Neighbours, who fricken needs em

[Ace]

As you can all imagine i am ****ed off right now. One of the neighbours to staceys house in Cullen has been harrassing us for a colourbond fence for months now, we dont want one, and even if we did we dont have $1000 to pay for our half. The neighbours on the other side want one but said they would pay for it themselves as they want it no one else. Finally someone reasonable. Nuh Huh, now they want us to pay for half of theirs aswell. So thats $2000. Not fricken happy Jan, we dont want to spend $2000 on fences for a house we want to **** off and never see again. But we know that if we dont do it we will never sell the house because when ever someone comes to look at it they are going to say something about the fence. Christ the one who was going to pay themselves has already started putting it up.

I really hate people, they **** me. Why is it that if someone wants a fence that the other person wants, i dont ever like colourbond, they still want us to pay for it. We are only obliged to pay for a fence like the one that is there, which is a basic wire fence. Replacement cost for this is about $600 and i would erect it. So i agreed to give each neighbour $300 which is half the value and then told them i dont care what type of fence they build. Oh no but the colour bond fence cost $2000 to build they tell me. I know that i tell them but they still dont freakin care.

Ok, i feel better now. Dont suppose anyone has $2000 burning a whole in their pocket. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[p38arover]

If one is only required to pay for half of a fence of the same style, then that's all one should pay.

Someone on this forum should know.

But firstly, did the fence need replacement?

If not, then I would imagine that you don't have to pay for any of it if the fence is being replaced just because the neighbour wants a colourbond fence. If I'm right (probably not), then that's worth checking out.

If the neighbour has already commence construction of a fence to which you have not come to an agreement, do they have to bear the whole cost?

Could be worth getting a legal opinion.

In SA - see http://www.lsc.sa.gov.au/pamphlets/fences.doc

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>If you intend to remove or alter an existing fence, you should have your neighbour's permission or a court order. If you want to put up a fence where there has not been one before, your neighbour has a right to object. It is therefore sensible to talk to your neighbour first.
Also, your neighbour does not have to pay anything towards the fencing work unless:
· they have agreed to, or
· the proper procedure has been followed, or
· a court orders them to.
[/b][/quote]

In NSW, see Dividing Fences Act 1988

See http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lrc.nsf/page...es/R59APPENDIXB (http://www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lrc.nsf/pages/R59APPENDIXB)

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>If the proposed work is more expensive than work needed for a sufficient fence, the extra cost should be paid by the person wanting the special fence unless both owners agree to share the total cost. [/b][/quote]

Have you signed the Fencing Notice agreeing to the work?


Ron

[feral]

Keep them hanging Ace!

If they want a colourbond fence that is their problem. If you offer to pay a reasonable cost for a normal fence, then thats it....you don't have to pay anymore. I imagine that there would be a council involved sooner or later making representations for your nice friendly sh*ts next door!!!

Just string it out as long as you can, they don't really have the power to do anything.

Cheers,
Lyndon.

[p38arover]

See also (NSW) http://www.dlg.nsw.gov.au/Files/Information/fences.pdf

plus this one in particular:

http://www.findlaw.com.au/article/314.htm

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Generally there is an obligation on neighbours to contribute equally to the construction of a fence. There are exceptions to this general obligation.

Practical examples. One party wants a fence that is of a quality higher than that which is expected for a sufficient dividing fence in the area. The owner will have to pay the additional costs. [/b][/quote]

and

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>If you simply go ahead with the work, before agreement about the construction of the fence is reached, your neighbour is not liable to contribute to the cost of the fence. [/b][/quote]

[Phoenix]

If the council comes down on your neibours side, then something is wrong. They shouldn't be involving themselves in a disagreement between neibours (rebecca works in planning at a council :wink: ).

Also, check the covanents on the title. Often there is a clause limiting materials that may be used in construction and fencing. Colourbond fences are often expressley forbidden.

