Gloves are off, but I want a good clean fight.

[crump]

Defender or Disco or Rangie??

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">better for what...?
comfort or ability or a compromise between the two....?
or looks....?</span>

[crump]

you tell me.

[disco95]

I went the all rounder. :wink:

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">the defender is the most capable straight out of the box......
it will get you there...wherever you need to go....slowly but surely...
and it will fit and carry all your gear......

if you are not fussed with too much comfort and trendy looks......
or aerodynamics and speed.......

then defender is the best.....if you dont believe me ask discowhite....
he got rid of his disco for a defender....</span>

[harry]

8) this is bound to be a nonsense poll.
i voted disco, 'cause its better than a ford gt 40 to get into in the morning to drive to work.
why?
'cause there ain't a ford gt 40 in my garage!

[crump]

no cop outs alllowed, state your case. :twisted:

[crump]

Originally posted by harry
8) this is bound to be a nonsense poll.
i voted disco, 'cause its better than a ford gt 40 to get into in the morning to drive to work.
why?
'cause there ain't a ford gt 40 in my garage!

of course it is, I posted it. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[crump]

For me it started when I watched Harry Butler drive to Durba Springs in a Series job, (yep, still have all the videos), I was a big fan and as a kid would see a 110 County and lust after it, that was gonna be the 4by I would have one day, so 30years later it had to be a Fender, simple as that.Onya Harry, Irwin aint the **** onya boot.

[Jamo]

Disco.

If I'd wanted a Defender over a Disco, I'd have bought one (two actually, for the price of the D3).

The Fender is probably the better bush vehicle, if onyl for the fact that it relies on less gizmos.

My D3 can now probably go as far as a Fender, if not further, and can do so with a far greater degree of comfort and occupant safety.

If I could afford it, I'd have Fender, m D3 and a Rangie Vogue.

[Jamo]

Originally posted by crump
For me it started when I watched Harry Butler drive to Durba Springs in a Series job, (yep, still have all the videos), I was a big fan and as a kid would see a 110 County and lust after it, that was gonna be the 4by I would have one day, so 30years later it had to be a Fender, simple as that.Onya Harry, Irwin aint the sh*t onya boot.

Yeah, me too. I've got the books from the first two series he did. Dad took me to see Harry and got the book autographed!

I pity da fool that doesn't like Harry Butler!

[LandyAndy]

Hi Guys
I voted Disco.
I have no Rangie experience at all,but basically Classic Rangie/Disco 1 are the same vehicle.The mighty Series Landy is overlooked here,despite being very agricultural, off road they demand alot of respect.Despite all my Disco2's electronics,it wont look at stuff my Series Landys eat.BUT in the Disco I arrive in comfort,do the deed in comfort COMFORTABLY and drive home in comfort and economically.
Andrew

[discomaniac]

Yep, the Disco,
Have had 3 discos now. D1, D2 and D3. I am sure the Defender can go to as many places (well almost??) as the Discovery, but the Discovery gets you there much more comfortably!!!!

Actually, I am willing to wager that a standard D3 can actually go further in any conditions (let me repeat any conditons) than the almighty standard Defender.

Let me repeat again Standard Defender up against my standard D3 TDV6, the D3 will come out on top in ALL situations!! (sorry my D3 is not totally standard, I went for the Lower Console Coolbox option to keep the beers cold while I waited for the competing Defenders to catch up)

The Series Landy's were good, the Defenders are Great, the Range Rovers are comfortable, but overall, my Discovery 3 (and any one elses Discovery 3 for that matter) can go further than any Defender in a given test on a given day!!!! :wink:

(Well I bloody well hope so, I am paying enough for the thing :evil: )

I will assume that I am correct in all counts if no one here takes on the Discovery 3 Owners 8)

(Hope I haven't started a division here between loyal LR owners 8O )

[crump]

Originally posted by Jamo+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jamo)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-crump
For me it started when I watched Harry Butler drive to Durba Springs in a Series job, (yep, still have all the videos), I was a big fan and as a kid would see a 110 County and lust after it, that was gonna be the 4by I would have one day, so 30years later it had to be a Fender, simple as that.Onya Harry, Irwin aint the sh*t onya boot.

Yeah, me too. I've got the books from the first two series he did. Dad took me to see Harry and got the book autographed!

