When someone camps right beside you.......

[timax]

So what would you do?
This was a story told to me by my Toyo Troopy mate and his wife last night.
So they were at a beach camping at one end near the rocks about 6 or so km from the drive in onto the beach.
Only ones there and were getting ready for bed at about 9:30 at night.
So down the beach they notice some headlights and think nothing of it as the place is popular for fishing.
Next thing they know a single guy in a work ute parks right beside them. As in like can't open your door without hitting the car sort of right beside....and just sits there. So my mates wife being a fiery one has a few words and asks him to give them some space and move. He says he is doing nothing wrong and has no intention of moving. So this guy just sits there in the driver's seat and finally leaves in the middle of the night.
Visions of wolf creek were going through my mind while listening.
So what would you do? You have travelled a long way to get to this spot and have a bit of a camp setup so not so easy to just move.
Anyone else had similar?

[weeds]

That is a little weird......ie that close you cannot open doors.

[cripesamighty]

Maybe he was scared of the dark..... [bigwhistle]

Personally, I would have told him to rack off.

[123rover50]

If told to leave and he wont . Then what do you do?
Resort to violence or suck it up like they had to.
I probably would have moved as not a big deal but an elaborate camp makes it harder.
It pretty common though, we find it all the time in free camp areas.
Same cruising with the yacht around the pacific islands. Anchor up in a nice bay and some twit comes and anchors off right beside you when there is heaps of room. Drove us nuts.

[DAMINK]

My wife would arc up pretty much instantly.
And when she get angry yea i would put on my angry face too.
He would move on. If not likely a fight would occur.

Respect gets respect.
Disrespect gets disrespect.

[strangy]

Classical music pushes away a surprising number of people.
Clearly taking pics of the person, vehicle and plates often makes them uncomfortable too.

[Milton477]

Some wet wood in the choofer works wonders when reasonable requests are unsuccessful. A generator on display also helps.
Why do people do it? Herd instinct? Insecure? Friendly?

[DAMINK]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfnJJVf_EgE

First 5 seconds is all you need to watch.
Would work just as well.

[timax]

Classical music pushes away a surprising number of people.
Clearly taking pics of the person, vehicle and plates often makes them uncomfortable too.
Haha , yes she did that. Well not the music but she did take pictures and told him he was strange , like rapey pedo strange!
We have only had one strange person who was hiding behind some bushes watching as we went to bed but nothing like this guy.
I was thinking id start packing up to move and use my tyre valve tool to loosen his valves at the rear while moving around the car.
Then just hammer it off the beach and go to plan B. Problem for me doing that is i have a red defender. Not many of those around.

[rammypluge]

Is it possible he just had a bad experience and needed a feeling of security?

Many people are hardened and dont respond to diplomacy. If so you need to back it up.

Maybe if you find his behaviour threatening, amass your numbers, stand your ground, and say in a nice way; "I find your behaviour threatening", as you all look at him in the eyes. Reason with him and dont back down. He will get uncomfortable and decide its more fun to be elsewhere.

[DAMINK]

Haha , yes she did that. Well not the music but she did take pictures and told him he was strange , like rapey pedo strange!
We have only had one strange person who was hiding behind some bushes watching as we went to bed but nothing like this guy.
I was thinking id start packing up to move and use my tyre valve tool to loosen his valves at the rear while moving around the car.
Then just hammer it off the beach and go to plan B. Problem for me doing that is i have a red defender. Not many of those around.

Never provoke unless your willing to back that **** up mate.

Reminds me of a camping experience i had perhaps a year ago now.
In Boolarra on the river there. Get a spot about 250 metres from another spot a guy was already at. But a different spot. Different entrance and trees covering between.
When i was setting up he rode past on his 4 wheeler and looked like he was having words while riding past, i took little attention.
Few hrs later gun shots and bullets ringing past me, yep the ***** was shooting at me. He let go about 6 shots before he stopped.
Gotta admit i was alone that night and had no firearms myself so felt a bit out of my comfort zone so decided to pack up and leave.

I dont hate the guy for shooting in my direction. I just wish i had the chance to shoot back.

[4bee]

If told to leave and he wont . Then what do you do?
Resort to violence or suck it up like they had to.
I probably would have moved as not a big deal but an elaborate camp makes it harder.
It pretty common though, we find it all the time in free camp areas.
Same cruising with the yacht around the pacific islands. Anchor up in a nice bay and some twit comes and anchors off right beside you when there is heaps of room. Drove us nuts.


