D5 Jack

[weeds]

Is it the same as the D4? I.e. some owner may purchase a bottle jack and need an adaptor?

[IndusD4]

My D5 is making its way to Australia still so I can't check, but from the manual I'd say it looks familiar:

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Ron

[Bytemrk]

That's a little disappointing...... but at least it has significantly less to lift....

[trout1105]

Good lord, For such a highly advanced 4WD to be equipped with this stupid jack is very unremarkable.

[scarry]

Good lord, For such a highly advanced 4WD to be equipped with this stupid jack is very unremarkable.

I don’t know how they get away with it with the safety regs these days.
I also can’t see it being fit for purpose.

[weeds]

So the OEM jack doesn’t locate in the hole in the chassis where the adaptor on a bottle jack located??

[IndusD4]

Doesn't look that way from the manual, in another 2 months I should be able to tell for sure if there even is a hole in the chassis.

Ron

[LRD414]

So the OEM jack doesn’t locate in the hole in the chassis where the adaptor on a bottle jack located??
Yes the chassis holes on the D4 are for the OEM scissor jack. The bottle jack adapter simply provides the same pin size as OEM jack.

[weeds]

Yes the chassis holes on the D4 are for the OEM scissor jack. The bottle jack adapter simply provides the same pin size as OEM jack.

Yep understand that for the D4.....my question was in relation to the D5, the pic in post 2 doesn’t show a lug on top of the scissor jack that would located into a hole in the chassis.

[Rovingwill]

I am interested in this as well as I would rather use abottle jack than standard one.
The jacking point is completely different to D3/4, it consistsof a lug (suspect made of steel) parallel to the body which is about 100 mmlong, 25 mm high, with a maximum thickness of 15 mm with a slight taper androunded bottom with a 10 mm slot in the middle.
The top of the jack is about 55 mm square with asemi-circular channel in the middle which is about 20 mm wide and about 5 mm ora bit deeper. The lug sits in this channel when jacking the car.
One thing is any adapter should ensure it doesn’t putsidewise force on the lug as it could damage the body.
I did a bit of a test and to lift the rear wheel about 6 mmoff the ground had to lift from 350 mm to 470 mm that you would means a bottlejack would have to have a 120 mm hydraulic lift and maximum height close to 470mm, and in the past, I have found it’s hard to find a jack with those specs,maybe others know where ones are available.
At home I have a 2500 kg trolley jack and like with the D3it should just has enough lift to get the back wheel off the ground and shouldbe able use jacking points.
I think an adapter could be made, but it’s getting the jackmaybe the problem.

[Rovingwill]

I am interested in this as well as I would rather use abottle jack than standard one.
The jacking point is completely different to D3/4, it consistsof a lug (suspect made of steel) parallel to the body which is about 100 mmlong, 25 mm high, with a maximum thickness of 15 mm with a slight taper androunded bottom with a 10 mm slot in the middle.
The top of the jack is about 55 mm square with asemi-circular channel in the middle which is about 20 mm wide and about 5 mm ora bit deeper. The lug sits in this channel when jacking the car.
One thing is any adapter should ensure it doesn’t putsidewise force on the lug as it could damage the body.
I did a bit of a test and to lift the rear wheel about 6 mmoff the ground had to lift from 350 mm to 470 mm that you would means a bottlejack would have to have a 120 mm hydraulic lift and maximum height close to 470mm, and in the past, I have found it’s hard to find a jack with those specs,maybe others know where ones are available.
At home I have a 2500 kg trolley jack and like with the D3it should just has enough lift to get the back wheel off the ground and shouldbe able use jacking points.
I think an adapter could be made, but it’s getting the jackmaybe the problem.

[GP1200]

Hi Guys,
picture of the D5 Jack - it has a grove in the top instead of a locating knob.140836

[trout1105]

Hi Guys,
picture of the D5 Jack - it has a grove in the top instead of a locating knob.140836


Hmmm
$100,000+ car with a $2 jack, Impressive [bigwhistle]

[scarry]

Hmmm
$100,000+ car with a $2 jack, Impressive [bigwhistle]

Umm,i bet a $200,000 RR also has the same jack[bigsad]

Oh,and $100,000 doesn't get you much of a D5.

