v8 vs td5

[kitch]

hi people,
i currently have a series 2 v8 disco and have and incling to buy series 2 td5 and are wondering the difference in fuel econemy??
can anyone give me some figures to compare..
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[Redback]

I average 13ltr per/100k towing a 1300kg campertrailer on trips, and around 11 to12 per/100k around town.

I have a heavy foot https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

A V8 doesn't have fuel economy just fuel usage https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

Baz.

[Omaroo]

I get 9.5 to 10.5 in the Defender - and it's somewhat brick-shaped in comparison to a Disco.

[noddy]

Howdy

We have just finished a trip around the country (+50,000) and we were averaging mid13l/100km (pulling a trailer and fully loaded). Our worst was 14l/100km in sand. This is with a remapped ECU, so you could probably get better figures with a standard TD5.

How many Kms are you doing a year? Don't forget the price of diesel over ULP when doing your calcs.

[George130]

I'm averaging 11.4 with mine. thats over 45,000km. Lots of low range work with plenty of load peddle will push it up to around 13l/100km

[Pedro_The_Swift]

series2 V8 20mpg

why would you want to change?

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by Redback

A V8 doesn't have fuel economy just fuel usage https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ :wink:

Baz.


A Diesel doesnt have performance just, well, for the life of me I cant think what a diesel does have.

:wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

100 proof southern comfort https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[tombraider]

[quote=Redback]

A Diesel doesnt have performance just, well, for the life of me I cant think what a diesel does have.

:wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Hahaha now thats funny.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

V8 - 134kw, 300Nm 16-18Mpg

TD5 (mine) 190Kw 520Nm 26Mpg

You tell me which is better :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Pedro_The_Swift]

nice figures tombraider,,
now tell me how much you spent,,
I'll spend the same and we'll meet on the strip.
:wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Ralph1Malph]

Hi,
Inc should make a sticky thread...V8 growl vs the oil burners clank.
I reckon at least once a month this discussion comes up and I LUV it!
If we make it sticky we could be entertained for ages.
It could be named after U2's best selling album..
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Rattle and Hum
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Ralph https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[LoadedDisco]

A V8 makes people look and listen a Diesel makes people block there nose. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[tombraider]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
nice figures tombraider,,
now tell me how much you spent,,
I'll spend the same and we'll meet on the strip.
:wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

You <span style="color:green">really</span> want to know?

OK....

Rechip ECU - $free (I'm a development vehicle)

Intercooler - I built it and sell them so wont disclose price But RRP $1300.00

3" mandrel bent Exhaust - $300.00 (if i paid for it - mate owns shop)

8) 8) 8)

So for $2200.00 I over doubled my power output https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Now, I also built a supercharged 3.9 and a stroked 5.0L and had haltech ECu on it...

Guess what....

They matched / exceeded the power of my TD5 - But for over 2-3 times the $$$$ :oops:



:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

See ya at the track - with my 2.5l * 2.6t brick

(All in fun)
Mike

P.S> to make it fair you have to fit 33x12.5" tyres too :twisted:

[tombraider]

Originally posted by LoadedDisco
A V8 makes people look and listen a Diesel makes people block there nose. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

You seem to have made a typo or 3 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

A V8 makes people:
-sympathise with your wallet
-laugh
-assume you own shares in BP or Mobil

A Diesel makes people:
-Go further between stops
-Get admiring looks from people who know the V8s only carry enough fuel to be weekend toys
-Appreciate that modern diesels are frugal and powerful
-Plan trips, not fuel stops :wink:
-Have more spare $$$ for mods 8)

and the number 1.....

A diesel makes people <span style="color:blue">with V8s jelous:!:</span>

Cheers
Mike

[DaveS3]

Originally posted by LoadedDisco
A V8 makes people look and listen a Diesel makes people block there nose. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I would love a Diesel!
Growl of a 3' exhaust and big turbo whistle 8)

Sounds just as good as an 8

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by tombraider

-Have more spare $$$ for mods 8)

<span style="color:red">which they spend on trying to make them go faster:roll:</span>



and the number 1.....

