AIR BAG RECALL

[1950landy]

I was looking at the ACCC air bag recall list on news this morning , there are # Honda motorcycles on the list:lol2: When did they start fitting air bags to motorcycles . I know I do not know much about motorcycles but what is different about these motorcycles that they need air bags?:question: May be I should read all the article & there is another issue with motorcycles [bighmmm]

[donh54]

The Honda Goldwing is essentially a Buick on two wheels! If you hit something you've got an awful lot of dashboard and fairing to carve yourself up on.

[Tins]

The Honda Goldwing is essentially a Buick on two wheels! If you hit something you've got an awful lot of dashboard and fairing to carve yourself up on.

I was going to say Cadillac, but yes.

[JamesH]

I'm hearing a story that Land Rover is being added to the recall list

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Good luck with that class action against Takata[wink11]

[Tins]

Good luck with that class action against Takata[wink11]

Chapter 11 Bankruptcy filed last year. However, new owners Key Safety Systems may find themselves having to stump up. Honda is in the frame as well, as authorities believe they have known about the airbag issue for years but failed to act.

[Tins]

I'm hearing a story that Land Rover is being added to the recall list

LR is definitely on the North American list. Takata had 20% of the market, so it's likely that some LRs would have their product.

[101RRS]

I checked the ACCC and Product Safety lists and LR is not on it - yet on the lists shown on TV LR was there - I wish they would get their act together.

[DiscoMick]

Millions of Australians ordered to have deadly airbags removed from their cars
Airbag recall: Millions of Australians ordered to have deadly defects removed - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-28/takata-airbag-compulsory-recall-to-affect-2.3-million-vehicles/9491766)

Land Rover is being added to the list, but the details of which LR vehicles are affected aren't on the list yet.

This story contains a link to the current list. I think our Mazda 2 is affected.
If your vehicle has an ALPHA version of the Takata airbag and the airbag goes off there is a 50% chance it will fire shards which could kill you. Twenty people have already died. The advice for people with an ALPHA version of the airbag is to park and don't drive it until the manufacturer replaces the airbag, so that's serious.

[loanrangie]

This is old news except now they are going to force manufacturers to action instead of dragging their feet, and Honda have been replacing the air bags in bikes for about 12 months - i do the customs clearance for Honda spare parts at work.

[Ferret]

Reading of stories now of people who have had their defective Takata airbags replaced under a previous voluntary recall are now caught up again in the compulsory recall because the defective air bags were just replaced with the same defective Takata air bags.:eek2:

Looks like deliberate acts to mislead / dodge responsibility under the previous voluntary recall by some.


ACCC chairman Rod Sims said people who had already replaced airbags under the voluntary recall last year would need to check again to see if their car was listed on the new recall.

This is because in some cases, faulty Takata airbags were replaced with like-for-like, which only delayed the risk of the airbag exploding.


Airbag recall: Millions of Australians ordered to have deadly defects removed from cars (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-28/airbag-recall-to-affect-2.7-million-australian-vehicles/9491766)

[Bytemrk]

Land Rover is being added to the list, but the details of which LR vehicles are affected aren't on the list yet.



Looks like that have until April 2018 to join the fun [bighmmm]

Compulsory Takata airbag recalls affecting Australian drivers | Product Safety Australia (https://www.productsafety.gov.au/news/compulsory-takata-airbag-recalls-affecting-australian-drivers)

[Charliektm400exc]

Reading of stories now of people who have had their defective Takata airbags replaced under a previous voluntary recall are now caught up again in the compulsory recall because the defective air bags were just replaced with the same defective Takata air bags.:eek2:

Looks like deliberate acts to mislead / dodge responsibility under the previous voluntary recall by some.



Airbag recall: Millions of Australians ordered to have deadly defects removed from cars (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-28/airbag-recall-to-affect-2.7-million-australian-vehicles/9491766)

they aren’t trying to dodge the problem. But what’s wrong is there aren’t enough new air bags available around the world to replace all the ones needed. The airbags only become faulty after some time passes. So some manufacturers are putting the old type, but new, airbags in to give them a bit of time to get hold of proper replacements

[worane]

I was just wondering if any of our Land Rovers are effected by the recall of airbag problems?

[V8Ian]

The Honda Goldwing is essentially a Buick on two wheels! If you hit something you've got an awful lot of dashboard and fairing to carve yourself up on.


