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Homestar
13th January 2019, 06:43 PM
Iím sure there is more than one other member here that likes other British iron, other than just Land Rovers. Well Iím certainly one of those and last week I went and did something about it. Always had a soft spot for Jags and was looking for something comfortable to drive on Sunny weekends when the fancy takes me.

To that end, (And letting the cat out of the bag a bit early) the below vehicle will be in my garage by this time next week. The current owner is getting a RWC on it this week, and final transaction will take place after this.

It it is a 1977 Series II - LWB, 4.6 6 Cylinder. Drives extremely well, 42,000km on the clock - yep - and verifiable. Original paint, interior, engine, everything. Just have to wait now which is killing me... 😁

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justinc
13th January 2019, 06:48 PM
Sooooo green right now...

Beautiful find mate!! Life is too short.

JC

Homestar
13th January 2019, 06:54 PM
Sooooo green right now...

Beautiful find mate!! Life is too short.

JC

My thoughts exactly. No point waiting IMO - was going to site tight for a bit, but couldnít pass this one up when I saw it. 😊

grey_ghost
13th January 2019, 06:57 PM
Love it. Beautiful colour, fantastic interior. SWMBO rekons itís gorgeous. [emoji1303][emoji3]

Homestar
13th January 2019, 06:58 PM
Love it. Beautiful colour, fantastic interior. SWMBO rekons itís gorgeous. [emoji1303][emoji3]

Will bring it up and take you both for a drive once I have it registered in my name. 👍

justinc
13th January 2019, 06:58 PM
I regret selling on the 2 Rover P6B 3500S rovers I had.. one still had the 10.25:1 engine.. a 1972 and a 1975.

Grumbles
13th January 2019, 08:00 PM
Iím sure there is more than one other member here that likes other British iron, other than just Land Rovers.

Yes yes yes. What a fantastic acquisition. [thumbsupbig]

It looks superb and I am so envious. Enjoy!!

101RRS
13th January 2019, 08:24 PM
IIt it is a 1977 Series II - LWB, 4.6 6 Cylinder.

That looks as if it is a nice car - will be a 4.2 not 4.6.

Garry

rangieman
13th January 2019, 09:24 PM
Well done Gav [thumbsupbig]
Yes im very jealous [tonguewink]

Homestar
14th January 2019, 06:37 AM
IIt it is a 1977 Series II - LWB, 4.6 6 Cylinder.

That looks as if it is a nice car - will be a 4.2 not 4.6.

Garry

Thanks - yes a 4.2 - typo. 😁

Pedro_The_Swift
14th January 2019, 06:42 AM
Well at least that solves which car gets the garage....



oh, yes. I did notice it had a towbar---[wink11]

Homestar
14th January 2019, 06:49 AM
Yep, garage will be the sole domain of the Jag. 👍 We are now setting up a temporary carport next to the garage to move the Series 3 into to make room. 😁. Will look at building that into a garage extension at some point I think and concreting it so tools and storage can go out there too, but thatís longer term.

Towbar will be coming off - I have no need to tow anything with it.

Bigbjorn
14th January 2019, 09:43 AM
Well done. Few Jags reach age 40 and the survivors are rarely in such good condition. The rust demon, electrical gremlins, high maintenance cost (which often meant no maintenance) and poor resale value usually had them off to the scrappies well before then.

DiscoMick
14th January 2019, 10:21 AM
Looks beautiful, and original. Lovely.

Grumbles
14th January 2019, 11:17 AM
Not wishing to put the mozz on your new glamorous old girl but how is the parts supply for these wonderfully unique machines? Is getting parts a drama or is it relatively easy? Available in Oz or is it back to the motherland?

Still can't believe how lucky and decisive you were over this car......you saw it and bought it.....great stuff.[thumbsupbig]

101RRS
14th January 2019, 11:26 AM
Parts are freely available in Aust from a few suppliers but like LR bits most are sourced from the UK - mainly SNG Barratt.

garry

Homestar
14th January 2019, 12:07 PM
Not wishing to put the mozz on your new glamorous old girl but how is the parts supply for these wonderfully unique machines? Is getting parts a drama or is it relatively easy? Available in Oz or is it back to the motherland?

Still can't believe how lucky and decisive you were over this car......you saw it and bought it.....great stuff.[thumbsupbig]

As Garry said - parts are generally readily available and not badly priced. Plenty of wrecks around too as a lot haven't made it this far. Exceptions are things like heads, OS pistons, etc if doing a full engine rebuild, trans is a 3 speed Borg Warner that is easy and relatively cheap to get rebuilt. Diff is pretty much unbreakable, wear components like brake and suspension parts are plentiful and cheap.

Wiring is Lucas so switches, etc can play up but not overly concerned with things like that - will fix those as they happen.

Can get most parts here in Oz over the counter.

Keeping the engine happy with good maintenance is the key to having one live a long life.