I pity da fool that doesn't like Harry Butler![/b][/quote]
Man, you and I got a lot in common, won a comp in grade 5 and got to meet the man, and still have all my autographed copies of all the books, including the DEAR Harry series, effin legend, Landrover owes him an OBE.

[crump]

Originally posted by discomaniac
Yep, the Disco,
Have had 3 discos now. D1, D2 and D3. I am sure the Defender can go to as many places (well almost??) as the Discovery, but the Discovery gets you there much more comfortably!!!!

Actually, I am willing to wager that a standard D3 can actually go further in any conditions (let me repeat any conditons) than the almighty standard Defender.

Let me repeat again Standard Defender up against my standard D3 TDV6, the D3 will come out on top in ALL situations!! (sorry my D3 is not totally standard, I went for the Lower Console Coolbox option to keep the beers cold while I waited for the competing Defenders to catch up)

The Series Landy's were good, the Defenders are Great, the Range Rovers are comfortable, but overall, my Discovery 3 (and any one elses Discovery 3 for that matter) can go further than any Defender in a given test on a given day!!!! :wink:

(Well I bloody well hope so, I am paying enough for the thing :evil: )

I will assume that I am correct in all counts if no one here takes on the Discovery 3 Owners 8)

(Hope I haven't started a division here between loyal LR owners 8O )

No, I've already started that, so why is the D3 better? Forget comfort etc, but what articulation,wheel travel, why would it flog my Fender?No panic I'm Fender loyal for reasons already stated, just interested?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Discovery.

The new one will EAT a,,
Defender at anything except noise.
Range Rover at anything,, including resale!

[hiline]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>My D3 can now probably go as far as a Fender, if not further, and can do so with a far greater degree of comfort and occupant safety. [/b][/quote]

mate your dreaming 8O :wink:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Dunno hiline---

maybe this time its you

8O :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Grizzly_Adams]

Series and Defender.

Why?

Because whilst the current disco is very good (no contention there), there's just too many gadgets in there and in 20 years time when all the discos are rotting in graveyards because they'll be too expensive to fix their black boxes, I'll be driving past in my Defender :-)

LR is, like other car manufacturers, steering people towards a "disposable car" society - you can't afford to keep the vehicle after warranty expires so you go and get a new one; or if you can afford it then all the better for LR as it costs a fortune to replace some of the parts :roll:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

BONG!,,
wrong--
in twenty years time all the electronics for a Disco will be on sale at the local 7eleven
for $50

just think what YOU knew as electronics 20 years ago,,

we've come a LONG way baby---

and the D3 will STILL kick your defender butt 20 years from now. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Grizzly_Adams]

ok then lets take an example.

20 year old vehicle with electronic black boxes? Lets take a look at the p38a rangie. Good car, goes well when it goes - however it has some black box components in there that are more expensive than the cost of a 2nd hand p38 these days (information I have gathered from this forum).

Sorry I'm naturally pessimistic 8O I'll believe it when I see it type stuff :roll:

.. and I'm sure someone will correct me by saying that the p38 didn't come out until 1988 or something, but I figured it was a close enough example that most people should recognise... :-)

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I'm sure someone will tell us when that RR was released,,,

the technology in a Defender is pretty
um, er,
trustworthy,,(simple is such a harsh word--)

the difference is when the d3 works,
its better.
And it wont take a quarter of that 20 years to make the D3 electrics bullet proof,
As an industry,, it takes Automotive very little time to fix electronics.


And,,
(I kept this for last--:wink: )

are you saying Disco's are a THROWAWAY
car???

[51jay]

Quote "The Series Landy's were good, the Defenders are Great, the Range Rovers are comfortable, but overall, my Discovery 3 (and any one elses Discovery 3 for that matter) can go further than any Defender in a given test on a given day!!!! " Quote

Failure to finnish due to ECU or other electronic glitches doesn't count https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[51jay]

When I bought the Vogue last year I was wanting a go anywhere car to last me the next 10 to 15 years. I bought the 93 vogue for the following reasons
like the colour
has the comfort level these tired old bones require
had air susp replaced with springs (cost of maintainance)
had reasonable mods...Winch bar, spare wheel carrier,bash plate for front dif, rear maxidif, long range tank allready in place.

I'm replacing petrol V8 with modified TDI 300 (no electronics)
2" lift with 16x8 wheels and 265 75 16 BFG A/Ts.

on this lot I can do most of the ongoing repairs/replacements myself regardless of where we are......It will never come back from outer wup wup on the back of a truck 'cos I can't get it out of "limp home mode" https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Electronics for Old landrover/RR/Disco will allways be expensive.