You are only required to pay half of the repair / replacement of the same type of fence, they can't force you in any way to pay the $1000 for the colourbond fence. If they want one so badly, they can build one on their property.

[FenianEel]

Ace,

Only a suggestion but......

1. Take out generous home and contents insurance policy
2. Get similar Landlords insurance
2a. Evict current tenants (if any)
3. Buy a heap of Sudafed, Pseudoehapdrines, etc. leave in the house
4. Rent house to Nomads, Gypsy Jokers, Comm's, Odins etc or the like

In no time you will have vengeance on fence builders, no house & a couple of tidy insurance payouts. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :twisted:

Of course 4a. could be to get the lads mentioned above to pay the neighbours a visit one night, show them a few bike parts, ie. chains, etc

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by Phoenix
Also, check the covanents on the title. Often there is a clause limiting materials that may be used in construction and fencing. Colourbond fences are often expressley forbidden.


Phoenix, you've obviously never been to Cullen 8O
Only limits on materials are compulsory asbestos and brick steps.

(only kidding - no offence matt/stacey)...

[UncleHo]

G'day Folks https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Yeh !! 30 Bikers wearing Patches on your Front Steps at 1 am :evil: :twisted: works wonders 8O 8O https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/


been there Done That https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ got rid of the neighbours :wink:

[Ace]

I know the rules, they know the rules, we have made clear the rules. But they dont care. We have been stringing them out for ages because we dont want to pay. The problem is now, that stacey is close friends with the people who are trying to make us pay after they had said they woulod pay. As a result stacey doesnt want to cause any necessary conflict. I dont think we should pay anyone, but i support what stacey wants to do, whether i agree with it or not. We hate the other people and they have made our lives hell harrassing us, they served stacey with a notice a few weeks ago and have now told us they will see us in court. Now i know and all of you intilligent people know that they dont have a leg to stand on but the stupid **** wits are going to try it anyway.

In the end we have to assess whether or not the fence will be an advantage at sale, it might be but because of the location i dont think a solid gold fence would do much for the property value, i dont reckon we will get the 2000 back at the time of sale. Matt

[incisor]

the question i find unshakable is WHY do all you ALL neirbours want to put YOU behind a big colourbond fence?

you been doing naked laps again mate?

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by Ace
stacey is close friends with the people

8O 8O 8O :roll:

Nice friend....

In that case pay them $100, $5 a week


















in 5c coins :twisted:

[Ace]

Originally posted by FenianEel+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FenianEel)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace
stacey is close friends with the people

8O 8O 8O :roll:

Nice friend....

In that case pay them $100, $5 a week


















in 5c coins :twisted:[/b][/quote]

Thats what i would do.

Inc- its not me who wants the fence its the freaks next door, and please dont give me thoughts like them running around their back yard naked. 8O

[ATH]

You're lucky Ace, we had a person of southern european descent (can't call a bastard like him a neighbour) move in next to us and demanded in excess of $5000.00 for our share of his retaining wall!
Needless to say he didn't get it as we already had an adequate fence on the dividing line and we were happy with that. So his revenge was to poison plants, stuff rubbish in gutters, tip rubbish over the fence and generally try to intimidate us.
We had the council rangers and police involved but until we can actually prove it was him they won't do a thing!
Who the hell else can it be?
The council ducked for cover and the cops lost forensic samples!

Anyway on the cops advice we got a security camera fixed up and caught him spraying plants, called the police who arrested him but in the end as there was a time delay between him spraying and the plants dying they said there was nothing they could do.
I've now enraged him by geting the council to make him move his aircon which was so noisy it kept us awake sometimes. He knew the rules but told his contractor that's where he wanted it and they put it there right beside our house.
We're now waiting for him to try and extract revenge in some other nasty little way so I've moved the boat to my daughters place.
I'll fix him eventually 'cos as they say "Revenge is a dish best eaten cold".

