The internet is watching us

[Hall]

I posted a comment in the thread about machinist hand books, all innocent like etc. Now on another site Ebroadcast which is a online TV guide I am getting ads for local machining places. May be just pure coincidence [bighmmm] or not.
Cheers Hall

[travelrover]

I posted a comment in the thread about machinist hand books, all innocent like etc. Now on another site Ebroadcast which is a online TV guide I am getting ads for local machining places. May be just pure coincidence [bighmmm] or not.
Cheers HallHi Hall, it sure is. I googled Land Rover factory tours and am now getting ads for accommodation in Solihull ;-)

[87County]

just coincidence


(I'll probably get a lot of useless ads for coincidences now :) )

[laney]

The internet watches us all the time through our phones computers and so on governments around the world love this as they can profile us and manipulate us to there benefit big business does the same.

[DiscoMick]

Google, Explorer, Facebook etc all respond to what we search. And our devices report our activities to them.

[timax]

All to tailor a more personal experience for you!

[Saitch]

A while ago I looked at a cruise holiday around the Baltic Sea and started getting adverts for "Single Russian Women"!

[LRT]

A while ago I looked at a cruise holiday around the Baltic Sea and started getting adverts for "Single Russian Women"!

It does seem to get it’s wires crossed every now and again...

I only get those ones on AULRO & the stupid 1 millionth visitor ad.

[NavyDiver]

I posted a comment in the thread about machinist hand books, all innocent like etc. Now on another site Ebroadcast which is a online TV guide I am getting ads for local machining places. May be just pure coincidence [bighmmm] or not.
Cheers Hall
Your computer or more specifically your internet browser collects cookies. Google and others then target you with specific advertisements.

It can be the browser you use or the search engine like google. Firefox has a Do Not Track. which does stop a little bit. TOR is a little more hard core (https://www.techworld.com/security/best-8-secure-browsers-3246550/) [biggrin]

[goingbush]

I only have to think my backside is itchy & up pops ads for Anusol .

Start having an innocent discussion about GL5 and GL4 oils then go to google and type in "what is " and it will auto populate to "what is the difference between GL4 & GL5 oil" ..... welcome to the 22nd century !!!

Its why I have an Android phone & not an Iphone, I can remove the battery .

[Hall]

The web browser that I use is Water fox, another version of Fire fox and has the so called do not track features as well. I get searching on sites like you tube or google that your search history is picked over, but a obscure post that is getting to another level. I have a all in one app that is supposed to among other things also clear out your search history. Got to be careful with that app cause if you tick all the boxes you clear out every thing as in pass words the lot.
Cheers Hall

[DiscoMick]

Somewhere in your phone should be a Delete Cookies option.

[gromit]

Watch this doco to see what's going on.
It is 2 hours long and if you can't cope with this length the doco explains why.......

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5qJjNM2Kx0)



Colin

[Pedro_The_Swift]

Hey,, I can top those,,

listening to internet radio "TheLoon" 103.9 from (very) North America,,
and up pops a radio add from Maroochydore...
The first time was like WTF?!?

does it quite regularly now...

[trout1105]

The newer boat gps/sounders now have wifi and internet connectivity so our marks and tracks are probably not so secret anymore.

[trog]

Rarely do more non aulro searches lead to ads. Usually searching for records on discogs or aquarium sites. Most common pop ups are for real estate sites . Not planning on buying or selling atm , so totally useless.

[Saitch]

Rarely do more non aulro searches lead to ads. Usually searching for records on discogs or aquarium sites. Most common pop ups are for real estate sites . Not planning on buying or selling atm , so totally useless.

But they know, my friend, they know, before you do!

[trog]

Possibly due to legal issues , searches and viewing articles on the now legal marijuana in Canada hasn’t brought any pop ups either , but I expect now my international mail might receive extra scrutiny 😈

[RANDLOVER]

I was watching that "Pinegap" programme and it showed how they could turn on the microphone on any mobile phone, I knew this was possible, but thought they had to have physical access to load an app, etc on to it. Now I see my anti-virus company, is offering protection against mic's and cameras being turned on remotely.