A diesel makes people <span style="color:blue">with V8s jelous:!:</span>

Cheers
Mike


and look ,, another spelling error :roll:
instead of "jelous"
its " deaf "


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[disco_ute]

Ppl are getting some serious figures out of TD5’s these days for very little money v’s supercharges and after market ecu for v8’s, have a chat to the guys down at LRA in Melb they have just built a TD5 rangie that out performs a 4.0l supercharged v8 (so Andrew says)

I have both!! TD5 Disco is a DD and touring (economy is great) and the RRC V8 is for playing in the bush (economy bwhaaahahaaaaaaa)


But yes argue away always a good read

Mick

[DeeJay]

I just filled up my V8 County @ 52.9 CPL








LPG Best of both worlds ... :wink: :wink:

[Owen]

I have a TD5, My brother a V8. I get 10.5 on the hyway, he gets 14.5

Mine is 15c/l dearer to buy fuel for, translates to the TD5 @ $14.20/100km and the V8 @ $17.40/100km

Thats $3.20 / 100km so 100,000 km is $3200. How mush is the difference in price between the cars ?


Mine is slower

Mine will cost a bomb to fix if something goes wrong

His sounds great

Why did we choose different? Because with another V8 I would drive too fast (300 HP G60 is my fun car), a diesel keeps the licence.......


Have a think, buy with your heart and have no regrets........

[tombraider]

Dont forget....

TD5 service intervals are longer = savings

TD5 service is lubes and filters.... No coil packs, leads, plugs etc...

TD5 doesnt require premium (obviously), later V8s DO. (there goes price parity!)


10.5 vs 14.5 highway.. Agreed... My 5.0L was awesome on highway.

But around town... Well

Your TD5 = 11.5-12.0L
His V8 = Bwahahahahahahahahaha.... Easy 17-18l

Theres your savings!

Then add a trailer! TD5 hardly notices, V8 Owners just cringe!

Yours would only be slower if not chipped... And the price difference is made up easily at resale... 99 V8 D2s are $11k wholesale ATM

Cheers
Mike

[Captain_Rightfoot]

Again... serious offroad in the desert... our td5.. 20l/100. Petrol v8 rangie... exactly the same conditions 45l/100+ 8O That's a lot of extra fuel to carry. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[CraigE]

Geez I would love to get 10.5 - 11 litres per 100kms out of my TD5. Best is about 13.
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[Captain_Rightfoot]

Originally posted by CraigE
Geez I would love to get 10.5 - 11 litres per 100kms out of my TD5. Best is about 13.
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I get 10.5 ... but only with the AC off. With it on it goes up 1-1.5l/100 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[CraigE]

Aye Capt'n, you might be onto something there. Over here the air con is on most of the time.
:twisted: :twisted:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Originally posted by tombraider
Dont forget....

TD5 service intervals are longer = savings

TD5 service is lubes and filters.... No coil packs, leads, plugs etc...

Cheers
Mike


just the odd fuel pump,
or was that oil pump?


and you change your oil at reccommended intervals 8O 8O



are you still on about this Mike? :wink:

[tombraider]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pedro_The_Swift)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-tombraider
Dont forget....

TD5 service intervals are longer = savings

TD5 service is lubes and filters.... No coil packs, leads, plugs etc...

Cheers
Mike


just the odd fuel pump,
or was that oil pump?


and you change your oil at reccommended intervals 8O 8O



are you still on about this Mike? :wink:[/b][/quote]

Huh :!: :?:

Head gasket failures
Cams wearing
Lifters wearing / ticking
MAF failures
Lambda failures
Idler failures
Rear gasket leaks

Nah, not on about anything 8)

[tombraider]

And yeah, I do look after my vehicle.

I do all my own servicing and its done at LR intervals.