[Phoenix]

The are doing what 8O 8O

I'm surprised that their lawyer didn't laugh at them https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Have you checked the covenants to make sure there isn't something saying that the owner must fence? that's also a common one, but from what Ron has posted, well, it should be an easy win.

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by AlanH

We're now waiting for him to try and extract revenge in some other nasty little way so I've moved the boat to my daughters place.
I'll fix him eventually 'cos as they say "Revenge is a dish best eaten cold".

I don't envy you AlanH, a nasty situation, but i'm sure that we can think of a few ideas between us :twisted: :twisted:

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by AlanH
You're lucky Ace, we had a person of southern european descent (can't call a bas**rd like him a neighbour) move in next to us and demanded in excess of $5000.00 for our share of his retaining wall!
Needless to say he didn't get it as we already had an adequate fence on the dividing line and we were happy with that. So his revenge was to poison plants, stuff rubbish in gutters, tip rubbish over the fence and generally try to intimidate us.
We had the council rangers and police involved but until we can actually prove it was him they won't do a thing!
Who the hell else can it be?
The council ducked for cover and the cops lost forensic samples!

Anyway on the cops advice we got a security camera fixed up and caught him spraying plants, called the police who arrested him but in the end as there was a time delay between him spraying and the plants dying they said there was nothing they could do.
I've now enraged him by geting the council to make him move his aircon which was so noisy it kept us awake sometimes. He knew the rules but told his contractor that's where he wanted it and they put it there right beside our house.
We're now waiting for him to try and extract revenge in some other nasty little way so I've moved the boat to my daughters place.
I'll fix him eventually 'cos as they say "Revenge is a dish best eaten cold".

Do what the Kiwis do......

Steal his thongs and shag his cat when he's out.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Phoenix
The are doing what 8O 8O

I'm surprised that their lawyer didn't laugh at them https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Have you checked the covenants to make sure there isn't something saying that the owner must fence? that's also a common one, but from what Ron has posted, well, it should be an easy win.

Hi ferno, i dont know what the notice they gave stacey said it was a council mediation thing i think. After stacey screwed that up and threw it at her she said she would see us in court. I know and she knows it wouldnt stand up in court, provided, as you said, that they could find a lawyer who would take them seriously.

AlanH- a mate of mine in leeton had the same problem (it wasnt as a result of a fence dispute it was because someone in the flat complex was calling the police everytime the feral ****** had a domestic) they smashed a window and put a garden hose through into his laundry and the police couldnt do anything, the used to draw with lipstick all over their windows and hang g-strings and stuff on his door handle, they stole his shoes off his front lawn and weeded their garden and threw all the weeds over the fence onto his back verandah. Row set up a webcam one night hooked up to his laptop and filmed her doing it. In the end they moved out because the owner of the flat kicked them out because they were keeping people out of the other two flats in the complex he owned. So i know what you mean about the police being able to do anything, or unwilling to anything. Its bull**** how you get shafted because some arse wants to be unreasonable.

The fences at staceys house are stuffed and need replacing, but by law only with what type of fence is there. This they understand but choose to ignore. Matt

[drivesafe]

Ace start by contacting your local council and get there ruling, if any but they will none the less be able to advise you and in most cases you can just phone them and don’t have to even give your name.

Also, go to the local court and see what FREE advice is available.

Unless the laws have changed since I lived in Convict South Wales, if you already have a fence that is in good state of repair, you are not up for one cent.

If the fence is in need of repair or replacement, all you are up for is half the cost of the cheapest materials you can get a quote for and offer your services to help fix the existing fence so you won’t be charged for labour.

One other place to contact is the Dept of Fair Trading. That used to be pretty good when I was down there.

And best of luck, cause I have been there and done that.

[Ace]

thanks drivesafe.

Not knowing the rules isnt the issue, i know it and the neighbours know it. They are just choosing to ignore it, and even if the council or somone else told them again that, i dont think, will stop them harrassing us.