[goingbush]

I was watching that "Pinegap" programme and it showed how they could turn on the microphone on any mobile phone, I knew this was possible, but thought they had to have physical access to load an app, etc on to it. Now I see my anti-virus company, is offering protection against mic's and cameras being turned on remotely.


Interestingly Pine Gap is on Netflix Au, but I'm subscribed to USA Netflix which I signed up for before Au Netflix was a thing, Watch via a VPN / IP blocker / Unlocator & Pine Gap is not viewable on US Netflix . Why do they carry on with geo-location content blocking when its so easy to defeat ?? And is this show so sensitive that its not suitable for an American audience.

[DiscoMick]

My phone is spying on me, so I decided to spy on it
My phone is spying on me, so I decided to spy on it - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-25/my-phone-is-spying-on-me-so-i-decided-to-spy-on-my-phone/10306586)

[incisor]

My phone is spying on me, so I decided to spy on it
My phone is spying on me, so I decided to spy on it - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-25/my-phone-is-spying-on-me-so-i-decided-to-spy-on-my-phone/10306586)

yep a https proxy and some scripts to collate the address data collected into readable form.

will show whats gone where and come from where but seeing as it is https it wont show what it is that is being transmitted so you don't get to find out whether it's good or bad when it's all said and done.

many decent firewall apps will show you that sort of address data from what i have seen, but they don't generally collate a list.

[tc_s1]

yep a https proxy and some scripts to collate the address data collected into readable form.

will show whats gone where and come from where but seeing as it is https it wont show what it is that is being transmitted so you don't get to find out whether it's good or bad when it's all said and done.

many decent firewall apps will show you that sort of address data from what i have seen, but they don't generally collate a list.There are means of setting up keys and proxies to then be able to decrypt SSL and TLS*traffic using the Wireshark network protocol analyzer. In Wireshark, the SSL dissector is fully functional and can support advanced features such as decryption of SSL, if the encryption key is provided. This is useful when troubleshooting products that use SSL or TLS encryption. There are added requirements and methods for even more advanced capabilities, so I am told.

[incisor]

There are means of setting up keys and proxies to then be able to decrypt SSL and TLS*traffic using the Wireshark network protocol analyzer. In Wireshark, the SSL dissector is fully functional and can support advanced features such as decryption of SSL, if the encryption key is provided. This is useful when troubleshooting products that use SSL or TLS encryption. There are added requirements and methods for even more advanced capabilities, so I am told.

I agree that looking at your own traffic when you know your own keys is easy but when you don't it gets much harder

pretty much anything is possible if you have the hardware / $'s / knowhow

what is feasible / viable for most is another point altogether...

IMHO

[Chenz]

It gets scarier. I was the office the other day with my phone sitting on the desk and the guy next to me started talking about farm sheds he was looking at for his block of land. An hour later at lunch I open my phone, look at Faceache and here are ads popping up for farm sheds.

[DiscoMick]

Yep, our phones are listening to us and telling others about what we discuss.

[superquag]

I bought a cheap ($35) " activity / fitbit" gadget, mainly for pulse, O2 and BP. but, the software to run it all demanded access to 'Everything', - contacts, camera wiFi and GPS. etc. ! The devil is... even to set the time & date, the phone needs to have the software fully loaded. - The wristband is NOT an independent item.
Even refusing one of the access-"requests" means NO installation.
Why does some obscure Oriental Gentleman 'need' to know and see what is happening TO and AROUND me ??? [bigsad][bigsad][bigsad]

[gromit]

Why does some obscure Oriental Gentleman 'need' to know and see what is happening TO and AROUND me ??? [bigsad][bigsad][bigsad]

Because he can collect information and on-sell it making more than he did selling you the product.......