Ironically, I have oil testing facilities available and oil always tests well for metals (eg... Lack thereof)

So yeah... My TCO is lower than most!

Cheers
Mike

[Pedro_The_Swift]

yea, must be handy getting free chip upgrades and oil tests,,https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

I still think with a free chip upgrade and $2200 I'd give your brick a run,,

but who would be neutral enough to start us? 8O

[Disco_Drivin_Dude]

Hmmmm.... ye old arguement over V8 vs TD5.

Basiclly it all comes down to personal preference.... you either have a $150000/year job https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ and buy a V8 cause you can afford the petrol and rego or you are like me, watch your pennies and own a TD5. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Every time I see a V8, I can not help but wonder how deep are that drivers pockets 8O . High rego, high fuel and service costs. I got to get a job like yours Pedro, you got to be rolling in cash :wink: .

Just remember, you might blow me away at the lights as you rush to the speed limit, but I'll be blowing the horn and waving at you as I pass you at every second service station :mrgreen: .

When was the last time a V8 driver thought to him/herself, "hmmm got a tank full of motion lotion, lets do a 1000km round trip over the weekend" and not even stop at a service station or decant from jerries? My bet would would be the next time it happens, will be the first (unless of course you V8 dudes have long range tanks). The extra cost in fuel in a V8 would just about for the hotel room for the night :!: .

Anyways that my rant on the topic.... 8)

[jase]

I currently own 3 diesels (as well as 2 diesel farm tractors, 2 pumps & a truck) https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
Am about to yank the V8 out the wife’s P38 and replace with a HS2.8 diesel 8)
nuff said ?

diesel = waaayy lower "whole of life" costs (fuel + maint + resale value)

Jase

PS love the debate and to hear different peoples opinions on justifying their choices

[PhilipA]

Jase,
$10,000 or so for a 2.8 buys a lot of petrol. Why is it that emotionally it is easier to write a cheque for $10,000 than pay $100 instead of $80 at the pump?
Unless of course you have slipped a sleeve and have to rebuild anyway.
I still do not know. Somehow a V8 is part and parcel of a Range Rover.
I do not know what I would do in the same position eg blown engine Buy new V8 or diesel??

Regards Philip A

[blitz]

Not having driven a diesel can anyone answer this for me.

A lot of my driving is in mud: Darwin during the wet. Why I like the V8 is instant power, a good friend of mine owns a hilux that he put a 2.8 into then diff locks front and rear and cant get as far as me. I can only put this down to the fact that when I sink the boot into her she jumps up and sings where as the diesel takes longer gets bogged down and cant pull out.

Nor can he climb up the things I can get up? both vehicles have been modified to hell so in the end are very similar in that respect.

He sits on 80K down the highway I sit on what I want, he gets home on one tank I need to buy a shell tanker for mine.

cheers Blythe

[dungarover]

I like my V8 and that will never change I guess.

Fuel economy isn't an issue for me, I only drive it on weekends and I'm lucky to use $200 a month (last time I filled it was when I went to Crystalvale about 3 weeks ago), although longer trips you spend more of course.

Plus I HATE diesles, it's no the same as a V8 end of story. Pass anything but a petrol station, but I have a big smile on my face blowing money out the exhaust, you only live once even if I am poorer for it :twisted: :twisted:

Trav

[tombraider]

Love this topic.... Always brings a smile to my face!!!

Blow money out your vehicles exhaust :wink:

I'll save on fuel and then **** my extra cash on a tree at the campsite 8)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Mike

[Disco_Drivin_Dude]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Not having driven a diesel can anyone answer this for me.

A lot of my driving is in mud: Darwin during the wet. Why I like the V8 is instant power, a good friend of mine owns a hilux that he put a 2.8 into then diff locks front and rear and cant get as far as me. I can only put this down to the fact that when I sink the boot into her she jumps up and sings where as the diesel takes longer gets bogged down and cant pull out.

Nor can he climb up the things I can get up? both vehicles have been modified to hell so in the end are very similar in that respect.

