Ball tampering.

[V8Ian]

Pretty disgusting and an embarrassment to us as a nation; but understandable in this day and age of selfish, win at all cost, attitude.

[incisor]

instant dismissal for any and everyone involved with a lifetime ban. IMHO

[Milton477]

instant dismissal for any and everyone involved with a lifetime ban. IMHO

Should have been put on the first plane out of there. The tour is toxic & has now been made infinitely worse.

[grey_ghost]

Disgusting. They can’t beat the SA fair and square so they resort to outright cheating? Pathetic. Smith should have his captaincy taken off him.

[trog]

Disgusting. They can’t beat the SA fair and square so they resort to outright cheating? Pathetic. Smith should have his captaincy taken off him.

The contract for any cheater should be torn up as well those who have been proven to know of the offence and say or do nothing. No better than match fixing.

[biggin]

Unfortunately, here's what will happen.....
NOTHING! Other than a slap on the wrist.
But I hope I'm wrong.

[DiscoMick]

Nothing new about ball tampering - they all do it.
The new angle is the conspiracy of the team leaders telling the junior Cameron Bancroft to do the deed.

[Ferret]

Faf du Plessis was charged with ball tampering when he last played in Aus only several months ago and he is still SA captain.

Doesn't make it right though and Smith aught to know better than that.

Penalty should be consistent with preceding penalties but I have to say I think international cricket is pretty well tarnished by this and all the previous crap. The players need to clean up their act, all of them.

[Chops]

I've just watched this on the news.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to do. All those concerned should be sacked. They're saying that they can't because "all" the leaders knew what was going on,,, well guess what,,, stiff ****ing ****,, **** off.

[discotrap]

I dont usually comment on public forums but!!!!! Smith ,Warner and whoever else in the overpaid leadership group who have an inflated view of their importance should not be given the option of standing down and should be sacked as soon as this test is finished.If and when they are picked in the team in future they should never hold a position of leadership again and their contracts should be adjusted to reflect that.
Just my opinion
Cheers discotrap

[biggin]

Nothing new about ball tampering - they all do it.
The new angle is the conspiracy of the team leaders telling the junior Cameron Bancroft to do the deed.
And now starts the damage control.
They all do it? I hope not.
You think there is no one in cricket with any respect for the game?

[rick130]

Faf du Plessis was charged with ball tampering when he last played in Aus only several months ago and he is still SA captain.

Doesn't make it right though and Smith aught to know better than that.

Penalty should be consistent with preceding penalties but I have to say I think international cricket is pretty well tarnished by this and all the previous crap. The players need to clean up their act, all of them.

The problem is that Australians in sport have a 'holier than thou, we never cheat but everyone else does' attitude which makes the rest of the sporting world gag.

This episode lays that little furphy to rest......

[edit] and I agree with the above, Smith, Warner et al should all be on a plane home, but guess what, that hasn't happened.

No one likes the over the the top sledging and attitude and now this?
The team and Cricket Australia just don't get it.

[V8Ian]

Smith and Warner have been stood down. Good start.

[Pickles2]

Still can't believe this, I mean, jeez,....Steve Smith?....the Aussie Captain, actually planning this, conspiring to actually "cheat".
Must have had brain fade.
Anyway, I can't see how He, or anyone else involved, can be allowed to continue to play cricket for Australia.
Pickles.

[Fifth Columnist]

It's just not cricket.

[rick130]

It's just not cricket.

You win the internet today ! :lol2:

[67hardtop]

It's just not cricket.Hasnt been cricket for years

[Eevo]

if true, i'm pretty disappointed.

[Eevo]

Smith and Warner have been stood down. Good start.

from what i understand, its on y from being captain. they will still play.

[harro]

As a Test cricket tragic I felt sick in the stomach when I first read this.
It will be a long time before I take the Aust Test Team seriously again or Test cricket for that matter.
I have no doubt the WHOLE team knew what was going on and they are all equally responsible including Lehmann.

