D5 tows 110 Tonne Road Train

[shamirj]

Land Rover Discovery Tows 110-Tonne Road Train Across Australian Outback - The Deadline Network (http://autodeadline.com.au/Content/Land-Rover/Discovery-releases/Article/Land-Rover-Discovery-Tows-110-Tonne-Road-Train-Across-Australian-Outback-/1044/1477/25556)

Land Rover Discovery Tows 110 Tonne Road Train - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DsK0SH0h9s)

watch the video, is impressive.

[p38arover]

See also https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l462-discovery-5-a/245964-engine-towing-2.html?245964=#post2721297

[67hardtop]

My s3 could do that easily

[Tombie]

One of those stupid stunts all manufacturers seem to like to do...

[Bohica]

Plenty of other Land Rovers towing HGVs in the UK through the snow at present. Not a stunt.

[Tombie]

It’s still a stunt...

Those HGVs are under their own power also.

Anything can be moved once you overcome the initial...

What’s happening to the chassis/driveline etc if asked to do it “full on” is the question that should be asked...

Wasn’t it VW that towed an Aircraft?

[cripesamighty]

John Cadogan debunked these stunts last year on his YouTube channel, using the aircraft being towed as an example. Those PR stunts just look impressive to impressionable punters.

[donh54]

Well, the D5 Td6 has 254 hp. We used to pull loads like that (not legally, mind you :angel: ) with Macks, (Maxidyne @237hp, C motor @ 250, early 711 were around 210hp no turbo). Mind you, they had the torque to maintain a reasonable road speed, and get it up and over hills, too! I think the early Government Roadtrains had Rolls Royce and Gardner engines between 200 - 250 hp.

I'm just wondering which poor bastard is going to get a great deal on that particular "Demo model" :eek2:

[Vern]

John Cadogan debunked these stunts last year on his YouTube channel, using the aircraft being towed as an example. Those PR stunts just look impressive to impressionable punters.Whats to debunk? They either did it or they didn't.

[cripesamighty]

John Cadogan debunked the "PR crap" surrounding it and why it was all style over substance - effort-wise. He went into the physics of why it was relatively easier to do than people assumed, and basically why it was a 'spectacle' rather than a 'difficult feat'. If you are on a level, grippy surface (hanger and runway in that case), and you are in a 4WD using a solid towbar, you can move a wheeled object that weighs quite a hell of a lot more than you do (coefficient of rolling resistance is around 1%). You can't do the same if it was deadweight, just sitting on the ground and you literally had to drag it. That is what fools people - they equate the rolling load to be the same as a grounded 'drag along the floor' load. As John rightly pointed out in his video - load up a wheel barrow with bricks and push it up the street. Now take the wheels off and try again....

Dave (Blknight.Aus) on the odd occasion shifted a 13 ton Bushmaster PMV with both his D1 and also his 110 and that was well within the capability of those vehicles. Other people have set records pulling heavy wheeled objects using their teeth, or hair, or testicles - but I wouldn't recommend it! Ha Ha

Go to the link below and find "Porsche tows Airbus A380 - but is it really that impressive?" from around 9 months ago. I'd put a direct link but he often says bad words!

AutoExpertTV
- YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/user/AutoExpertTV/videos)

[Vern]

I thought by 'debunked', that he was going to say it was rubbish and couldn't be done.
Yes it is obviously a pr stunt

[cripesamighty]

Nah, he just debunked the PR spin. It was probably the wrong word to use in that context without explaining it a bit better!

[Rubicon]

May be a PR stunt, but shows it's possible. I know someone who towed his Winnebago off the M1 Motorway in the UK using his Yamaha TDM, steering and braking the Winnebago must have been interesting though.

[whitey56]

Well, the D5 Td6 has 254 hp. We used to pull loads like that (not legally, mind you :angel: ) with Macks, (Maxidyne @237hp, C motor @ 250, early 711 were around 210hp no turbo). Mind you, they had the torque to maintain a reasonable road speed, and get it up and over hills, too! I think the early Government Roadtrains had Rolls Royce and Gardner engines between 200 - 250 hp.

I'm just wondering which poor bastard is going to get a great deal on that particular "Demo model" :eek2:

That brings back memories I've sat behind all those Mack motors even the P motor, I had a soft spot for the C motor ours pulled above it's weight.

[philthy]

Publicity stunt for the brand in question. Clever advertising. Plus the more people that whinge about it,the better!! "Bad publicity is good publicity". Whether right or wrong, it's all good for business. [bigsmile]

[bbyer]

As a foreigner, I saw "The Rock" in the background, was impressed with the great pavement - sure level and straight - well maybe a bit downhill, (any uphill grade was unlikely), but did think that the get up and go was nice, but wondered about the stopping. The Kenworth was impressive - maybe they could use the video as well.

Here in the land of ice-cubes, four wheel drive is great for getting going, but does not do much for stopping; maybe it is different in Oz.

A good tourist video; the guys seemed to be having fun, and not a croc in site.


[bigsmile]

[harro]

As a foreigner, I saw "The Rock" in the background, was impressed with the great pavement - sure level and straight - well maybe a bit downhill, (any uphill grade was unlikely), but did think that the get up and go was nice, but wondered about the stopping. The Kenworth was impressive - maybe they could use the video as well.

Here in the land of ice-cubes, four wheel drive is great for getting going, but does not do much for stopping; maybe it is different in Oz.

A good tourist video; the guys seemed to be having fun, and not a croc in site.


[bigsmile]



I think 'The Rock' in the background is Mount Connor.

Paul.

[bbyer]

I think 'The Rock' in the background is Mount Connor.

Paul.I would think you are correct, however my image of Oz has it that anything that is big in the Outback must be "The Rock".[biggrin]

I do however a few years back recall a group of you trying to convince me something about a "big crawly" - (road side warnings of it I recall, and pictures to prove it) - just cannot remember now what it was, but it was somehow tied to a discussion of Marmite, apparently an Australian staple - consumed by all, and spread on everything but the roads.

[donh54]

That brings back memories I've sat behind all those Mack motors even the P motor, I had a soft spot for the C motor ours pulled above it's weight.

Yep - done my time looking at a dog's bum! [bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]

[Tins]

braking the Winnebago must have been interesting though.

Not half as interesting as braking would have been in that Disco.[bigwhistle]

[Tins]

Wasn’t it VW that towed an Aircraft?

Yep, but the Touareg used in that vid was heavily modified. So It was even more of a stunt.

Still, it has been going on for a while.....


https://youtu.be/9lb4sZJz2ww