He sits on 80K down the highway I sit on what I want, he gets home on one tank I need to buy a shell tanker for mine.

cheers Blythe[/b][/quote]

I read somewhere that if you own a Land Rover, your IQ is increased by at least 33.3% recurring, and if you own a Jap 4x4, your IQ is decreased by at least 42.345% https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .

Maybe having the same effect on driving skills as it does with the grey matter :oops: .

You could always buy him a genuine Land Rover badge and glue it onto the Hilux. That should increase it's offroad ability by about 25%....maybe even 50% if you remove all the Toyota badges off it aswell :roll: .


Just jokes https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ .

Not ever owning a V8, I would imagine the extra grunt of V8 would help in certain situations, over the 2.8L Hilux. Maybe the Hilux needs a diesel engine that has the ability to keep up with a TD5 from the start.

Then again, when it comes to Land Rover, I am as one eyed as they come :twisted: .

[dungarover]

Originally posted by tombraider
Love this topic.... Always brings a smile to my face!!!

Blow money out your vehicles exhaust :wink:

I'll save on fuel and then **** my extra cash on a tree at the campsite 8)

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Mike

I do both anyway. Plus I'm single so I have money to do so https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Trav

[Lucy]

Filled up both my cars on Sunday (pain in the arse both running out at same time)

Disco Td5 (2002) 525km, filled up 75.27L @ $1.359/L = $102.29

Disco V8i (1994) 517km filled up 91.83L @ $1.185/L = $108.83
(thank god for the long range tank)

The V8 is costing me less to run these days compared to the diesel, and it is soo much fun! I did most of the driving in both this month, and drove them fairly similarly. Not convinced I'll buy another diesel car, the extra expense of diesel fuel no longer justifies the fuel economy.

I must point out, I can get better economy from the diesel on long trips, whereas thats about it for the V8.

[noddy]

I love V8s (have owned two), but just cannot see the rationale anymore.

My TD5 puts out more power and torque than the Rover V8, drinks less, and sounds just as good with the 3" straight-thru exhaust. Why do I want to own a V8?

The range issue with a V8 is a big factor and even worse if running LPG.

At the moment, the cost advantage of running a diesel over a V8 is marginal unless doing big Kms.

The only ?? with the highly-strung diesel is longevity, but only time will tell on that one :wink:

[jase]

Re V8 power vs diesel power, (it actually should be torque your talking)
Both in standard trim The HS2.8TGV (high performance 300 Tdi) (yes I know it’s the same engine I import so free plug for me) has almost exactly the same torque as a 4.6 ltr RR V8
Only the diesels max torque is from 1400rpm 8) nd the V8s something like 4000rpm so the diesel will climb its way 10 time farther through mud ect than the V8 cause as soon as your V8 RPMs drop there goes your torque

Also seen as how you mentioned Jap diesels (toymota) the Jap engines are what give diesels bad names (noisy and underpowered/cc) and yes I have experience with them I have got (for work) a 1 yr old Nissan Navara STR (biggest piece of crap ever)
3ltr turbo diesel wouldn’t pull the skin off a rice pudding way less power than a Td5 or HS2.8 and they are both smaller engines?
Also crap (petrol like) torque curve
(anyone want to buy a 1 yr old navara?)

Jase

[tombraider]

Originally posted by Lucy
Filled up both my cars on Sunday (pain in the arse both running out at same time)

Disco Td5 (2002) 525km, filled up 75.27L @ $1.359/L = $102.29

Disco V8i (1994) 517km filled up 91.83L @ $1.185/L = $108.83
(thank god for the long range tank)

The V8 is costing me less to run these days compared to the diesel, and it is soo much fun! I did most of the driving in both this month, and drove them fairly similarly. Not convinced I'll buy another diesel car, the extra expense of diesel fuel no longer justifies the fuel economy.

I must point out, I can get better economy from the diesel on long trips, whereas thats about it for the V8.

