D2 rescues 2 4x4 from the sand

[bob10]

Looks like they did not let air out of the tyres, and certainly looked panicked. Any one from the forum ?

LAND ROVER DISCOVERY RECOVERY WEEKEND - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqWvsqbipZU)

[Eevo]

given the way it sinks when they try and take off, i would agree they are running highway pressure

[bob10]

I'm sure it doesn't matter what 4x4 you drive, if you are not schooled in the basics of recovery, chances are you will come to grief, eventually. Hopefully it was a lesson learned for those young people.

[Tins]

I'm sure it doesn't matter what 4x4 you drive, if you are not schooled in the basics of recovery, chances are you will come to grief, eventually. Hopefully it was a lesson learned for those young people.

Unless someone took the time to point out the mistakes, I doubt it, Bob. The young know everything, apparently. I know that I did...

[PhilipA]

Note the beer bottle next to the recovery bag.
might tell us something about the irrational actions.
regards Philip A

[County4.4]

The bloke i bought my first Series 3 from in Beachport when I was in my early 20's insisted on taking me out on the beach to teach me how to drive in the sand(we might have had a couple of travellers too)
After an hour on the beach and in the dunes getting purposely bogged and unbogged he told me I would have to be an idiot to ever get stuck in a defender on the beach.
20 years and 4 defenders later i never have.
As he said if-you really have to keep letting you tyres done until you can drive out .
Was a great lesson

[scarry]

The bloke i bought my first Series 3 from in Beachport when I was in my early 20's insisted on taking me out on the beach to teach me how to drive in the sand(we might have had a couple of travellers too)
After an hour on the beach and in the dunes getting purposely bogged and unbogged he told me I would have to be an idiot to ever get stuck in a defender on the beach.
20 years and 4 defenders later i never have.
As he said if-you really have to keep letting you tyres done until you can drive out .
Was a great lesson

I had many years of lessons when I was young,in the late 60's and early 70's on Fraser island.

In those days no one came along to help,we often didn't see another vehicle for two or three weeks.

I remember being bogged on the Western side of the island for the whole day,winching,digging,jacking,logs under the tyres,then winching again,then digging.And on it went,in the hot summer sun.This was in one of the first LWB series 3's.

It didn't take long to work out the SWB Series one had so much more capability in sand than the later model Series 3.

And with the trailer on,they were even more hopeless in the soft stuff.

No borded tracks around the rocks in those days on the eastern beach either.It was back to winching,digging,particularly if the trailer was on.

Those were the fun days.

[Tins]

The title of this thread is actually incorrect. There were THREE vehicles rescued by the D2. The last one was a ScoobyDo.

[uninformed]

I had many years of lessons when I was young,in the late 60's and early 70's on Fraser island.

In those days no one came along to help,we often didn't see another vehicle for two or three weeks.

I remember being bogged on the Western side of the island for the whole day,winching,digging,jacking,logs under the tyres,then winching again,then digging.And on it went,in the hot summer sun.This was in one of the first LWB series 3's.

It didn't take long to work out the SWB Series one had so much more capability in sand than the later model Series 3.

And with the trailer on,they were even more hopeless in the soft stuff.

No borded tracks around the rocks in those days on the eastern beach either.It was back to winching,digging,particularly if the trailer was on.

Those were the fun days.

Im wondering if weight was a big factor difference between the S1 and S3. LWB can definitely have its advantages in the sand. The S1 narrow little leaf springs did flex better than the S3...

[scarry]

Im wondering if weight was a big factor difference between the S1 and S3. LWB can definitely have its advantages in the sand. The S1 narrow little leaf springs did flex better than the S3...

Weight was definitely an issue,and the little 2.6 wasn't known for its power,only for its thirst,and burning valves as it aged.

In fact some preferred the smaller engine.

The bigger the vehicle,the more gear can be loaded into it.

I remember spare axles were part of the repair kit kept in each vehicle,but i can't remember one ever being used.



