Writing under the paint

[Mustlust]

After almost 10 years of ownership, I’ve decided to remove the horrible paint that had been applied to my S1 a few decades ago. On the front mudguard I’ve noticed the faintest impression of hand painted signage. I can just make out the word ‘Ringwood’ which I am guessing was the farm/ station that it was originally employed upon. There is a very faint reference to load capacity a bit below. The owners initial and incomplete name is above.
I happen to have the original Rego number which has the 3 letters then numbers, so I guess this was a NSW Rego. I did, however, acquire the landie from around Bundaberg in Qld.
I was thinking of doing some investigation and if I can find some reference material, maybe try to replicate the signage.
Has anyone got similar hand written signage on there front guard? Pics would be appreciated.

[QRS40]

Forgive me if I’ve missed something but what makes you think rego was nsw by the 3 letter 3 number combo? was used pretty much everywhere by the 50s.

[1950landy]

1st July 1955 Qld stoped using Q plates & went to 3 letters with 3 numbers The 1st was NAA 000

[pop058]

another early Qld rego was L L L N N N with the 1st L (letter) being either N, O or P. White writing on a black background.

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[Homestar]

Could have been Vic Rego too with that combo - and Ringwood is a ‘burb of Melbourne so could have been shipped North many years after the original ownership.

[gromit]

Here are some pictures from a Series I I parted out some years back.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4906/45028848864_7083f2aef5_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bB3BZb)DSCF4048 (https://flic.kr/p/2bB3BZb) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4824/44840330635_9c44cec8cf_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2bjoq5T)DSCF6444 (https://flic.kr/p/2bjoq5T) by Colin Radley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/152321353@N07/), on Flickr


Colin

[JDNSW]

In the 1950s all states agreed to a unified registration number scheme as ABC-123. NSW started with A (but heavy trucks were F), Victoria with G, Qld with N, can't remember the rest, but Commonwealth vehicles were Z.

They were implemented at different dates in different states, but my family (in NSW) had one of the new numbers in 1953, still an 'A', but not right at the start of the alphabet.

In NSW all commercial vehicles, including all Landrovers, were required to be labelled with the name and address of the owner and the vehicle's tare weight. I think this requirement ended about 1960, so would have applied to all NSW registered Series 1 and some Series 2. There was a minimum size of the writing, and it had to be on the RH side.

[Mustlust]

I quite like the idea of a sign written personal label on the guard. I think that I’ll have one made up when I repaint the old boy. What was the tare weight for an 86 in S1? And dare I ask, what would be the period correct unit measure?

[JDNSW]

The weight will depend on the body type and equipment!

Correct units would be tons (T), hundredweight(cwt) and quarters(q). (look them up!)

28 pounds to a quarter, four quarters to a hundredweight, and 20 hundredweight to the ton.

[Mustlust]

And on the mud guard, I found this....
Was the original yellow on green??
https://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/14d0f6ae14dff5f01ea3b4aeda4c73ff.jpghttps://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/e99da1fd278439f9dcb001fca090131f.jpg
I’ll trace of copy of all original signage and aim to find a signwriter to replicate same.

[russellrovers]

After almost 10 years of ownership, I’ve decided to remove the horrible paint that had been applied to my S1 a few decades ago. On the front mudguard I’ve noticed the faintest impression of hand painted signage. I can just make out the word ‘Ringwood’ which I am guessing was the farm/ station that it was originally employed upon. There is a very faint reference to load capacity a bit below. The owners initial and incomplete name is above.
I happen to have the original Rego number which has the 3 letters then numbers, so I guess this was a NSW Rego. I did, however, acquire the landie from around Bundaberg in Qld.
I was thinking of doing some investigation and if I can find some reference material, maybe try to replicate the signage.
Has anyone got similar hand written signage on there front guard? Pics would be appreciated.hi landrover sign was puton annard and thomson sold lrovers jim

[Mustlust]

Thanks Jim, any idea of colour? Was it yellow?

[Bigbjorn]

In the 1950s all states agreed to a unified registration number scheme as ABC-123. NSW started with A (but heavy trucks were F), Victoria with G, Qld with N, can't remember the rest, but Commonwealth vehicles were Z.

They were implemented at different dates in different states, but my family (in NSW) had one of the new numbers in 1953, still an 'A', but not right at the start of the alphabet.

In NSW all commercial vehicles, including all Landrovers, were required to be labelled with the name and address of the owner and the vehicle's tare weight. I think this requirement ended about 1960, so would have applied to all NSW registered Series 1 and some Series 2. There was a minimum size of the writing, and it had to be on the RH side.

Qld. started with NAA in July 1955. I had a Mk.1 Zephyr first registered in December 1955 that was NBG. Some of the cars I owned and can recall the numbers were Q321-770 1940, Q538-268 1951, Q592-??? 1952, Q684-??? 1955, NSU- 1964, NYG- 1966, PSE- 1971, OGC- 1973.

Commercial vehicles had to have signage on the driver's side of the registered owners name and location, tare weight and load in t-c-q. JD is correct this requirement was negated about 1960.

[Ricrose]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190127/71682a7486826b474890eae33121d67f.jpg
Here is a similar one I have on a series 2 guard I intend to use. It looks like the PO covered it over with a patch which preserved the script.

[1950landy]

I thought the early ones were white writing on the plates attached to front & rear guards ,then went to yellow
I could be wrong but my 1950 80" was white writing & I had a later tailgate were the writing was yellow. Booth vehicles were from A&T.

[Mustlust]

Would my 1956 86in have had the LR logo in the tailgate too??

[p38arover]

https://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/e99da1fd278439f9dcb001fca090131f.jpg
I’ll trace of copy of all original signage and aim to find a signwriter to replicate same.

Maybe: Central West potential awaits | The Land (https://www.theland.com.au/story/3578980/central-west-potential-awaits/) although the owners' name was Border.

[Mustlust]

Would my 1956 86in have had the LR logo in the tailgate too??

[OneOff]

https://www.aulro.com/mobile-gallery/e99da1fd278439f9dcb001fca090131f.jpg
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My guess would be “I. Bradley”

[S3ute]

The original Land Rover sign on the guard was very likely yellow - the green there now is just the non-faded original paint of the guard. It was fairly common on Queensland assembled vehicles.

All of our registered farm trucks used to have the owners (company) name, property and tare weight painted on the front guards behind the wheel as per your original query.

I personally doubt that the Ringwood name is the Melbourne suburb as per an earlier response - the inverted commas suggest that it was a property name.

Cheers,

Neil

[Mustlust]

Just need to find a sign writer on the Gold Coast now. Not willing to have a go myself as I would like a neat and even finish.

[1950landy]

Mosst sign wrighters these days do it with contact . If you supplythem with a photo they can scan than the computer will cut it out of contact. You will need to give them some measurements, 30 years Ago I hand painted mine but a couple of years I had it done in contact , couldn't tell it wasn't painted & much better job.