I must be missing something here.
75l ($102.00) = 525km
92l ($108.80) = 517km
Thats 17l less fuel to travel slightly further (8km)
Now 17l * $1.359 = $23.10 savings per tank over same distance.

I travel 40k yearly now so that would save me:
40000/525 = 76.2 tankfuls
76.2 (tanks) * $23.10 (savings per tank) = $1760.00 approx. in fuel

Add service intervals of 15k not 10k (filters kit is $90.00)...
Plus lower rego for TD5 over V8
Plus lower insurance over V8

I save in excess of $5000.00 per year. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/




Simply put though....

I had a D1 V8 which on my Fuel Card cost $11000.00 pa to operate (fuel only)

The Defender TD5 fuel card is approx. $6000.00 pa

You tell me which is better.


And I agree, 3" of turbo diesel growl sounds sweeter than the note of a small capacity V8 any day :wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Cheers
Mike[/i]

[Pedro_The_Swift]

I only do around 6000kays a year in the V8,
who cares how much petrol is?

can you hear the exhaust of a diesel over the rattle?


ohh new racing formula,
Diesel Super Cars!
listen to those engines purr https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/




remember folks,, this is all in fun :wink:

[Lucy]

Sorry Tombraider, but you missed my point. The price difference between diesel and petrol is now such that economy no longer matters. I travelled basically the same distance for the same money.

I havent noted any difference in insurance costs, and it seems to me that so far in 18mths of ownership, the V8 costs less for servicing etc.

And sorry, but your maths sucks. There wasn't a savings of $23.10, the distance was for all purposes the same, the price to travel that distance was the same, it was only the fuel usage that was different. And that is the point I am trying to make. <span style="color:red">Economy no longer matters </span>(and neither does range when you fit a long range tank - both my vehicles have a similar range).

[dungarover]

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift
remember folks,, this is all in fun :wink:

Agree, it's nothing to get uptight about :?

People buy a diesel for a reason, the rest buy V8's for another. We all have diffrent circumstances for why we have what we have and they work for each of us.

Still, the V8 will live on :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

Trav

[George130]

Must admit I love the TD5. I'm doing 45,000Km each year and its showing its economy. Long range tank with the diesel is also great. 1200Km between refills, and I could still go further.

[Lucy]

Originally posted by Lucy
And sorry, but your maths sucks.

Dear Tombraider and forum, I apologise, I sounded like a real prat, it didn't come out right.

What I am trying to say, is that there is more than one way to think of economy. There is L/100km, the Td5 wins this battle hands down. Then there is $/100km, and unfortunately the gap between petrol and diesel is closing, and rapidly.

I have to feel sorry for all those people who bought turbo diesel landcruisers and paid that $20000 premium expecting to have it even out in running costs and resale - NOT :twisted: But then who would of thought diesel would be $0.18 dearer per litre than petrol 8O (and the gap is rising https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )

[noddy]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>ohh new racing formula,
Diesel Super Cars!
listen to those engines purr Laughing Laughing[/b][/quote]

Hey Pedro, don't you start giggling too loudly.

Peugeot are working on a new LeMans racer which will be diesel powered. They reckon they can get some serious torque and neddies from their HDi engines. This combined with better fuel economy they believe will make them very competitive.

VW also had a lash at the Spa 24 hour a couple of years back with a Golf Diesel. From memory they did OK.

The biggest problem with a diesel powered formula would be the soot haze at the start https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[noddy]

Cannot find a picture of the Peugeot donk, but apparently Audi are also jumping on the diesel band-wagon. Have a look at this 8O

http://www.mulsannescorner.com/juhaAudiR10.html

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/03/6.jpg

https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/imported/2006/03/7.jpg

[DaveG]

Would you guys be interested in seeing a Rover V8 that has been converted to run on diesel? I'm not sure how to upload pics.

