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shack
17th August 2018, 10:48 AM
I initially posted this in general chat, but no one has replied, and as I will be towing with a defender, thought I'd try here...

We are currently looking at buying a trailer from TMR trailers and as we are a couple thousand km away from them, was wondering if anyone here has one, or even knows of the business?

Cheers James

slug_burner
17th August 2018, 09:54 PM
I haven’t purchased a trailer in over 20 years. My next trailer I will make myself. Anything using something other than override brakes gets a bit pricey and I want something tailored to my needs and I have a few bits I want to use.

Hope you get some responses soon.

weeds
18th August 2018, 09:56 AM
TMR Trailers comes up as locates in Brisbane....and no website or is there another location with a website?

It looks like you’re in South Aus.....I’m guessing you could get a trailer closer.

What are your requirements/spec for the trailer?

shack
18th August 2018, 12:51 PM
TMR Trailers comes up as locates in Brisbane....and no website or is there another location with a website?

It looks like you’re in South Aus.....I’m guessing you could get a trailer closer.

What are your requirements/spec for the trailer?Yeah they are in Brisbane, and I'm in S.A, my brother found them and got a quote just out of interest, it was really competitive....
We are after a fully legal (obviously) 3.5 tonne flatdeck 7x14 , down around here probably looking at $14k, plus stock crate, which I think is a lot, however I also know the expense of the elec brake axles and labor and steel etc.... Have tossed up building ourselves but pretty busy atm, so just looking around

Tote
18th August 2018, 03:36 PM
I had interesting experience getting a 10 x 6 box trailer built by a small "business" on the central coast. It ended up being reasonably priced for what I got but it did prove that good welders don't necessarily make good businessmen.

It ended up being registered with a 3.5 tonne GVM but the bloke making it didn't realise that it needed 4 wheel brakes so I got those for free, I'm not sure he made much money from it and I suspect He folded shortly after I dragged him to the consumer affairs tribunal to get either my trailer or the deposit back.

There seems to be a heap of cheap trailers around rated at 2 tonne with override brakes, as soon as you want to go over that they seem to get inordinately expensive given that the difference is really only electric hubs and a battery box.

Have a good shop around before you buy, there were a couple of mobs in Sydney that seemed to do enough volume to be reasonably priced and weren't scared by the extra capacity requirement.

Regards,
Tote

shack
18th August 2018, 04:35 PM
I had interesting experience getting a 10 x 6 box trailer built by a small "business" on the central coast. It ended up being reasonably priced for what I got but it did prove that good welders don't necessarily make good businessmen.

It ended up being registered with a 3.5 tonne GVM but the bloke making it didn't realise that it needed 4 wheel brakes so I got those for free, I'm not sure he made much money from it and I suspect He folded shortly after I dragged him to the consumer affairs tribunal to get either my trailer or the deposit back.

There seems to be a heap of cheap trailers around rated at 2 tonne with override brakes, as soon as you want to go over that they seem to get inordinately expensive given that the difference is really only electric hubs and a battery box.

Have a good shop around before you buy, there were a couple of mobs in Sydney that seemed to do enough volume to be reasonably priced and weren't scared by the extra capacity requirement.

Regards,
TotePm sent....

rar110
18th August 2018, 05:43 PM
Have you looked at the twin axle haul mark trailers being sold at the ADF auctions?

weeds
18th August 2018, 05:53 PM
Have you looked at the twin axle haul mark trailers being sold at the ADF auctions?

The haul mark would come no where the OP requirements.

rar110
18th August 2018, 08:17 PM
The haul mark would come no where the OP requirements.

Size wise yes only 7x4. But surely these could be re-engineered for load capacity.

donh54
19th August 2018, 06:27 AM
Size wise yes only 7x4. But surely these could be re-engineered for load capacity.

Load capacity is dependent on a lot of things. Not least of which are the suspension, axles, wheels, tyres. Over 2 tonnes needs breakaway system, 4 wheel braking, By the time you added all that to an existing trailer, you may as well build one from scratch that is better aligned with what you need it for.
A read of VSB1 (linked in an earlier thread) will give the necessary details.

dromader driver
19th August 2018, 07:39 AM
This what you are looking for?
http://www.maximtrailer.com.au/product/flat-tops/ (http://http://www.maximtrailer.com.au/product/flat-tops/)

pop058
19th August 2018, 08:37 AM
I had interesting experience getting a 10 x 6 box trailer built by a small "business" on the central coast. It ended up being reasonably priced for what I got but it did prove that good welders don't necessarily make good businessmen.

It ended up being registered with a 3.5 tonne GVM but the bloke making it didn't realise that it needed 4 wheel brakes so I got those for free, I'm not sure he made much money from it and I suspect He folded shortly after I dragged him to the consumer affairs tribunal to get either my trailer or the deposit back.