In the end i think stacey just wants to pay them, i am just bitching. Matt

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by Ace
Its I like pink how you get shafted because some arse wants to be unreasonable
8O 8O 8O :? :?

What the?

Ace, stay calm, have a lie down



















and stop smoking crack!!

[p38arover]

Originally posted by Ace
The problem is now, that stacey is close friends with the people who are trying to make us pay after they had said they woulod pay. As a result stacey doesnt want to cause any necessary conflict. I dont think we should pay anyone, but i support what stacey wants to do, whether i agree with it or not.

When it comes to money. there are no friends.

If you don't pay you may lose them as friends.

If you do pay, then you will be left with a sour taste in your mouth and you'll probably still lose them as friends.

As you are selling up, maybe the loss of friendship won't be as bad as you think.

Agree to pay for half the cost of a fence in the original style. What sort of fence was it?

Ron

[Ace]

Originally posted by FenianEel+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FenianEel)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Ace
Its I like pink how you get shafted because some arse wants to be unreasonable
8O 8O 8O :? :?

What the?

Ace, stay calm, have a lie down



















and stop smoking crack!![/b][/quote]

where the hell did i type that? 8O

[ATH]

That's a good idea Phoenix. Come on fellas, thinking caps on and lets have some really good nasty ideas I can put into practice without being caught, hopefully.
I must admit that I sometimes think it'll be worth doing time for that bastard but then luckily I think again.
Growing older slows you down a bit but in these circumstances I think it's best to be patient!
Alan H.

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by FenianEel@
<!--QuoteBegin-Ace
Its I like pink how you get shafted because some arse wants to be unreasonable
8O 8O 8O :? :?

What the?

Ace, stay calm, have a lie down



















and stop smoking crack!!

where the hell did i type that? 8O[/b][/quote]


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[stevo68]

Not that I needed another reason, but I am so glad I live on acreage and cannot see my neighbours all 2 of them https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ . Not that I am anti social by any means :wink: , but just reading stuff like that makes my blood boil. There was something similiar on one of the current affairs shows recently, and luckily it wasnt me as that sort of rubbish I have zero tolerance for. Without knowing the legal aspects to it, but having faced similiar situations in business, one has 2 choices. Bow down, take it in the hooty and wear it with the concept that in the long run one will be better off ( ie weighing up the overall hassle etc) or the other option is to get legal representation and take to it like a pitbull terrier as the inbetween option of mediation doesnt seem to have been a winner. I have used both options at different times, its a matter of weighing up the pros and cons. Either way best of luck mate,

Regards

Stevo

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by AlanH
That's a good idea Phoenix. Come on fellas, thinking caps on and lets have some really good nasty ideas I can put into practice without being caught, hopefully.
I must admit that I sometimes think it'll be worth doing time for that bas**rd but then luckily I think again.
Growing older slows you down a bit but in these circumstances I think it's best to be patient!
Alan H.

Start with standard stuff - order pizzas dialling 1831 before your number, give them his name, address and number.
Then call Taxi's, hookers, trucks of gardening material to his house.
Organise an arborist to cut his trees.
Then call the Opshops, with his details, tell them you're getting divorced and they can come and collect the TV, DVD, washing machine, fridge etc.
Get some roundup and write nice words on front lawn, you know the 4 letter variety. Or a w*nker lives here etc.
Maybe strap some frozen fish wrapped in cotton to the underbody of his car.
Put an obituary in the paper for him
Call one of those viligante "pedohile chaser" mobs and give them his address.
Tell the DPI he's got fireants in his backyard
Ring the Fed Govt hotline and tell them he's part of Al Qaeda
Drop a borry on the front doorstep, about 1am, then light a fire on his driveaway, he comes out - steps in it - hey presto!
Put wasps in his mailbox
Condoms on his external tap fittings
superglue his locks, (car too)
pretend to be him,
Call a real estate agent, tell him you want to sell your house
Enter every on line scam, telemarketing database, etc. with his details
Start an online affair with a woman, agree to meet at his place when his wife's home
Advertise his car on ebay, with no reserve

MMMMMM, I really am a nice bloke!