Pickles2
14th January 2019, 03:07 PM
Looks good Gav, yes, although not being particularly familiar with the brand, I did notice the "4.6" and thought you may have obtained a "special" of some description.
Anyway, congratulations, it looks like a lovely example. Do you have any plans for it, anything that needs immediate attention etc.
Being an old Pom, I've always liked the Jaguar brand, never owned one, but I drove a girlfriend's father's Mk V "Z Series" several times, and I did have a look at a 3.5L Mk 1V that I could've picked up for around a hundred quid in the sixties! My favorite would be an 3.8L XK150S Coupe. My best man's brother owned an E Type which I rode in a few times,...I can still remember looking over that long louvered bonnet!, Always nice to have a "toy" in the garage.
I wish you much enjoyment, Pickles.

cuppabillytea
14th January 2019, 03:35 PM
I'll tell you what you've done Gav. You have made me green with envy.

Homestar
14th January 2019, 04:54 PM
Looks good Gav, yes, although not being particularly familiar with the brand, I did notice the "4.6" and thought you may have obtained a "special" of some description.
Anyway, congratulations, it looks like a lovely example. Do you have any plans for it, anything that needs immediate attention etc.
Being an old Pom, I've always liked the Jaguar brand, never owned one, but I drove a girlfriend's father's Mk V "Z Series" several times, and I did have a look at a 3.5L Mk 1V that I could've picked up for around a hundred quid in the sixties! My favorite would be an 3.8L XK150S Coupe. My best man's brother owned an E Type which I rode in a few times,...I can still remember looking over that long louvered bonnet!, Always nice to have a "toy" in the garage.
I wish you much enjoyment, Pickles.

Thanks mate - no immediate plans - it is pretty immaculate and comes with a RWC so hopefully nothing to do short term. I do know the LH tank isnít working - this could be just the switch, fuel pump or something worse - donít know yet, so there is that to sort. Maybe also fitting a new electric antenna for the radio rather than the one thatís on it although reading up on this that is a PITA job - sounds like quite a few things are on these cars. 😁

Will also be speaking to the Mechanic whoís been working on this for the last few years to see if the gearbox has been serviced - there was no detail on this so I suspect not, but being an old Borg Warner, Iíll do that myself anyway. I have a friend with a hoist. 👍😁

Will know more when I get it home - hopefully Wednesday or Thursday evening. Will take the long way home to get a better feel for it. 👍

rick130
15th January 2019, 06:36 AM
Noice Gav, or should we call you 'Guv now? [emoji23]

JDNSW
15th January 2019, 03:42 PM
Noice Gav, or should we call you 'Guv now? [emoji23]

In 1973 I visited a cousin living on the outskirts of London, and for some reason I had to drive his Jag (similar to this, even same colour) round the the suburbs for a few miles. One of the things that I really noticed was the way that police tipped their cap to me!

They did not do that in my brother's Citroen Dyane!

LRJim
15th January 2019, 04:13 PM
Only thing its missing is 6 cylinder's 🤣🤣 nah I love it mate, as it looks like the previous owner did also!
I remember my grandpa had 2 XJR'S? V12's when I was kid. V12, leather everywhere, 2 doors so it was a squeeze for 3 of us in the back, a bonnet that you couldn't see the end of. Even though they were fairly old and ratty, I thought they were the coolest cars I'd ever seen. I have no idea what happened to them, i remember them getting sold but i dont know to who. He never done anything with them, im pretty sure he sold them to someone who wanted to restore them. He even had the plates to match XJRV12 wicked!
Ive got a badge laying around an old steering wheel from them still.
I'll ask my old lady if shes got some photos of them.
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Homestar
15th January 2019, 05:28 PM
Now I just need a set of leather driving gloves, flat cap and a tweed jacket with elbow patches... 😆

grey_ghost
15th January 2019, 05:38 PM
Do you want to borrow my Pith Helmet to go with the rest of your outfit... Oh and you need a pipe..

Bigbjorn
15th January 2019, 06:10 PM
Now I just need a set of leather driving gloves, flat cap and a tweed jacket with elbow patches... 😆

Only if you want to be known as one of the poseurs from the vintage sports car club.

The pommy Jag rep. we had at Leyland in the 70's reckoned they were sales managers cars.[bigsmile]

DieselDan
15th January 2019, 07:15 PM
Very, very nice Gav!!

If you do need any parts or work doing to it, Fred Smith in Bayswater might be worth contacting.
If there's anything he's slightly more batty about than landies, it would be old Jags!

gromit
16th January 2019, 07:17 AM
Just need a camel coat, a trilby and a big cigar and you'll look like Arthur Daley

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cars/images/2016/02/22/Daimler-Soveriegn-Arthur-Da_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqqVzuuqpFlyLIwiB6NTmJwfSVWeZ_v EN7c6bHu2jJnT8.jpg?imwidth=480



Colin

Pickles2
16th January 2019, 09:01 AM
Now I just need a set of leather driving gloves, flat cap and a tweed jacket with elbow patches... 😆
"Stringbacks" are what you need,..woven "string" uppers & leather bottom (wheel contact)!!.."olde worlde",...like me!
Pickles.

Homestar
16th January 2019, 06:27 PM
One more sleep hopefully. Went in for its RWC today but it failed on a suspension bush somewhere or something - the current owner couldnít remember what it was once heíd spoken to the Mechanic. 😁. Heíll have replaced tomorrow with some luck, but if he gets it home late arvo, not sure how Iíll pick it up as my Son works late tomorrow night.

