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Parso
18th September 2018, 09:53 AM
Hey guys.
I'm new to these forums so sorry if I am posting in the wrong place but I really need help.
My wife bought our first Land Rover yesterday as I couldn't get down to Sydney to pick it up - a 2005 Discovery 3 HSE with only 150,000kms on the clock.
She took it for a test drive with no issues - emergency brake working fine as will later be important.
3 hours from home after various stops - she pulled up and put on the emergency brake only to receive a 'Park brake fault, system not functional' error with a screech.
She turned off the car and left it while she went to get food and turning it back on had no errors so drove home.
Upon getting home though I could hear in screeching in and was greeted by a nice smell from the back right tire.
I took it to the mechanics this morning who found this:
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It looks like I'm up for a new disc, handbrake assembly and backing plate - and I haven't even owned it for 24 hours!
Thankfully the car is driving again and I wasn't charged anything for the look this morning - in the meantime I have strict instructions not to touch the ebrake.
Does anybody have any advice on where the best place to source these would be from?
Cheers,
Matt.

disco gazza
18th September 2018, 10:30 AM
Hi Matt,

Sorry to hear of your troubles.

Try Roverlord offroad spares, They are a member on this wonderful site.

There is also TRS in South Australia who might be able to help out.

There is also Karcraft in Silverwater 0297379944

Failing that your going to the dealer where they will charge mega $$$$$$.

Someone else might have a clue on where to pick up the parts for a reasonable price here in oz.

A helpful hint for you. If you need parts, you can buy them from England(eg island 4x4.co.uk, lrdirect.com) at a reasonable price and get them sent over,but if its urgent, then you will be paying more.
Hope you get it sorted.

rar110
18th September 2018, 10:39 AM
Statutory dealer warranty?

Graeme
18th September 2018, 11:30 AM
For future reference, familiarise yourself with the location of the park brake emergency release cable that releases the tension on the cables to the wheels. While there, locate the gear lever emergency release tab that allows the gearbox to be pulled out of park without battery power.

goingbush
18th September 2018, 11:49 AM
Dont know about NSW , but in Victoria thats not Roadworthy & the dealer you bought it from is obliged to fix it.

ytt105
18th September 2018, 11:54 AM
Try RDA in ebay. I just replaced front and rear on my D3 and think they are great. Quick delivery and includes wear indicators in the kit price.

Bohica
18th September 2018, 11:59 AM
Statutory dealer warranty?

Yes !!

Grumbles
18th September 2018, 07:26 PM
Yes !!

Isn't statutory dealer warranty only for cars that are under 10 years of age and with less than 100,000 kms on the clock.

Ean Austral
18th September 2018, 07:55 PM
Gday and Welcome to the forum.

Not a good start to L/R ownership , there dont look like any material left on those hand brake shoe's .

I am guessing this was a private seller and most likely not tested on the test drive.

You must have a good mechanic if he done all that's involved to get those shoe's off free of charge. Try Roverlord he did have the hand brake shoes a couple of months ago as I enquired after some. Would suggest you replace both rear disc's .

Hopefully your ownership improves after your troublesome first 24 hours .

cheers Ean

PerthDisco
18th September 2018, 08:39 PM
Welcome, if you are handy familiarise yourself with Bodsy’s Brake Bible from the Disco3 UK site for comprehensive knowledge on the Disco brakes and park brake adjustment technique.

discorevy
18th September 2018, 10:27 PM
Make sure you order a new spring kit with the new shoes, the springs get weak with age / heat cycles , then , when the shoes wear they can drag a bit causing the bonded linings to eventually let go. .
Also get your mechanic to disable the drive off function, or if he can't , then make sure in the future the brake is off before moving away.

justinc
18th September 2018, 10:31 PM
Warranty is unlikely to cover that kind of failure... its a bit of a fiddle to do but once you've done about 20 or so it gets easier😅😅😅

And try to support local parts suppliers in this country, too.

Jc

Pedro_The_Swift
19th September 2018, 06:21 AM
How would those shoes get so worn?
its just a handbrake right?

justinc
19th September 2018, 06:55 AM
How would those shoes get so worn?
its just a handbrake right?

They can stay applied for a variety of reasons Pete, the ease with which the vehicle will drive through a partially applied park brake is one of the problems. I have seen a few that have actually come close to combustion. The plastic outers on the park brake cables even melt and keep the cable pulled on, its a big snowballing disaster....

Disco-tastic
19th September 2018, 06:05 PM
G'day Parso.

Sorry to hear of your troubles. I've had EPB issues. I'd recommend you download Bodsys Brake Bible (should come up in a google search) and have a go at adjusting the park brake yourself. Its not hard, requires removing the wheel plus the use of a flathead screw driver (a torch is also handy), and can get you out of trouble if you have an issue in the future.

Beat of luck with it and I hope your experience gets better from here!

Cheers

Dan

Arapiles
19th September 2018, 09:28 PM
a 2005 Discovery 3 HSE with only 150,000kms on the clock.
,
Matt.

The title of the thread seems a little unfair ... this was a car with 150,000 km on it with a non-obvious fault. And you don't say, but did you get it checked over before purchase by someone familiar with D3s? The electronic park brake is, I'd presume, one of the things that a mechanic who was familiar with D3s would check.

And the responses have been very helpful, as is typically the case.

Celtoid
20th September 2018, 05:29 PM
The title of the thread seems a little unfair ... this was a car with 150,000 km on it with a non-obvious fault. And you don't say, but did you get it checked over before purchase by someone familiar with D3s? The electronic park brake is, I'd presume, one of the things that a mechanic who was familiar with D3s would check.

And the responses have been very helpful, as is typically the case.

I kinda agree mate …. I've bought quite a few second hand cars ….. and I might add houses …. that have had a litany of issues that pretty much come with the territory of second hand, even with best efforts to check.

I've also bought lots of new stuff that have issues …..

"so this is what Apple ownership or Yamaha sound system ownership is like?" …. I wouldn't start dialog that way.

Fortunately we're not a Toyo site :-)

Parso
21st September 2018, 12:17 PM
Thanks for the replies guys - I'll get on it as soon as cash allows!
It was a private sale and the brake was working perfectly on test drive according to my wife, by the time I got to the emergency release the damage was done!
Lesson learned and I recognised the risk of not been able to do the inspection personally going in.
I just got back from a camping trip at Lower Creek with the car and had a great time - there are no hard feelings despite our rocky start.
I'm coming across from a 1972 Super Beetle so things are a little different.
The title was a little tongue in cheek, sorry if it was taken too seriously, I just found it painfully humorous I didn't even last 24 hours before needing repairs :)

Geedublya
21st September 2018, 02:35 PM
Sometimes you need a sense of humour owning a Landrover. You did better than some who have had a crank failure on the first drive home.

Gullible
27th September 2018, 07:51 PM
Hot tip,
If it is an automatic, you do not need to use the emergency break. [wink11]

Disco-tastic
27th September 2018, 09:10 PM
Terrible tip,
If it is an automatic, you do not need to use the emergency break. [wink11]

Fixed it for you [emoji14]

If it clunks when changing out of Park then you're doing it wrong...