Well I'm halfway to MY best Landy/Rangie. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ each to his own

[Grizzly_Adams]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
are you saying Disco's are a THROWAWAY
car???

Isn't that what you've just done? :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[JDNSW]

Before you can answer your question, you have to define what you mean by "best".
And you left out the Series Landrovers.
The advantage of the Defender over all the other ones that you allow as alternatives is that it is much more fixable than the others - for example, the only structural part that both rusts and can't be repaired by simple welding is the bulkhead. Because it has been in production without major change for nearly twenty-five years many parts are available from wreckers or third party suppliers. But whether this makes it best depends on how you define best.
Another advantage of the Defender is that (at least in the 110) it has far more room than the others, particularly height in those with closed body. But whether this makes it best depends on how you define best.
Another advantage of the Defender is that it is narrower than the others, a big advantage in some areas. But whether this makes it best depends on how you define best.
Another advantage of the Defender is that its off road ability is better than any of the others as standard except perhaps for the D3, and does it without adding a lot of mechanical or electrical complexity. But whether this makes it best depends on how you define best.

As far as the argument that in twenty years time the electronics will be readily available and cheap - afraid not. Electronics that will do a similar job will certainly be available and cheap, but electronics that will work in your D3 will probably not be available at any price. This will apply particularly to to things like sensors and anything else that interfaces with the mechanical world, but will also apply particularly to ECUs. I am reminded of my computer. Still perfectly adequate for my uses, but developed a motherboard fault - parts not available, and furthermore, nobody knows how to repair motherboards these days - and you can't get a motherboard that is a straight swap, so new computer.
A major problem with new military (or civil for that matter) aircraft today is that by the time a design is thoroughly tested and accepted, the electronics is thoroughly outdated, and in several cases production of the electronics has had to be restarted so production of the aircraft can start. And there will be no chance of finding any spares once the stock of spares made during the production run are used up. Same applies to today's cars, but being much less valuable, storing spares for many years is just not on.

[disconut]

Originally posted by hiline
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>My D3 can now probably go as far as a Fender, if not further, and can do so with a far greater degree of comfort and occupant safety.

mate your dreaming 8O :wink:[/b][/quote]

I agree with Hiline.

Firstly after 3 Disco's, (traded the last one, ES TD5 SII for the fender), you are correct on comfort and safety. Go anywhere I can? as above, your dreaming!

I have been on tracks where I went into gully's with the front bumper and rear end just missing the entry and exit points. (It was actually a dune buggy race track on the side of the Maranoa River, (Mitchell Qld), with very steep approach and departure angles, narrow sections and very tight turns). Even a 110 would be lucky to make it.

The D3 would be too wide, too long and too heavy to follow me. The D3 is a very capable vehicle but know your limitations. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trev.

PS The people that made my TD5 electronics are more than likely the same people that made yours, so from that side of things they are just as unreliable as each other. But, electronics wont get rid of weight. Mine weighs 1800 kgs, yours around 3000 kgs (guess?). Dependent on the terrain, you will sink first. Top Gear's show of a D3 climbing a Scottish Highlands Mountain was excellent, but once it hit the peat bog, game over.

[YRVGreen]

$ for $ and I am sure you must only be talking about New trucks, as I do not see any S2a's on that list,..

$ for $ The Defender wins hands down, as the more capible options,.. and the money that will need to be spent on bringing the Disco up to scratch with a Defender would be way more then the money to be spent bringing The Defender up to a higher class of living standard,
compare the prices, then look at the lux, then work out the cost of getting exactly what you want in both,

alot of work will need to be done addapting the disco approach angles, among other things, wich $ for $ if you spend it on a defender you could get some sweet leather seat, (even if it is only made from goats or somthing) move the hand breakl, dont get "factory" air con, so - that add on, and add your own unit, lots of bits means you get exactly what you want and how you want it,

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by Grizzly_Adams+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Grizzly_Adams)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Pedro_The_Swift
are you saying Disco's are a THROWAWAY
car???

Isn't that what you've just done? :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/[/b][/quote]


so,, you will keep yours forever? :roll:

[Jamo]

Originally posted by hiline
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>My D3 can now probably go as far as a Fender, if not further, and can do so with a far greater degree of comfort and occupant safety.

mate your dreaming 8O :wink:[/b][/quote]

I dunno... Now that it's got a winch, rear locker and STT's (and a snorkel as soon as ones available) I'd be willing to test it out! :wink:

[disconut]

jamo,
Do all that to a fender and you are back where you started. :?

