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Arapiles
11th January 2019, 09:19 PM
This rather beautiful D3 was up on Carsales earlier this week: [Edit - oops, see discussion below]

2009 Land Rover Discovery 3 SE Auto 4x4 MY09-SSE-AD-5835579 (https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/Land-Rover-Discovery-3-2009/SSE-AD-5835579/?Cr=0)

It was gone within a couple of days - I think that I showed it to my wife on Tuesday or Wednesday and it was gone on Thursday night.

You can't access all of the photos now, but the interior was also immaculate.

There was a similar car in SA last year which they also wanted $45k for, but this one was much nicer - diesel rather than petrol, later model, lower ks, higher spec and just generally cleaner.

101RRS
11th January 2019, 10:53 PM
But it has been in a garage not a barn, so why is it a Barn Find?

Arapiles
11th January 2019, 11:05 PM
But it has been in a garage not a barn, so why is it a Barn Find?

The garage was metaphorically a barn.

DiscoJeffster
11th January 2019, 11:05 PM
But it has been in a garage not a barn, so why is it a Barn Find?

Ah Gary. You’re the life of the party 🥳[emoji23]
Says me saying show me evidence [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

IndusD4
12th January 2019, 04:38 AM
It looked like it needed a wash in these (https://www.manheim.com.au/damaged-vehicles/Item/ItemUnavailable?itemID=000000000005178662) photos.

Arapiles
12th January 2019, 11:20 AM
It looked like it needed a wash in these (https://www.manheim.com.au/damaged-vehicles/Item/ItemUnavailable?itemID=000000000005178662) photos.

OK ... "elderly father used very rarely" doesn't really line up with "Malicious/Vandalised - Entire". I'm going to guess that the Ks aren't correct either. That may be why it is no longer available.

I did wonder in passing why someone's elderly father would buy a 7 seater 4WD. Caveat emptor. What tipped you off?

How much of this stuff is out there?

IndusD4
12th January 2019, 12:03 PM
Nothing really, just google the VIN. My daughter bought a Holden Cruze from a reputable dealer once to find when driving it home the odometer had been changed to miles. So the 56K KM was closer to 90K km. I googled the VIN then to find that it went through the same auction house twice where the first time it had 72K km on the odometer then the second 56K km (but was miles). So now whenever I look at a used car I do a search on the VIN.

Ron

Arapiles
12th January 2019, 12:14 PM
Nothing really, just google the VIN. My daughter bought a Holden Cruze from a reputable dealer once to find when driving it home the odometer had been changed to miles. So the 56K KM was closer to 90K km. I googled the VIN then to find that it went through the same auction house twice where the first time it had 72K km on the odometer then the second 56K km (but was miles). So now whenever I look at a used car I do a search on the VIN.

Ron

Yes, I usually do security searches, like the PPSR which should pick up that stuff. Last car we bought was a 6 year old Honda CR-V that had putatively done just 24,000 kms - but no service book and no explanation as to why not. That was a red flag, but Honda Australia were able to confirm the dates and Ks of its services with them and they'd all been at roughly the right intervals and were consistent with the car's total ks. Honda also provided for free a replacement service book with all of the services they'd done in it. I'd also just had the same model of CR-V for about 4 years and it had been faultless so we took a punt and bought it.

PerthDisco
12th January 2019, 12:22 PM
Usually the service history book is conveniently missing in these rare unicorns. That’s your first clue and a show stopper in any situation.

cuppabillytea
12th January 2019, 12:22 PM
OK ... "elderly father used very rarely" doesn't really line up with "Malicious/Vandalised - Entire". I'm going to guess that the Ks aren't correct either. That may be why it is no longer available.

I did wonder in passing why someone's elderly father would buy a 7 seater 4WD. Caveat emptor. What tipped you off?

How much of this stuff is out there?
Quite a lot, judging by my recent Jury duty. The shonks go to auction houses like flies to a honey pot. What transpires when a vehicle leaves there can be quite interesting.

4bee
12th January 2019, 12:34 PM
But it has been in a garage not a barn, so why is it a Barn Find?


Maybe Barney found it?[smilebigeye]

101RRS
12th January 2019, 01:29 PM
Who is Barney?

4bee
12th January 2019, 01:36 PM
Who is Barney?

Well my one is fictitious but it could be Barney Rubble or this one............

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8m3PCZft-tg)

Arapiles
12th January 2019, 01:38 PM
Quite a lot, judging by my recent Jury duty. The shonks go to auction houses like flies to a honey pot. What transpires when a vehicle leaves there can be quite interesting.

Also, same for grey-market imports. A couple of years ago we were going to buy an Elgrand and went to look at some recent imports. Every single one had been wildly wound back - the seller/importer had bodged the Japanese records they knew the meaning of, but the other docs in Japanese that they couldn't read and didn't understand showed the real kms. And I'd been suspicious in any case, because a search on Goo-net showed that there actually weren't many low Km cars around in Japan - whilst 10 years ago the Japanese might've turned their cars over at low ks, post-GFC they don't. And I'd also seen my family's cars conveniently get odo breakages when it was time to do the shaken (the very tough Japanese roadworthy test designed to make it easier to buy a new car than "repair" an older one).

cuppabillytea
12th January 2019, 02:25 PM
Also, same for grey-market imports. A couple of years ago we were going to buy an Elgrand and went to look at some recent imports. Every single one had been wildly wound back - the seller/importer had bodged the Japanese records they knew the meaning of, but the other docs in Japanese that they couldn't read and didn't understand showed the real kms. And I'd been suspicious in any case, because a search on Goo-net showed that there actually weren't many low Km cars around in Japan - whilst 10 years ago the Japanese might've turned their cars over at low ks, post-GFC they don't. And I'd also seen my family's cars conveniently get odo breakages when it was time to do the shaken (the very tough Japanese roadworthy test designed to make it easier to buy a new car than "repair" an older one).
Also: Buyer beware in NZ. All Insurance write-offs in NSW, automatically become statutory write-offs and cannot be registered in Australia, even though they may be reparable. They are bought at Auction and shipped OS, often to NZ.
Another example of shonk, is vehicles that have been driven into the ground, which are stripped for parts and their Identities transposed to a better example, which may have been written off or even stolen.