Sack the lot.
It may hurt me to see them lose but when they are blatantly cheating and representing this country well, that just aint Cricket [bigsad]

A very sad day for the Baggy Green.

[DiscoMick]

Their reputation has been poor for some time, particularly because of their unsportsmanlike sledging of opponents, which has been way over the top. Aussies have defended their behavior as part of the game, but now are seeing them as others have seen them for some time.
'I was ashamed to explain to my 9yo son that we planned to cheat'
Cricket fans are 'heartbroken, want Steve Smith gone' after leading team 'down this dark path' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-25/cricket-fans-want-steve-smith-sacked-after-ball-tampering/9584600)

[Ausfree]

I have never been so ashamed of our cricket team since the underarm bowling incident against New Zealand all those years ago, even though it was legal at the time it was still unsportsmanlike. Smith has to be sacked along with Warner who really needs anger management therapy. Action should be taken against the bowler too as well as Lehman. We are better than this and as one person on this Thread has already mentioned, Australian cricketers have been sledging and scraping the bottom of the barrel for sportmanship for some time now.

God, I'm embarrassed.

[Markf]

I've just watched this on the news.

What an absolutely disgusting thing to do. All those concerned should be sacked. They're saying that they can't because "all" the leaders knew what was going on,,, well guess what,,, stiff ****ing ****,, **** off.

Yes.
In professional sport NOTHING happens without the instruction or approval of the coaching staff, the captain and the so-called leadership group.
They all must go. Now. On the first available flight. The must, now and in the future, not be able to play and just fade into a sad and ugly stain on Australian sport.

[DiscoMick]

I have never been so ashamed of our cricket team since the underarm bowling incident against New Zealand all those years ago, even though it was legal at the time it was still unsportsmanlike. Smith has to be sacked along with Warner who really needs anger management therapy. Action should be taken against the bowler too as well as Lehman. We are better than this and as one person on this Thread has already mentioned, Australian cricketers have been sledging and scraping the bottom of the barrel for sportmanship for some time now.

God, I'm embarrassed.Yes, sledging is just a polite word for bullying, which is unacceptable.

[Mick_Marsh]

I had no idea a test was on, and now I do.
A brilliant marketing ploy.
It certainly has breathed more life into the dead horse. Cricket has knocked the weather off the No1 spot of the office water cooler conversations.

[harro]

I had no idea a test was on, and now I do.
A brilliant marketing ploy.
It certainly has breathed more life into the dead horse. Cricket has knocked the weather off the No1 spot of the office water cooler conversations.

Mick, this incident is going to cost CA and cricket in general in this country a ****ing fortune.
PR, I think not!

[Ausfree]

I had no idea a test was on, and now I do.
A brilliant marketing ploy.
It certainly has breathed more life into the dead horse. Cricket has knocked the weather off the No1 spot of the office water cooler conversations.

Smith will now be always remembered as the captain who cheated. His reputation will be even worse than the Chappell brothers in the underarm bowling incident. At least underarm bowling was legal at that time, ball tampering has never been legal.

[Mick_Marsh]

Mick, this incident is going to cost CA and cricket in general in this country a ****ing fortune.
PR, I think not!

How?
Will they be fined millions? Did the Indians get fined millions when they got caught ball tampering.

Please supply a breakdown of cost.
How exactly will it cost CA and cricket in general?

[Mick_Marsh]

His reputation will be even worse than the Chappell brothers in the underarm bowling incident. At least underarm bowling was legal at that time, ball tampering has never been legal.
Well forgotten.
Who are the Chappell brothers?

[cripesamighty]

Wasn't the South African Captain (Faf du Plessis) charged with ball tampering before Xmas just gone when playing against Australia in Hobart? Not excusing the Australian action at all, just saying this sort of behaviour should be eradicated from the game across the board.