Scottish_lion
17th January 2019, 06:48 AM
That is beautiful. The colour is amazing!
Looks in great condition, definitely one to have jumped on. I canít deal with the whitewalls, but thatís just my taste.

jagrov
17th January 2019, 07:24 AM
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INter674
17th January 2019, 07:25 AM
Had one of these for 2 years..was a great car to drive and the wife loved it..drove it to school everyday. Being much younger I tested out it's handling and was amazed how good a drift car it was☺

Used to belong to a UK business and was chauffeur driven so I was told. The jag also prepared me well for LRs with many issues I could not afford to manage..so it had to go to a better home..ending up with a tech entrepreneur who spend a small fortune on it!

It even won a concours de elegance with my first home respray ..British racing green of course!

I miss that car soooo much😐

donh54
17th January 2019, 08:41 AM
Now I just need a set of leather driving gloves, flat cap and a tweed jacket with elbow patches... [emoji38]

And a bucket of used teabags you can throw at the less fortunate, as you cruise past them in cosseted comfort, with a bellowed "Get away from my Jag, you teabagger!"

theelms66
17th January 2019, 08:54 AM
Had a series II v12 in my earlier years. Drank unbelievably. So decided to drop in the mild (mmm) 350 sbc and t400 tranny. Left everything else stock hub caps , exhaust tips etc. But boy did it up a smile on my dial when I'd leave my follow motorists at the lights.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 09:04 AM
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Very nice! Thanks for posting these. Welcome to the forum. 👍😊

Not sure where in Vic you are but if youíre close enough maybe we could take the Jags out for a run together one fine day...

Homestar
17th January 2019, 09:05 AM
That is beautiful. The colour is amazing!
Looks in great condition, definitely one to have jumped on. I canít deal with the whitewalls, but thatís just my taste.

Yeah, the white walls wouldnít have been my first choice either, but I donít hate them. Given that they are brand new, Iíll have to live with them for a while yet.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 09:09 AM
Had a series II v12 in my earlier years. Drank unbelievably. So decided to drop in the mild (mmm) 350 sbc and t400 tranny. Left everything else stock hub caps , exhaust tips etc. But boy did it up a smile on my dial when I'd leave my follow motorists at the lights.

There are still a lot out there with the 350 Chevy in them - It was a common conversion back in the day like a Holden red motor is to a series. I test drove one and it went very well, but the overall condition wasnít close to this one.

Havent even looked to see what fuel consumption figures are on the 4.2 - Iím guessing not great, but I run 2 V8 Land Rovers as well so fuel usage wasnít high on my list of priorities. 😁

Iíll do what I do with the 101 - fill it up and enjoy driving it until I need to find another servo. 👍

theelms66
17th January 2019, 09:10 AM
Hey. Homestar as for your left fuel tank not working. Mine were a PITA they run left and right SU fuel pumps and the contacts burn out .u thump with your fist usually gets them ticking away.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 09:12 AM
Hey. Homestar as for your left fuel tank not working. Mine were a PITA they run left and right SU fuel pumps and the contacts burn out .u thump with your fist usually gets them ticking away.

Thatís one of the first things I want to fix when I get it home. Hoping it is something electrical and not a tank with a hole in it, etc but given the overall condition of the vehicle, I think itís just electrics. Also been told the switch inside fails too. Iíll try banging the fuel pump first. 👍😁

Pedro_The_Swift
17th January 2019, 09:15 AM
do they make new ones to suit? or go external?

fredd63
17th January 2019, 09:29 AM
Very nice find, you will enjoy it. Had a series1 for about 5 years, then a series2 like yours, as family cars. They are reliable with regular maintenance. If it still has a distributor with points, keep an eye on them, because the material in the rubbing block is not as tough as the old ones, and wears quickly, causing the car not to start when hot. Good idea to carry a spare. Fuel tank not working is probably the points in the electric fuel pump, either adjustment or replacement....easy job. Could also be the tank has rusted and won't hold petrol. The left/right change over switch just activates the relevant pump, which feeds through a t-piece to a common pipe; you can see it at the front of the spare wheel well. The valves in the fuel pump stop fuel pumping from one side to the other. They are just bits of plastic, available and easy fix. Ask PO if he had car rustproofed, but check the sills anyway; they went on mine before I could stop it. That red pipe across the top of the motor is part of the carb air pre-heat. It should have a heat proof pipe connecting it to the air intake in front of the filter. Good idea if you live in cold climate as motor is slow to warm up. They are a joy to drive, email me if you want more info.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 10:04 AM
do they make new ones to suit? or go external?

No idea to be honest - havenít got that far. If no one makes one it would need to be custom made to fit where it currently goes - there isnít a space at the back for anything off the shelf. I think between the tanks thereís 95 litres so a decent amount.

Have a workshop manual on the way too so will see what I can glean from that.

FisherX
17th January 2019, 10:06 AM
Nice one Gav, she looks a treat and I love that interior.

Mine is silver with the black interior and the detail gets lost in all that black. Great car to drive.

They are not too hard to work on and most mechanical parts are easy to come by from the motherland.

Mine had a bit of rust in it so check the front crossmember and the bottom of the windscreen on the passenger side and get lots of fish oil into it.

