Would you?

[Fausto79]

Death traps: Push to phase out cars made before 2002 (http://www.watoday.com.au/business/the-economy/death-traps-push-to-phase-out-cars-made-before-2002-20180313-p4z458.html)

Saw this just now and got me wondering? Would you trade your disco in? Maybe d1 would be classified as a classic car which would make it exempt.

I’d like to see them make me give up my disco.

[BathurstTom]

Death traps: Push to phase out cars made before 2002 (http://www.watoday.com.au/business/the-economy/death-traps-push-to-phase-out-cars-made-before-2002-20180313-p4z458.html)

Saw this just now and got me wondering? Would you trade your disco in? Maybe d1 would be classified as a classic car which would make it exempt.

I’d like to see them make me give up my disco.

Yes, I just read that and had the same thought. Great minds and all that...

Tom.

[bee utey]

Age of a vehicle has less to do with crash injuries than the way its driven. Drive like an idiot and a 2012 Yaris will kill you just the same as a 1994 Disco. This is just the regular push by dealers to sell more used cars.

[DiscoMick]

From reading the story it could be argued the critical factor is the age and behavior of the driver, not the vehicle.
Young drivers, particularly males, have a higher crash rate than older drivers.
Young drivers are more likely to be driving old bombs because it's all they can afford.
A young driver is more likely to crash an old bomb than an older, more experienced driver. Therefore the age of the vehicle is less important than the age of the driver.
So, the answer is better training for young drivers.
Do you agree?

[Fausto79]

Yes, like learning to stick to the left, even though apparently that law only applies at over 90kmh. Also think that a weight and power restriction should apply to inexperienced drivers (similar to motorbikes) and cars with a 5 star ancap as a minimum.

Really gets to me when i see p plates on a wrx or clubsport.

[austastar]

Really gets to me when i see p plates on a wrx or clubsport.

Hi,
It used to astound me driving past a local posh private school at the number of up market cars with P plates.
Guess Daddy has lots of money?

Cheers

[DiscoMick]

Or the kids are borrowing the family car because the parents have work vehicles or go by bus/train.

[Classic88]

I think driving an older vehicle definitely makes one more aware of the risks inherent (both to oneself and others) in being in charge of two tonnes of metal powered by explosions and changes how one actually drives - awareness, following distance, adjusting for conditions etc.

Can't argue against the safety improvements over the last 15 years or so but when people feel safer, they take more risks. Like constantly being on their bloody phones!!!

[donh54]

I learned REAL defensive driving skills in my old 38 Pontiac. Drove it to work every day for three weeks with no brakes! You learn a lot about anticipation of road and traffic conditions!

[Fausto79]

I remember having to drive an OKA bus with no clutch back to depot from 2 hours away. Was ok until you hit the outskirts of city in peak hour. Was fun though. Had to push start it twice using my offsider and the starter motor.

[travelrover]

Hi,
It used to astound me driving past a local posh private school at the number of up market cars with P plates.
Guess Daddy has lots of money?

CheersI recall seeing a black Ferrari Testarossa with L plates driving through Double Bay 20+ years ago.

[DiscoMick]

I saw an Audi Q7 with L plates this morning. The student was driving to school with the mother.

[Ace]

I find it extremely annoying that the government continually looks for ways to make crashes safer as opposed to educating drivers, especially younger ones, to prevent crashes. Its so backwards.

[Fausto79]

There will be a day where we won’t have the option to drive anymore and it will be all driverless cars.

Imagine formula one with driverless cars. The human just sits in it 😂

[rangieman]

I learned REAL defensive driving skills in my old 38 Pontiac. Drove it to work every day for three weeks with no brakes! You learn a lot about anticipation of road and traffic conditions!
I think you will find the majority of us learned in car`s from the 70`s and older and we survived [bigwhistle].

It gets me with these dumb idea`s probably conjured up by some up start uni student with no experience in driving [bighmmm]

The speed has not changed on majority of roads for as long as i can remember yes there is more traffic on the roads which equals slower drives .

Just think about the cars some of us did drive all them years ago
No ABS , No Stability control , No traction control , No Air Bag`s , No Power assisted disc brakes , No power assisted steering and all the other so called safety aid`s we are told we need these days.

[AK83]

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Just think about the cars some of us did drive all them years ago
No ABS , No Stability control , No traction control , No Air Bag`s , No Power assisted disc brakes , No power assisted steering and all the other so called safety aid`s we are told we need these days.

Not to mention with the locally built cars ... no suspension! [bigrolf]
19th century cart springs .. don't count as 'suspension'.