Perentie paint

[thomson]

I looked the Protec site and found a store at Hornsby N S W ,closed down , rang the number on the sign , we are at Silverwater now , what do you want , paint I replie , Ok she says .I drive to Silverwater , we do not sell paint anymore ,we are paint protection .I come home ring the 1800 number for protec . Protec does not exists anymore says the man , we should pull that web page . There is a mob called Paint Power House that sell a paint called Protec he says . So I ask the Question who lately ( in the last month)has bought the paint for their Perentie in the Sydney ,and do they keep the formula or did you have it colour matched ?. [bawl]

[67hardtop]

Protec paint is now made in Melbourne. It used to be made here in Adelaide. They have the olive drab, tan and black camoflage paint in stock as 4 litre cans or spray cans.

Cheers Rod

[thomson]

Protec paint is now made in Melbourne. It used to be made here in Adelaide. They have the olive drab, tan and black camoflage paint in stock as 4 litre cans or spray cans.

Cheers Rod
How do I contact the supplier to arrange shipment etc

[67hardtop]

How do I contact the supplier to arrange shipment etcIm not sure. I was told this by the protec paint stockist here in Adelaide on Tuesday. Thats all i know. Sorry.

Cheers Rod

[thomson]

Im not sure. I was told this by the protec paint stockist here in Adelaide on Tuesday. Thats all i know. Sorry.

Cheers Rod
So the Merry go round continues , does anybody have any real info??....

[67hardtop]

There you go. Ring the number. Best i can do for you unless u want me to paint it for you too???

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[thomson]

[could you give me the phone number ,I cannot read the can, thanks QUOTE=67hardtop;2784687]There you go. Ring the number. Best i can do for you unless u want me to paint it for you too???

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[Gardi01]

I looked the Protec site and found a store at Hornsby N S W ,closed down , rang the number on the sign , we are at Silverwater now , what do you want , paint I replie , Ok she says .I drive to Silverwater , we do not sell paint anymore ,we are paint protection .I come home ring the 1800 number for protec . Protec does not exists anymore says the man , we should pull that web page . There is a mob called Paint Power House that sell a paint called Protec he says . So I ask the Question who lately ( in the last month)has bought the paint for their Perentie in the Sydney ,and do they keep the formula or did you have it colour matched ?. [bawl]

Protec Pty Ltd
ABN 41 007 857 392
35 Collinsvale St, Rocklea, Qld, 4106.

No telephone number supplied on invoice.

Invoice date 31-Jan-18.

They exist in Brisbane, sell 4 litre cans, spraycans and will colour match. Company should exist in Sydney I would think.

[Mick_Marsh]

Where to Buy | Protec - The Clear Choice (http://www.protec.com.au/stockists)

[67hardtop]

08 8447 6311

[thomson]

I rang the number they are part of the Paint Power House chain and do not have the formula for the camo colours and need to colour match of a sample .I did notice that your cans had a 2013 date on them.

[gromit]

The camo green should be available 'over the counter' as it's mixed at the factory (you've just got to find a Protec stockist).
The light Tan & Black have to be ordered in.

The paint shop I use in Bayswater carry the 4 litre tins of Camo Green and also rattle cans.

Did you check the link Mick_Marsh posted ?


Colin

[thomson]

[Well I rang the protec hot line ( in VIC ) on 1300659666 and the guy was most helpful , he said they do the camo colours in enamel and 2 pack he looked up his computer and found my nearest stockist is at Smeaton Grange N S W and they have 4 litre cans on the shelf at $60 plus gst .He said they do not sell smaller amounts forgot to ask about the spray cans

[67hardtop]

Went and bought 2 spray cans of light tan paint today. They now have the formula and make them up on the spot. Not cheap tho. $22 ea

[BreakingBad]

Went and bought 2 spray cans of light tan paint today. They now have the formula and make them up on the spot. Not cheap tho. $22 ea

Somerton (VIC) also make the spray cans on demand. They also make different shades if required. Best of all these cans don't seem to clog or splutter like the factory cans.

[gromit]

Somerton (VIC) also make the spray cans on demand. They also make different shades if required. Best of all these cans don't seem to clog or splutter like the factory cans.

What type of paint ? Alkyd Enamel the same as the pre mixed camo green ?

I've been using the Protec rattle can camo green without any issues but have heard several people comment on them spluttering/clogging.
The paint shop I use can get the black & tan in 4 litres but it has to be ordered from Protec. I don't need 4 litres of each so maybe when I need some I'll get 4 litres of each and sell 1/2. Rattle can green was $18 from memory and under $60 for 4 litres.