MarkinMaine
17th January 2019, 10:09 AM
Such a sweet ride. Please, Please. Please get that silly antenna off that beautiful car. Thanks
Mark

33chinacars
17th January 2019, 10:17 AM
Lucky Bugger , Gav [thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig]


Here's my new wheels 147561

Phideaux
17th January 2019, 11:58 AM
You got one with 42,000 verifiable km? Wow.
Owning a Jaguar is sort of like a rite-of-passage. You love it, they're sometimes unreliable, you forgive it when it suddenly goes and runs as it should.
I think mine was in worse nick underneath than I knew - linkages and things - I never got to find out because for Christmas in 2002 someone stole it. I got paid out - more than it was worth, except for the dashboard, which was probably half the value of the car! (Irreplaceable walnut and those big clumsy goofy buttons). It was found much later... Tyres (new) slashed.
Traps for young players:
* If it hasn't got a cruise control, get one! - if your speedo cable breaks you'll find you were doing 150kph.
* If it's got electric fans next to the radiator, check that they are pulling, not pushing?
* shock-absorbers at the back - brilliant design - are vital. There's four of them on the back end.
* don't link the two petrol tanks. For some reason it causes problems.
* Those triangulated struts under the bonnet to the shock absorber towers are essential. (I didn't do this - but driving it for any distance or enthusiastically without them attached - chassis things bend. So I was told...) They're also the first thing you remove if you're going to do any work on it.
* a LWB with good rear shocks - if you've got a 100km trip with 4 adults who like a quiet chat - it's the correct tool for the job.

Pace with grace - enjoy!

Phideaux

Pickles2
17th January 2019, 02:00 PM
Phideaux, You have reminded me of the old Jaguar "Slogan",...."Grace, Space, & Pace". Haven't seen it for many years though.
Pickles.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 03:22 PM
Please, Please. Please get that silly antenna off that beautiful car. Thanks
Mark

Was the first thing I mentioned to the current owner, and it will be gone by the weekend. [smilebigeye]

Homestar
17th January 2019, 03:27 PM
You got one with 42,000 verifiable km? Wow.
Owning a Jaguar is sort of like a rite-of-passage. You love it, they're sometimes unreliable, you forgive it when it suddenly goes and runs as it should.
I think mine was in worse nick underneath than I knew - linkages and things - I never got to find out because for Christmas in 2002 someone stole it. I got paid out - more than it was worth, except for the dashboard, which was probably half the value of the car! (Irreplaceable walnut and those big clumsy goofy buttons). It was found much later... Tyres (new) slashed.
Traps for young players:
* If it hasn't got a cruise control, get one! - if your speedo cable breaks you'll find you were doing 150kph.
* If it's got electric fans next to the radiator, check that they are pulling, not pushing?
* shock-absorbers at the back - brilliant design - are vital. There's four of them on the back end.
* don't link the two petrol tanks. For some reason it causes problems.
* Those triangulated struts under the bonnet to the shock absorber towers are essential. (I didn't do this - but driving it for any distance or enthusiastically without them attached - chassis things bend. So I was told...) They're also the first thing you remove if you're going to do any work on it.
* a LWB with good rear shocks - if you've got a 100km trip with 4 adults who like a quiet chat - it's the correct tool for the job.

Pace with grace - enjoy!

Phideaux

Thanks for that. KM do appear to be genuine from all the research I've done but not 100% sure - it's only been owned by the Original Owner, their Mechanic and the current owner. At the end of the day, I was happy to part with what they were asking for what I'm getting be that good bad or otherwise.

No cruise control - it was one of the things I've thought about as I found it hard to keep the speed consistent when driving it - it seems to want to sit around 120...

Current shocks seem fine - it's like driving a magic carpet. [smilebigeye]

Will know more on the weekend as I pick it up tomorrow night.

geoman
17th January 2019, 03:44 PM
Iím sure there is more than one other member here that likes other British iron, other than just Land Rovers. Well Iím certainly one of those and last week I went and did something about it. Always had a soft spot for Jags and was looking for something comfortable to drive on Sunny weekends when the fancy takes me.

To that end, (And letting the cat out of the bag a bit early) the below vehicle will be in my garage by this time next week. The current owner is getting a RWC on it this week, and final transaction will take place after this.

It it is a 1977 Series II - LWB, 4.6 6 Cylinder. Drives extremely well, 42,000km on the clock - yep - and verifiable. Original paint, interior, engine, everything. Just have to wait now which is killing me... [emoji16]

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https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7891/31744031107_7458c0cadd_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Qn7sva)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Qn7sva) by Gavin Gregory (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150806513@N06/), on Flickr
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4834/39758479573_76938d5a7d_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/23zjAP8)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/23zjAP8) by Gavin Gregory (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150806513@N06/), on FlickrWhat a lovely jag, well done [emoji106]

donh54
17th January 2019, 03:51 PM
Hanging out for the report on the trip home!

Homestar
17th January 2019, 04:39 PM
Hanging out for the report on the trip home!

You and me both! It's ready waiting for me now - with RWC but I can't get there until tomorrow night!!! Son is working late tonight...

Bigbjorn
17th January 2019, 05:32 PM
Had a series II v12 in my earlier years. Drank unbelievably. So decided to drop in the mild (mmm) 350 sbc and t400 tranny. Left everything else stock hub caps , exhaust tips etc. But boy did it up a smile on my dial when I'd leave my follow motorists at the lights.