[one_iota]

Originally posted by p38arover


When it comes to <span style="color:red">moeny</span>. there are no friends.

If you don't pay you may lose them as <span style="color:red">froemds</span>

If you do pay, then you will be left with a sour taste in your mouth and you'll probably lose them as friends.

As you are selling up, maybe the loss of friendship won't be as bad as you think.

Agree <span style="color:red">tp</span> style. What sort of fence was it?

Ron

Have you been on the <span style="color:red">Red</span> Ron :wink:

[drivesafe]

Hi FenianEel, never use your own phone to make any form of nuisance calls because if it does end up in court you may find a court order to Telstra will give them a full record of all calls made.

Just use a public phone.

Another good job for his phone is to make a call to some mail order company, asking for information on their products and request all details be faxed to you only give them his number. There are a number of ways of doing this but the point is he won’t know what’s going on unless he puts a fax on his line and they will keep trying to send the fax until they get a response ( or give up ) either way it doesn’t come back on you.

If you use super glue don’t just do the locks. Go to one of the elcheapo stores, Crazy Clarks and so on, and buy one of those $2 packs of 8 or ten tubes and not only do the locks but go around the edges of the doors as well. Car, house, garage, letter box and so on.

Pour quick setting cement down his drains.

Turn his off peak off. He won’t know about it until he runs out of hot water and then has to wait till the next day for hot water or with a bit of luck, he’ll call an electrician first and have to pay the call out.

There's a lot more you can do.

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by drivesafe
Hi FenianEel, never use your own phone to make any form of nuisance calls because if it does end up in court you may find a court order to Telstra will give them a full record of all calls made.

Just use a public phone.

Another good job for his phone is to make a call to some mail order company, asking for information on their products and request all details be faxed to you only give them his number. There are a number of ways of doing this but the point is he won’t know what’s going on unless he puts a fax on his line and they will keep trying to send the fax until they get a response ( or give up ) either way it doesn’t come back on you.

If you use super glue don’t just do the locks. Go to one of the elcheapo stores, Crazy Clarks and so on, and buy one of those $2 packs of 8 or ten tubes and not only do the locks but go around the edges of the doors as well. Car, house, garage, letter box and so on.

Pour quick setting cement down his drains.

Turn his off peak off. He won’t know about it until he runs out of hot water and then has to wait till the next day for hot water or with a bit of luck, he’ll call an electrician first and have to pay the call out.

There's a lot more you can do.

You evil bastard, i love it :twisted:

Good point on the phone, that's why you use a public phone, with gloves on across the other side of town when calling in bomb threats!

A tosser we went to school with did a bomb hoax to the Feds, and wanted a few mill or he'd blow something up. FROM HIS HOME PHONE. He's now in year 4 or a 5 year stint, in the bighouse!!! Knob :roll:

Oh that's it - now the spooks'll be all over this forum,thread - we'll all be blacklisted. AARRGH :twisted:

[ATH]

Thanks men. There's some really good ideas there except those about his lawn .......... he hasn't got one!
However what he does have in some nice light coloured brick paving (he didn't pay the blokes that laid it) so maybe a tub of the colouring the brickies use in cement will look good on it. I'll just have to wait for some good rain so it'll really wash it all over.
You've all got me thinking now and maybe I'll get some satisfaction in the not too distant future.
Roll on the rains.
Alan H.

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by AlanH
Thanks men. There's some really good ideas there except those about his lawn .......... he hasn't got one!
However what he does have in some nice light coloured brick paving (he didn't pay the blokes that laid it) so maybe a tub of the colouring the brickies use in cement will look good on it. I'll just have to wait for some good rain so it'll really wash it all over.
You've all got me thinking now and maybe I'll get some satisfaction in the not too distant future.
Roll on the rains.
Alan H.