Cheers,
Dave

[DEFENDERZOOK]

<span style="color:blue">it wouldnt be that hard to do.....
raise the compression and change the fuel basically.......



oh..and disconnect the ignition coil.......</span>

[HSVRangie]

send here

michael@amsfab.com.au


Michael.

[tombraider]

Originally posted by DaveG
Would you guys be interested in seeing a Rover V8 that has been converted to run on diesel? I'm not sure how to upload pics.

Cheers,
Dave

Dave is that the one with the "exo cage" to brace the block?
I think its the same one I read about one day.

Cheers
Mike

[DaveG]

I've just emailed a pic to Michael to post. I've been doing a little bit of work for this company for a couple of years.

In short it's a new diesel fuel injection system mainly aimed at reducing exhaust emissions in heavy vehicles while at the same time improving power and reducing fuel consumption.

They've also converted some petrol V8s to diesel including a Rangie and 454 Chev.

As you'll see from the pic, the injection system is quite different and each individual injector has its own fuel pump. Injection pressure is massive, around 160,000 psi.

More info is available at www.greendieselcorp.com . I don't get too involved in the tech stuff, as it's a little over my head.

None the less on paper it's an interesting system with a lot of potential.

Cheers,
Dave

[DRanged]

I agree this topic does get people going so here is my 2cents worth.

I run an 85 Rangie with a 4BD1T Isuzu 3.9 diesel. It sits on 100-120km with no effort it runs 33" tyres and the highest high range gearing you can put in an LT230. Fuel economy is about 10L - 13L per 100km.

Now offroad, to those who said jap diesels are no good the Isuzu is all gear driven no timing belt to break no computer to dictate terms to you. Overall build quality and strenght compared to a TD5 well the army uses Isuzu!!!!!!!!!

One more point when you are hours from home offroad on a track that has alot of water and mud all you have to worry about is the engine is getting air and fuel nothing else matters.

Compared to the old V8. The V8 had no way of climbing rock shelves or crawling through wombat holes (Willoglen Challenge) at 500-750rpm V8,s are fine but for serious off road work some diesels are just more reliable

[HSVRangie]

Originally posted by DaveG
I've just emailed a pic to Michael to post. I've been doing a little bit of work for this company for a couple of years.

In short it's a new diesel fuel injection system mainly aimed at reducing exhaust emissions in heavy vehicles while at the same time improving power and reducing fuel consumption.



As you'll see from the pic, the injection system is quite different and each individual injector has its own fuel pump. Injection pressure is massive, around 160,000 psi.


None the less on paper it's an interesting system with a lot of potential.

Cheers,
Dave

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v607/HSVRangie/GreenDieselRoverV8.jpg

Regards
Michael.

[disco_ute]

what does it cost?

[DaveG]

Product is not available yet and is unlikely to be available off the shelf for some time.

The company's main focus at present is on selling licenses on world markets for use in heavy vehicles, as the technology allows diesel engines to meets EPA 2010 now.

The US defence department is showing interest in the technology, but it has been a long slow process, particularly getting any sort of worthwhile Government help locally.

[DRanged]

In one of my magazines somewhere Rover played with this idea as well back in the 80,s the main problem was the total cost to redesign the block and heads to handle the increased compresion ratio and forces created by the diesel, from memory it was to be naturally aspirated there was no talk of turbcharging etc. Also I think the swept volume of the motor was similar to the V8 as well.

Would of made a good alternative if they could get it to perform??

[igould]

Originally posted by Noddy
apparently Audi are also jumping on the diesel band-wagon.

Audi just won the Sebring 12hr race in the USA with the diesel pictured in Noddy's post.
It's the warm-up race for Le Mans 24hr.

As for me, I love my v8, and have been generally disappointed with the running costs of our Td5.

Ian

[Omaroo]

In regards to consumption, I've just managed to remember to get my figures for the first time this tankful. Worked out at 10.08 L/100km - and that's from a Td5 Defender 110 with a bloody great rooftop tent and ARB half-rack behind it.