I did several Chev conversions in the 80's when I had a small machine shop. 2 x 350, 1 x HiPo 327 ex a ski racer, 1 x Chrysler 340 to TA spec, and 1 x Chrysler Hemi 6 265. All used TH400 transmissions. The Hemi 6 was a good swap. Smaller and much lighter than the Jag 6. Emission control camshaft chucked away, Rochester 4 barrel, split headers from a CM. Usual head cleanout. Around 280-300 hp. Went very well. All of these were so much lighter than the Jag engine the power steering was disconnected. The Jaguar engine is quite bulky and heavy.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 05:46 PM
The 265 Hemi sounds like a better idea than a 350 Chev IMO. Great engine.

grey_ghost
17th January 2019, 05:51 PM
You should swing by Wandong on your way home....

Homestar
17th January 2019, 05:55 PM
You should swing by Wandong on your way home....

As much as I'd like to do that - not sure Wandong is 'The most direct route' from where it is now to home - which the permit specifies. [biggrin]

Could always tell Mr Plod that it doesn't have GPS so I got lost...

mick88
17th January 2019, 06:11 PM
Nice looking bus you picked up Gav.
A few of my mates have owned them over the years and they have brilliant braking and handling.

Cheers, Mick.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 06:14 PM
24 hours to go... I'm dying here....

grey_ghost
17th January 2019, 06:51 PM
You and me both! I feel like a surrogate mother! NFIW!?

Bigbjorn
17th January 2019, 07:58 PM
The 265 Hemi sounds like a better idea than a 350 Chev IMO. Great engine.

It was a good driver and fast. The Chrysler 340TA was the best of the ones I did. Revved like a turbine. The HiPo 327 needed a higher stall converter to get it up on the cam. It had a 1960's solid lifter "Duntov" cam which I still believe was the best camshaft ever in an SBC, after marketeers all included. &000 rpm without a hiccup. It was a rocket ship if you got your boot into it.

Homestar, if you are having fuel pump problems, throw the SU pumps in the rubbish bin. They are junk, always were and always will be. Look at fuel systems on the Speedway Motors site. The Yanks do these small items so well and so well priced.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 08:04 PM
Thanks - was wondering what other pumps may be better - youíre the second person to tell me they are rubbish. 👍

101RRS
17th January 2019, 08:33 PM
The last thing you want to do with old banger like this is start changing things and making it "unoriginal" - just change to the electronic version of the SU pumps. The issue of the original pumps is the points system and not the pump itself - like points ignition, changing over to an electronic system makes the pump very reliable.

My pump is original and is now 38 years old and still runs fine but I changed it to electronic control - this was before electronic versions were produced. Works fine.

Like LRs - go onto the Jag forums and find out what you should be doing.

As far as the Chevs into Jags - is a bit like the Holden into a Series LR - maybe a good idea at the time but destroyed values in the long term. The only way to do it was to "hot rod" the car so was really no longer a Jag but a car for Summernats.

Wherever feasible - keep the car original and do subtle performance improves that do not detract from its value. Series 2 values hit bottom a while back and good examples are on the way back up so if looked after you cannot loose.

Garry

Homestar
17th January 2019, 08:59 PM
It was a Jag forum that first mentioned ditching them. Will look over them and what makes them tick but a component that improves reliability wonít hurt the value of the vehicle. The pumps and what makes them tick are more than 40 years old now - if they need doing they need doing and a modern, reliable replacement makes more sense - the same as I would in my 101 for such things.

DiscoMick
17th January 2019, 09:02 PM
Don't change it - that will lower it's value. Keep it original and just get it fixed.

Homestar
17th January 2019, 09:31 PM
Itís not a million dollar one off hand built supercar...

Homestar
18th January 2019, 12:06 PM
Appreciate everyone's concern about keeping it original, and forgive my blunt reply last night - I was pretty tired but no excuse really - but we are talking about a fuel pump or two here - that lives under a cover, under a mat, in the boot. I will be looking at the original units and will keep them short term, but if I can improve reliability with something so simple - even if it's not original, then why wouldn't I? I'm not pulling the engine out or anything.

The entire fuel system is the first thing I'll be looking at in detail to get the second tank on line, so will report back once I've given it a once over. [smilebigeye]

6 hours until I pick it up...

Bigbjorn
18th January 2019, 01:07 PM
Here ia a link.

Air & Fuel Delivery - Free Shipping @ Speedway Motors (https://www.speedwaymotors.com/shop/muscle-car-air-and-fuel-delivery~65666-1-949-12?utm_source=marketing&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=musclemc0818&utm_content=airandfuel)

rangieman
18th January 2019, 04:24 PM
Appreciate everyone's concern about keeping it original, and forgive my blunt reply last night - I was pretty tired but no excuse really - but we are talking about a fuel pump or two here - that lives under a cover, under a mat, in the boot. I will be looking at the original units and will keep them short term, but if I can improve reliability with something so simple - even if it's not original, then why wouldn't I? I'm not pulling the engine out or anything.

The entire fuel system is the first thing I'll be looking at in detail to get the second tank on line, so will report back once I've given it a once over. [smilebigeye]

6 hours until I pick it up...
Mate water off a ducks back [wink11]
Shove a 454 in it and get it going properly stuff the purists [bigwhistle]

101RRS
18th January 2019, 04:44 PM
It was a Jag forum that first mentioned ditching them. Will look over them and what makes them tick but a component that improves reliability wonít hurt the value of the vehicle. The pumps and what makes them tick are more than 40 years old now - if they need doing they need doing and a modern, reliable replacement makes more sense - the same as I would in my 101 for such things.

