D3 guy tried his luck! [Archive] - Australian Land Rover Owners

charliebrisbane

27th March 2006, 11:26 PM

I have an 01 4.6 Rangie and a guy in his new lookin D3 4.0 s was taking the same way home from work late last week in western Brisbane. We must have been like minded because I thought to myself I wonder how the acceleration is in one of those with the extra gears. So we eventually came to the roundabout at the start of the Western freeway and both planted it. He was in the inside lane so came out the better off the round about and I had to pull in behind him as there was only one lane onto the freeway. (they seem to handle pretty well anyway around corners and we weren't being too foolish). He kept his foot down as I did accelerating up to 100 and seemed pretty equal. That was about the end of it and the vehicles seemed pretty even while accelerating. It was a bit of fun but wouldn't push it too far past the 90 kph limit as it would be too dangerous. I would like a rematch on a straight standing start up to 100 that would be interesting.

Looks like I'll have to leave the 4.4ltr ones alone I dont think I'd keep up. :cry: Oh well.

Charlie

PS. I know the road isnt a race track but we didn't make any sharp cornering and the road was clear ahead and the cars in the other lane were doing 100 already so no harm done. These cars aren't sports cars anyway I think we both realised this and took it pretty easy.

p38arover

27th March 2006, 11:32 PM

Last December, I had a trip in a red RR Mk III diesel owned by a bloke up on the Gold Coast ( GCLRO member?). Boy, does that thing get along quite nicely - a few cars tried to out-accelerate this beast and were soon put in their place. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Ron

charliebrisbane

27th March 2006, 11:42 PM

Well Ron sounds like the p38's are old technology now. Still don't want to be out done by an oiler now thats embarasing.

Charlie

drivesafe

28th March 2006, 05:04 AM

Hi Charlie and Ron. Charlie, before you pair got to the roundabout, had you both been giving it a bit of stick. The reason I ask, the D3s have a self determining fuel usage set up where the accelerators use is continually monitored and if the D3 is being driven economically then the D3 accelerates economically. Even if the peddle is suddenly floored, the vehicle still continues to accelerate economically.

You need to be giving it some stick for a few minutes before the vehicle starts to accelerate accordingly.

I’ve noticed, with my wife’s D3, if I have been driving docilely and suddenly accelerate hard, the D3 gently starts off and then gets it’s wind.

If on the other hand, I have been giving the D3 a bit of stick and I suddenly hit accelerator, the acceleration rate nearly snaps your head off.

My point being, next time you come up against a D3 and you want to see how it goes, you have to get it going first.

Cheers.

PS that was my RR Ron was on about.

Ace

28th March 2006, 08:24 AM

How many KW's do the 4L 6 D3's punch out? Matt

drivesafe

28th March 2006, 09:45 AM

Hi Ace, the D3 is averaging about 14 lt / 100 kms around town so far and that depends on whether I’m driving or the wife is.

It hasn’t done 10k yet, so it’s nowhere near run in yet.

Cheers.

noddy

28th March 2006, 09:50 AM

Originally posted by Ace
How many KW's do the 4L 6 D3's punch out? Matt

4.0ltr V6 = 360Nm & 160Kw
4.6ltr V8 = 380Nm & 150Kw

I would have thought the weight difference would have come into play more, but that 6speed ZF must also make the D3 hussle.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>self determining fuel usage set up where the accelerators use is continually monitored and if the D3 is being driven economically then the D3 accelerates economically. Even if the peddle is suddenly floored, the vehicle still continues to accelerate economically.[/b][/quote]

drivesafe -- this is what I don't like about some modern cars, they think they are "smarter than the average bear".

What happens if you have been sitting behind some slow traffic for sometime and then an opening appears? The D3 says, uh-uh you ain't going anywhere. No over-ride I imagine?

drivesafe

28th March 2006, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Noddy+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Noddy)</div><div class='quotemain'>
Originally posted by Ace@
How many KW's do the 4L 6 D3's punch out? Matt

4.0ltr V6 = 360Nm & 160Kw
4.6ltr V8 = 380Nm & 150Kw[/b]

Hi Nobby, thanks for the correction.

<!--QuoteBegin-Noddy
drivesafe -- this is what I don't like about some modern cars, they think they are "smarter than the average bear".

What happens if you have been sitting behind some slow traffic for sometime and then an opening appears? The D3 says, uh-uh you ain't going anywhere. No over-ride I imagine?[/quote]

This is something I have yet to discover but yes it could be interesting.

The RR does the same but the change in response times when there is a change in driving patens is much, much faster.