Trev.

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">anyone for fishing.....?
theres a heap of bait here.... </span>https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[crump]

yep, hook, line and sinker. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[dungarover]

Go the Rangie :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Why :?: Well, cheap to buy and trash (don't pay mor than $5K for one IMO), they go hard off-road and dead easy to work on even the later models. They also have a good 'feel' on road and sure-footedness off-road as well. I also find then the best balanced LR overall.

I've owned a 93 Disco a few years back and ****ed it off after 8 months and bough my 93 'Aquarangie' to replace it, best thing I done.

Best Rangie models up to early 98 with the LT230 box. You're stuck with the 3.5 'flapper' EFI system buy you can't have everything.

The sad fact is that the classic Rangies are getting harder and harder to find in good condition so Discos may be my next LR to kill in the future. I don't mind the 94 onwards S1 and I do like the S2 Disco (V8's of course, not poofy diesels :twisted: ).

P38's are too complicated for me and my old man has one which is enough to put me of (HVAC cost $2600 to replace last week, not the sort of money I like spending unless it's to improve off-road performance :x ).

Regards,

Trav

[stevo68]

Obviously D3 cause I dunno any better :wink: and i freakin love it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ . As far as I can see so far on my limit trips with GCLRO all the landies perform well no matter what the model or the age. Yep thats me the diplomat https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ ,

Regards

Stevo

[Captain_Rightfoot]

I love this thread! It's a stirr.. but great fun https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

We only really considered 3 options when buying a 4wd. We wanted a car that we would get 10+ years out of including multiple punishing trips.

1) classic rangie (pre 85).
2) 2/3yo disco.
3) Defender.

I spent substantial time investigating 1. My friend has them up to his armpits! On the positive... they sound great... comfy, capable. On the negative.. It's hard to get a good one. And, they are getting old now. It's hard to find them in low mileage, and even then you have to worry about rubbers and seals hardening. They are smallish. On average they need a lot of loving to keep them going.. and I don't have a lot of time. Repairs are expensive, and they DRINK!. I didn't think it likely that I would get one that would last 10+ years.

2) Good option this... good car. Positives comfy, nice car to drive around town. Negatives.. Was never fully convinced about the reliability of the electronics. In the end they were expensive still in that range. They are smaller than the fender. The need more setup to do offroading equivalent to fender from standard. They are a pretty car... have to worry about scratching and interior. If they are set up and used for offroading their re-sale would be effected.

3) Fender..positives. BIG , offroad setup excellent from standard, no worries hoseout interior, no worries exterior, quite cheap new. Less electronics than DII. Downsides... noisy, less comfy than 1 or 2, not as good towncar.

In the end Chuck Yeagars words "the best plane is the newest plane" pushed me away from option 1.

Option 2 and 3 were a very close call. We went for option 3 obviously in the end. I only regret it when I don't get out in the fender for a while. Sometimes I think option 2 would have been better. Sometimes I think the fender is just perfect https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[dungarover]

Originally posted by Captain_Rightfoot
I love this thread! It's a stirr.. but great fun https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

We only really considered 3 options when buying a 4wd. We wanted a car that we would get 10+ years out of including multiple punishing trips.

1) classic rangie (pre 85).
2) 2/3yo disco.
3) Defender.

I spent substantial time investigating 1. My friend has them up to his armpits! On the positive... they sound great... comfy, capable. On the negative.. It's hard to get a good one. And, they are getting old now. It's hard to find them in low mileage, and even then you have to worry about rubbers and seals hardening. They are smallish. On average they need a lot of loving to keep them going.. and I don't have a lot of time. Repairs are expensive, and they DRINK!. I didn't think it likely that I would get one that would last 10+ years.

2) Good option this... good car. Positives comfy, nice car to drive around town. Negatives.. Was never fully convinced about the reliability of the electronics. In the end they were expensive still in that range. They are smaller than the fender. The need more setup to do offroading equivalent to fender from standard. They are a pretty car... have to worry about scratching and interior. If they are set up and used for offroading their re-sale would be effected.