Colin

[BreakingBad]

What type of paint ? Alkyd Enamel the same as the pre mixed camo green ?

I've been using the Protec rattle can camo green without any issues but have heard several people comment on them spluttering/clogging.
The paint shop I use can get the black & tan in 4 litres but it has to be ordered from Protec. I don't need 4 litres of each so maybe when I need some I'll get 4 litres of each and sell 1/2. Rattle can green was $18 from memory and under $60 for 4 litres.


Colin


The paint appears to be the same as the the pre mixed, although the label lists many more ingredients (maybe just more detail than previous, maybe a new formula).

I've read some reasons for the pre-mixed cans spluttering/clogging;


old out of date paint - although i have experience issues with paint that was well within use by (almost two years)
shaking too much - apparently they should be rocked in a see-saw motion for quite some time rather than shaken up and down

[101 Ron]

Its just a matter of finding a Protec agent with on site mixing gear for the type of paint you want.......ie protec 304 series enamel, 363 series modified enamel or acrylic
Most spray shops and panel beaters use acrylic paints as thats whats most cars use.
Here in Nowra I go to a Auto wreakers who is a Protec agent with enamel mixing gear.
In the computor system is a formula for what ever colour paint I am looking for with other information, like brand, make and model of the equipment I want to paint.
I am in the forklift game.....ie ....42 5FG25 series Toyota forklift orange.....equals a paint code formula xyz ect.
It is then made up on the spot while I wait in what ever amount I need .....ie aerosol can........2 litre ......or 4 litre and I can get it mixed in 304, 363 or acrylic if the information is in the computor.
In the Protec information system.......camoflage green ...Australian army is easy and comes up in the mixing formation records straight away.
I have been buying Aust Army camo green in 4 and 2 lites cans four times a year for the last 6 years, mixed while I wait for my Stalwart amphibious truck project with no problem, matches every time straight from the Protec computor search.
If you have the codes for the Protec mix would greatly help some mixing the colour if they dont have access to the computor system.
I get the same done for Deep bronze green.......you must know if you are chasing Australian army deep bronze green or British army deep bronze green as one has more blue tint in it than the other.
Find a Protec dealer who supplies enamel paint for machinery dealers ect and not cars.
Ron

[101 Ron]

The Australian army tan is also in the system.......I think it comes up in in two different shades, a older colour and the current one the Australian army is using...........I cannot remeber exactly the correct name for the Aust tan colour.....Pilbar brown???????.
How the system works is repeat purchasers of Protec paint need the formula recorded in the system so they can buy more of the exact same colour.
If I want to paint my Landrover in Rons Purple shade which originally gets mixed by eye to the colour I want
I get the colour tints recorded into the Protec system as Rons purple Landrover shade and any one in the system can search for it and paint their Landrover in Rons purple shade and paint their Landrover the same colour by using the information in the system by any other Protec dealer with the mixing gear.

[101 Ron]

You need to find someone with Protec on site enamel mixing gear.
304 enamel is a basic enamel .....general purpose for painting machinery and industrial frame work ect.......it is a cheaper option and will fade quickly in the weather.

363 modified enamel is more expensive, but a much better paint and more suited to automotive use, longer lasting with less fade.

Camoflage green is a low sheen paint, because thats what the army wanted so the vehicles are harder to see.
Flat or low sheen paints generally are not water proof due to the low sheen nature and therefore hold oil stains and water and therefore should be applied over a normal gloss paint to increase rust protection.
The army never did the gloss coat.
I find the solution is to add enamel harder to the mix just before spraying the paint for a few reasons............the paint drys quickly, the paint is much harder, the paint becomes fully sealed or water proof, the finish is can be gloss or anywhere between gloss and flat depending on the amount of harder used.
Camo green if used straight out of the tin needs a anti rust under coat and then a gloss undercoat to make it last in its low sheen form.

[rar110]

I had the local paint shop make up some Abrams tan or light tan for a desert cam look. I had a can that had gone lumpy. So had something to work from. I had the other colours, Cam green and tan.

