TDV6 replacement options in Perth

[CanadianRyan]

Hi All,
I'm in a bit of strife. Over the school holidays I was coming back from Exmouth after a great 2 weeks exploring the region and my 2007 MY08 D3 TDV6 SE died on the side of the road. I had it towed to a mechanic in Carnarvon who had no idea what was wrong, so then I had it towed all the way back home to Perth. It's sitting at a local garage with a diagnosis of a suspected snapped crank shaft. Fun fun. Thus I'm staring down the barrel of a new engine and a big bill. I'd like to keep the car if the economics (e.g. repair cost vs. replacement) make sense.

Can anyone help me with recommendations of a local garage capable of the job at a reasonable rate? Only one garage has seen it thus far (the one it's sitting at) who have quote $7k labour, plus either new engine ($15k) or used ($7-8K), plus fluids. I'm hoping for something a lot more reasonable otherwise I'll have to sell it as is. Thanks in advance,
Ryan

[WhiteD3]

How many K's on the D3?

[LRD414]

Can anyone help me with recommendations of a local garage capable of the job at a reasonable rate?
Definitely talk to: Aztech4x4 Land Rover & Jeep - Service, Repairs Perth (http://www.aztech4x4.com.au/)
The owner (Darren) is a member here.

Regards,
Scott

[CanadianRyan]

How many K's on the D3?

Only 156000km, and maintained very well...

[cripesamighty]

Talk to Dave Dover. He should be able to give you a realistic estimate of availability of alternative engines (TDV6 from Land Rover or Ford Territory) and costs involved.

[CanadianRyan]

Definitely talk to: Aztech4x4 Land Rover & Jeep - Service, Repairs Perth (http://www.aztech4x4.com.au/)
The owner (Darren) is a member here.

Regards,
Scott

I've been trying to contact him for the last few days but haven't been able... not sure if he's away.

[CanadianRyan]

Talk to Dave Dover. He should be able to give you a realistic estimate of availability of alternative engines (TDV6 from Land Rover or Ford Territory) and costs involved.

How do I contact him?

[PeterOZ]

mine went about 3 years ago at around 199,000km Had a low km territory donk fitted which cost $13.3k all up

Vehicle might only be worth around $10-15k mind you new vehcile could be around the $80k mark which buys a lot of repairs.

I have eleced to keep repairing my d3 probably for next 5 years and will see what it's condition is like then. I do under 10k km a year now.

[loanrangie]

Is it worth contacting LRA since its a known and common issue ?

[PerthDisco]

Sorry to hear as I have same model [emoji30] with more kms.

First goal is to find a good low km engine from a Ford Territory wreck. The rest is labour and procedure to swap parts between engines well defined on this forum.

Look on Gum tree, EBay etc. or do you know anyone in the trade?

Please add to the knowledge by keeping us informed, especially for us Perth folks.

[discomatt69]

compare the price of another engine with the price of another low km D3, not that much in it so if it was me I think I would be searching Australia wide for a replacement car and keeping the other one as a parts bin. 10 years worth of spare parts except brake pads

[BobD]

Also speak to Kevin at Rovertech if you haven't already. They have done several Territory motor swaps but whatever you do won't be cheap.

[CanadianRyan]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I've contacted Darren at Aztech 4x4 and he's going to do an engine swap for me. He has a low km 2.7l ready to go, and his rates are much better than elsewhere. I'm looking forward to getting the old girl (photos below) back on the road (and 4wd tracks!). Cheers
Ryan

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[eddy]

Pity we are not in South Korea.....Korea Jaguar Land Rover to recall over 16,000 trucks (https://steelguru.com/auto/korea-jaguar-land-rover-to-recall-over-16-000-trucks/523087) 16,000 faulty Jaguar, Land Rover models pulled in Korea - The Standard (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news.php?id=115105&sid=2) ......not really!

[loanrangie]

Yesterday I saw 2011 territory that is damaged for sale for $3500.