Captain_Rightfoot

28th March 2006, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by drivesafe
Hi Ace, the D3 is averaging about 14 lt / 100 kms around town so far and that depends on whether I’m driving or the wife is.

It hasn’t done 10k yet, so it’s nowhere near run in yet.

Cheers.
So the real question is, who get's better ecconomy? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ In our case it's actually me... even in the MINI 8O

Just a question on the adaptive driving modes, does the D3 have a "kickdown mode" where at 100% throttle it does all it can?

gghaggis

28th March 2006, 10:59 AM

Doesn't switching to 'sport' mode force a re-map - at least of the gearbox?

Cheers,

Gordon

stevo68

28th March 2006, 12:55 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>4.6ltr V8 = 380Nm & 150Kw
[/b][/quote]

Had to make a mention on this one :wink: Assuming we are talking the D3 V8, it is 220kw and 425Nm and is a 4.4. Obviously Drivesafe knows more about me on the fuel side of things, so thanks I wasnt aware of that component, though I have noticed it. If Im up for a bit of a "burl" i kick it over into the sequential thingy ( pick the non technical person :wink: ) and immediately it is ready for action, so I use it at the lights to woop someone or for overtaking especially if going up a hill. I have just dropped it in today for its 12000 k service ( ive only had it 3 mths 8O ) and fuel usage is averaging around 15.3/100km which for a V8 I think is pretty good. Since its been in for service Ive got the TDV6, I think S model, ie not all the bells and whistles that the HSE has got and I tell ya its a nice car, not the grunt of the V8 but perky, in hindsight Id almost have got the HSE TdV6.

Also charliebrisbane, if you ever want to go head to head, give us a hoy 8) ,

Regards

Stevo

noddy

28th March 2006, 01:07 PM

Howdy Stevo

I think Charliebrisbane has a P38 Rangie (2001), so has the last of the Buick/Rover V8 (not the BMW or Jag) engine from the late 1950/60s.

He was playing with a 4.0ltr V6 D3 (the old Ford Cologne engine from the '60s).

Sounds like a vintage car rally really:lol: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

charliebrisbane

28th March 2006, 01:16 PM

The 01 4.6 put out 160 kw and 400NM as it has the slightly tweaked thingumies, I dont know what exactly.

charliebrisbane

28th March 2006, 01:18 PM

Hey Kimba considering all the new technology around the 4.6 is starting to look a bit old hat, but a vintage car rally thats really below the belt!!!!

Charlie

stevo68

28th March 2006, 01:20 PM

Hey Noddy,

I just realised that re reading it that you were referring to the p38, I misread and thought you were talking about the D3 V8 and its specifications. When its at full wail you can feel the 220kw https://www.aulro.com/afvb/.

Regards

Stevo

charliebrisbane

28th March 2006, 01:22 PM

Stevo I think I'll have to get a supercharger before I go head to head with you the D3 V8 has just a bit too much go for the RR2. Besides I dont want to be beaten by a lowly discovery anyway. HEHE!

Charlie

stevo68

28th March 2006, 01:27 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Besides I dont want to be beaten by a lowly discovery anyway. HEHE!
[/b][/quote] Dems fightin words :wink: Ill be sure to keep an eye out for you on my trips up to Brissie, then all you will see is a flash of a black beastie, a growl of a thumping V8, and a wave of a hand out the top of the sunroof. Then we will see what its like to be beaten by a ..ummmm,....aarrrrr,,, I cant say it "lowly" discovery. Hey boys did ya hear that 8)

Regards

Stevo

noddy

28th March 2006, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by charliebrisbane
Hey Kimba considering all the new technology around the 4.6 is starting to look a bit old hat, but a vintage car rally thats really below the belt!!!!

Charlie

I like the old stuff, don't get me wrong! Agree, it was a bit cheeky though https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Those two engines are probably two of the most successful engines of the last 50 years. Both Rover/BMC/LR/MG and Ford have done very well out of those engines.

drivesafe

28th March 2006, 02:08 PM

Stevo, you and I have got to have a run.

I’ve had a few runs against the wife's D3 and the RR has won every time but I would be interested in seeing how the RR goes against the D3 V8.

I gave Outlaw and Camo a run last year after one of our meetings and I was surprised at how much faster both off the mark and get flight, the RR is.

The RR is flash fast to about 60 kph and then you might as well take a packed lunch with you while it winds out to 100.

The wife's D3 seems to accelerate evenly all the way to 100.

Cheers

drivesafe

28th March 2006, 02:15 PM

BTW, I don’t use sports mode in either vehicle, cause I’m too lazy to move the stick. 8)

Only time I take either Landy out of full auto is in hill decent, to assist in braking.