Here is an old pic of one.I am guessing it is early to mid '70's model.
These were fitted with three fuel tanks,and some also had a stainless water tank in the rear as well.
Some also had bars each side running from the front bar to above the windscreen,we used to call them 'scrub bars'.Very handy as the tracks in those days were overgrown.

A relatively new one was drowned up there and it was then called the 'yellow submarine'.
It was repaired by Annand and Thompson,not like todays vehicles which would have been an instant write off.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/432.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23kh11Q)[/url] [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/138972781@N07/] (https://flic.kr/p/23kh11Q)
Edit,geez it would be nice to have one in this condition today..[biggrin]

[uninformed]

Weight was definitely an issue,and the little 2.6 wasn't known for its power,only for its thirst,and burning valves as it aged.

In fact some preferred the smaller engine.

The bigger the vehicle,the more gear can be loaded into it.

I remember spare axles were part of the repair kit kept in each vehicle,but i can't remember one ever being used.



Here is an old pic of one.I am guessing it is early to mid '70's model.
These were fitted with three fuel tanks,and some also had a stainless water tank in the rear as well.
Some also had bars each side running from the front bar to above the windscreen,we used to call them 'scrub bars'.Very handy as the tracks in those days were overgrown.

A relatively new one was drowned up there and it was then called the 'yellow submarine'.
It was repaired by Annand and Thompson,not like todays vehicles which would have been an instant write off.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/429.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23kh11Q)

Edit,geez it would be nice to have one in this condition today..[biggrin]

Cant see the pic mate?

I loved my SIII swb truck cab, had some great fun in it. But the only Series I could own these days is a SI I like the 86" SWB. Other than that, coil sprung is just so much better in so many areas IMO, and lets face it, by todays standards a 300Tdi is pretty old school lol.

One thing id like to note, and hear commented on, is the sand type from east to west coast. One member here a while ago told me about the sand on the west coast being a lot softer and dryer. He grew up on the east coast and very familiar with it from experience. He now resides in WA

[Ferret]

...One member here a while ago told me about the sand on the west coast being a lot softer and dryer. He grew up on the east coast and very familiar with it from experience. He now resides in WA

That has been my experience also ~40 years on the east coast and ~20 years on the west coast.

The west coast sand tends to be much softer and powder like than the east sand in the hot, dry WA environment.

[Tins]

That has been my experience also ~40 years on the east coast and ~20 years on the west coast.

The west coast sand tends to be much softer and powder like than the east sand in the hot, dry WA environment.

Someone here pointed out that E coast sand, or more specifically Qld sand, is harder due to the coral component. Now, I'm no geologist, but I do know that coral is hard, so maybe there's something in what he said.

[uninformed]

That has been my experience also ~40 years on the east coast and ~20 years on the west coast.

The west coast sand tends to be much softer and powder like than the east sand in the hot, dry WA environment.

The first time I went to Fraser Isl in my 110, i drove for 2 days at 38 PSi on 750x16 XZLs. I did this on purpose to get a feel of the difference when I dropped down to ~24 PSi. I did not get bogged once and even did some heavy braking in the softer stuff to dig in. This all on the eastern side. I went from Inskip and spent a week camping and moving along to the northern most NP camp ground. Never did the tip as no recvery gear and traveling solo.

Id say that pretty easy work by sand standards

[scarry]

The first time I went to Fraser Isl in my 110, i drove for 2 days at 38 PSi on 750x16 XZLs. I did this on purpose to get a feel of the difference when I dropped down to ~24 PSi. I did not get bogged once and even did some heavy braking in the softer stuff to dig in. This all on the eastern side. I went from Inskip and spent a week camping and moving along to the northern most NP camp ground. Never did the tip as no recvery gear and traveling solo.

Id say that pretty easy work by sand standards

That pic should be there now.

Softness of dryish sand depends on the moisture content.
I have seen very very soft sand here in Qld,usually if it hasn't rained for a couple of months and it has been hot.
In winter the sand moisture content seems to stay higher for longer after rain.

But then there is also the quicksand down near the water,that is very very soft,and can easily catch a driver out.
That is sand that is saturated with water.

Back to the vid,that sand didn't look very soft,but it could be just the way it looks in the vid.