Just remember - as with all posts here, it didn't happen without pictures!!!!!

(mind you, neither will the police prosecutions case against you afterwards) https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[drivesafe]

Originally posted by FenianEel
You evil bas**rd, i love it :twisted:

It’s not that I am evil, it just that I use to own a small security installation business and these are stories that my customers told me and I know for a fact, many of them were told to me after the customer had either had it done to them or they had done it to some deserving scum bag.

But you didn’t hear it from me. :roll:

Cheers and DON"T GET CAUGHT :wink:

[p38arover]

[quote=p38arover]

When it comes to <span style="color:red">moeny</span>. there are no friends.

If you don't pay you may lose them as <span style="color:red">froemds</span>

If you do pay, then you will be left with a sour taste in your mouth and you'll probably lose them as friends.

As you are selling up, maybe the loss of friendship won't be as bad as you think.

Agree <span style="color:red">tp</span> style. What sort of fence was it?

Ron

Have you been on the <span style="color:red">Red</span>

No, too few hours sleep after working 11pm-7am shift.

I just saw them a few minutes ago before reading your post.

Ron

[disco95]

Ace, I'd probably be inclined to pay, I think a decent colourbond fence will add to the value of the house. I've been looking at houses a fair bit lately and it's one of the things I personaly look for, and see advertised as a plus for any property.
On the otherhand I'm a stubborn bastard and if it got to the stage it has for you I'd tell them to go scew themselves.

We've been haveing problems with our neighbours too, they've complained to the council about our dogs barking, the stupid thing is that theirs are worse than ours. :roll:
We rang the council and asked them to talk to our other neighbour, who's a council engineer and loves our dogs. :wink: Nothing like a good reference to back your story.
I want to pay trhem back but Josie won't let me :evil:

[FenianEel]

Originally posted by disco95
I think a decent colourbond fence will add to the value of the house.

How....

Me thinks Disco95, he no been to Cullen, and he no read Ace's post 'bout gold fence.

Big Chief Talking Crap

[disco95]

You're right, I've never been to cullen, but if you're looking for a house to buy, obviously from the things you all say about the place it's a crap area, wouldn't you be looking for a place with decent security, e.g. strong, high fences and stuff?
Also wouldn't it be easier to rent out if it was fenced, you know keep the feral neighbours away? In case someone was looking for a cheap rental property, with the cash old dead aunt Gladys left.

[FenianEel]

Blink - missed it - thats cullen

Rents - lucky to get any

Annual Rates - worth more than property and go up quicker!

Ok it's not quite that bad...just

[disco95]

Originally posted by FenianEel
Blink - missed it - thats cullen

Rents - lucky to get any

Annual Rates - worth more than property and go up quicker!

Ok it's not quite that bad...just

O.K. so it's not a cesspool, it's just virtually non existant.

[one_iota]

Neighbours :roll:

Sure we don't need them but we have them.

A happy neighbour is generally a good neighbour sure there are exceptions but if replacing a fence is an issue then move to Baghdad for some peace and quiet.

I'm with you Sean.

If you don't like the neighbours then sell because sure as hell they won't.

It's called neighbourliness. It's no wonder people are found in their units having died six months prior. No one could be bothered unless it involved a fight over a boundary.

We all need to make an effort to get on.

[joe]

We had a pr#ck of a neighbour once , a dog that never stoped barking , drug parties with loud music till 2-3 in the morning , screamed abuse of a night and the place trashed whenever we went out .
Complained to the council only to have this wa#ker wave our complaint form in or face weeks later , cops did nothing for months untill one got cluey and snuck back on foot one night to catch this sap red handed .
We the took him to court (after we had sold up and moved )he was found guilty and fined $400 :wink: .
We live out rural now and have no real neighbours within spiting distance now , we love it so do the kids , the 'burbs suck.
So dont sit and take it give em a slap in the face it's worth it to be told in court "you are in the right and the other party are totaly wrong and had no right to treat you that way". https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Bytemrk]

Ace,

Like 100 people have already said... you only need to pay your half of a basic fence....