Cheers

stevo68

28th March 2006, 02:18 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Stevo, you and I have got to have a run.
[/b][/quote] Your on mate https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ always up to handing out a whoopin :wink: . I find the beasty is reasonable off the mark, but once it kicks into 3 through to 6 it really takes off. Will have some practice this arvo. Oh hang a tick Im driving the TDv6 upto brissie this arvo as my car is still in at servicing. Hmmm maybe later this arvo will get some practice in. I saw you on the list for Fraser the other day, are you coming. If so can have a burl then https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ ,

Regards

Stevo

drivesafe

28th March 2006, 02:29 PM

Unfortunately I don’t think we will be going to Fraser.

It was a short notice idea for us in the first place and I just can’t get things sorted out in time.

I’ll know for sure by tomorrow but it’s not looking good.

Cheers.

disco95

28th March 2006, 05:52 PM

Originally posted by charliebrisbane
Stevo I think I'll have to get a supercharger before I go head to head with you the D3 V8 has just a bit too much go for the RR2. Besides I dont want to be beaten by a lowly discovery anyway. HEHE!

Charlie

The guys at land Vehicle spares have a race Defender with a super charged 4.6 in it. From memory they said it pumps out around 500 horse power. Don't know what that converts to in Kw.
That was with only a small amount of boost and a little work on the heads. They were looking to up the boost and do more to the engine. At least that was the plan about 12 months ago.

charliebrisbane

28th March 2006, 06:58 PM

If any of you guys come to the Maroon Dam SEQ gathering if it happens I'll take you on there. Disco95 500 HP is probably around the mid 300's in KW that sounds like a pretty moddes 4.6. I want one. Mind you it would probably mean replacing the entire drivetrain to cope with that kind of grunt. Then if I did that I wouldn't have to worry about these Range Rover wannabe's in their D3's. (I think I'm in trouble now).

Charlie

stevo68

28th March 2006, 09:36 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Then if I did that I wouldn't have to worry about these Range Rover wannabe's in their D3's. (I think I'm in trouble now). [/b][/quote] Mate good likelihood I will be going to the Maroon Dam gathering and Ill be sure to bring a box of Kleenex tissues so you can weep after the black beasty takes the P38 to task https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Had some practice runs this arvo, and major cans of whoopaz was handed out so we ( me and the D3) are ready for battle. oh hang a tick, "yes honey, uhuh, I know its not like real racing? I am sensible, I know Im not in my 20's anymore, yep yep, yeah but he started it :wink: "

Regards

Stevo

stevo68

28th March 2006, 09:38 PM

charliebrisbane

29th March 2006, 01:31 PM

Oh ***** Stevo looks like I'll have to get the supercharger within the next month then(not likely i'll ever get one due to cost and the V8 having enough go as it is), but I think the p38 with a superior driver can handle a little 4.4 Disco queen. :wink:

Charlie

stevo68

29th March 2006, 02:03 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I think the p38 with a superior driver can handle a little 4.4 Disco queen[/b][/quote] I could cope with the RR wannabe slur, but Disco QUEEN, not that be a different kettle of fish all together :evil: Ive just put out an APB on your car for all fellow Disco "queen" drivers, irrespective of model, engine size etc and then we will see who is the "queen" :wink: And as for superior driver, I used to race BMX's so we will see who is the superior driver my friend 8O ,

Regards

Stevo

LoadedDisco

29th March 2006, 03:18 PM

Stevo,
We should give your D3 and My D2 a run together and see the difference I would be interested how much I pull away from you. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

drivesafe

29th March 2006, 03:30 PM

I can just see the headlines in the papers, the day after you lot meet.

<span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:green">Geriatric hoons running illegal drag races</span></span>

stevo68

29th March 2006, 03:33 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>We should give your D3 and My D2 a run together and see the difference I would be interested how much I pull away from you.[/b][/quote] Aside from the point that I would leave you in my dust matey :wink: , I thought I would have some support against this fella, ya know, fellow Disco drivers, GCLRO members, same burbs, but nooooooo, you wanna take me on too :wink:. Well fine, bring it on, at least Ill get to give ya some before this charliebrisbane chap. After I have soundly beaten you, we can go up the Wallaby and you can buy the first round 8) .