It's a Land Rover thing. No really.
Haven't you noticed when one Discovery, RaRo, Deafener et al parks in a Supermarket Car Park & when you come out there is usually a couple of other LR products parked close by. It's as if they get lonely or scared or have a touch of the heeby jeebees (ie. Enochlophobia or Agoraphobia) & need company. Not the driver, the vehicles.[smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye]

[p38arover]

I once was camped alongside a river and there was about 300 metres of trimmed grassed (by kangaroos) along the river. I was the only person there. A couple arrived, drove right down the site and then returned and set up camp next to me. I didn't say anything as I was leaving the next day.

In the end, it was good he did. His camping gear was brand new and the gas bottle had a different fitting to his new stove - one was Primus (RH thread I think) the other was the other popular small but LH thread - so I had to lend them my stove to cook their dinner.

[austastar]

Hi,
Go out and greet them ringing your little brass bells, saying (spooky voice helps here) that the spirits told you he would come, and invite him over to a séance later that evening.
Cheers

[4bee]

"Toying" with a carving knife ah la Psycho, may also deter them.[smilebigeye]

[p38arover]

I tried taking off all my clothes - and they did the same. 😀

[Bigbjorn]

Never provoke unless your willing to back that **** up mate.

Reminds me of a camping experience i had perhaps a year ago now.
In Boolarra on the river there. Get a spot about 250 metres from another spot a guy was already at. But a different spot. Different entrance and trees covering between.
When i was setting up he rode past on his 4 wheeler and looked like he was having words while riding past, i took little attention.
Few hrs later gun shots and bullets ringing past me, yep the ***** was shooting at me. He let go about 6 shots before he stopped.
Gotta admit i was alone that night and had no firearms myself so felt a bit out of my comfort zone so decided to pack up and leave.

I dont hate the guy for shooting in my direction. I just wish i had the chance to shoot back.

Back in the 1980's we were camped on one of the big holes on a Western Qld. River. Popular spot but no ranger or caretaker. One would put some money into a box on the gate post. Mostly older couples and family units. A large group arrived just on dusk. Ferals by the hair and tatts. They proceeded to loudly party and got louder and ruder. Sign at the gate asked for no noise after 10.00 pm. Still cranking up the noise well after 10.00. A couple of guys went and asked them to turn it down and were told to **** of as they had come there to party. A bit later towards midnight one fed-up camper went down and shut up the boom box with a 12 gauge. This shut down the party nicely.

[rick130]

I tried taking off all my clothes - and they did the same. [emoji3][emoji33][emoji23]

[Bigbjorn]

[emoji33][emoji23]

Barff, Barff.[bigsad]

[DiscoClax]

Cue duelling banjos... a-la Deliverance :)

[Roverlord off road spares]

Maybe it was PRA Parking rules apply. I bet it it was a landy you would be happy though. LOL

[loanrangie]

My wife would arc up pretty much instantly.
And when she get angry yea i would put on my angry face too.
He would move on. If not likely a fight would occur.

Respect gets respect.
Disrespect gets disrespect.

God help the poor bastard that gets on the wrong side of my boss i mean wife.

[DiscoMick]

Chuck some sugar on the ground. The ants will swarm and bite him.

[cripesamighty]

Mick, that is not very nice. You don’t mind if I use that idea do you...... [bigwhistle]

[edddo]

Years ago I and my gf were camped on the Dargo on a nice flat about 3 or 400 metres long IIRC. We were the only ones there. Just on dark one night a convoy of about 5 4wds comes in, drives to the far end of the flat and has a look and then comes back and startes setting up spitting distance from my car. I couldnt believe it - I went straight over to the nearest car and said to the bloke - not hiding my anger - "couldnt you park any ****ing closer" and just stood there. They duly moved down to an equally good spot about 100meteres away. Honestly I have no idea how people end up with no sense of personal space, bush courtesy or common sense. I have also had words when a camper set up a car width from me elsewhere..I asked him to move before he setup and he refuse...amazed and dumbfounded, I moved. I really dont get it that people go bush and sit on top of other people by choice....