Yes it is called the electronic SU fuel pump.

Homestar
18th January 2019, 05:11 PM
Yes it is called the electronic SU fuel pump.

Iíve had several recommendations not just the newer SUís. Apart from the early expensive stuff like E types, most Jaguar people Iíve spoken to arenít nearly the rivet counters that Land Rover folk seem to be. They seem happy to discuss any and all mods to most vehicles and provide advise around such things.

Phideaux
18th January 2019, 05:47 PM
Mate water off a ducks back [wink11]
Shove a 454 in it and get it going properly stuff the purists [bigwhistle]

A Jag specialist mentioned to me once: "I get guys in here with an extracted motor, 'what will you give me for it?' I say, '$100 - maybe? If you'd left it in the car, let me test it before it was removed - maybe several times that.'

Those motors are(!) heavy. Even lifting the head off them needs an engine jack. Even so, they're hard not to like - that long-stroking note... And the sheer mass combined with the original spec spring-rates is one of the secrets to the 'ride'.

EFI - if done properly - transformed their reliability. As did ditching all 'Lucas' electricals in favour of Bosch.

Homestar
18th January 2019, 07:09 PM
Well Iím safely home with the Jag - need to think of a name for it now...

A quick 40KM romp home that proved effortless for the engine - I like it a lot already. Not an outright powerhouse but heaps of torque makes it get along real easy.

Tommorrow Iíll go over it with a fine tooth comb. Well at least the petrol tank question has been answered - itís full so I know it doesnít leak. The PO filled it when he first got it and found it didnít work. Will ditch the fuel thatís in it but at least it isnít rusty!

I pressed the switch to check the fuel pump - no sound, but also the fuel gauge dropped to empty so unless thereís something wrong with the sender (distinct possibility) then Iím thinking the switch may be at fault. Iíll whip it out in the morning and have a play.

Off to the Jag forum now to ask some questions, but Iíll also ask them here too as I go as it seems we have a few clues up members here too. 👍😊

rangieman
18th January 2019, 07:13 PM
A Jag specialist mentioned to me once: "I get guys in here with an extracted motor, 'what will you give me for it?' I say, '$100 - maybe? If you'd left it in the car, let me test it before it was removed - maybe several times that.'

Those motors are(!) heavy. Even lifting the head off them needs an engine jack. Even so, they're hard not to like - that long-stroking note... And the sheer mass combined with the original spec spring-rates is one of the secrets to the 'ride'.

EFI - if done properly - transformed their reliability. As did ditching all 'Lucas' electricals in favour of Bosch.
Don`t get me wrong i have driven a couple of these that were fuel injected [thumbsupbig]

Id have one in a heart beat and as a cruiser they excel and i do like the six pot but id be very guilty of a major heart transplant if i ever felt the need to own one[bigwhistle]

Homestar
18th January 2019, 07:35 PM
A Jag specialist mentioned to me once: "I get guys in here with an extracted motor, 'what will you give me for it?' I say, '$100 - maybe? If you'd left it in the car, let me test it before it was removed - maybe several times that.'

Those motors are(!) heavy. Even lifting the head off them needs an engine jack. Even so, they're hard not to like - that long-stroking note... And the sheer mass combined with the original spec spring-rates is one of the secrets to the 'ride'.

EFI - if done properly - transformed their reliability. As did ditching all 'Lucas' electricals in favour of Bosch.

Will be fixing some of the wiring to make it more reliable - mainly relays, etc. Will keep the carbs - I have no issues looking after these and it keeps life simple IMO. Will upgrade the ignition to electronic but thatís about it I think. It will only be doing fine weekend work and club runs, shows etc.

First show is next weekend - the David Calleja Memorial Car Show - David Calleja Memorial Car Show (https://www.showandrally.com.au/home)

If anyoneís coming along they can look at it in the flesh. 👍

Roverlord off road spares
19th January 2019, 08:37 AM
Ah gotta love jags, on of the big wigs of the old CBA bank had one as a company car. He and his body guard/driver would go out every week on a business trip and on return only the body guard/driver would come back with the Jag on a flatbed. True story.

Homestar
19th January 2019, 10:09 AM
I have RACV Total Care for a reason... [biggrin]

pop058
19th January 2019, 10:32 AM
Yes it is called the electronic SU fuel pump.

IIRC the newer electronic version of the SU pump is nearly a direct swap out, old for new. I also recall from one of the Rover forums that one of the new electronic pumps even has an (artificial) tick so it sounds like the original.

Like others, I would love an old Jag.

grey_ghost
19th January 2019, 12:49 PM
Well I have seen the beast in person and itís even nicer up close. Well done Gav and a great buy. [emoji1303]

Homestar
19th January 2019, 02:04 PM
So found the fuel gauge issue - wire had popped off the back of the sender and once reattached works fine. Also getting 12 volts to the pump but it isnít working and has a very high resistance compared to the other side - which has been replaced as the wiring look from the pump is quite new by comparison to the rest of the wiring so it shows these pumps are a known issue. Thankfully with 2 of them thereís a nice bit of redundancy built in. Will pull the stuffed one out tomorrow and see if I can coax it back to life for the time being while I get new ones.