If they want the rolls Royce fence... their problem. :evil:

I'd be getting a couple of fencing contractors around to give you written quotes....


Then the total amount I would even contemplate paying is half the lowest quote... everything above that is the responsibility of the Gold Fence lovers.


After all - you have a Series 2 to build....... Imagine what the $2000 you are talking about could do to the project... :twisted:

Cheers, Mark

[LoadedDisco]

ACE one night have a few beers and just run the bloody fence down with the Landy. They wont Know you don’t know anything and there will be no fence to pay for. :roll:
Matrices on the front bull bar no damage. Or Pool acid will work slower then they will what the cheap wooden fence again.

[YRVGreen]

Oooo a get back thread, my fav kind,

Hmm I am pretty fond of the expanding foam in the letter box trick, it fills the whole thing in secs, and drys hard as rock, pain to get out, and the posty will have to chuck his mail on the yard,

cut his phone line from the box out the front,

dead prawns and fish heads on the roof, they rott and smell bad, plus foke dont know they are there, allso attracts birds that **** on everything,..
speaking of wich,.. put a tarp on your car, and start feed the local cockys black berris,

battry acid on the stuff on his washing line ( I know what your thinking I dont feel comfortable breaking into some ones yard,.. Well this is what the good Lord invented the super soaker water pump gun) keep inmind the gun isnt much use for anything else afterwards,.. and he will become a man of the cloth,... as his washing will be holy

leave his tap running,

get yourself termite protection, then drop off some free fire wood for him with nest in it, just a log or so under his home will do the trick,



now I am not saying hey go do these things, but I have seen them done to other people and know they would tick me off,

worst of all,

a tradie friend of mine has a pic on his phone from a guy he used to work with,.. he since left that job for obvious reasions,..
A lady was really giving this guys work mate the skats, with a job they were doing, hot day lots of lights had to be installed lady kept going on with stuff, wanting things moved,, so the tradie, went to the bathroom got the ladys tooth brush and gave him self some back yard irigation with it :!: while it was inside of himself, he snapped some shots with the camera phone, disgusts me every time I think of it,.. now I keep the tooth brush in the fridge just to be safe!!. but you really dont know what people are doing to your gear when they are in the bathroom

[Bushie]

Originally posted by Ace
The fences at staceys house are stuffed and need replacing, but by law only with what type of fence is there. This they understand but choose to ignore. Matt

So by virtue of the dividing fences act you are going to be up for "a sufficient dividing fence" which can be legally enforced.


Originally posted by Dividing fences act 1991
Determination as to “sufficient dividing fence”

In any proceedings under this Act, a Local Court or local land board is to consider all the circumstances of the case when determining the standard for a sufficient dividing fence for the purposes of this Act, including the following:

(a) the existing dividing fence (if any),

(https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ the purposes for which the adjoining lands are used or intended to be used,

&copy; the privacy or other concerns of the adjoining land owners,

(d) the kind of dividing fence usual in the locality,

(e) any policy or code relating to dividing fences adopted by the council of the local government area in which the adjoining lands are situated,

(f) any relevant environmental planning instrument relating to the adjoining lands or to the locality in which they are situated.



So basically you would only be required to pay half of what is considered a "normal" fence for the area - Generally a 1.5m paling fence around suburbia. Now Cullen would be stretching it to be considered surburbia so you may even be able to only pay for half of a wire fence if that is the norm in the area. Let your neighbour know that you will pay half of what you are legally required to (you will eventually, unless you unload the place quickly) then they can put up a colourbond fence if they wish - I take it you don't object to the fence just the expectation that you will pay half for it.



