Discovery 2 Welding Precautions

[Kaaaiju]

Hi, what do I need to do for welding on the disco? Disconnect the battery and what else?

Thanks

[bblaze]

clean shiny steel to connect earth lead and connect as close as humanly possible to what you are welding
cheers
blaze

[Kaaaiju]

Ok thanks for that

[JR1]

So.... what are you welding?? 🧐

[Kaaaiju]

Just that tie down hook on the back of the chassis that broke off

[Bohica]

Why did it break?

[Kaaaiju]

Out 4wding

[Kaaaiju]

So thanks for replies

[Bohica]

Out 4wding? Did you hit something?

[Kaaaiju]

Yeah I did

[twr7cx]

Leave it off and fit some proper recovery points? Can always tie down on them.

[Kaaaiju]

Yeah I will do that, I'll buy some

[Bohica]

YOu can recover off the tow bar.

[trout1105]

This is a Much better option for a rear recovery point [thumbsupbig]

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[Pedro_The_Swift]

or even this,,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/06/289.jpg

[onebob]

or even this,,
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2018/06/289.jpg

🤨 as a last resort maybe....a common occurrence is a severely bent pin and you may not be able to decouple and return the strap back to it’s owner[emoji846]

[ballbag]

Is the pin not vulnerable with Trout’s apperatus too?

[twr7cx]

Is the pin not vulnerable with Trout’s apperatus too?

Generally not as helps to distribute the load more over the length of the pin and keep it straight.

[trout1105]

Is the pin not vulnerable with Trout’s apperatus too?

I am willing to wager that the strap will break long before the pin will shear when using one of these recovery hitches.
I am not a fan of using the pin only method But if you haven't got a proper recovery hitch it is a far better method than using the factory tie down points.
Besides IF it gets to the point where you are going to shear or bend the pin then you are most likely using way too much force and need to rethink your method of recovery.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

common occurrence ?
maybe the newer pins are made out of cheese,,[biggrin]
I 've dragged a series 3 with camper off a beach and ripped the straps stitching,, (must have been like a moon shot launch in the 3[bigrolf])
Pin was fine.
I reckon all that insert does is make money and add extra leverage to the tow, [bigwhistle]

[trout1105]

I am happy to use a recovery hitch as it only costs a few bucks, takes up bugger all room and you can attach a rated shackle to it and avoid any sharp edges, You also eliminate the risk of bending the pin which would be an absolute bastard to get out on the beach or in the bush.
You can also use them with your drag chain to get firewood, You can't do that with only the pin[biggrin]

[Bohica]

🤨 as a last resort maybe....a common occurrence is a severely bent pin and you may not be able to decouple and return the strap back to it’s owner[emoji846]

And yet that is what the LROCV sya to use as a recovery point. No mention of bent pins.

[trout1105]

common occurrence ?
maybe the newer pins are made out of cheese,,[biggrin]

I don't think the pins have changed But 4wd's are getting heavier and more powerful every year so the chances of bending pins increases with the extra weight and power applied to them.

[onebob]

This is a Much better option for a rear recovery point [thumbsupbig]

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I carry two of those hitch recovery points plus a strap when venturing offroad. One each for the recoverer and the recoveree.
onebob LROCV #131

[onebob]

🤨 as a last resort maybe....a common occurrence is a severely bent pin and you may not be able to decouple and return the strap back to it’s owner[emoji846]

[emoji5] “severely bent” was an overstatement on my behalf... more accurately the pins have been known to deform enough to prevent them from being withdrawn. Whether you can withdraw the pin comes down to the amount of clearance the pin has in the hitch pin holes ...

[mrapocalypse]

Those inserts are also a handy lump of metal to bash things on/with when things need straightening out.

I like mine. Used it in anger a few times. No messing about and is better shear angles on the pin.

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[trout1105]

Those inserts are also a handy lump of metal to bash things on/with when things need straightening out.

I like mine. Used it in anger a few times. No messing about and is better shear angles on the pin.

I.

They Do make a very handy "mini" anvil, Much better than using the drawbar of the van/trailer to straighten out things [thumbsupbig]

[ozscott]

I have used the insert in the D2 since new. I leave it in when offroading. It's far better than using the rear steel.bar. and I cannot recall any HD drop plates for the rear like I have on the front.

Cheers

[Pedro_The_Swift]

shouldnt really need any either,, the standard towbar attaches itself to (both) the chassis pretty well--[wink11]