[1950landy]

I don't camp but have the same problem in car parks park well away from other cars when i come back there is a car parked either side of me either rite on the line or across the line to make it hard to get into either side of my vehicle. Grrrrrrrr

[DiscoMick]

Mick, that is not very nice. You don’t mind if I use that idea do you...... [bigwhistle]Not at all. Councils use it to discourage troublemakers from staying in parks.

[DAMINK]

bush courtesy

You nailed it mate.

My rules when i camp.

First in first served.
Maintain a respectful distance.
Clean up every item you drop or see. Leave it better than you found it basically.
If there are others keep a low profile after 10-12pm unless you word them up.
Always say hello by hand gesture of going over to say hello.
Fires need to be under control all the time.
Never put glass or steel or anything stupid like that in fires.
Give any left over wood to other campers when you leave.

There is probably others i abide by but cant think of them at the moment.
Pretty much every camper around here anyway seems to have a similar thought process.

Bush courtesy.

[rangieman]

You nailed it mate.

My rules when i camp.

First in first served.
Maintain a respectful distance.
Clean up every item you drop or see. Leave it better than you found it basically.
If there are others keep a low profile after 10-12pm unless you word them up.
Always say hello by hand gesture of going over to say hello.
Fires need to be under control all the time.
Never put glass or steel or anything stupid like that in fires.
Give any left over wood to other campers when you leave.

There is probably others i abide by but cant think of them at the moment.
Pretty much every camper around here anyway seems to have a similar thought process.

Bush courtesy.
You were obviously brought up camping [thumbsupbig]
Same ethic i was taught growing up as a youngster and have passed onto my children and others lucky enough to camp with us[wink11]

[goingbush]

This has happened to us a number of times, people that do it are unreasonable & have an inability to think rationally . We usually pack up and leave rather than confrontation which can get out of hand.

Now we camp covertly , well away from view of any road or track . And never within 500m of anyone else we see, more like 5 -10. Km.

[87County]

This has happened to us a number of times, people that do it are unreasonable & have an inability to think rationally . We usually pack up and leave rather than confrontation which can get out of hand.

Now we camp covertly , well away from view of any road or track . And never within 500m of anyone else we see, more like 5 -10. Km.

Sounds like a good policy.

Unfortunately there always can be a situation where options run out if it is an overnight stop when travelling

[timax]

Now we camp covertly , well away from view of any road or track . And never within 500m of anyone else we see, more like 5 -10. Km.
I cant think of anywhere along the NSW coast where you could do this. Not anywhere worth camping at least.

[austastar]

Hi, did that in NSW without trouble for a month or so a few years ago.
Cheers

[laney]

Went camping in the Grampians national park years ago the group near use just craped on the ground through toilet paper on the ground just pigs so when they went for a drive my dad got a shovel and packed their mess in their sleeping bags.

[rangieman]

Went camping in the Grampians national park years ago the group near use just craped on the ground through toilet paper on the ground just pigs so when they went for a drive my dad got a shovel and packed their mess in their sleeping bags.
Sweet[thumbsupbig]

[4bee]

Went camping in the Grampians national park years ago the group near use just craped on the ground through toilet paper on the ground just pigs so when they went for a drive my dad got a shovel and packed their mess in their sleeping bags.

Good one Dad. [bigsmile1]

If they were Bogans they probably thought they had s**t the bed.

[p38arover]

Some years ago when I was in the LROC, we had a trip down through the High Country.

One night, I heard some noise at the back of my tent and went to check. It was a couple of kids from another LROC owner's family having a crap behind my tent. I was not amused!

[4bee]

Some years ago when I was in the LROC, we had a trip down through the High Country.

One night, I heard some noise at the back of my tent and went to check. It was a couple of kids from another LROC owner's family having a crap behind my tent. I was not amused!



Bloody cheek!




One would hope LROC standards have have improved since then?

[Bearman]

On a recent trip out through Birdsville and the desert to Alice I stayed a few days in the Birdsville Caravan park. I selected a spot well away from any other campers as I sleep in the back of the 6x6 and like being away from others as I am a light sleeper. There were heaps of spare sites everywhere and bugger me dead on the 2nd day 2 vehicles and camper trailers move in right beside me and set up. I did the right thing and went and said hello and had a bit of a chat with them and found out they were staying several days as well (disappointed) I might add and wondered why they would want to set up right beside me when there were so many spare sites closer to the amenities. Anyhow their antics up till about 1130hrs was enough for me and I moved out next morning. Could not believe the noise they made without any consideration for their neighbour. They were from Vic and poms as well - need I say more!!

