Mac book pro too full

[Don 130]

My mac book pro complained last night when I plugged in my phone, that it couldn't back it up because there's not enough free space. How does this sort of problem get solved? Is there a de-clutterer?
Don.

[incisor]

Onyx is as good as it gets

[Don 130]

Thanks Inc, I'll give it a go.
Don.

[Don 130]

Should I use all three apps, Deeper and Maintenance as well as onyX?
Don.

[Zeros]

Thanks Inc, I’m interested in this too. Does Onyx have an automated clean up function for Luddites?, or do you need to know what you’re doing?

Don, obviously you can also free up a lot of space simply by deleting stuff such as: photos, movies, deleted emails, etc. EG: Most of us have multiple copies of the same photo saved because instead of carefully taking one on film, now we fire off hundreds with digital cameras!

Having said that, I’ve always thought MacBook hard drives are too small! Which version do you have? Do you have Backup hard drive separate? You could make an archive each year by having two external back up drives, then delete lots of content on your computer itself.

As a relative Luddite if I find archiving to external drives convenient. Just make sure you definitely have two copies on external drives before you delete!

Cheers

[goingbush]

My Late 2013 MacBook Pro started making funny grinding noises , had been like it for about 12 months so I bought a 2 Tb backup disc & started running Time Machine to save backup copies. Then got lazy and about 2 months after latest backup it crashed unrecoverable . I though it was the Hard drive but all online diagnoses said it was Logic Board.

Since the thing was making a grinding noise, keypad was worn out & battery cycle time was down , as well the charge cord coupling needed constant jiggling I decided to buy a new 2018 one .

Up specced the CPU & 500g SSD & (non Touch Bar - who needs newfangled gadgets) the new one absolutely flies in comparison.

I restored my previous MacBook to the new one , just missing 2 month worth of stuff. And my old Photoshop and a few other apps needed renewing.

only bummer & its a big bummer , there are NO USB ports , NO SD card port , just 2 stupid Thunderbolt / charge ports . You got to use an adaptor dongle to get any useful functionality . Big backward step IMO.

So I pull old MacBook apart and remove HDD , plug into the dongle with a SATA adaptor & wham, Old HDD spins up & fully accessible, no noise . So no idea what the clunking / grinding was from the old MBP. Finishe migrating the last 2 month of stuff across.

[incisor]

onyx has an automated maintenance mode

onyx is all I use as it does pretty much every thing that "needs" doing

[incisor]

As a relative Luddite if I find archiving to external drives convenient. Just back sure you definately have two copies on external drives before you delete!

Cheers

VERY sage advice....

[Zeros]

My Late 2013 MacBook Pro started making funny grinding noises , had been like it for about 12 months so I bought a 2 Tb backup disc & started running Time Machine to save backup copies. Then got lazy and about 2 months after latest backup it crashed unrecoverable . I though it was the Hard drive but all online diagnoses said it was Logic Board.

Since the thing was making a grinding noise, keypad was worn out & battery cycle time was down , as well the charge cord coupling needed constant jiggling I decided to buy a new 2018 one .

Up specced the CPU & 500g SSD & (non Touch Bar - who needs newfangled gadgets) the new one absolutely flies in comparison.

I restored my previous MacBook to the new one , just missing 2 month worth of stuff. And my old Photoshop and a few other apps needed renewing.

only bummer & its a big bummer , there are NO USB ports , NO SD card port , just 2 stupid Thunderbolt / charge ports . You got to use an adaptor dongle to get any useful functionality . Big backward step IMO.

So I pull old MacBook apart and remove HDD , plug into the dongle with a SATA adaptor & wham, Old HDD spins up & fully accessible, no noise . So no idea what the clunking / grinding was from the old MBP. Finishe migrating the last 2 month of stuff across.

Great story Going Bush! and a classic MAC experience. MAC's are like Defenders IMO :) Quirky, work so much better (when they're working) and the interface is for grown ups! Excellent new about your HDD too. Good to have an archive.

My late 2013 MacBook Pro is still going strong (touch wood), might be something to do with the 16GB of RAM I ordered way back when. I reckon RAM is the one to upgrade when you order a new MAC + get the biggest hard drive you can afford at the time, because data is only going to increase. The battery charge cycle has definitely shortened though and the amount of back-dating patches I need to download for my 'old' programs to keep running on new OS Mojave is getting annoying.