[Mick_Marsh]

Wasn't the South African Captain (Faf du Plessis) charged with ball tampering before Xmas just gone when playing against Australia in Hobart? Not excusing the Australian action at all, just saying this sort of behaviour should be eradicated from the game across the board.
See, most have forgotten that incident already. It was a little over a year ago.
Cricket Ball Tampering: An Every Day Occurrence - Last Word on Cricket (http://lastwordoncricket.com/2016/11/25/cricket-ball-tampering-every-day-occurrence/)

[RANDLOVER]

Even more concerning (and I may start to sound like a conspiracy theorist). What were the betting odds on "ball tampering on the 3rd day of the 3rd test"? Surely with all the cameras they should just know they were guaranteed to be caught?

[Ferret]

Wasn't the South African Captain (Faf du Plessis) charged with ball tampering before Xmas ...

He has been charged with ball tampering twice - scuffing the ball on a zipper and "spit balling" using a Minty.

[67hardtop]

They just said on ch7 news the camara men had a tip off and were told to concentrate on filming that bowler...

[patclan]

instant dismissal for any and everyone involved with a lifetime ban. IMHOWhen my wife heard about it she assumed it was a jail-able offense and wants them to go down for it. A life time ban should be the minimum for all of them involved, only way to clean it up and restore some dignity.

[donh54]

Even more concerning (and I may start to sound like a conspiracy theorist). What were the betting odds on "ball tampering on the 3rd day of the 3rd test"? Surely with all the cameras they should just know they were guaranteed to be caught?

Add to this, that if you were hoping to get away with something like this, given all the camera coverage, why the hell would you use bright yellow tape when you're wearing whites???

If CA doesn't sack them all for the tampering offence, they should sack them all for stupidity, instead!!!! :bat::bat::bat:

[DiscoMick]

After thinking about this, I think Bancroft should cop the usual tampering penalty, Smith should be sacked as captain for causing illegal action by his team and Warner should be sacked as vice captain because of repeatedly proving he's a dickhead.

[ATH]

What absolute bollocks. All the wailing and gnashing of teeth are purely because they got caught in a very amateurish effort to gain advantage. Australia has had a "win at all cost' attitude for many years and the whole country loves a winner.
Sportsmanship doesn't come into it, there's no prizes for second place is the normal attitude.
And as for those tossers in parliament expressing disgust....... they've got to be joking.
AlanH.

[Bigbjorn]

So they got caught doing what every team has been doing for ever. Have they reduced themselves to the level of the Poms, Boers, and Curry Burglars who have all been caught at this before? Who cares. It is only cricket.

[biggin]

Good one bigbjorn. Seems you have the mentality to play for Australia.

[Eevo]

all fair in love and war and cricket

[Ausfree]

So they got caught doing what every team has been doing for ever. Have they reduced themselves to the level of the Poms, Boers, and Curry Burglars who have all been caught at this before? Who cares. It is only cricket.

We don't have to cheat, we are better than that. If other teams want to do it and get caught they should suffer the consequences. The fact that this Australian team has cheated will put a stain on our team for many years. As an aside I read on the front page of the Sydney "Daily Telegraph" that Trevor Chappell tells how the underarm episode against New Zealand in 1981 forever tainted him and he warns Smith what to expect.

[Homestar]

What absolute bollocks. All the wailing and gnashing of teeth are purely because they got caught in a very amateurish effort to gain advantage. Australia has had a "win at all cost' attitude for many years and the whole country loves a winner.
Sportsmanship doesn't come into it, there's no prizes for second place is the normal attitude.
And as for those tossers in parliament expressing disgust....... they've got to be joking.
AlanH.

The whole Country loves a 'clean' Winner - be it free from drugs or cheating, there's nothing better - Aussies HATE cheaters. Smith will be forever remebered as a cheater now, his career is shot even if it was going on before doesn't matter. The talk back on radio yesterday was about 99% against this with only a couple of people saying it was ok because it's always happened.

The public outrage is what is likely to get Smith and Warner sacked, not CA who would consider this a catastrophe for the team, but it needs to be done.

I think it goes higher than those 2 though, Lehmann must have known as would others.

