a D4 then the module should already be calibrated for a D4 with axle-pairing set and low=20mm but if wanting low=35mm then it will have to be calibrated. If for a MY05-06 D3 then best to use the inbuilt default calibrations for these model years but for MY07-09 the module will have to be calibrated.

PS Thanks for purchasing the kit.

WALRDS
24th January 2018, 05:39 PM
Hey just a quick one, I am just about to order the LLAMS kit for my D4 and just want to know does the factory height adjustment button still work once it is installed? or do you have to use the Llams height selector?

cheers

loanrangie
24th January 2018, 05:43 PM
It still works as normal, the website will tell you how it works.

Graeme
24th January 2018, 05:53 PM
Here are the D3/D4 installation instructions.

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LRD414
24th January 2018, 07:04 PM
And this thread has some useful information and details about using Llams and how the suspension works:

< LLAMS Operation (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/237630-llams-operation.html) >

Cheers,
Scott

DieselLSE
24th January 2018, 07:15 PM
Just fitted LLAMS the other day to my D4. Worked as advertised with no need to calibrate. I had disconnected the battery and on start up no error codes were registered on the Nanocom. As far as the D4 is concerned, it doesn't even know the LLAMS is there!
Just a word of warning, though. If you have, say, left the LLAMS on in extended mode and shut the vehicle down (for example, you're fitting a long range tank and made use of the extra clearance) be careful when shutting up shop for the night. Although the car is happily sleeping, LLAMS is still wide awake, displaying a red light. If you turn it off, five seconds later the car will lower to the D4 selected height. Just make sure you have removed your trolley jack from under the car. Just made it!

DieselLSE
24th January 2018, 07:32 PM
Hey just a quick one, I am just about to order the LLAMS kit for my D4 and just want to know does the factory height adjustment button still work once it is installed? or do you have to use the Llams height selector?

cheers
Sorry, meant to address this in my post above. Yes, the factory system works as per usual. It is not even aware LLAMS is fitted. LLAMS allows you to alter the setting dynamically (after you have made your factory selection). I expect to only use it in the following circumstances:
1. D4 Normal, freeway cruising, LLAMS to -20 to reduce drag
2. D4 High, sandy track allows safe low range cruising above lowering speed, D4 to Normal LLAMS at medium raised (+30)
3. D4 High, river crossing, LLAMS to medium raised (+30) or extended depending on surface
4. D4 Access, to help 99yo aunt into car, LLAMS -20

I'm sure I'll find other uses. It certainly helps with working under the car, but note my warning above!

WALRDS
24th January 2018, 09:21 PM
Awesome, Thanks for the Help

Cannon
25th January 2018, 12:23 PM
Sorry, meant to address this in my post above. Yes, the factory system works as per usual. It is not even aware LLAMS is fitted. LLAMS allows you to alter the setting dynamically (after you have made your factory selection). I expect to only use it in the following circumstances:
1. D4 Normal, freeway cruising, LLAMS to -20 to reduce drag
2. D4 High, sandy track allows safe low range cruising above lowering speed, D4 to Normal LLAMS at medium raised (+30)
3. D4 High, river crossing, LLAMS to medium raised (+30) or extended depending on surface
4. D4 Access, to help 99yo aunt into car, LLAMS -20

I'm sure I'll find other uses. It certainly helps with working under the car, but note my warning above!

How do you go with tyre wear etc driving around at -20?

DieselLSE
26th January 2018, 10:02 AM
How do you go with tyre wear etc driving around at -20?
-20 is invoked by the EAS automatically above 160km/h (I think; something like that) so manually invoking it at 110km/h should have no impact on tyre wear.

loanrangie
26th January 2018, 10:48 AM
A landrover above 160kph - eek.

Tombie
26th January 2018, 12:21 PM
A landrover above 160kph - eek.

They’re like it’s a 2.7t Go-kart...

Done it several times, very composed all the way to the limiter...


Even old ‘Lara’ was good for a $1.60 [emoji41]

Creaser
26th January 2018, 06:26 PM
I need to drop access height for elderly person. Is llams overkill just for that application?

Cannon
26th January 2018, 06:51 PM
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/186963-gap-iidtool-lams-unit-height-control.html?186963=#post2038827[smilebigeye]

Cannon
26th January 2018, 06:53 PM
and another.

Gap Diagnostic IID Tool Questions (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/247552-gap-diagnostic-iid-tool-questions.html)

LRD414
26th January 2018, 07:28 PM
I need to drop access height for elderly person. Is llams overkill just for that application?
Depends how often you need a height that's lower than access height.
Llams is by far the most convenient way to do it but the Gap iiD diagnostic tool, once setup, can do it reasonably easily too.
If it was a frequent task I would be getting Llams for sure.

Scott

letherm
27th January 2018, 12:42 AM
I need to drop access height for elderly person. Is llams overkill just for that application?

I have the same situation with my wife who has trouble getting into and out of the car. I have the bluetooth version of the Gapiid tool and use it at least twice for each trip we make of which there is at least one per week sometimes 4 or 5. I agree that the LLAMS is a quick system but I can change the setting down to bump stops with a few taps on the phone : launch the app on my phone, select the car in the app, select height control, confirm, select bump stops and confirm. 6 taps all up which takes a few seconds. I could make this process quicker by using another option but haven't got around to it. This option allows you to set up 3 settings eg, access less 20, normal plus 20 to overcome the 50 kph off road limit etc. The number of taps is reduced if this is done. I was going to buy a LLAMS kit but the added functionality of the GAP tool pushed me that way. I've been very happy with my choice but yes the LLAMS would be quicker and from what I have read on the forum is an excellent system.


Martin