I was also repainting the entire car so didn’t really matter if a little off.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/254.jpg

[101 Ron]

Below are cans of 363 paint with the information written on them the paint place writes on to help do a fresh can when I need it.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/255.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25VBDY6)DSCN1377 (https://flic.kr/p/25VBDY6) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/256.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25VBDXV)DSCN1378 (https://flic.kr/p/25VBDXV) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr


Below is a alloy side door from the amphibious truck.
First coat is a etching primer because its alloy( not needed for steel)
Second coat is red oxide for rust protection.
Third coat camouflage green with only a small amount of enamel add/ harder.
Fourth light coat with a large amount of harder( water proofs and adds a shine to a mostly flat paint.)
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/257.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjAKHe)Stalwart LHS cargo door (https://flic.kr/p/HjAKHe) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[101 Ron]

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/259.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjAKGT)Stalwart FV623 LHS door (https://flic.kr/p/HjAKGT) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

Below taken on a very overcast day( light rain)........note the gloss coming from the last very light coat.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/260.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/25VBDXp)DSCN1379 (https://flic.kr/p/25VBDXp) by john smith (https://www.flickr.com/photos/141335301@N02/), on Flickr

[ozeraser]

Just FYI,

I went to protec today (23rd Oct 2018) in Adelaide (Gillman) and picked up some original paint;

Here is the costing...

342-1166 4Ltr can Camo Green (modified with whatever they put in it) $62.70 +gst
342-7165 Spray can Camo Black (modified) $13.89 +gst
342-5762 Spray can Light Tan (Needed to be mixed not on shelf) $21.74 +gst

And colour match on the Tan vs my no5 trailer...

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Only the red oxide covered on a single coat, matches well.

The paint shop also said do light coverage of the green wait to flash dry and recoat, otherwise you can get a glossy finish.

[DazzaTD5]

I had the local paint shop make up some Abrams tan or light tan for a desert cam look. I had a can that had gone lumpy. So had something to work from. I had the other colours, Cam green and tan.

I was also repainting the entire car so didn’t really matter if a little off.

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/05/254.jpg

Such a great look, very tempted to paint mine in this camo

[DazzaTD5]

Just some info for owners in W.A

Protec paint stockist
Paint Powerhouse - Welshpool87 Welshpool Road
Welshpool, WA 6106, Australia

*They have most Protec paints in spray cans on the shelf.
*can mix the other dessert tan colours in spray cans.
*Can supply all colours in 4lt tins.
*Can make up other colours in spray cans.

*After calling in there I realised its the same business that used to make up spray can colours for equipment we used (Genie blue, CAT yellow etc etc)
*Yes some protec spray cans can get cloggy if not used up fairly quickly.

[davros]

And here is the product data info...
An extremely helpful paint sales rep “Mark” (one of those types you get to speak to when you scare off the initial salesman by asking about paints ability to avoid reflection in your night-vision goggles and they say, “I’ll just get someone who knows about this stuff... [who cares about it more than me!]” from the Perth Welshpool centre mentioned before in this thread looked up all info for me and also put me in touch with O’Keefe’s paint in Albany WA to get it to me down south. Mark was truly excellent, seeking all the info and actually smsing info direct from his mobile.
The data on the good stuff:

http://www.ppglic.com.au/uploads/tds/342%20Camouflage%20Enamel%20Rev%20Nov%202011.pdf

Now there was some online mention that the paint was restricted due to it being for army only, but Mark confirmed that ‘single pack products are available to the public’. Unsure if there is some army only product? But this paint still has the anti-infrared reflection capability and basic chemical resistance. Seemingly inane things are often restricted these days, sometimes due to security agreements with US so we can share their new toys and they ours.

[craigbushman]

And here is the product data info...
An extremely helpful paint sales rep “Mark” (one of those types you get to speak to when you scare off the initial salesman by asking about paints ability to avoid reflection in your night-vision goggles and they say, “I’ll just get someone who knows about this stuff... [who cares about it more than me!]” from the Perth Welshpool centre mentioned before in this thread looked up all info for me and also put me in touch with O’Keefe’s paint in Albany WA to get it to me down south. Mark was truly excellent, seeking all the info and actually smsing info direct from his mobile.
The data on the good stuff:

http://www.ppglic.com.au/uploads/tds/342%20Camouflage%20Enamel%20Rev%20Nov%202011.pdf

Now there was some online mention that the paint was restricted due to it being for army only, but Mark confirmed that ‘single pack products are available to the public’. Unsure if there is some army only product? But this paint still has the anti-infrared reflection capability and basic chemical resistance. Seemingly inane things are often restricted these days, sometimes due to security agreements with US so we can share their new toys and they ours.

A bit of a necro-post, but I can confirm that protec "camouflage green" and "camouflage brown" spray cans do indeed have IRR protection - i.e. they do not glow under night vision. Tested with Gen 2+, Gen 3 and digital Sionyx Aurora. I don't have any "camouflage black" cans here to test, but no doubt it would be the same.

[p38arover]

Paint is available from KLR Automotive. As well as the spray cans, they occasionally have the 4 litre cans.

Search results (https://klrautomotive.com.au/search-results-page?q=paint)