View Full Version : Help, need a replacement D4
aquanaught
18th March 2018, 07:55 PM
I am gutted. A big tree came down in the wind and destroyed my D4 [emoji24][emoji24] .... and they don’t make em any more...[emoji24][emoji24]
Know of any on the market?
Gary
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plusnq
18th March 2018, 08:35 PM
That’s terrible. Thank goodness no one was in it at the time. Good luck with your search.
DazzaTD5
18th March 2018, 09:31 PM
Geez thats really got to suck especially if you have been having a trouble free run with it (the next one might not be the same).
*Hope the Insurance Co (the scumbags that they are) Personal opinion)) paid up all good.
*Well MAYBE if someone had of been in it, it wouldnt have been in the carport and then wouldnt have got crushed.
*Nice colour too!
*Out of all the trees on the planet and all the Discovery 4 models out there, its that one tree and your Disco, thats one of them "**** happens"
*When I was about 12 ish my Grandpa promised me his pristine Holden HX GTS when I was old enough, that storm season a tree fell smack bang in the centre of it and crushed it too the ground. I too was devastated
Sorry I couldnt offer any useful comments [tonguewink]
scarry
18th March 2018, 09:40 PM
Geez thats a real shame[bigsad]
There was a 2016 D4 at the local stealers a week or so ago,it went in less than 5 days,so they are sort after.
Good luck with your searching.
aquanaught
18th March 2018, 09:46 PM
In the bigger scheme of things, seeing cyclone and bush fire destruction happening around the country I guess it is really a ‘first work’ problem in comparison but it is still smarting right now, particularly that as it has given two years of problem free touring and off-roading. No one was injured and hopefully insurance will do the right thing.
Milton477
18th March 2018, 11:10 PM
My sympathies, a bitter pill to swallow especially with no new replacements.
bblaze
18th March 2018, 11:54 PM
buff out wont it
cheers
blaze
cjc_td5
19th March 2018, 12:04 AM
An angle grinder around the hip line, some gal capping, and retro series off you go!
Seriously, comiserations on what was obviously a cherished vehicle. I hope you find a worthy replacement.
specwarop
19th March 2018, 11:14 AM
Time to get a Prado I reckon, the D5 is ****e in comparison.
l00kin4
19th March 2018, 11:38 AM
Very sad Gary. Glad nobody was injured.
Hurts me looking at those pics. Tree definitely the winner in that one. Ouch!
Good luck on the hunt for another.
David
AGRO
19th March 2018, 01:14 PM
Hi,
Yep a sad event for sure.
Presumably the vehicle is covered by comprehensive insurance.
I would be interested to see what the "new for old" vehicle is if that what is contained in the insurance and that an equivalent vehicle isn't available.
pastor098
19th March 2018, 02:05 PM
Hey mate - not sure exactly what you are after, but there is a HSE up on GraysOnline. Been auctioned a few times, with no bids. Could get it a cheap price? Says there is something wrong with centre display however.. Not sure how much they are to replace..
http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-3422053/2011-land-rover-discovery-4-3-0-sdv6-hse-series-4-turbo-diesel
cripesamighty
19th March 2018, 04:59 PM
" I would be interested to see what the "new for old" vehicle is if that what is contained in the insurance and that an equivalent vehicle isn't available. "
Yep, like for a Defender too....
Stanleysteamer
22nd March 2018, 07:58 AM
" I would be interested to see what the "new for old" vehicle is if that what is contained in the insurance and that an equivalent vehicle isn't available. "
Yep, like for a Defender too....
Hopefully the insurance will give you (nearly) enough to buy another one. If you get the chance to have another one then do try to keep the old one too, even if you have to buy the wreck back off the insurers. It is a solid source of spares which means you could buy one with a problem much cheaper and then take the bits off the wreck, to mend it with. From the photos it does just (!) seem to be bodywork damage, although admittedly there are electronics in the roof.
This nearly happened to us once in Ireland or Eire as it is now known. By a miracle we had gone shopping the previous evening and left the car by the back door and not in its usual parking spot, where the tree landed.
So sorry mate, the very best of luck to you.
JAMLZ
22nd March 2018, 08:00 AM
You just showed me nightmares are real!! First world problems aside - this is the vision that flashes through my head every time we have high winds!! Hope you find a replacement soon!!
bazzle
22nd March 2018, 08:33 AM
Without seeing the damage away from the carport...
Maybe a new roof panel and windscreen is the only major parts needed?
Worth getting a quote from a competent workshop.
drowell
22nd March 2018, 09:10 AM
Geez thats really got to suck especially if you have been having a trouble free run with it (the next one might not be the same).
*Hope the Insurance Co (the scumbags that they are) Personal opinion)) paid up all good.
*Well MAYBE if someone had of been in it, it wouldnt have been in the carport and then wouldnt have got crushed.
*Nice colour too!