3) Fender..positives. BIG , offroad setup excellent from standard, no worries hoseout interior, no worries exterior, quite cheap new. Less electronics than DII. Downsides... noisy, less comfy than 1 or 2, not as good towncar.

In the end Chuck Yeagars words "the best plane is the newest plane" pushed me away from option 1.

Option 2 and 3 were a very close call. We went for option 3 obviously in the end. I only regret it when I don't get out in the fender for a while. Sometimes I think option 2 would have been better. Sometimes I think the fender is just perfect https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I think this shows that we all have differing needs.

Mine were had to be cheap, go hard off-road and not worry about scratching it, had to be V8 EFI (sick of carby Rangies although they are the best carb set-up), maxi had to be able to be retro-fitted. Fuel economy wasn't an issue, it's a weekend flogger :twisted: :twisted:

This ruled out the Disco becaue from mid 93 onwards the axle flange set-up was totally diffrent from the older models and I would have been better off starting from scratch as the axles would of been too long to fit 8O

So I bought my 87 for $4K, had to replace the engine for $1K. Still at $5K you can't find anything that matches it for comfort and style. So that suits me https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Regards,

Trav

[hiline]

Originally posted by Jamo+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jamo)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-hiline
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>My D3 can now probably go as far as a Fender, if not further, and can do so with a far greater degree of comfort and occupant safety.

mate your dreaming 8O :wink:[/b][/quote]

I dunno... Now that it's got a winch, rear locker and STT's (and a snorkel as soon as ones available) I'd be willing to test it out! :wink:[/b][/quote]

now where is that photo of the kubota pulling the D3 through the snow 8O :wink:

but really its unfair to compare against the kubota https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

thats built for 4wdriving https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

[Ace]

I went for disco, but if i tell you why i will have to kill you. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Nah, i dont really care, i wanted a fender but couldnt afford an extreme. So i settled for the comfort but good ability off road option instead. In the end i dont really care, they are all good. As long as it has a Land Rover badge it gets my vote. Matt

[joe]

Car makers stoped makeing good cars after the mid '80's and rolled out weak , over complex , nambie pambie goin' to let you down sooner than latter crud boxes :x . All this in the name of greener ways and safety? , Yet they explode into so much scrap if they hit anything at over 40k's and cost the earth to fix.
How many times on this forum do I see you lot going on about "The dealer is crud they wont fix this or that dont fit proper , then all the probs with ABS , Efi , Ems and the cup holders are to small :roll: .
Give me an old Landy or pre-'80's Rangie any old day and hers why;
1) the dealer died years ago.
2) Nothing is ment to fit proper from day one.
3) Abs? pump foot , Efi? put a electric fuel pump on , Ems? if it stops somthing aint right , cup holders? "hey kids hold this for dady".

But at the end of the day it's anything as long as it has a landy badge on it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ (or Range Rover badge)

[noddy]

Defender....when it is gone their resale will go through the roof (unlike the S2Discos and D3).

Relatively simple, reliable, light, can carry a small country town and capable offroad.

Series 1 & 2 Discos are too small for any extended trips with more than two people. D3 is just too bloody heavy and scary to comprehend in the bush without a decent service network (which is declining by the month).

[JDNSW]

Further to my comments on the future repairability of electronics. Eleven years ago I bought a solar tracker. A year ago the electronics spat the dummy. Turns out the company that made them has been taken over, the new company has no records of the design. There is no replacement for the circuit board. So far I have found only one company who is even prepared to try to repair it (in the absence of any data - it even has the chip numbers sanded off the ICs to prevent copying the design) - they have now had it for nearly a year after my sending it back for the second time. First time it failed again after a couple of weeks, second time it was dead out of the box.

This looks to me very much like the future for automotive electronics, unfortunately.

[sclarke]

i have had a Diesel Disco, V8 Disco and 110 Fender.

What is the best???

Around Town.
V8 Disco

Bush
Defender

[George130]

My defender because its mine :twisted:

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Originally posted by aquarangie

I think this shows that we all have differing needs.

Regards,

Trav
Exactly, I've often thought that If I wanted a extreme 4wd then a rangie like yours would be the ultimate weapon 8) 8) :twisted:

[RaZzA]

I voted for the rangie - here my reasons why.

I like the fender - but for me atm too much $$ with my rangie I won't have any issues going all out while off road and it wont worry me if I scratch it or get dents in it.

IMO - the other rovers look WAY too much like mummy football practice 4wd's you see in the burbs - sure you can do them up - but at what extra cost on top of paying for it in the first place>?