Also found 2 Ďspareí wires behind the tail light where the sender lives - anyone got any ideas - Iíve posted this on the Jag forum too. Looks like they went to another globe at some point but no idea what.

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Homestar
19th January 2019, 02:16 PM
Well what do you know - ratting through a parts bin I found a brand new Facet pump sitting there ready for the Series 3. Might bang that in tomorrow and see what it does.

Homestar
19th January 2019, 03:00 PM
And another wiring issue found and fixed - previous owner had a Ďretro radioí installed and it sounded really funny - changed a few setting to get it to sound better and found the installer had wired both the front right and rear right speakers to the front 2 which are the only ones working... Iíve got stereo sound now... 😁. Not sure I like the unit though, itís pretty cheap and tacky. Might see if I can find a nice old tape deck to go in there...

Homestar
20th January 2019, 11:10 AM
Well, looks like we were all wrong regarding the fuel pumps. The late Series 2ís used in tank pumps. Followed my nose and found a cover behind the back wheel - removed cover and thereís a lock ring holding the pump assembly into the side of the tank - after draining the tank, whipped this out and looks similar to the in tank pumps on many other cars Iíve worked on held onto a frame like they are. Will chase up a similar one next week. 👍

Pickles2
20th January 2019, 11:28 AM
Sounds like you are having fun Gav, exploring the "Intricacies" of your new "toy", and it looks like you're pretty handy at sorting stuff!
Enjoy, Pickles.

trackless
20th January 2019, 08:52 PM
We had a S11 V12 LWB in the same colour for years.
Rebuilt the engine when we lived in Canberra. Had it in the family room, too cold outside!
Loved it with all its little problems, none of which were too hard to fix. One must remember that before doing anything on them one must do something else first. As in to open the bonnet the door needs to be opened first. Once you get used to that idea the rest follows.
Try changing the rear hand brake pads!!

3 Lions
21st January 2019, 03:44 PM
Iím sure there is more than one other member here that likes other British iron, other than just Land Rovers. Well Iím certainly one of those and last week I went and did something about it. Always had a soft spot for Jags and was looking for something comfortable to drive on Sunny weekends when the fancy takes me.

To that end, (And letting the cat out of the bag a bit early) the below vehicle will be in my garage by this time next week. The current owner is getting a RWC on it this week, and final transaction will take place after this.

It it is a 1977 Series II - LWB, 4.6 6 Cylinder. Drives extremely well, 42,000km on the clock - yep - and verifiable. Original paint, interior, engine, everything. Just have to wait now which is killing me... [emoji16]

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Homestar
21st January 2019, 04:33 PM
Thanks mate - havenít seen you here for a while, hope all is well in your world. 😊

Got the new Club plates today and they are on the car now. For those wondering what happens when the Vic club plates get to 99999-H - I now know the answer. They have started a new series starting 0000-H1, 0000-H2, 0000-H3 etc. My new ones are 0027-H2. More strange plate formats to remember.

pop058
21st January 2019, 05:55 PM
Thanks mate - havenít seen you here for a while, hope all is well in your world. 😊

Got the new Club plates today and they are on the car now. For those wondering what happens when the Vic club plates get to 99999-H - I now know the answer. They have started a new series starting 0000-H1, 0000-H2, 0000-H3 etc. My new ones are 0027-H2. More strange plate formats to remember.

In the sunny state, we can put custom/personal plates on club registered vehicles.

Homestar
21st January 2019, 08:16 PM
In the sunny state, we can put custom/personal plates on club registered vehicles.

Yeah, but down here we don't need to be on a club run to use them. :) 90 days free for all for just over $100.

Homestar
20th March 2019, 03:31 PM
So today was the day to take a really good look over the Jag before a big club run on Sunday - that will be around 300KM so itís longest run with me behind the wheel. Started easy with a service, oil and filter no dramas, but she swallows 8.5 litres of oil so my 8 litre oil pan was... umm... quite full after I drained the sump. 😇

Checked the fuel system over - there are small screens in the side of each carby as well as a small inline fuel filter which was changed. I donít think the carby screens had been out for a loooong time as they were badly blocked up. All cleaned and back together, checked hoses, belts, etc. nothing to get in a twist about there.

Then thought Iíd try and get it to idle a bit better - itís always been a bit lumpy at idle although it revs freely and has enough power to get it up to... Letís just say above 100 and leave it at that. So, basic checks first before I went near a carby. Checked plugs - not great, but ok, decided to check spark while I had one out - hmmm, pretty **** weak yellow spark, but it is a points dizzy, 40 year old car, so off with the dizzy cap to check point, etc. To my surprise someone has installed an electronic ignition kit in it (yay!) But why such a weak spark then? Looked inside the dizzy cap and found the answer - the carbon spring loaded button in the middle is gone - found it in the dizzy, coated in crud so itís been there a while.

Will grab a new one in the morning - British Car Components have one on the shelf, so will be interesting to see how much of improvement a decent spark makes. 😊

Pulled the old bit of carbon out of the dizzy so it didnít end up somewhere it shouldnít, back on with the cap and it still fires straight up even with a blackened burnt out bit where the carbon is supposed to live - I really wonder how long itís been like this?