Bushie

[George130]

Coulorbond fences are bad in high fire areas. Check you legal limit and stick to your guns. Friends will negotiate and also understand if you can't afford it. If they don't then they arn't worthwile friends. If you hate the neighbour then SCREW them. Pay your minimum required when you get around to it.
Last time I had a run in it was with a realestat I was renting from. Final outcome on the bond was I don't care not getting it back as long as you never get a cent of it so sue me. They never got a cent either :twisted: :?:

[abaddonxi]

Most of the council guidlines I've read, city and country, say that you have to pay half of the fence built in keeping with fencing in the area.

If everyone in the street has colourbond then you're stuffed.

So get it done quick before the rest of the street gets colourbond.

Get the quotes, make out the cheque for $300, or whatever, let them chase the rest.












Oh, sell the house first.


Real easy for nasty neighbours to shaft you in a sale.























Maybe the extra bucks might just be worth the peace of mind.


https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Cheers
Simon

[Phoenix]

Originally posted by Ace+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix
The are doing what 8O 8O

Hi ferno, i dont know what the notice they gave stacey said it was a council mediation thing i think. [/b][/quote]

Sorry, who were you talking to https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Some interesting ideas in this thread, love the fish in the gutters :twisted:

But seriously Matt, any progress on this one? Legally you have a pretty strong position, but somethimes that's no help.

[stephen]

I have just been through this exact same thing a few months ago, except I was the one wanting a colorbond fence. Reason being the neigbouts are evil people and I did not want to look at them and to keep my family relatively safe. We have moved now even though we have permission and still will errect the a colourbond fence. Anyway Forget council it has nothing to do with fences, forget local court they will never make a decision. Go to the local land board they will send 3 representatives and will make the decision in your favour. I guarantee they will say you pay half the cost of a rural/wire type fence and you neigbour will pay the rest for whatever type of fence they want unless it clearly does not fit in with the surrounding area. This was the decission I was expecting and now have the paperwork and permission to errect the fence. At the end of the day I just wanted a fence the land board do this everyday and are very good. They will give you anywhere from 6 months onwards in agreement with the neigbour to pay your money.

But let your neigbours do all the work, just hold out and make them organise the local land board etc

[CraigE]

Get a copy of the fence regs relating to your shire. If there is already a fence that is acceptable by your shire, eg wire, then you will not be compelled to contribute, but may at your discretion. If there is no fence, then you are compelled to contribute half of the lowest cost acceptable fence. You only need to contribute to an existing fence if it is in need of repair or replacement and then only to the current construction.
I would just tell them to rack off.
As said have a chat to the building surveyor at the local shire/council.

[Ace]

Originally posted by Phoenix+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Phoenix)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Ace@
<!--QuoteBegin-Phoenix
The are doing what 8O 8O

Hi ferno, i dont know what the notice they gave stacey said it was a council mediation thing i think.

Sorry, who were you talking to https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Some interesting ideas in this thread, love the fish in the gutters :twisted:

But seriously Matt, any progress on this one? Legally you have a pretty strong position, but somethimes that's no help.[/b][/quote]

Sorry pheeny meant pheeny not ferno.

I think stacey just wants to pay. In the end she thinks it will help the sale of the house as the only decent fence that could keep dog in is the back on both sides the fence is stuffed and the front one is gone. So fences are needed but i dont really want colourbond. In the end i think they will get what they want, and in the end its up to stacey its her house. I just dont think they should get their fence, they havent been in anyway reasonable so why the hell should i?

As for all the ideas i have duely noted all of them. Matt :twisted:

[p38arover]

Do they know you are selling the house? If not, tell them and tell them you don't want to spend money on new Colorbond fences as you will never recoup the money in that area.

Tell them you don't mind spending on a basic fence but also suggest that they wait for the new owner who may want Colorbond.

If nothing else you should be able to string them out until the property is sold.

Noting that the neighbour has already commenced on the new fence without agreement, you aren't liable for the cost anyway - so that's worth point out as well.

Ron