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jezzarezza
12th April 2018, 07:24 PM
Hey team, Just wondering if anyone knows of larger mirrors that will fit the disco 2 (pre facelift). Note: NOT the extended caravan ones for towing. I just find the mirrors a bit small after my previous car (modern dual cab ute) which had a much higher profile and maybe slightly wider.

thanks

AK83
12th April 2018, 07:51 PM
Hey team, Just wondering if anyone knows of larger mirrors that will fit the disco 2 (pre facelift). Note: NOT the extended caravan ones for towing. I just find the mirrors a bit small after my previous car (modern dual cab ute) which had a much higher profile and maybe slightly wider.

thanks

D1 and D2 same design .. same annoyances!

I had the same feeling coming from my previous vehicle. For me the height(or lack of in the Disco's mirrors) is the major problem.

I've learned to live with it now.

jezzarezza
12th April 2018, 07:56 PM
D1 and D2 same design .. same annoyances!

I had the same feeling coming from my previous vehicle. For me the height(or lack of in the Disco's mirrors) is the major problem.

I've learned to live with it now.

They have a few quirks, most forgivable, some loveable :)

I was hoping there might be similarities with the mounting part of the mirror with other car companies. Definitely hard to find any after market ones on google

gavinwibrow
12th April 2018, 08:07 PM
They have a few quirks, most forgivable, some loveable :)

I was hoping there might be similarities with the mounting part of the mirror with other car companies. Definitely hard to find any after market ones on google

I eventually gave up and fitted the small double convex mirrors as sold by some of the auto firms on top of the mirror frames. I did put a post and pic on here maybe 12 months ago, but now having difficulty finding it - will have to stop posting so often.

jezzarezza
12th April 2018, 08:15 PM
I eventually gave up and fitted the small double convex mirrors as sold by some of the auto firms on top of the mirror frames. I did put a post and pic on here maybe 12 months ago, but now having difficulty finding it - will have to stop posting so often.


Haha, I imagine that will be me soon (lots of posts). I need to find someone with 3D printer skills I think

jezzarezza
12th April 2018, 08:36 PM
I eventually gave up and fitted the small double convex mirrors as sold by some of the auto firms on top of the mirror frames. I did put a post and pic on here maybe 12 months ago, but now having difficulty finding it - will have to stop posting so often.


I went searching on your page. found the double DIN conversion thread. I'm keen on the photo's of that too if you get the chance. Should I pm you?

gavinwibrow
12th April 2018, 09:31 PM
I went searching on your page. found the double DIN conversion thread. I'm keen on the photo's of that too if you get the chance. Should I pm you?


Found the mirror pics. PM me with an email address and I'll forward the DIN docs I have - they are too big for a PM itself

thai_tiger
12th April 2018, 11:09 PM
would be great if enough of us got together to put in an order to someone like DISCOVERY 3 (http://www.clearviewmirrors.com.au/13510/DISCOVERY-3/) to make one to suit the D2

whitey56
13th April 2018, 05:45 AM
When I was looking for a D2 the one thing I did notice in For Sale photo's was the LHR corner and rear bumper damage on a lot of cars so i suspected the mirrors where average, I am use too them now and reverse into park spots or pick a drive thru park to cut the risk of a dent down.
When i bought my D2 i had too replace the LH lens and for a month it was hopeless until i got rough with it and pushed it into a better position, it's all good now.
I have driven trucks all my life and you soon learn "if in doubt get out and have a look", I have back over a few things like a Courier van but they are "fair game" the way they park in the yard.

Roverlord off road spares
13th April 2018, 09:26 AM
I was towing my boat in my old D1 and had a cop car following me for a few kms with lights going ( no Siren)
Eventually I pulled up and the young cop was abusing me for not pulling over.
He was following me in my blind spot, virtually sitting right on my propeller. I said to him I did not see him as he was in my blind spot. To that he replied you better get bigger mirrors. I couldn't see how bigger mirrors would help, maybe a rear camera would be a better option for propeller huggers

I didn't get booked though and I had done nothing wrong.

jezzarezza
13th April 2018, 02:19 PM
would be great if enough of us got together to put in an order to someone like DISCOVERY 3 (http://www.clearviewmirrors.com.au/13510/DISCOVERY-3/) to make one to suit the D2


good idea! my only problem with those particular mirrors is that they stick out too far. I would just like higher mirrors really, maybe a touch wider but not that wide. Maybe they could do the same mirror without the extended arms? I think maybe the mirrors on my other car had a more convex shape, you could see the blind spot clearly.

jezzarezza
13th April 2018, 02:25 PM
When I was looking for a D2 the one thing I did notice in For Sale photo's was the LHR corner and rear bumper damage on a lot of cars so i suspected the mirrors where average, I am use too them now and reverse into park spots or pick a drive thru park to cut the risk of a dent down.
When i bought my D2 i had too replace the LH lens and for a month it was hopeless until i got rough with it and pushed it into a better position, it's all good now.
I have driven trucks all my life and you soon learn "if in doubt get out and have a look", I have back over a few things like a Courier van but they are "fair game" the way they park in the yard.