*Out of all the trees on the planet and all the Discovery 4 models out there, its that one tree and your Disco, thats one of them "**** happens"
*When I was about 12 ish my Grandpa promised me his pristine Holden HX GTS when I was old enough, that storm season a tree fell smack bang in the centre of it and crushed it too the ground. I too was devastated
Sorry I couldnt offer any useful comments [tonguewink]
You clearly don't buy the right insurance. I have nothing but the highest praise for my insurer given some of my weird claims. My Rooftop tent fell from its shackles on the ceiling and did $4500 damage to my 10 day old motorcylce. No questions asked. We got stuck in the Flinders Ranges and the air suspension went silly. $10k worth of damage to the underbelly. Paid up.
You get what you pay for.
danstee@gmail.com
22nd March 2018, 10:02 AM
http://www.graysonline.com/lot/0001-3422053/2011-land-rover-discovery-4-3-0-sdv6-hse-series-4-turbo-diesel
Tommy Armstrong
22nd March 2018, 10:21 AM
Drowell which insurer do you use? I'm with nrma but never had to make a claim. I'd be gutted too if that happened to my 2013 SE. Winds are averaging 80km around here for the past few days. Sounds like a cyclone outside.
cruiseh
22nd March 2018, 10:27 AM
" I would be interested to see what the "new for old" vehicle is if that what is contained in the insurance and that an equivalent vehicle isn't available. "
Yep, like for a Defender too....
I took out Gap insurance for the duration of my finance (5 years), so what ever market value it, the gaps always covered between market (as per redbook) and the valuation.. was worth the $1300 odd up front cost i think
that also covers the final residual balloon..
DirtDigger
22nd March 2018, 11:07 AM
Have ordered a custom build D5 wont get until late July.
My fuji white My12D4 HSE will be on the market then. I've own since new. Currently @130 k km and fully serviced every 6 mths 10k km. Ebony leather seats gloss piano black door trim. Arb winch bar with competition modified warn 9000lb winch. 20" OE alloys bridgestone potenza & GOE 18" rims with BFG AT's KO2 almost new. Dual yellow top battery red arc bcdc 25A controller. Redarc (top of the range) brake controller. H/Duty front lower control arms done. Light force LED driving lights.
List goes on & on. In EC..no known faults
Reg due mid March 2019
Am looking for interest to buy @ $44k includes all A/M incl. GOE acc's
alittlebitconcerned
22nd March 2018, 12:22 PM
A neighbour of mine has a very nice D4, except the engine died a violent death recently.
If your engine wasn’t damaged maybe you could buy it and do a transplant?
alternatively...
a client of mine is looking to sell his absolutely mint top spec limited edition D4 with 84k on the clock.
Im in the Blue Mountains and so are they.
PM me if you want me to put you in contact with either of them.
Dcinet
22nd March 2018, 01:00 PM
Ping me if interested
Duncan
I am gutted. A big tree came down in the wind and destroyed my D4 [emoji24][emoji24] .... and they don’t make em any more...[emoji24][emoji24]
Know of any on the market?
Gary
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bazzle
22nd March 2018, 01:47 PM
Before hanging ****** on insurance companies you need to wait and see what the OP outcome is.
As I posted earlier when the weight of the carport and tree is lifted off and vehicle removed it 'may' be fixable.
Some insurance companies just write off but Ive been in the 4wd game for many years and seen a few rolled ones repaired to a good standard. Similar structural damage.
OP if you are really att to it get a quote to see if its repairable and if so get the $$ from ins co.
aquanaught
22nd March 2018, 01:51 PM
Many thanks for the great response. There are a number of interesting options which I will consider. I am working through the claim with the insurers at the moment but my ex-pride and join has not been assessed yet. I will give an update in due course but it may take some time.
Cheers
Roland
22nd March 2018, 02:29 PM
Without seeing the damage away from the carport...
Maybe a new roof panel and windscreen is the only major parts needed?
Worth getting a quote from a competent workshop.
Couldn't agree more.
A competent panel shop should be able to replace the roof panel and windscreen.
The important key to a repair may well be if the front "A" pillar has been creased and would be near impossible to repair/replace back to original strength.
I hope the insurance company organise a good quote for you and discuss all options with you.
Cheers
Roland
Arapiles
22nd March 2018, 08:03 PM
Actually there was a 6 year old D4 on Carsales recently that had just 600 odd kms .... they'd driven it home and never moved it again. But you would've had to change all the fluids.
DirtDigger
22nd March 2018, 08:16 PM
Couldn't agree more.
A competent panel shop should be able to replace the roof panel and windscreen.
The important key to a repair may well be if the front "A" pillar has been creased and would be near impossible to repair/replace back to original strength.
I hope the insurance company organise a good quote for you and discuss all options with you.
Cheers
Roland
The A pillar is high tensile steel. ARB Northern (Melb) had serious trouble drilling into it on my MY12 HSE to mount Safari snorkel. They had to use a diamond tip drill finally after destroying every HSS (even cobalt stuff) drill bits to no avail. Toughest they had ever encountered on any prior 4x4 to install a snorkel & werent ever going to attempt again. So i doubt it is repairable if it was damaged.