CA needs to think long and hard about this - letting them off with a slap on the wrist will forever ruin the brand on the Australian Cricket Team.

[martnH]

I am laughing my are off when ppl say it's okay because it happens

I guess it's time to tell who is hypocritical.

[cripesamighty]

I imagine a whole bunch of young cricketers in junior grades will be watching this with interest as it will set the tone for what they think they can get away with when they get to the senior level. Whether you believe the decision to cheat was good, bad or indifferent, CA would do well to nip this in the bud straight away.

[DiscoMick]

Yep, I see Renshaw and Sutherland both on the plane to SA ahead of a big announcement.

[Tins]

This entire thread is hilarious. Have you all looked back at what you have said?

My two bobs. This has been coming for years. If the South Africans or the English had done this you would be all over it, and gleefully as well. The fact is decency in cricket died with Adam 'I will walk' Gilchrist. He was the last decent sportsman to play the game, and his sportsmanship, and the game itself, died under the Captaincy of one Steve Waugh. Waugh, like Chappelli before him, saw $$$, and nothing else mattered. Cricket died with those two blokes. I know I will be howled down with this opinion. All that means is that I am older than you, and remember a day when cricket meant something other than money.

Donald Bradman would be causing tremors at Adelaide's Centennial Park. See? How many of you knew he was buried there? How many of you know who he was, and I don't mean his batting average.

There is no excuse for what people are led to believe is cricket. What we see now is disgusting and disgraceful. If you are disturbed by what you see, think about not watching, and not supporting the viewing platform you subscribe to. Oh, wait, that's a little too hard, isn't it?

Not for me. I have ditched the whole thing. It disgusts me, and I paid it money? How stupid is that? Oh, that's right, it was "entertainment". Right.

Enjoy your bills. Enjoy paying for the travesty that you call cricket.

[Eevo]

when your paid the big bucks, your paid to win, no matter the cost.

[Tins]

when your paid the big bucks, your paid to win, no matter the cost.

And there, Eevo, grammar aside, is the problem, writ large. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. **** the game, as long as I'm ok. Does that work for you? It doesn't for me, and I'm done with it.

[Tins]

It doesn't for me, and I'm done with it.

That, however, has been my position for 20 years, give or take. When did Gilly stop playing? Last decent Australian cricketer in my view. Plenty of good guys playing elsewhere.

[Eevo]

That, however, has been my position for 20 years, give or take. When did Gilly stop playing? Last decent Australian cricketer in my view. Plenty of good guys playing elsewhere.

its funny, i expected michael clarke to be a dirty cheat but i didnt see smith.
i did stop watching cricket about 10 years ago. same time gilly did.

[jerryd]

Coming to a cinema near you.....

[rocket scientist]

Nothing new about ball tampering - they all do it.
The new angle is the conspiracy of the team leaders telling the junior Cameron Bancroft to do the deed.

That's exactly right.
Sick of all the instant experts on the media, especially ex cricketers with an axe to grind.
Of course none of hem have done anything similar...........and the tooth fairy is real.
Another trial by media.
A few kicks up the backside, some heavy fines, then get on with life again. The politicians do worse and still get to run the country!

[Saitch]

I loathe cheating by anyone, anywhere, anytime but there are different levels/effects! Was large scale cheating but all done and dusted now.



Nasser Hussain on being duped by cheat Hansie Cronje: I was naive but I'm still so angry that my Test triumph in South Africa was one big fix | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-3410746/I-naive-m-angry-Test-triumph-South-Africa-one-big-fix.html)

[strangy]

It’s a game nothing more.
Playing cricket or any other game is not a real job.
The players are not heroic or worthy of the ridiculous admiration bestowed on them.
In all they are obscenely overpaid children with no real contribution to society that couldn’t be achieved by the same people without the monstrous pay packets and media hype.

So what do you do when children can’t play nice?
You take away the game and send them home to do chores.
Playtimes over IMO for most “iconic” sports.
But while ever someone pays to watch one of the most boring things on earth it will continue.