Haha, 'fair game', classic!

I do all that, more just looking for more ease while driving. I like to keep an awareness of what's going on in from AND behind esp on the HWY. I think the larger mirrors reduce fatigue, and help to make you more aware

jezzarezza
13th April 2018, 03:24 PM
I was towing my boat in my old D1 and had a cop car following me for a few kms with lights going ( no Siren)
Eventually I pulled up and the young cop was abusing me for not pulling over.
He was following me in my blind spot, virtually sitting right on my propeller. I said to him I did not see him as he was in my blind spot. To that he replied you better get bigger mirrors. I couldn't see how bigger mirrors would help, maybe a rear camera would be a better option for propeller huggers

I didn't get booked though and I had done nothing wrong.


Those extended mirrors are excellent for towing, you'd be surprised how much they help. rear cam would probs be better though. sounds like you got lucky mate, fuzzies aren't always that nice.

Tombie
14th April 2018, 01:25 PM
good idea! my only problem with those particular mirrors is that they stick out too far. I would just like higher mirrors really, maybe a touch wider but not that wide. Maybe they could do the same mirror without the extended arms? I think maybe the mirrors on my other car had a more convex shape, you could see the blind spot clearly.

Just get some convex glass put into the standard mirror if you don’t like them.

The D2 was the last one with flat glass - the D3 has Convex on both sides.... removes blind spot but makes distance a bitch!

cripesamighty
14th April 2018, 01:52 PM
“removes blind spot but makes distance a bitch!”

Oh, I hear ya, coming from a D1 to a D3 sure makes things interesting!

Bazzle218
15th April 2018, 01:16 PM
Found the mirror pics. PM me with an email address and I'll forward the DIN docs I have - they are too big for a PM itself

Could you advice where you got your mirrors from please.

gavinwibrow
15th April 2018, 01:39 PM
Could you advice where you got your mirrors from please.

Now on both cars.

Can't recall if first set were from Repco or Auto/Supercheap, and second set were more recently found at Autobarn. Don't see them around all that often, so may have to order them in. I'm very happy with the "adjustable" additional peripheral views, and having 2 separately adjustable convex mirrors on each item gives a very good spread sideways and up and down to supplement the disco marginal mirrors.


Tip - if you also use extension mirrors with arms that clip over your existing ones, place the little convex ones on the best place to re-inforce the clipons so they won't droop or otherwise move - ask me how I know! From experience, I found the best location was top centre, plus I put a rivet in, in addition to the two way fixing tape.

Roverlord off road spares
15th April 2018, 05:21 PM
Those extended mirrors are excellent for towing, you'd be surprised how much they help. rear cam would probs be better though. sounds like you got lucky mate, fuzzies aren't always that nice.
The reason he followed me was to have a bitch about my speed. I had just left a 60 kph zone that turned to 90kph, it was a single lane, he reckons I wasn't traveling fast enough. I told him I can't accelerate that fast in a D1 towing a boat,it takes a little bit longer because of the tonnes, besides I was turning off to the right not far up the road so it I had of built up speed I would only have to plant the anchors shortly after. Sitting in my blind spot and being on a single laned road with no shoulder to pull over in safely to I had to travel a bit further before I pulled over, I wasn't in the mood for bull faeces from him. His attitude was not good, if I had of done something wrong I'm sure he would have booked me.

V8Ian
15th April 2018, 05:33 PM
I bought a pair of those Clearview mirrors. They stick out too far in the retracted position, exacerbating the blind spot and they don't extend far enough to see past a full width trailer.

rangieman
15th April 2018, 06:18 PM
I bought a pair of those Clearview mirrors. They stick out too far in the retracted position, exacerbating the blind spot and they don't extend far enough to see past a full width trailer.
I thought you would have fitted a set of west coast jobbies to go with the cow boy hat [bigwhistle]
Personally i dont have a issue with the D2 mirrors and as a driver for a occupation i could drive up to 5 + different vehicle`s in a day so you learn to adapt [wink11]

Pedro_The_Swift
17th April 2018, 05:32 AM
"Mirror too small and too low"
so you want to induce another ( though no car actually has blindspots its just bad mirror management) blindspot?
Have you ever tried to see across (right side) of an intersection when mirrors are eye level? there is a HUGE missing area BEHIND the mirror,, especialy those huge toyota mirrors, which I gather is what you want..
Having mirrors below eye level IN NO WAY compromises its ability to reflect stuff.
Have you ever wondered why all production motorcycles have mirrors below eye level?

jezzarezza
17th April 2018, 07:26 AM
I think I understand what you are talking about. I had a Triton, the rearview mirror was in a stupid place obscuring looking ahead and to the left.