Not bad. In my Nissans, I was improving my consumption by around 2L/100km without the rooftop tent on, so although that doesn't directly translate to the Defender, I'd expect 9.5L/100km to be realistic.

I like those figures indeed!

[ak]

Love this debate also. You guys with the V8's that live in the cities, would like to know how many klm's you get out of a tank? ( average city driving )

[Bytemrk]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Love this debate also. You guys with the V8's that live in the cities, would like to know how many klm's you get out of a tank? ( average city driving )[/b][/quote]

To give you a rough idea AK - around Melbourne if all my driving is city ( I live close to work so all runs are probably under 15Km)

450Km from around 85Ltr Fuel :oops: that's a 4.0 Disco II. ( I do have a bit of a lead foot..)- that's 19Ltr/100k... worst Ive got around town was 21ltr/100k

On the open road I've regularly had it down around 16 Ltr/100k - best I've ever got was 14.4Ltr/100k.


Off road pulling a camper trailer I usually get around 20Ltr/100K.

So if you are only focusing on Fuel - there is no arguement Diesel is the way to go.
I like my V8 and currently will not change - BUT next one I buy could be a diesel - the extra range for outback touring would be nice..

I am not a big V8 versus TD5 guy... they are both good wach having strong points.. and weak ones.... so if you like what you see - can afford to run it... Just do it!...

[igould]

My v8 generally gets around 300-320km out of 70litres of LPG (21.5-23l/100km) city running. I rarely run it on on petrol as I only have the small sub-tank and I can see the needle move as I drive.
I recently took a 2100km trip to SA and averaged 18.1l/100km.

The last trip to SA in our Td5 Disco we got 9.6l/100km, around 900km per tank.
But around town we are lucky to get 750km per tank.

Ian

[cewilson]

Just think - it won't be too long until this debate becomes a TDV6 vs V8 debate! https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[dobbo]

costs me around $130.00 to fill my td5 disco auto and get around 800km range a lot less for towing and low range. I have a very heavy foot

[Ace]

I dont own a TD5 but do own a Tdi disco and i dont think i would do anything differently if i had my time over and was looking for a disco now. I would still go the diesel, even with the higher cost of diesel i still think i am in front. I am not going into the debate of what is better they obviously have thier pros and cons, but i do have to say those pros and cons are pretty much eliminated with the TD5, they are a top engine, even more so when chipped, pulling up hills at the legal speed limit isnt a problem, getting away from the lights might be different but i didnt buy a 4wd to drag people off at the lights. Matt

[Slunnie]

nice figures tombraider,,
now tell me how much you spent,,
I'll spend the same and we'll meet on the strip.
:wink: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
In my case $800 for the ECU an $850 for the intercooler - yep, thats it. :D

How much power does that much money get a V8? :p

[Slunnie]

Oh wow - this thread is a lot longer than I thought. :eek:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

The biggest problem with a diesel powered formula would be the soot haze at the start

ahhh,, anybody else old enough to remember Truck Racing,,

soot haze??

OMG!!!:lol::lol:

[Pedro_The_Swift]

In my case $800 for the ECU an $850 for the intercooler - yep, thats it. :D

How much power does that much money get a V8? :p

2 ecu's?:lol:

[DeeJay]

My v8 generally gets around 300-320km out of 70litres of LPG (21.5-23l/100km) city running. I rarely run it on on petrol as I only have the small sub-tank and I can see the needle move as I drive.
I recently took a 2100km trip to SA and averaged 18.1l/100km.

The last trip to SA in our Td5 Disco we got 9.6l/100km, around 900km per tank.
But around town we are lucky to get 750km per tank.

Ian

OK - I translated this into $$$ LPG is 46.9 and Diesel $1.39 at my local servo according to the RACV Fuelwatch (too lazy to look)
LPG = $8.30 PER 100 klm
Diesel = $13.43 per 100 klm
I said on another thread that I still have to find a reason to update my County. I will continue to renovate as I go..:D