LRD414
22nd March 2018, 08:45 PM
Before hanging ****** on insurance companies
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Cheers,
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shanegtr
22nd March 2018, 08:46 PM
Looks to me like the A pillar has deformed, look at where the top of the drivers door is in relation to the roof/pillar structure.
Anyway its a dam shame to have your car destroyed like that, but on the bright side at least it wasnt destroyed in a fashion that would have had you inside it
aquanaught
23rd March 2018, 12:53 PM
From a structural point of view, with the benefit of close inspection both A-pillars are deformed inward due to the catenary effect across the roof line, but the right side one is significantly deformed such that you can put your hand through between the door and pillar. The pillar deformation is such that it likely extend down below the window line and into the bodywork and firewall.
The driver side B-pillar is also deformed inward from the roof deformation.
The driver side C-pillar is buckled near the top from the direct impact of the carport joist such that the rear door is difficult to open.
There is further creasing damage to the passenger side rear pillar consequent on further impact from a different roof joist that flicked down having taken a direct hit from the tree.
The roof panel is perforated at around where the tree branch impacted, and the head rest was impacted by the roof thereby preventing even further deformation of the roof and pillar buckling.
A portion of the weight of the carport and tree was left resting on the car after the impact giving the car quite a lean, which was very evident in the suspension clearance. It is thus very possible that the suspension bottomed out at the peak of the impact so there may well be further damage to the chassis / suspension components as a result, but this would be difficult to tell based on a cursory inspection and may only show up as a fatigue or reliability issue way down the track.
While a great car, the load it sustained was definitely not a design load that would have been considered, other than to minimise damage to the occupants in the case of a rollover, so in my view all bets are off from a structural longevity perspective.
Otherwise it is all good!!!!
I am still in mourning, and get reminded every evening when I return home as the car is still parked in the drive looking very forlorn with its sloping down roof line.
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discomatt69
23rd March 2018, 01:34 PM
Sorry to see your misfortune, it used to be the case in Vic that you could repair write offs and they still have 2 classes of write off. Repairable and none repairable. Sorry to say but yours will definitely fall into the non repairable class due to the structural damage .
If it was mine and had been a good car with no issues and well serviced I would buy it back from the auctions, take it home and dismantle it, sell all panels, lights and bars etc. sell the interior ( could take some time ) and keep all the running gear, brakes, suspension and everything else that wears out with use.
Buy another good well serviced one and with the experience gained from dismantling one completely you have parts and know how to get you through the next 10 years of motoring without buying anything other than oil and filters.
Easy for me to say though because I was a panel beater for 15 years, not so easy for some.
Good luck with finding a replacement
2shots
27th March 2018, 08:17 AM
Saw a very good condition white 2013 D4 in Yackandandah Vic yesterday. Don’t have any details, but it was parked in a driveway behind the local IGA. Call them & get someone to pop around a get you a phone number. Very friendly place. Just had 3 great days of their annual folk festival.
88Perentie
27th March 2018, 09:38 AM
I have a D3 V8 HSE that I am parting with if you are interested. Gary
aquanaught
31st March 2018, 09:02 AM
Many thanks for your support, kind offers of assistance and ideas.
The vehicle assessor has confirmed my beloved Disco to be a statutory write-off so suspect it will be up for auction at Pickles in Melbourne soon.
Other than the ‘tree’ incident the D4 has been very solid and reliable and had been an awesome drive.
Still waiting to hear re insurance settlement so can’t move forward right at the moment but will follow up on options of interest as things unfold.
Cheers
Gary
Owen
4th April 2018, 05:17 PM
Would make a great Convertible shooting rig !!!!
drowell
5th April 2018, 09:41 AM
Drowell which insurer do you use? I'm with nrma but never had to make a claim. I'd be gutted too if that happened to my 2013 SE. Winds are averaging 80km around here for the past few days. Sounds like a cyclone outside.
I am with NRMA. I have all of my policies with them and get the 25% discount. It costs me $2K but the claim was 10K.
aquanaught
3rd September 2018, 01:18 PM
If anyone is interested for parts or for a Discovery Ute, the D4 is up for auction at Pickles tomorrow 4th September.
scarry
3rd September 2018, 03:55 PM
Have you replaced it,or what are you going to replace it with?
RANDLOVER
3rd September 2018, 09:41 PM
............A portion of the weight of the carport and tree was left resting on the car after the impact giving the car quite a lean, which was very evident in the suspension clearance. It is thus very possible that the suspension bottomed out at the peak of the impact so there may well be further damage to the chassis / suspension components as a result, but this would be difficult to tell based on a cursory inspection and may only show up as a fatigue or reliability issue way down the track...............................
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Sorry to hear that, as I was about to suggest finding another body for it, if you were happy with the mechanicals, engine, running gear, etc.
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