Hell - it took me a lot of research to agree with mates that my rangie was a decent off roader - was going to just trade it for a landcruiser https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Glad I didn't now tho!

sure its old - but parts are still around - people know them well & you can get your after market parts easy enough & there are always wreckers as well.
however in saying all that - I am not all up to date on the newer rangies https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[bk]

Defender:
because i got one and I need to justify my choice
Paul

[Bushie]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
BONG!,,
wrong--
in twenty years time all the electronics for a Disco will be on sale at the local 7eleven
for $50

just think what YOU knew as electronics 20 years ago,,

we've come a LONG way baby---

and the D3 will STILL kick your defender butt 20 years from now. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Yeah ? Well go out and buy me a new 5-1/4" drive for my 20 year old IBM AT.

Best - Criteria not defined!!!!!!!!!!

I bought my Defender cause it was what I wanted at the time, hence best. It still does what I want hence its still the best.



Bushie

[Redbak]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

There just aint no arguement ..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

[DiscoTDI]

Disco's, because the Defenders dont come with a V8 and I cant afford a Range Rover https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[crump]

Originally posted by Redbak
http://dalvisualdata.com.au/images/LROCV/forum/defendersrule.jpg

There just aint no arguement ..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

If thats a sticker, I want one, and if its not, AAAACCCCEEEE!!! are you there? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[dungarover]

Originally posted by DiscoTDI
Disco's, because the Defenders dont come with a V8 and I cant afford a Range Rover https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

The only 'real' Land Rover I liked is the V8 County. I'll say it once and I'll say it again I HATE DIESELS

Trav

[51jay]

GO GO GO the mighty V8


and mine is nearly gone.......my diesel motor should be here
tomorrow https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[YRVGreen]

Im sorry I dont recall who owns this defender,..
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/03/57.jpg
but with a sweet set up like that, how could you not love a Fender,
even if you spent 2 grand makeing it like that(4g's if you do the Auto too), your still in the best by far $ for $,

[Ralph1Malph]

Hi all,
I hate these polls :evil:
I always feel obligated to vote :wink:
Anyhoo,
I voted Disco coz thats the only landrover I have ever owned https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Also because I have driven or been driven a gazillion Km in both Army Series and D110s, all rough as guts (although they can pull the chicks!) :twisted:

Regards
Ralph

[VladTepes]

I voted for Defender coz I love the old style truck type fourbies, but I prefer the last option of the dog thing. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Omaroo]

I bought a Defender because I love the shape. Always have. It's the last bastion of the proper "utility vehicle". I get crap all through it - I gently hose it out. Dog hair? So what? A broome and a blast from the workshop compressor - good as new. I can stand on the wings to open the rooftop tent. I can climb all over the roof to get at stuff. I can do 140 on the freeway if I have to overtake a dill.

I just does everything.... and at the end of the day it only asks for 10L of dinosaur juice in exchange for the 100kays we just went.

[crump]

Originally posted by Omaroo
I bought a Defender because I love the shape. Always have. It's the last bastion of the proper "utility vehicle". I get crap all through it - I gently hose it out. Dog hair? So what? A broome and a blast from the workshop compressor - good as new. I can stand on the wings to open the rooftop tent. I can climb all over the roof to get at stuff. I can do 140 on the freeway if I have to overtake a dill.

I just does everything.... and at the end of the day it only asks for 10L of dinosaur juice in exchange for the 100kays we just went.

Love what you said, if you can make it rhyme we have a Defender owners anthem. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[abaddonxi]

Doesn't matter what you do, even if the Defender goes wrong in the worst way you'll still be coming back with change compared to the other guy.











Except the fella with the flying dog.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Simon

[Jamo]

[quote=DEFENDERZOOK]<span style="color:blue">anyone for fishing.....?
theres a heap of bait here.... </span>

I can definitely see your point Zook!

The Fender is lighter than the D3 and much easier to clean out. Sand gets into everything on the beach and it would be good to be able to hose out the back when its covered in bait and fish slime! :wink:

[blitz]

My pick of the bunch is a 416 Unimog errr hang on that wasn't a choice was it??

Oh well Disco after that coz I own one but if I was buying one it woudl be the Defender due to the hose out option (no carpet to worry about)

Blythe

[VladTepes]

Only 1 person voted for Elmer Fudd.


Was that you, Inc :?: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/