[DiscoMick]

Some of the behavior is just bullying, no other word for it. Our team is notorious for bad behavior. They say it's a tough spot and their targets should toughen up. Then they arc up if someone gives them a bit back, which they deserve. Warner is a classic example.
It's just bullying. Other sports control bullying and so should cricket.
They could learn from our women cricketers, who are great role models

[Ausfree]

Coming to a cinema near you.....
And the Gold Logie goes to Jerry for the best (and funniest) post of the Thread.........Great work mate....:thumbsup:

[ramblingboy42]

In its pure format , it's a great game.

A bowler throws(bowls) a half kilo leather dressed ball down a 20mtr pitch attempting to hit the stumps.

At the opposite end to the bowler is another guy whose aim is to defend the stumps from the bowlers intentions and also hit the ball and score some runs.

Simple isn't it?

That simple format has evolved into one of the highest paid , dishonest 'sports' being watched on the planet.

A young cricketer learns every form of cheating and gambling opportunity in the game as he progresses through club cricket and the stakes get higher and higher as he progresses through a career.

I went through club cricket and that was enough.....it ceased to be fun after that.

India , who control international cricket , are paid by multi millionaires of which there are more there than the whole of Australia's population.

Corruption exists at all senior levels, everything to do with the game is tampered with.

Look at the incomes offered to players in the bash and giggle t20 series that is growing stronger all the time.

Why wouldn't a player succumb to the disease that surrounds this sport?

Someone offered someone a great deal of money for this latest episode.

[DieselDan]

In its pure format , it's a great game.

A bowler throws(bowls) a half kilo leather dressed ball down a 20mtr pitch attempting to hit the stumps.

At the opposite end to the bowler is another guy whose aim is to defend the stumps from the bowlers intentions and also hit the ball and score some runs.

Simple isn't it?

That simple format has evolved into one of the highest paid , dishonest 'sports' being watched on the planet.

A young cricketer learns every form of cheating and gambling opportunity in the game as he progresses through club cricket and the stakes get higher and higher as he progresses through a career.

I went through club cricket and that was enough.....it ceased to be fun after that.

India , who control international cricket , are paid by multi millionaires of which there are more there than the whole of Australia's population.

Corruption exists at all senior levels, everything to do with the game is tampered with.

Look at the incomes offered to players in the bash and giggle t20 series that is growing stronger all the time.

Why wouldn't a player succumb to the disease that surrounds this sport?

Someone offered someone a great deal of money for this latest episode.


But in this context that is half of the problem.

As Rick pointed out in an earlier post, in an international sporting context and cricket in particular, Australia over the years has made a big point of being holier-than-thou and finger-pointing at other countries wrong-doing, whether it be drug taking, match fixing or whatever and sees itself as the pinnacle of upholding fair play etc.
The rest of the (cricketing) world thinks this is a crock of **** given Australia's rich history of sledging and win at all costs attitude.

So when one of Australia's "can do no wrong" players does something wrong, the rest of the world gleefully puts the boot in!

Cricket fans who still hold on to the belief that Australia is the pinnacle of fair play are obviously gutted at having the dream/myth shattered and ex-players/current administrators want/need to be seen to be outraged to try and show that this is "not the Australian way".

It doesn't matter whether corruption/ball tampering or other dodginess exists at a local level or not, on an international stage Australia has simply set itself up for a fall. The fact they admitted the ball tampering was a pre-meditated decision has just made the fall further.

[Homestar]

It’s a game nothing more.
Playing cricket or any other game is not a real job.
The players are not heroic or worthy of the ridiculous admiration bestowed on them.
In all they are obscenely overpaid children with no real contribution to society that couldn’t be achieved by the same people without the monstrous pay packets and media hype.

So what do you do when children can’t play nice?
You take away the game and send them home to do chores.
Playtimes over IMO for most “iconic” sports.
But while ever someone pays to watch one of the most boring things on earth it will continue.