No USB. No SD is really dumb, I agree. The only thing I hate about MAC is the way they control the user. Like no more headphone jack for iPhone. Thunder & Lightning ports are not compatible with anything other than MACs! and adapters suk.

Thanks...you have reminded me to back it up! I've been on leave for a few weeks and so haven't done it for a month. Hope you enjoy your new Confuser!

[Zeros]

onyx has an automated maintenance mode

onyx is all I use as it does pretty much every thing that "needs" doing

Great thanks, I'll give it a shot. ...although this sounds problematic!

Titanium Software | Operating system utilities for Mac - OnyX (https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html)
OnyX 3.5.3 for macOS Mojave 10.1

IMPORTANT: Before running this version, you must allow OnyX to access data in the Full Disk Access pane. More info... (https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/issues.html)

The application stops responding while checking the startup disk

Warning: Sometimes, the verification can take a very long time with Mojave (sometimes more than an hour)!

[incisor]

i have mojave on my work machine and it behaves just fine..

there is always a lull when it starts up as it checks your disk configuration and has a quick look at some permissions...

i have 5 disks in my Mac Pro and it takes 10 minutes but on my old MacBook Pro it takes about a minute or less.

you'll be fine, stop looking for problems and do it :p

[Zeros]

i have mojave on my work machine and it behaves just fine..

there is always a lull when it starts up as it checks your disk configuration and has a quick look at some permissions...

i have 5 disks in my Mac Pro and it takes 10 minutes but on my old MacBook Pro it takes about a minute or less.

you'll be fine, stop looking for problems and do it :p

Cheers INC. Not looking for problems. Looking to avoid them! I'm being cautious. ...too many software instals / upgrades render older machines unusable. I don't have the cash for a MAC upgrade. ...My 2013 MacBook Pro is beginning to baulk at new programs and my 2009 iMac would make a good anchor for a kayak, because it won't run any current programs. [bighmmm]

[rar110]

I replaced the HD in my 2012 pro with a 500G SSD. The SSD makes it heaps quicker. I would like to upgrade to a 1TB as so cheap now. But upgrading to 16G RAM is a bigger priority.

I moved photos and bigger files to iCloud. That saved about 100G when I was close to full.

[goingbush]

I replaced the HD in my 2012 pro with a 500G SSD. The SSD makes it heaps quicker. I would like to upgrade to a 1TB as so cheap now. But upgrading to 16G RAM is a bigger priority.

I moved photos and bigger files to iCloud. That saved about 100G when I was close to full.

Ive been reluctant to use any cloud based storage as much as possible as it needs data to access, which is a problem when remote.
How long did migrating 100g to the cloud take ? and whats it like browsing photos now ??

I wonder if my ram from the old Late 13 will suit your 2012, pretty sure I had 16G in it.

[Zeros]

Ive been reluctant to use any cloud based storage as much as possible as it needs data to access, which is a problem when remote.
How long did migrating 100g to the cloud take ? and whats it like browsing photos now ??

I wonder if my ram from the old Late 13 will suit your 2012, pretty sure I had 16G in it.

I'm an old fogey before my time and I totally agree with you re: the cloud. I'm not interested at all in trusting all my files to the cloud. Maybe it's more reliable than external drives? but I'm not convinced. And I agree with you re not having access without an NBN connection.
...It's bad enough trusting all our emails to Goggle! but our bad photo's to the cloud! LOL [bigwhistle]

Nice idea to share your ram - I imagine it should slot straight in.

[Don 130]

[QUOTE=goingbush So no idea what the clunking / grinding was from the old MBP. [/QUOTE]

It may have been crumbs or something in a fan.
Don.

[Don 130]

Thanks Inc, I’m interested in this too. Does Onyx have an automated clean up function for Luddites?, or do you need to know what you’re doing?

Don, obviously you can also free up a lot of space simply by deleting stuff such as: photos, movies, deleted emails, etc. EG: Most of us have multiple copies of the same photo saved because instead of carefully taking one on film, now we fire off hundreds with digital cameras!

Having said that, I’ve always thought MacBook hard drives are too small! Which version do you have? Do you have Backup hard drive separate? You could make an archive each year by having two external back up drives, then delete lots of content on your computer itself.

As a relative Luddite if I find archiving to external drives convenient. Just make sure you definitely have two copies on external drives before you delete!

Cheers

Thanks Zeros, My mac is a 15" late 2013 retina. 8GB Ram. It's running Mojave. I do back up regularly to a 1TB seagate, but only one.
Don.

