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67hardtop
6th December 2018, 11:09 AM
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Not me!

rangieman
6th December 2018, 05:14 PM
One Life Live It :Thump:Not[bigwhistle]

Tote
7th December 2018, 12:05 PM
So Jeep get beaten up for building an old fashioned 4wd that is designed for off road capability and doesn't get a good crash rating and Land Rover get beaten up for discontinuing an old fashioned 4wd that is designed for off road capability and wouldnt achieve even the Jeep's poor crash rating, Just saying........


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loanrangie
7th December 2018, 12:18 PM
Its a balancing act, you make it hardcore and it wont have all the tech we expect and wont pass a crash test, make it too modern and safe and no one will want it apart from hair dressers.

Fifth Columnist
7th December 2018, 10:10 PM
I've had only Land Rovers for nearly fifty years.
Wouldn't have anything else.

trout1105
7th December 2018, 10:17 PM
There is nothing wrong with Jeeps, They have always made a decent off road vehicle.
FFS even landrover copied their design in the early days[bigwhistle]

3toes
8th December 2018, 12:06 AM
A big part of the score in an EuroNCAP test is the tech side. That said even allowing for this the results this being a new design it should have been better.

bob10
8th December 2018, 09:51 AM
Just bad publicity, I guess.

‘Total lemons’: Jeep's struggles continue to grow | The New Daily Jeep's struggles continue to grow (https://thenewdaily.com.au/life/auto/2018/12/07/jeep-australian-struggles/?utm_source=Adestra&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Saturday%20News%20-%2020181208)

Arapiles
8th December 2018, 10:41 AM
Its a balancing act, you make it hardcore and it wont have all the tech we expect and wont pass a crash test, make it too modern and safe and no one will want it apart from hair dressers.

I don't think that's the case - it's basic structure failed, with significant deformation of the A pillars, roof and footwells. You can put to one side the lack of AEB and pedestrian score if you like but it still leaves a vehicle whose body crumpled in a worrying way - as an example, I would not want to be the driver of that orange one - look where the bumper ended up! The D4 would've done much better on this test than the Jeep and it's just as capable off-road.

Jeep kind of acknowledged that the Jeep's body isn't sufficiently strong because they're designed to remove the doors and roof - well this is the result. This crash test also illustrates that a ladder chassis, no matter how strong you make it, doesn't provide adequate protection if the body on top of it crumples. So all of those people telling us that, for example, LC200s are safer because they have a ladder chassis are kidding themselves.

And, to pick up someone else's comment, this is why I didn't buy a current Defender.

AndyG
14th December 2018, 08:29 PM
I don't think that's the case - it's basic structure failed, with significant deformation of the A pillars, roof and footwells. You can put to one side the lack of AEB and pedestrian score if you like but it still leaves a vehicle whose body crumpled in a worrying way - as an example, I would not want to be the driver of that orange one - look where the bumper ended up! The D4 would've done much better on this test than the Jeep and it's just as capable off-road.

Jeep kind of acknowledged that the Jeep's body isn't sufficiently strong because they're designed to remove the doors and roof - well this is the result. This crash test also illustrates that a ladder chassis, no matter how strong you make it, doesn't provide adequate protection if the body on top of it crumples. So all of those people telling us that, for example, LC200s are safer because they have a ladder chassis are kidding themselves.

And, to pick up someone else's comment, this is why I didn't buy a current Defender.At least in a defender the air bags wont go off randomly [emoji12]