70. Years of Land Rover

[Hogarthde]

In the October edition of Heritage Commercials ,there is an article about the good Landy of olden days. And just to keep V8 Ian interested,and pining for a quad box,there is also a reasonable history story about the ‘iconic’ B series

Dave

[V8Ian]

Is that a quarterly publication, Dave?

[Hogarthde]

I should have mentioned Ian, it is an U.K. magazine , published monthly.
This one is October ,and has a burgundy coloured Scammell Mountaineer on the cover.

Keep safe on those byways this (holiday ) season.

Dave

[V8Ian]

As of 15:30 today, I'm off the by-ways until 7/1/19. :banana:

[Hogarthde]

So you have gutters to clean ? , lawns to mow? ,window frames to reputty?

[V8Ian]

Eyelids to examine and feet to elevate.
Actually, I'm hoping to spend some time on the coach.

[Saitch]

"Coach" or "Couch"?[bighmmm]

[V8Ian]

"Coach" or "Couch"?[bighmmm]
C, all of the above.[smilebigeye]

[Tote]

I should have mentioned Ian, it is an U.K. magazine , published monthly.
This one is October ,and has a burgundy coloured Scammell Mountaineer on the cover.

Keep safe on those byways this (holiday ) season.

Dave

Interesting that you should mention Scammell, I was at a sale the other day where there were 4 trailers and an old Bedford prime mover equipped with a Scammell hitch. I had to google it as I had never seen one before. The trailers went for $5.00 each.

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Regards,
Tote

[Hogarthde]

The Scammell Hitch .....yes Tote it is an amazing little bit of equipment.

With the purpose built Scammell Scarab , a 3wheeler, those trailers where used in wharehouse,wool stores,bond stores , where the trailer could be detached from the cabin ,sit on the wheeled legs ,and the Scarab would buzz around and collect another trailer ,all without the operator getting out , even the electrics would self engage. An extremely well thought out purpose built piece of kit, mind you V8 Ian would never be comfortable in the Scarab

dave

[V8Ian]

The mechanical horse always fascinated me, although I have never been close up to one.
My FiL drove one for years and used to regale tales of the maneuverability of the gadget .
The trailers must've been brakeless???

[Tote]

The trailers at the sale all had air brakes on the axle.

Regards,
Tote

[Hogarthde]

I am dashed if I can remember anything about the braking system.
As Ian said , the Scarab and its trailer really was a gadget and possibly was not equipped with trailer brakes in its original form. Having the Bedford prime mover leads me to think it would be used on roads, Tote ,whereas the Scarab was not. That little unit wouldn’t pull the pants off Madonna, so was confined to wharehouse and wharf : nowadays a forklift is much more effective.

dave

[V8Ian]

The ones my FiL drove were used on public roads, around town, in the UK. That was back in the 1950s-early sixties and the trailers were the approximate size of the earlier horse drawn trailers, hence the nickname, mechanical horse. It is entirely possible that there was no requirement for trailer braking back then.
I'll make further enquiries and report back.

[V8Ian]

I just had a thought, was there a mechanical brake, through the coupling?

[V8Ian]

Giving this further thought, Tote's trailers were more than likely modified, if they had air brakes.
Even in the last days of Scammel couplings, vacuum brakes would've been pretty flash.

[Hogarthde]

Ah yes, Ian , you are indubitably correct, the little Scarab would in its element among the narrow roads in its homeland, delivery and drop offs and pickups here and there,

thanks for that, and your Fi L memories, we should get all our elders to record this history

[V8Ian]

Mechanical brakes it was.

The TruckNet UK Drivers RoundTable • View topic - A question about Scammel couplings. (http://www.trucknetuk.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=158616&p=2549477#p2549477)

You might find this forum interesting too, Dave .

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Scammel Scarab aka Mechanical Horse.

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[Hogarthde]

Well ,well, I had not realized they were used so extensively , so it is possible to teach old dogs.

Thanks Ian , good research

[Hogarthde]

I am still reading the forum Ian directed me to,

Perhaps I should forward the lights bill to Tote

Very interesting I must admit.

[V8Ian]

Only extensive in the UK, Dave, they were still pretty rare and of limited use in this country.

[JDNSW]

I can't recollect ever seeing one in this country. I suspect that they may have been used in isolated, out of public view, locations, such as in dockyards and warehouses.

[V8Ian]

You're right John, as some wit said "I havnt seen one hurtling down the hume for a while."

Scammell Scarab (1/1) - Historic Commercial Vehicle Club of Australia - Historic Commercial Vehicle Club of Australia (https://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/salewanted/2035-scammell-scarab)

More lecky Dave? [bighmmm]

[Hogarthde]

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You're right John, as some wit said "I havnt seen one hurtling down the hume for a while."

Scammell Scarab (1/1) - Historic Commercial Vehicle Club of Australia - Historic Commercial Vehicle Club of Australia (https://www.hcvc.com.au/forum/salewanted/2035-scammell-scarab)

More lecky Dave? [bighmmm]


I suppose I could rig up a dynamo on the bike; unless the cheque from Tote is forthcoming .

[Hogarthde]

That UK forum is fascinating Ian, but what is C&U regs?

Same, same our ADR?

[JDNSW]

Pretty much - I think the letters stand for "construction and use".

[V8Ian]

That UK forum is fascinating Ian, but what is C&U regs?

Same, same our ADR?
John's onto it, Dave.

[bblaze]

reading this today
Reunited after 70 years thanks to an old photo: Dorothy, 87, and one of the first Land Rovers she helped to build - and posed with as a 15-year-old girl (https://www.msn.com/en-au/motoring/news/reunited-after-70-years-thanks-to-an-old-photo-dorothy-87-and-one-of-the-first-land-rovers-she-helped-to-build-and-posed-with-as-a-15-year-old-girl/ar-BBRfbYP?ocid=spartandhp)

cheers
blaze

[donh54]

I can't recollect ever seeing one in this country. I suspect that they may have been used in isolated, out of public view, locations, such as in dockyards and warehouses.

I have vague recollections of seeing something similar on the Auckland wharves when I was but a lad in short pants.

[V8Ian]

Just got the magazine that instigated this very interesting thread.

[Hogarthde]

Order of reading ? 1Bulldog beauty

2 Oversize

3 Highland Veteran

4Vitamin E

5 Best of Mates

6. 70 Years of Land Rover

Dave

[V8Ian]

I went for the Land Rover bit first.

[Hogarthde]

That’s the spirit Ian, try not to get too involved in the trucks for sale. Although I can visualise you and ‘er indoors cavorting around the dusty inland roads in the ‘48 Octopus
.

[V8Ian]

Dave, apart from your Isle we've "cavorted" all over this vast brown land, albeit, not in an Octopus. [bigrolf]
Mostly Western Star, a fair bit in a very honest 2670 and a bit in Volvos.