[Don 130]

I replaced the HD in my 2012 pro with a 500G SSD. The SSD makes it heaps quicker. I would like to upgrade to a 1TB as so cheap now. But upgrading to 16G RAM is a bigger priority.

I moved photos and bigger files to iCloud. That saved about 100G when I was close to full.

Where did you get the SSD upgrade and at what cost if you don't mind me asking?
Don.

[rar110]

Ive been reluctant to use any cloud based storage as much as possible as it needs data to access, which is a problem when remote.
How long did migrating 100g to the cloud take ? and whats it like browsing photos now ??

I wonder if my ram from the old Late 13 will suit your 2012, pretty sure I had 16G in it.

My laptop doesn’t much leave home. The migration time is difficult to tell as does it in the background. Most photos sit on the machine as a thumbnail. Opening a photo is instant at home with cable internet.

Re RAM. Mine is
MacBookPro9,2 13-inch i5 Unibody Mid-2012 A1278 EMC 2554

If yours is same will fit. But I assume it’s a retina MacBook.

[rar110]

I'm an old fogey before my time and I totally agree with you re: the cloud. I'm not interested at all in trusting all my files to the cloud. Maybe it's more reliable than external drives? but I'm not convinced. And I agree with you re not having access without an NBN connection.
...It's bad enough trusting all our emails to Goggle! but our bad photo's to the cloud! LOL [bigwhistle]

Nice idea to share your ram - I imagine it should slot straight in.

I would trust a cloud service before a portable drive. Cloud service has multiple backups of your files, lots of redundancy.

Portable storage is good but wouldn’t trust it long term.

[rar110]

Where did you get the SSD upgrade and at what cost if you don't mind me asking?
Don.

I bought my SSD at UMart or RAM City. Can’t recall. It cost about $400 for 500G back then. Now is $150 for 500G and $285 for 1TB. I used time machine to do the rebuild from memory. It wasn’t hard to do with utube tutorials.

[goingbush]

My laptop doesn’t much leave home. The migration time is difficult to tell as does it in the background. Most photos sit on the machine as a thumbnail. Opening a photo is instant at home with cable internet.

Re RAM. Mine is
MacBookPro9,2 13-inch i5 Unibody Mid-2012 A1278 EMC 2554

If yours is same will fit. But I assume it’s a retina MacBook.

My old one is also A1278 , just double checked the ram , it will fit yours but sorry for the bum steer, looks like I only had 8gb
just googled the RAM barcode number CMSA8GX3M2A1333C9

Corsair CMSA8GX3M2A1333C9 8GB ( 2x4GB ) 1333MHz DDR3 SODIMM

[Don 130]

[QUOTE=goingbush;

I restored my previous MacBook to the new one , just missing 2 month worth of stuff. And my old Photoshop and a few other apps needed renewing.

only bummer & its a big bummer , there are NO USB ports , NO SD card port , just 2 stupid Thunderbolt / charge ports . You got to use an adaptor dongle to get any useful functionality . Big backward step IMO.[/QUOTE]

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Don.

[Zeros]

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Don.

I thought the whole idea of a slimline laptop was that you don’t have a bulky computer to lug around!

Add in an external hard drive because the internal one is too small, an external card and USB port because the stupid wafer hasn’t got one, a mobile internet dongle because the NBN is crap, and a charging cable! It’s getting pretty darn bulky!

What has happened to the world of industrial designers? From MAC to Land Rover, the tech is taking over from practicality. Bonkers.

[speleomike]

Hi

No one should lose anything from "upgrading" their computer. Ever.

Best is to have a regular local backup (weekly maybe) and an offsite backup, taken every few weeks.

Local backups like Apple's "Time machine" or external hard drives with USB or ethernet are good but still need to be supplemented with a regular offsite backup. It is not rare, though not common, for an external drive to fail during a backup and you will lose both. Particularly if you do backups during a thunderstorm :-)

Then for a non-local backup options are Amazon S3, rsync.net or other cloud based schemes. Consider the costs per month and the costs to pull data out. I pay about $10/month for a few hundred GB of data offsite at Amazon. Amazon charge though for pulling data out! while rsync.net are pricier per month but no charge to get data out.

And of course for applications like mail if you use Microsoft's proprietary Outlook database then good luck. I stick with standard mbox format which has been around for decades. I can just copy the files to a backup and restore easily, and move them from Mail client to Mail client, PC to PC. With Mac it used to be open format but not sure now.

Mike