[kelvo]

Pity we are not in South Korea.....Korea Jaguar Land Rover to recall over 16,000 trucks (https://steelguru.com/auto/korea-jaguar-land-rover-to-recall-over-16-000-trucks/523087) 16,000 faulty Jaguar, Land Rover models pulled in Korea - The Standard (http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaking-news.php?id=115105&sid=2) ......not really!
I’ve just emailed ACCC with information on this, I wonder if they will be able to influence JLR Aus into also having a recall as well [bigwhistle]

[Russrobe]

People who have stripped and inspected several of these failures have noticed that the block has twisted at some stage.

Interested to see if any D5's have had crank failures.

[PerthDisco]

Minimum JLR could do is make a bottom end rebuild kit easily accessible!

[loanrangie]

Minimum JLR could do is make a bottom end rebuild kit easily accessible!

Plenty on UK ebay.

[kelvo]

I’ve had no response from JLR Aus yet, but have had a reply from the ACCC

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[PerthDisco]

I remember back in the 80s Caterpillar started offering the 3208TA with 355hp and they started doing head gaskets because that component wasn’t quite ready for the power increase.

This meant you got a hydraulic lock when you next went to start it. If you were lucky you didn’t bend a conrod.

In a boat you had two to worry about when the first one went.

Under pressure Cat provided the parts and you got stuck with the labour (or some share) out of warranty.

To keep in perspective how much power a modern common rail 2.7 TDV6 diesel is cranking out the 3208 Caterpillar was a 10.4 litre V8 weighing 760kg.

[eddy]

JLR Korea setting a precedent? RRSPORT.CO.UK • View topic - AJD-V6 Crankshaft Recall (http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic52231.html)

[PerthDisco]

JLR Korea setting a precedent? RRSPORT.CO.UK • View topic - AJD-V6 Crankshaft Recall (http://www.rrsport.co.uk/forum/topic52231.html)

Not great news if you own a 2016 but that’s literally the last production year of the engine.

[ATH]

Mines 2016 so I await the outcome of anything happening here. If it ever does mind. :(
AlanH.

[PerthDisco]

Mines 2016 so I await the outcome of anything happening here. If it ever does mind. :(
AlanH.

Am I correct in reading that the 2.7D suffers random cases of the crank bearing shells turning leading to oil starvation and engine failure.

The 3.0 appears to be crankshaft only failure? Be interesting to know if the higher power SD suffered this more.

The HP/litre ratio is very high as back in the day the 3208 Caterpillar was regarded as a revolutionary compact, lightweight, high revving, high performance diesel engine.

[Russrobe]

Am I correct in reading that the 2.7D suffers random cases of the crank bearing shells turning leading to oil starvation and engine failure.

The 3.0 appears to be crankshaft only failure? Be interesting to know if the higher power SD suffered this more.

The HP/litre ratio is very high as back in the day the 3208 Caterpillar was regarded as a revolutionary compact, lightweight, high revving, high performance diesel engine.

If the block is warping, that is the cause of the crank bearing shell spin which causes crank failure... Hopefully a strengthening modification becomes available.

Notably, if this is the case, you will still see 3.0L's failing on D5's.

[Modelsp]

Ryan
check your insurance policy
sometimes covered like if petrol get in tank “Accidentally “
worth a look.

Hi All,
I'm in a bit of strife. Over the school holidays I was coming back from Exmouth after a great 2 weeks exploring the region and my 2007 MY08 D3 TDV6 SE died on the side of the road. I had it towed to a mechanic in Carnarvon who had no idea what was wrong, so then I had it towed all the way back home to Perth. It's sitting at a local garage with a diagnosis of a suspected snapped crank shaft. Fun fun. Thus I'm staring down the barrel of a new engine and a big bill. I'd like to keep the car if the economics (e.g. repair cost vs. replacement) make sense.

Can anyone help me with recommendations of a local garage capable of the job at a reasonable rate? Only one garage has seen it thus far (the one it's sitting at) who have quote $7k labour, plus either new engine ($15k) or used ($7-8K), plus fluids. I'm hoping for something a lot more reasonable otherwise I'll have to sell it as is. Thanks in advance,
Ryan