Regards

Stevo

LoadedDisco

29th March 2006, 03:50 PM

LMAO Stevo sounds good. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

stevo68

29th March 2006, 04:02 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>LMAO[/b][/quote] Maybe now you are, but afterwards you will be :cry: in ya beer :wink:

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>I can just see the headlines in the papers, the day after you lot meet.
Geriatric hoons running illegal drag races[/b][/quote] Sharlea has already pointed out that I am too old to be having drags 8) , but hey, she aint the boss 8O in trouble now,

Regards

Stevo

LoadedDisco

29th March 2006, 04:08 PM

Its ok Stevo 4x4 don’t drag race they just compete.
We don’t even have to break a speed limit to find out that my D2 will accelerate quicker and return a free beer. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

stevo68

29th March 2006, 04:19 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>We don’t even have to break a speed limit to find out that my D2 will accelerate quicker and return a free beer.[/b][/quote] LOL, I want to take off the gloves ,but ummmm you know where I live :wink: The problem is that your a mate, and I hate having to break peoples delusions of grandeur, but ya know sometimes ya just have to do it https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ So mate hold onto that thought that your D2 and a lovely beasty it is, will not accelerate faster than my 220kw, 425Nm of V8 roaring maniacal power 8) . And to make sure I am going to drag off every D2 I see until we face off, umm just to make sure. If that means giving some of em the bird ( of course not my fellow GCLRO members) then so be it to get them to try and chase me https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ ,

Regards

Stevo

LoadedDisco

29th March 2006, 04:33 PM

LOL https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Your Killing me.

Will catch up soon.

charliebrisbane

31st March 2006, 01:52 PM

"I used to race BMX's so we will see who is the superior driver my friend"

Hope you bring the BMX you will need it to ride home on after blowing a gasket trying to keep up! :wink:

BTW how do yo do the quote thingy with it highlighted?

LoadedDisco

1st April 2006, 07:06 AM

Originally posted by charliebrisbane
"I used to race BMX's so we will see who is the superior driver my friend"

Hope you bring the BMX you will need it to ride home on after blowing a gasket trying to keep up! :wink:

BTW how do yo do the quote thingy with it highlighted?

You will see on all post on the top right hand corner the quote cloud. Just click on it and it will open a post window as usual with the other persons post already typed in. Just hit enter a few times to drop down a few lines from the original post and start typing.
Edit works the same if you want to add more information to an old post just find it and click edit and away you go.
Hope this makes sense. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

norto

1st April 2006, 03:32 PM

g/day
does any body know if there is a snorkle out for the D3 yet

stevo68

3rd April 2006, 11:51 AM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Hope you bring the BMX you will need it to ride home on after blowing a gasket trying to keep up[/b][/quote] Lets just say I know who would win :wink: . There was a comparo on the weekend on Fraser between a P38, a certain D3 and a D2/D1, all V8's and lets just say the D3 whooped some azz https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ ,

Regards

Stevo

NOZ

3rd April 2006, 12:27 PM

Drag racing, now we are talking. Well I have a 454ci HQ that runs 10.54 @ 125mph, so can I play to ? :wink:

stevo68

3rd April 2006, 12:34 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Drag racing, now we are talking. Well I have a 454ci HQ that runs 10.54 @ 125mph, so can I play to ?[/b][/quote] For sure if it goes on sand :wink:

Regards

Stevo

NOZ

3rd April 2006, 12:36 PM

With 30 x 10.5 x 15 slicks it will go on water aswell as sand https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

NOZ

3rd April 2006, 12:40 PM

Hey just a thought if you are going to Rover park they have a drag track their, Well I have not seen it but it is on their map.

That would settle all bets :wink: .

OH I was babbling on about my HQ, I sold it about 6 years ago when the children were born.

Memory's about speed are all I have now (300 tdi remember) :roll:

stevo68

3rd April 2006, 12:43 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Hey just a thought if you are going to Rover park they have a drag track their, Well I have not seen it but it is on their map.
[/b][/quote] Still working on that one, if I was to take my partner and youngest we are going to have to get roof racks as wouldnt fit all gear in plus them. With Fraser I could as it was just me and 2 oldest children. Will make decision soon, though would be fun to whoop some more especially that charliebrisbane fella :wink: ,

Regards

Stevo

NOZ

3rd April 2006, 12:49 PM

Hire , borrow or buy a trailer maybe. I know its hard to fit all the extra's in the back of a Disco. With my 4 children we have to take the camper everywhere if we are have a stay away.

Anyway hope you can make it Stevo, its a great place for children and the tracks are great too.

NOZ

3rd April 2006, 01:14 PM

I will wager a Corona on Stevos D3

stevo68

3rd April 2006, 01:22 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Hire , borrow or buy a trailer maybe[/b][/quote] Good idea mate, didnt think of that, will look into it. If ya going to wager a brew on me, make it a boags so I can join in the victory drink https://www.aulro.com/afvb/,

Regards

Stevo