Pretty sure their pay checks allow them to make it a full time job no matter what your opinion is of what they do. [emoji6]

Switch off if you want, no dramas but some of us here enjoy Cricket.

[101RRS]

They could learn from our women cricketers, who are great role models

But they bat and bowl like girls [biggrin]

[donh54]

How come they're still wearing the team colours while heading for the airport? Should be summarily dismissed!

[strangy]

He he, I actually don’t turn it on[emoji846]
But have enjoyed playing the odd game.

[DiscoMick]

Smith and Warner banned for a year by Cricket Australia for ball tampering

Smith and Warner banned for a year by Cricket Australia for ball tampering | Sport | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/mar/28/steve-smith-david-warner-banned-one-year-cricket-australia-ball-tampering?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)

[DiscoMick]

Cricket gave us hope, a place. Don't we deserve better? (We do not)

Cricket gave us hope, a place. Don't we deserve better? (We do not) | First Dog on the Moon | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/28/cricket-gave-us-hope-a-place-dont-we-deserve-better-we-do-not?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)

[jerryd]

And the Gold Logie goes to Jerry for the best (and funniest) post of the Thread.........Great work mate....:thumbsup:


Do I get a trophy ??? :whistling:

[Eevo]

1 year, **** off, thats **** weak.
should be life

[Fifth Columnist]

1 year, **** off, thats **** weak.
should be lifeTotally **** agree.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

and a couple of million $$$,, each.

[Pickles2]

A one year ban for Smith & Warner, nine months for Bancroft, Smith & Bancroft are to have no leadership roles for a year after their ban expires, and Warner is never to again be considered for a leadership role.
Pickles.

[DiscoMick]

They've also lost their IPL spots, which means over a million each to them.
Seems the ball tampering was Warner's idea, and Smith allowed it. Bancroft did as told. Warner banned from any future leadership role.

[Mick_Marsh]

1 year, **** off, thats **** weak.
should be life

And Du Plessis should have got two life bans?
No, wait, he's still captain.

[Eevo]

And Du Plessis should have got two life bans?
No, wait, he's still captain.

thats not for CA to decide.

[DiscoMick]

Swift and severe punishment for Smith and co but questions remain

Swift and severe punishment for Smith and co but questions remain | Andy Bull | Sport | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2018/mar/28/swift-severe-punishment-smith-warner-questions-remain?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)

[Mick_Marsh]

They could learn from our women cricketers, who are great role models
Yep. Great role models indeed.
Former Australian cricketer Melissa Quinn allegedly faked cancer for cash (http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/former-australian-cricketer-melissa-quinn-allegedly-faked-cancer-for-cash/ar-AAvdCN9)

[Ausfree]

Tell me again why Darren Lehman is not part of the "leadership group". I thought as coach he would have some input.....................so let me figure this out, the Aussie coach is not part of the leadership group, how can he function as coach?????????:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling: Yeah right.....

[DiscoMick]

Sponsors abandon cricketers in droves as ball-tampering scandal takes its toll
Magellan tears up sponsorship deal with Cricket Australia over ball-tampering scandal - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-29/asics-terminates-deals-with-david-warner-and-cameron-bancroft/9600470)

[SBD4]

All mens sport in Australia needs to take this as a wake up call. Too much whinging, to much entitlement, too much aggression, too much selfishness, too much money.

Time for sports men to take a look at how sports women conduct themselves. Our women's teams are brilliant and do inspire pride:

Netball
Rugby
Cricket
Football
New AFL teams

They are playing for the love of the game.. it sure isn't for the money.

[SPROVER]

All mens sport in Australia needs to take this as a wake up call. Too much whinging, to much entitlement, too much aggression, too much selfishness, too much money.

Time for sports men to take a look at how sports women conduct themselves. Our women's teams are brilliant and do inspire pride:

Netball
Rugby
Cricket
Football
New AFL teams

They are playing for the love of the game.. it sure isn't for the money.I agree with the wake up call.... but do you really think if the women were not getting paid that they would do it for the fun of it?
I highly doubt it.