There seems to be a heap of cheap trailers around rated at 2 tonne with override brakes, as soon as you want to go over that they seem to get inordinately expensive given that the difference is really only electric hubs and a battery box.

Have a good shop around before you buy, there were a couple of mobs in Sydney that seemed to do enough volume to be reasonably priced and weren't scared by the extra capacity requirement.

Regards,
Tote

Bigger (electric) hubs, axles, springs, wheels, tyres, hitch, breakaway system, trailer frame. There is a bit in it.

p38arover
19th August 2018, 10:01 AM
I initially posted this in general chat,

Deleted that one. We don't permit duplicate threads. This question should have been in Trailers, Vans and Campers: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/trailers-vans-and-campers/

shack
19th August 2018, 04:17 PM
Deleted that one. We don't permit duplicate threads. This question should have been in Trailers, Vans and Campers: https://www.aulro.com/afvb/trailers-vans-and-campers/Thanks for that,I must say I've never realised there was a trailers vans and campers thread, I'll go searching now....

p38arover
19th August 2018, 07:43 PM
I can move this thread to there with a redirect.

shack
19th August 2018, 10:45 PM
I can move this thread to there with a redirect.Sounds good...

Rextheute
21st August 2018, 06:47 AM
Try Butko Engineering in Albury / Wodonga - built a long trailer for the company I work for .

or , Eagle Trailers in Adelaide .

Phideaux
23rd August 2018, 08:24 AM
I know nothing of ----
I bought a custom, braked, high-side, wider single-axle 1.5 tonne trailer from a mob called '----------, ACT.
I wish I hadn't!
Their initial price was cheaper, but I've spent twice that on 'repairs' since. Remedial work was done by me on the trailer on the day I took delivery. Things like 'screws through the metal, poking into the box'. Tie-down points were wrong/weak, etc.

The proprietor spun a good line of BS, comparing himself to 'Old Hank, of Village Trailers, Hall, ACT'. I've still got my original 1-tonne trailer built by Hank. Which had more of better welds, no weak spots, etc - I've used it above and beyond spec for years, which was why I bought this one.

Both of the metal-working shops I've taken the trailer to for repairs have simply laughed. "Had one of his in here yesterday..." You'd think they'd get better over time but apparently not.

Look at things like, 'how many welds, how long each seam weld, are the welds to structure or skin, are things like spare wheel, drop front, removable back, etc - actually well engineered? And rust-proofing, and adjustability for brakes.

I'm in for a major 'overturn the trailer' to get to the linkage point to get the brakes so that they can be tightened to 'actually work' on the cable.

As you can guess, all of the things in the above list were issues on my 'custom' trailer. I'd have done better off-the-shelf at a more expensive shop.

shack
23rd August 2018, 07:02 PM
I know nothing of----
I bought a custom, braked, high-side, wider single-axle 1.5 tonne trailer from a mob called '--------- ACT.
I wish I hadn't!
Their initial price was cheaper, but I've spent twice that on 'repairs' since. Remedial work was done by me on the trailer on the day I took delivery. Things like 'screws through the metal, poking into the box'. Tie-down points were wrong/weak, etc.

The proprietor spun a good line of BS, comparing himself to 'Old Hank, of Village Trailers, Hall, ACT'. I've still got my original 1-tonne trailer built by Hank. Which had more of better welds, no weak spots, etc - I've used it above and beyond spec for years, which was why I bought this one.

Both of the metal-working shops I've taken the trailer to for repairs have simply laughed. "Had one of his in here yesterday..." You'd think they'd get better over time but apparently not.

Look at things like, 'how many welds, how long each seam weld, are the welds to structure or skin, are things like spare wheel, drop front, removable back, etc - actually well engineered? And rust-proofing, and adjustability for brakes.

I'm in for a major 'overturn the trailer' to get to the linkage point to get the brakes so that they can be tightened to 'actually work' on the cable.

As you can guess, all of the things in the above list were issues on my 'custom' trailer. I'd have done better off-the-shelf at a more expensive shop.We had exactly the same problem with a custom ordered trailer from one of the biggest manufacturers in Adelaide, a 5x12 tandem, as my brother was picking it up, the sales guy said "oh, you might wanna change all the wheel bearings as soon as you get home, they'll be stuffed"

You might ask why we still took it, especially seeing as how they didn't even build it to the spec/design we had given them and they had quoted on,

The answer to this is
"I honestly don't know"
I ask myself every couple of weeks, it's one of those naval gazing moments every time

67hardtop
24th August 2018, 10:09 AM
You buy cheap....you get cheap!

shack
24th August 2018, 12:44 PM
You buy cheap....you get cheap!Yep, except it wasn't cheap of course, we paid extra for the mods we wanted , I'm not so nice now...