I’m talking about the side view mirrors, on the Triton they were great, i got used to them, they obscured nothing, the driving position was high enough above the side mirrors. It’s just that they were slightly higher in profile, like the D3, 4 ones. That and the very slightly convex shape actually helps with vision for me.

Was just hoping there was an aftermarket version, nice, cheapish, easy that was a similar shape

jezzarezza
17th April 2018, 07:38 AM
Just get some convex glass put into the standard mirror if you don’t like them.

The D2 was the last one with flat glass - the D3 has Convex on both sides.... removes blind spot but makes distance a bitch!

Can you get replacement convex?

I remember my old man had some on his work van back in the day that were stick on, too convex and a bit ****.

It really only needs to be the slightest bit convex

jezzarezza
17th April 2018, 08:02 AM
Apologies for the swears

trout1105
17th April 2018, 08:05 AM
Compared to the other 4WD's of the same era the D2 has far superior all round vision from the drivers seat and I personally have No problems with using the standard side and central rear vision mirrors.
Like Pedro said If you set them up correctly you wont have a problem.

AK83
17th April 2018, 09:22 AM
Compared to the other 4WD's of the same era the D2 has far superior all round vision from the drivers seat ....

That's for sure! ... and add the D1 and RRC into that fold too. [thumbsupbig]

Brother had a Ti Patrol prior to his TD5 D2, and it felt claustrophobic with it's small side glass and restricted rear vision .. and no forward vision when off roading from the massive bonnet.
I'd briefly driven an 80series cruiser and don't remember it being as bad as the Patrol, but nothing like the RRC I had at the time.

jezzarezza
17th April 2018, 10:37 AM
Thanks for the replies. Don’t get me wrong, it’s not horrible, just not as good as i’m used to.

I know how to set the mirrors up (rear of car just out of view at relaxed centre drivers position and slightly down to maximise “blind spot” vision). I think I got the tips from a road safety tip Lowndesie did a while back + a friend of mine is a defensive driver teacher and recommends the same.

Was just hoping to improve things

Cheers

donh54
17th April 2018, 11:43 AM
If you're collecting claustrophobic experiences, try getting out of a P38A and into a Santa Fe! Doors up to your ears, and although the A pillar isn't that wide, it just seems to be in the way all the time!

Oh yeah, and I love the way the P38A mirrors drop when you select reverse. Very handy!

Stanleysteamer
20th April 2018, 12:09 AM
Just get some convex glass put into the standard mirror if you don’t like them.

The D2 was the last one with flat glass - the D3 has Convex on both sides.... removes blind spot but makes distance a bitch!

As a D2 driver of a RHD in France, when on motorways towing a huge box trailer, I needed to be able to judge distances properly before pulling out to overtake lorries. So I fitted a flat mirror to the nearside. This much reduced it's field of view but it gave me a decent chance of judging the distance and speed of any vehicle coming up behind in the overtaking lane. The mirror being on the other side of the car from me also reduced the field of view, as you would expect.

Constantly checking is the key to ensuring no one is ever in your blind spot. Some people talk about fixing gigantic Defender style flat mirrors to their Discos, but I have no idea how. All I know is that I tried the strap on extending mirrors and A/ they were impossible to fit any sense and B/ they vibrated so much as to be useless.

Jason789
22nd April 2018, 07:34 PM
Perhaps you could bolt these on. [wink11]

MIRRORS PAIR SUIT HILUX TOYOTA TRUCK UNIVERSAL DOOR SIDE REAR VISION | eBay (https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MIRRORS-PAIR-SUIT-HILUX-TOYOTA-TRUCK-UNIVERSAL-DOOR-SIDE-REAR-VISION/172437155476?hash=item28260e2e94:g:mWQAAOxy~ilSQmp 9)

Cheers,

Jason

trout1105
22nd April 2018, 08:11 PM
I am thinking of giving these a go for when I am towing my boat, Cheep too.

139428

Pedro_The_Swift
25th April 2018, 07:27 PM
My van one is the same attachment method and it works fine.[smilebigeye]
Mine has an oval mirror the same dimensions that I twist sideways,,