[DiscoMick]

I agree with the wake up call.... but do you really think if the women were not getting paid that they would do it for the fun of it?
I highly doubt it.So what if they're paid - the men are paid a lot more.

[Fifth Columnist]

Assie cricket has done what should have been done years ago.
They've put the hammer down and set the standard for other teams around the world from club level to International.

[Phil B]

Assie cricket has done what should have been done years ago.
They've put the hammer down and set the standard for other teams around the world from club level to International.

Before you all carry on with this have a look at Smiths interview at Sydney airport
Absolutely gut wrenching.

[Fifth Columnist]

Before you all carry on with this have a look at Smiths interview at Sydney airport
Absolutely gut wrenching.I have, but it doesn't negate what he has done and allowed to be done.

[Phil B]

I have, but it doesn't negate what he has done and allowed to be done.

Agree but he is already being punished
Enough said.

[SPROVER]

So what if they're paid - the men are paid a lot more.And the problem is?

[Eevo]

Before you all carry on with this have a look at Smiths interview at Sydney airport
Absolutely gut wrenching.

not crocodiles tears
but i think he's sorry he got caught, not that he cheated

[Eevo]

actually the last 30 seconds feel like crocodile tears

[Eevo]

Cricket Australia just announced new sponsor, Bunnings Warehouse & Mitre 10 Hardware

[Fifth Columnist]

Cricket Australia just announced new sponsor, Bunnings Warehouse & Mitre 10 HardwareDo they sell sandpaper?

[Eevo]

Do they sell sandpaper?
[bigwhistle]

[Eevo]

Lehmann announces shock resignation

[Chops]

If he knew what was going on, he shouldn’t have been given the chance to resign, he should have been sacked to show Australia 🇦🇺 means business.

[Ausfree]

The stain extended to Lehmann, he did the right thing by resigning.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The next big question is,,

who's the next Captain?

I can only ASSUME Tim Paine is a nightwatchman...

[DiscoMick]

Paine is experienced. This is a big opportunity for him.

Lehman's resignation is interesting, after he initially refused to go. Cricket Australia may have decided Smith's tears were not enough contrition to satisfy the public.

'This is the right thing to do': Lehmann steps down over ball-tampering scandal
Darren Lehmann steps down as Australian cricket coach over ball-tampering scandal - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-29/darren-lehmann-steps-down-over-ball-tampering-scandal/9604014)

[CraigE]

I have never been so ashamed of our cricket team since the underarm bowling incident against New Zealand all those years ago, even though it was legal at the time it was still unsportsmanlike. Smith has to be sacked along with Warner who really needs anger management therapy. Action should be taken against the bowler too as well as Lehman. We are better than this and as one person on this Thread has already mentioned, Australian cricketers have been sledging and scraping the bottom of the barrel for sportmanship for some time now.

God, I'm embarrassed.
The big difference between the two is this episode is blatant cheating, the under arm bowling episode was a legitimate ball in cricket at the time under the rules, no cheating and in line with the rules. Distasteful, yes absolutely but not in the same category.
I have empathy for those involved but no sympathy, should be life bans and is time the ICC actually stepped up as well instead of being the joke it has become.

[CraigE]

If he knew what was going on, he shouldn’t have been given the chance to resign, he should have been sacked to show Australia 🇦🇺 means business.
Not sure he did know. Apparently when he saw the vision as it was played, he was straight onto Smith asking " What the F was that?" If so he did not deserve to go. The actions of these 3 are going to be long lasting and destroy a lot of careers.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I dont think leeman knew,, and he certainly wouldnt be pressured by anybody to go( as in, he would disregard said pressure),
I reckon Bancroft's appeal will halve his sentance, CA wins nothing and gains everything by being seen as not heartless bartards,,
I was happy with Warners interview, he took blame for what he did, no-one can expect him to name anybody else,, if he didnt quite answer some questions,, really what did you expect??