[101RRS]

The same neighbourly actions happen when you go into a near empty cafe and you want to have a private conversation with someone - you can guarantee that the next person/group that comes in will sit at the table right next to you even though the place is just about empty.

The same happens in the toilets these days - I was brought up that you gave the bloke next to you at the urinals the max possible room - him down one end and you down the other eyes in front [thumbsupbig].

Not these days - mateship and getting as close as possible seems to be the name of the game these days - hmm nothing to see here - move right along [wink11]

[4bee]

In reverse. It sounds like they knew how to get rid of someone camped too close to them & it worked.

[bee utey]

On a recent trip out through Birdsville and the desert to Alice I stayed a few days in the Birdsville Caravan park. I selected a spot well away from any other campers as I sleep in the back of the 6x6 and like being away from others as I am a light sleeper. There were heaps of spare sites everywhere and bugger me dead on the 2nd day 2 vehicles and camper trailers move in right beside me and set up. I did the right thing and went and said hello and had a bit of a chat with them and found out they were staying several days as well (disappointed) I might add and wondered why they would want to set up right beside me when there were so many spare sites closer to the amenities. Anyhow their antics up till about 1130hrs was enough for me and I moved out next morning. Could not believe the noise they made without any consideration for their neighbour. They were from Vic and poms as well - need I say more!!

That's what 8-blocks-to-the-acre living does to your brain...

[dero]

Two large dogs that don't like people getting too close to their ute has proven very effective for me .

[edddo]

may not work well in national parks?

[4bee]

The same neighbourly actions happen when you go into a near empty cafe and you want to have a private conversation with someone - you can guarantee that the next person/group that comes in will sit at the table right next to you even though the place is just about empty.

The same happens in the toilets these days - I was brought up that you gave the bloke next to you at the urinals the max possible room - him down one end and you down the other eyes in front [thumbsupbig].

Not these days - mateship and getting as close as possible seems to be the name of the game these days - hmm nothing to see here - move right along




It's to do with all this PC "reaching out" crap or in your case, not reaching out to the bloke in the next urinal pan.[smilebigeye]

[dero]

No dogs in national parks is a real pain , haven't been able to train them to pretend that are not there when the ranger turns up.

[Xtreme]

An effective deterrent used by one of my mates was to wait until 'intruders' had half set up their camp and then play his air raid CD at full noise while letting go with a couple of shots from his 12 gauge - no words were spoken as he waved them goodbye!

[4bee]

No dogs in national parks is a real pain , haven't been able to train them to pretend that are not there when the ranger turns up.

What you really need is a can of "Doggy Invisi Spray". For applying to the Ranger not the dog. But if you sprayed both they'd be back to seeing each other, so no gain there then.[smilebigeye][smilebigeye]

[rick130]

The same neighbourly actions happen when you go into a near empty cafe and you want to have a private conversation with someone - you can guarantee that the next person/group that comes in will sit at the table right next to you even though the place is just about empty.

The same happens in the toilets these days - I was brought up that you gave the bloke next to you at the urinals the max possible room - him down one end and you down the other eyes in front [thumbsupbig].

Not these days - mateship and getting as close as possible seems to be the name of the game these days - hmm nothing to see here - move right along [wink11]I agree re the cafe thing, it happens far too often for my liking but I have the opposite thing happening at the urinal.
Whenever I'm standing there everyone makes for a cubicle?

I'm not sure what that says about me? [emoji848][emoji23]

Oh, and that's when I'm in tradie work wear too, not after hours stuff. [emoji12]

[4bee]

Whenever I'm standing there everyone makes for a cubicle?

Obviously two things. 1. They have you sussed or 2. they are trying to tell you something, Rick.[smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][wink11]

[87County]

You're a skite, Rick :)

[p38arover]

I'm not sure what that says about me? [emoji848][emoji23]

Your aim is terrible? [bigwhistle]

[rick130]

Your aim is terrible? [bigwhistle][emoji23][emoji23]

Hadn't thought of that Ron!

[rick130]

Obviously two things. 1. They have you sussed or 2. they are trying to tell you something, Rick.[smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][smilebigeye][wink11]
You're a skite, Rick :)Hadn't thought of that either. [emoji848][emoji23]

[p38arover]

Hadn't thought of that either. [emoji848][emoji23]

We did. [bigwhistle]