[trout1105]

I still have the original jack in my D2a and it is a good solid hydraulic bottle jack with the top of it fitting perfectly under the axels Not a cheap and nasty scissor jack that will tend to fall over easily and are absolute bastards to use.

[scarry]

I still have the original jack in my D2a and it is a good solid hydraulic bottle jack with the top of it fitting perfectly under the axels Not a cheap and nasty scissor jack that will tend to fall over easily and are absolute bastards to use.

Actually,a Holden bottle jack from a HQ would be better,if it had the reach....

Nothing wrong with a Defender jack either,but it probably wouldn't fit.

[trout1105]

I would imagine that the majority of people that are buying the new D5's wouldn't know how to change a tyre anyway So the jack itself isn't that critical[bigwhistle]

[IndusD4]

Looks like I will need a new bottle-jack adaptor.

Ron

[GP1200]

To be honest, only had to use the D4 jack ( nearly the same as the D5 jack ) once at the bottom of the Yeagarup Dunes a few years ago - but changed all the tyres on a mates Jeep when it decided to go into limp mode and roll its tyres off the rims when it wasn’t having a hissy fit.... ( a very very long story... )

The factory Jeep jack broke on the first change and the $2-00 Land Rover jack did its thing.

if anyone knows The Widowmaker dune in Yeagarup, it’s not the sort of place to be changing all the tyres on a vehicle that is stuck.

Yes we used common sense and had wood blocks and did it safely, and yes a nice trolly jack would have been nice, but the beers that night tasted a little better knowing that we recovered
the vehicle using a $2.00 Land Rover jack and a bit of grunt work....

so so lay off the jack....
( no pun intended )
Jack

[weeds]

I am interested in this as well as I would rather use abottle jack than standard one.
The jacking point is completely different to D3/4, it consistsof a lug (suspect made of steel) parallel to the body which is about 100 mmlong, 25 mm high, with a maximum thickness of 15 mm with a slight taper androunded bottom with a 10 mm slot in the middle.
The top of the jack is about 55 mm square with asemi-circular channel in the middle which is about 20 mm wide and about 5 mm ora bit deeper. The lug sits in this channel when jacking the car.
One thing is any adapter should ensure it doesn’t putsidewise force on the lug as it could damage the body.
I did a bit of a test and to lift the rear wheel about 6 mmoff the ground had to lift from 350 mm to 470 mm that you would means a bottlejack would have to have a 120 mm hydraulic lift and maximum height close to 470mm, and in the past, I have found it’s hard to find a jack with those specs,maybe others know where ones are available.
At home I have a 2500 kg trolley jack and like with the D3it should just has enough lift to get the back wheel off the ground and shouldbe able use jacking points.
I think an adapter could be made, but it’s getting the jackmaybe the problem.

Thanks for the detailed description.....I was going to get and adaptor made up but maybe it isn’t as straight forward as the D3/4

[WhiteD3]

Correct me if I'm wrong but unlike the D3/4, the D5 does not have to be raised to offroad height to use the jack. So the old conundrum for the D3/4 bottle jack of being short enough to fit under the car vs having the reach to lift the wheel off the ground in off road height doesn't apply to the D5.

So adaptor aside, it should be easier to find a bottle jack to suit.

[LRD414]

But you still have to have enough jack extension to get beyond the suspension travel to get a wheel off the ground. The D3/4 off-road height thing is just to get the suspension closer to maximum before jacking to make the task easier. I’d think that logic applies to a D5 as well. The reach required is from ground to chassis/body with wheel lifted regardless of starting height of chassis/body.

Scott

[Disco-tastic]

You can't just do the jack under the suspension arm trick where it self levels and lifts the wheel? On the D4 there's a little notch on the suspension arms that seems to work just fine.

I have both the scissor jack and a bottle jack in the car - the scissor lift for low height issues, and the bottle jack for everything else (including once the scissor jack has lifted the car high enough to fit it ).

[Nicky]

You can't just do the jack under the suspension arm trick where it self levels and lifts the wheel? On the D4 there's a little notch on the suspension arms that seems to work just fine.

I have both the scissor jack and a bottle jack in the car - the scissor lift for low height issues, and the bottle jack for everything else (including once the scissor jack has lifted the car high enough to fit it ).

On the D4 you can lock the ride height in low and the job is easier.

[WhiteD3]

Has anyone come up with a jack adaptor solution?