[DiscoMick]

Not sure he did know. Apparently when he saw the vision as it was played, he was straight onto Smith asking " What the F was that?" If so he did not deserve to go. The actions of these 3 are going to be long lasting and destroy a lot of careers.Apparently when Lehman saw the TV footage he radioed the 12th man to get out and ask Smith for an explanation. Of course, it was actually Warner who put Bancroft up to it. Smith's offence was failing to stop Warner from making Bancroft do it, I read. I don't have any sympathy for Warner - he's just a nasty piece of work.

[RHS58]

Is there any point in ball tampering if the bowlers aren’t in on it?
Starc is out injured now for a while. Significant?

[Bigbjorn]

Ian, you started this. Will you stop tampering with balls. I am starting to think you are a Victorian.

[RANDLOVER]

The bowlers doesn't have to be in on it, they just recognise which side of the ball is smoother than the other, and shine that side as they are allowed to.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The team Ball Manager looks after the er, cough, shining,,,
which in that case was Mr Bancroft,,,
ONLY because Mr Warner had been warned about shining the ball with his bandaged fingers and thought Mr Bancroft would fly under the TV radar as the Ball Manager,,
could have been any team member,, just Mr bancroft was a nobody newbie and unlikely to gather much TV time,,, [bighmmm][bighmmm][bighmmm]

[Eevo]

Apparently when Lehman saw the TV footage he radioed the 12th man to get out and ask Smith for an explanation. Of course, it was actually Warner who put Bancroft up to it. Smith's offence was failing to stop Warner from making Bancroft do it, I read. I don't have any sympathy for Warner - he's just a nasty piece of work.

i think your on the ball mick (excuse the pun)

smith is just as a guilty as warner. he turned a blind eye. he's meant to be leading the team, he's done just the opposite.
bancroft i might have some sympathy for depending if it was his idea or not. did warner put him up to it? would he of been able to say no to warner?

[RANDLOVER]

..........
ONLY because Mr Warner had been warned about shining the ball with his bandaged fingers and thought Mr Bancroft would fly under the TV radar as the Ball Manager,,
could have been any team member,, just Mr bancroft was a nobody newbie and unlikely to gather much TV time,,, [bighmmm][bighmmm][bighmmm]

The earlier bandaged (sometimes called taped) fingers incident might explain the tape and sand granule excuse that was 1st used, this plot might be deeper than we realise.

[V8Ian]

The root of the problem it that the sport has gone out of high level sports and been replaced with profits.

[V8Ian]

Ian, you started this. Will you stop tampering with balls. I am starting to think you are a Victorian.
Low blow Brian, I'm deeply hurt. [wink11]

[DiscoMick]

The long road from Bradman's moral lesson to Bancroft's ball tampering
The long road from Bradman's moral lesson to Bancroft's ball tampering - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-02/how-australian-cricket-went-from-bradman-to-ball-tampering/9608314)

[Mick_Marsh]

At least they have some supporters.

Ball-tampering players welcome at English county team Surrey, says coach Michael Di Venuto - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-04-18/michael-di-venuto-keen-to-sign-one-of-ball-tampering-players/9670120)

"They are quality people who I have spent a lot of time with. It was tough to watch and see them treated as criminals for something that goes on in sport."

[Mick_Marsh]

Sri Lanka captain Dinesh Chandimal charged with changing condition of ball in Test against West Indies - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-18/sri-lanka-captain-dinesh-chandimal-charged-with-changing-ball/9879394)

Where are the calls for Dinesh to be banned?

[Homestar]

Sri Lanka captain Dinesh Chandimal charged with changing condition of ball in Test against West Indies - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-18/sri-lanka-captain-dinesh-chandimal-charged-with-changing-ball/9879394)

Where are the calls for Dinesh to be banned?

Why? Does he play for Australia now or something? [emoji6]. Maybe it’s not a surprise to everyone...

[grey_ghost]

I doubt that he will get banned, if he does - people will say that it's a racism issue... [bawl][wink11][tonguewink]