Colin

[rick130]

I bought a cheap ($35) " activity / fitbit" gadget, mainly for pulse, O2 and BP. but, the software to run it all demanded access to 'Everything', - contacts, camera wiFi and GPS. etc. ! The devil is... even to set the time & date, the phone needs to have the software fully loaded. - The wristband is NOT an independent item.
Even refusing one of the access-"requests" means NO installation.
Why does some obscure Oriental Gentleman 'need' to know and see what is happening TO and AROUND me ??? [bigsad][bigsad][bigsad]Not that long ago 'secret' US bases became not so secret as soldiers and agents fitness regimes were uploaded automatically, and so you had all those traces outlining 'something' in the middle of nowhere where there was supposed to be nothing.

[superquag]

I've been told that the POKEMON craze has a similar (?) 'hidden agenda'... Great way to get up-to-date pics on a desired target, foreign embassy, infrastructure installations etc. Even military barracks in civvy-street.

[DiscoMick]

Most shopping centres track phone movements.

[tc_s1]

I've been told that the POKEMON craze has a similar (?) 'hidden agenda'... Great way to get up-to-date pics on a desired target, foreign embassy, infrastructure installations etc. Even military barracks in civvy-street.Its far easier than all that, though it may also be used to gather g-2. By simply monitoring signals emitting from the phone and logging them against motion, a phone without a fitness app will still give a pretty good blueprint of a facility. Signal reflection changes as one passes concrete, sheetrock, doors, windows, etc. Protecting glagainst that sort of thing is the reason secure facilities have required one to place their devices in mini lockers upon entry, even before 'smart phones' and 'fitness trackers'; apps just made easier and better what was already being done.

[DiscoMick]

My devices are sending and receiving data every two seconds, sometimes even when I sleep - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-16/datalife-i-spied-on-my-phone-and-here-is-what-i-found/10496450)

[goingbush]

Just out of curiosity value click on one of my webpages here Going Bush (http://goingbush.com/ptev.html) or here Going Bush (http://goingbush.com/defender.html)

and I'll post up a screen grab later of what my free web tracker shows me about you,
even try if your hiding behind a VPN or geoblocker .

[weeds]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181116/cd0c86c2bfdf67be90362e6ef7b790e0.png

3:39 I clicked

[DiscoMick]

Just out of curiosity value click on one of my webpages here Going Bush (http://goingbush.com/ptev.html) or here Going Bush (http://goingbush.com/defender.html)

and I'll post up a screen grab later of what my free web tracker shows me about you,
even try if your hiding behind a VPN or geoblocker .Fascinating site.

[goingbush]

Hmm , not as much info as last time I looked, AULRO has gone secure, used to show AULRO as the referring link.

With higher access level that I have (paid account ?? )more info can be drilled down.

http://goingbush.com/images/cap1.jpeg

http://goingbush.com/images/cap2.jpeg

[LRJim]

Hmm , not as much info as last time I looked, AULRO has gone secure, used to show AULRO as the referring link.

With higher access level that I have (paid account ?? )more info can be drilled down.

http://goingbush.com/images/cap1.jpeg

http://goingbush.com/images/cap2.jpegThat's me at both 5:15 and 5 :16, I'm not in Hawthorne though must be the tower maybe. But definitely the same time and android device [emoji106]

[DiscoMick]

Where is the boundary between your phone and your mind?

Where is the boundary between your phone and your mind? | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/09/tech-mind-body-boundary-facebook-google?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Copy_to_clipboard)

[sizl]

Yes your data is used constantly, especially if you use google. The systems are so heavily automated that you are not specifically being targeted but it certainly
Is possible for Govs to target you with the data. It “may” get better one day with block chain based tech but that is a long way away.

If you don’t want to be tracked, take a look at TOR browser.

Has limitations but......

[DiscoMick]

Mine has the option ticked to tell me when an app. is checking my location.