I was going to say Cadillac, but yes.
Rolls Royce or Maybach perhaps, but neither could out perform or offer the thrill factor of a 'Wing.
Airbags have been optional, on Goldwing motorcycles, for about ten years.
Recall for GL1800 Goldwing airbags (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/motor-cycling/258032-recall-gl1800-goldwing-airbags.html)

We got a recall fr the Paj. When we responded to book it in, we were told to ignore it as it would be recalled again for the other side. It was returned in response to the second notice, when both 'bags were replaced. The parting comment from the dealer was that it would be recalled again, as the replacements were also defective.
This was last year, when the car was under five years old.

[Tins]

Rolls Royce or Maybach perhaps

Not a chance. Nissan Cedric, maybe.

[carjunkieanon]

Our Odyssey fits the year timeframe to be recalled but not the VIN.

That being so, the 'airbag' warning light is permanently illuminated anyway [bigsad]

[V8Ian]

Not a chance. Nissan Cedric, maybe.
Haha, even a Cyclops is better than a brace of Nissan's finest from the mid sixties. [bigrolf]

[laney]

No Land rovers are on the list that I have read

[scarry]

I am wondering who is going to quickly make millions of airbags suitable for all these vehicles?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I think the odds are one in three for certain years,,
so, yes there are LR's involved,, but much later than ours[biggrin]

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I would think the company that bought Takata for peanuts,,
all the machinery is there already, just need a change in a supplier or two---

[V8Ian]

A bit of prudently placed MacGyver tape should suffice. :thumbsup:

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/02/752.jpg

[DiscoMick]

Land Rovers are being added to the list. LR has to supply a list of the VINs by early April, according to the story I linked to earlier.
Not a problem for Defender owners of course, since we are airbag-free.

Good news is I rang the dealer today and our Mazda2 is not on the list of affected VIN numbers. Apparently letters are being sent to the owners of affected vehicles.

[DiscoMick]

'I was devastated': Airbag victim's father warns Australians to check recall list
Takata: Victim's father warns Australians to check for faulty airbags - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-01/victim-father-warns-australians-to-check-for-faulty-airbags/9495070)

[PerthDisco]

I saw in the news JLR now caught up in the recall.

Does it just affect steering wheel airbags?

[DiscoJeffster]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/03/5.jpg
I’m not sure where your information comes from but I don’t see any JLR on the list

[Uberdisco]

Ditto above ... no JLR

[veebs]

The headlines have been referring to VW too - yet no sign of it in the detail. For once, VW appears to have avoided a scandal.

[BobD]

I think you have posted the earlier voluntary recall notice.

As of yesterday Feb 28, Toyota, Mercedes, VW, Skoda, Land Rover, Holden, Ford and many others have been given a mandatory recall order by the Federal Government.

Specific models have not yet been advised.

[pastor098]

Looks like JLR are being added to the list, according to this article:

Takata airbag recall, Australia: What to do if your car is on the list (http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/motoring-news/takata-airbag-recall-what-to-do-if-your-car-is-on-the-list/news-story/1e063b0af9f1af696789e35911118b29)

[PhilipA]

My 2006 Honda Jazz airbags were changed a couple of years ago.
The models are listed under the car maker title if you click on it.

It looks like 2012 -2013 models for Honda anyway.
Regards Philip A

[IvanR]

On the Govt website they now say it will be April 2018 before it is fully update with all the extra recalls.

Ivan

[DiscoMick]

JLR and others are being added to the list.
In some cases airbags have already been replaced once, but with the same faulty airbags, so it has to be redone with corrected airbags.

We seem to have multiple threads on this airbag issue. These questions have already been answered elsewhere. Maybe they should be merged?

[101RRS]

Maybe if the mods put all the airbag posts in the one thread where the LR aspect has already been discussed it might be clearer.

No LR is not on the current list but is being added to it - the list will not be finalised until April.

[Fatso]

My 2007 RRS is in the clear , not on the recall list as per LR Australia . [bigsmile][bigsmile][bigsmile]

[Fatso]

Sent an email to JLR along with my Vin this morning and got a reply not long after , My 2007 RRS is not on their recall list Phew . [bigsmile]

[loanrangie]

My 2007 RRS is in the clear , not on the recall list as per LR Australia . [bigsmile][bigsmile][bigsmile]

Where did you go to get the info ?

[Fatso]

Where did you go to get the info ?


As per LR Australia , sent them an e-mail

[disco gazza]

I think I looked up my airbag on rave and it said "bosch" [emoji4]

[350RRC]

I looked up my 74 RRC and it said Tony. Optional accessory it seems.

Full of hot air, obese redneck that is only installed when he needs a lift from one 'venue' to another coz he's too lazy to walk.

Has been known to go off, inflicting self injury.

DL

[Bytemrk]

Takata airbag recall: Holden and Tesla yet to give details (http://www.news.com.au/technology/innovation/motoring/motoring-news/takata-airbags-european-models-added-to-growing-recall-list/news-story/b1183f816ed77b155278cb460722e8bb)

They quote Jag Land Rover with 17,500 vehicles:

Jaguar-Land Rover: 17,500
Jaguar XE 2007-2017
Jaguar XF 2016 and 2017
Jaguar F-PACE 2017
Range Rover (Vogue) 2007-2012​
Discovery Sport 2015-2017

But I have not found an official site listing them.

[Tombie]

Not in a D3/D4 your not..
But a FFRR up to 2012 gets new bags..

[whyatts]

2007 - 2012 Range Rover (passenger) & 2015 - 2017 Discovery Sport (driver)
are the vehicles which will be recalled in stages over the next 2 years starting with the oldest vehicles first.

[p38arover]

Our 2009 Forester had the passenger's airbag replaced late last year. We didn't get a letter asking us to come in - I went onto the Suby website and booked it in for the following week. It was done on the day I requested.

[Celtoid]

The Honda Goldwing is essentially a Buick on two wheels! If you hit something you've got an awful lot of dashboard and fairing to carve yourself up on.

They apparently have a reverse gear!

[Celtoid]

they aren’t trying to dodge the problem. But what’s wrong is there aren’t enough new air bags available around the world to replace all the ones needed. The airbags only become faulty after some time passes. So some manufacturers are putting the old type, but new, airbags in to give them a bit of time to get hold of proper replacements

That was my take on it too. The recently manufactured, old design bags are safe for a few years. So, better being able to drive than not at all if you were left waiting for the production run of new 'completely safe' bags to come into the market.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

This is all really old news,,,
[bighmmm]

[DiscoMick]

I think the airbag has to dry out before the problems occur.

[DiscoMick]

330,000 Holdens to be recalled over faulty airbags
Holden confirms hundreds of thousands of cars affected by Takata airbag recall - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-02/takata-airbags-holden-names-models-affected-by-recall/9503086)

[donh54]

2007 - 2012 Range Rover (passenger) & 2015 - 2017 Discovery Sport (driver)
are the vehicles which will be recalled in stages over the next 2 years starting with the oldest vehicles first.

Confirmed on LRA site Takata Recall (https://www.landrover.com.au/experiences/news/recall.html)

Mine are all too old to be affected [thumbsupbig]

[DiscoMick]

Confirmed on LRA site Takata Recall (https://www.landrover.com.au/experiences/news/recall.html)

Mine are all too old to be affected [thumbsupbig]I note none of the most dangerous Alpha versions of the airbag are in LRs.

Of course this saga is just one more advantage of Defenders - no airbags to impale you.
[emoji16]

[Charliektm400exc]

They apparently have a reverse gear!

Yep. And stereo, cruise control, heated seats, central locking.

[smilebigeye]

[V8Ian]

Yep. And stereo, cruise control, heated seats, central locking.

[smilebigeye]
And heater.
I had a fellow convinced that one of my earlier 'Wings had air con. [bigrolf]

[INter674]

Have you seen a lot of Honda CRVs on tilt trays recently?

No they have not been mating with LRs😍

The buy back is in full swing now and due to Honda being unable to retrofit new air bags to a number of older cars. Other brands are also similarly affected and are looking to buy back unrepairable cars.

Mates low k CRV was picked up the other day. He was offered a low ball 3k for it but haggled and settled for a few hundred more.

Towie said it will be crushed in days..as he is as it has been in the family since new and has never ever broken down despite being driven hard by all the kids!

What to buy now that will be as good...even Honda's standards have fallen in recent years?

[DiscoMick]

It's interesting that new airbags can't be fitted to some older cars. Seems a poor design. If the airbag goes off does the car have to be scrapped?

[shanegtr]

It's interesting that new airbags can't be fitted to some older cars. Seems a poor design. If the airbag goes off does the car have to be scrapped?
Chances are fairly high in any car that if the airbags are set off its going to be a write off either way

[4bee]

Christ! If it ain't Climate Change, it will be The Virus or ****ty air bags that will get us. Oh yes the Stock market ain't looking too good either so that could still kick us in the rectum..

Anything I have missed?


Do you ever get the feeling it is not a great time to be alive.[biggrin]

[Tombie]

It’s a great time to be alive.

[Graeme]

deleted - wrong thread.

[jonesfam]

It’s a great time to be alive.

All we have to do is stay that way? [bighmmm][bighmmm]

[Tombie]

All we have to do is stay that way? [bighmmm][bighmmm]

I have a 100% success rate so far [emoji6]

[DiscoMick]

Every day is a bonus.