Also found and fixed a couple of small vacuum leaks - the small vac lines have all hardened where they connect to things, so shortened them and refitted which made them tighter. Will grab some new stuff tomorrow as well.

Thereís a very small coolant leak I identified early on, but tightening the hose clamp hasnít seemed to fix it. The whole thermostat housing will have to come off to replace the small hose under this that connects the water pump to the thermostat housing - my guess is this one was in the Ďtoo hard basketí when they did the other hoses. Will grab some gaskets for that too.

Oh, before all this fixed a split return hose on the power steering so I could move it without being drowned in dextron III as that crapped itself when moving it just before Corowa.

All in all, nothing under the bonnet is giving me anything too much to worry about - the rocker covers leak a bit, think the rear main does too, and the trans has a small leak at the front dripping a bit out the bellhousing, so may pull the trans at some point over Winter and fix these and see what the Borg Warner 35 might need internally while Iím at it.

Will report back tomorrow night on the improvements a properly working dizzy cap bring. 👍😊

Homestar
20th March 2019, 03:49 PM
Oh, and is anyone familiar with these 4.2 engines as far as timing goes? Static timing should be 8 degrees BTDC - do they take a bit more like the Landy V8ís? The North American spec is 10 degrees, not sure why the difference but Iím guessing that wonít hurt. Just wondering if anyoneís played with them much?

Homestar
22nd March 2019, 03:24 PM
So, a properly working dizzy cap has made a great difference, as youíd expect. Changed plugs, cap and rotor button. Plugs all looked fine and even but a bit black which confirmed my thoughts it was running rich (you could smell it too).

Checked static timing - a bit of a pain with an electronic module as you donít get the spark a set of points gives you when doing this, but a faint click can be heard - set it to about 9 degrees BTDC - it was very close to this anyway. Spec is 8 degrees for the low compression engines and 10 for the USA spec high comp engines, so split the difference. 👍

Once these things were all done, killed 2 birds with one stone and pulled the rocker covers to fix slight leaks, and to check tapped clearance (even though I wasnít go as far as to fix any that were out). Found only one out of spec - number 2 inlet is a tad wide at 0.4mm (spec is 0.3 to 0.35) so thatís probably the one I can hear. PITA of a job to re shim it, so Iíll let it go for now, all the others were in spec soma good clean of the mating surfaces, some hylomar on the new gaskets and hopefully that will keep the leaks at bay from the top end for a week or two... 😉

Pulled the air cleaner assembly off so I could tune the carbs now I was happy with everything else. Front carb was waaaaaaaaay out of whack - blind and deaf Freddy could have heard it. Balanced them by ear and set the mixtures as best I could (will take it in for a proper tune at a place recommended soon) But I got the idle much smoother although not perfect - think Iíve got a small vacuum leak too but couldnít track it down.

Back together with everything and took it for a test run - gave it a fair bit of stick to burn some oil off the exhaust manifold and to see how it went - and it goes very well. Probably a fraction more power than before but a lot smoother through the rev range and it seems to kick down to second a bit easier now - really had to sink the boot in before. Maybe Iím imagining it, but it ran a bit cooler too - didnít get it over the ĎNí in ĎNormalí which it hasnít sat at before. Even gave the AC a blast but it was a beautiful ĎWindows Downí afternoon yestereday - about 28 degrees, very comfortable motoring.

So, think Iím happy enough to take it on a long run this weekend - Iíll report back Sunday night to let you know how it went...

Homestar
22nd March 2019, 03:31 PM
Almost forgot - have seen another Jag just around the corner at times, and yesterday when out for a run, it was parked near a house (the one in the background of the pic is where it lives). The owner was sweeping out his garage so I pulled up behind his and went for a chat - he was only too pleased to oblige me and we spent 20 minutes going over each otherís cars. His is also a series 2 - a couple of years older. He was given it by his son 9 years ago for his 60th Birthday and loves it (Nice Son eh?) 👍

We swapped phone numbers and heís going to give me a call next time he goes out for a Sunday drive and coffee. 👍

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Homestar
28th March 2019, 05:11 PM
Sooooo, what happened on the weekend I don't hear you ask, but I'll tell you anyway.

After spending 3 days working on the Jag going over it all, servicing and tuning it up, it was running beautifully. Took it for a decent run (about 80KM) on Saturday and it didn't miss a beat - got a bit warm through traffic heading home after going to the shops, so checked the viscous when I got home - engine was in the mid 90 degrees - it free wheeled - I suspected as much, but that's fine, as soon as you get going it drops back to the mid 80's. A job for another day.

Sunday arrives, I jump in it and start it up to go fill up ready for when Grey_ghost and missus grey_ghost got here about 11am and we head up to Ballarat for a club activity and evening meeting. Checked gauges - low oil pressure - about 10PSI ... WTF??? It's always sat on 40!

Check over everything, oil leaks, etc. Give the wire on the oil pressure sender a wiggle and I've got 40PSI back - good news, loose wire. Off I go to fill up, and back in the driveway no probs.

GG turns up so off we roar - I got around about 4 corners before the oil pressure gauge dropped to zero... Bugger, I know it's the sender so out again and wiggle some wires and find the top of the sender loose and a drip of oil near the terminal... No good, can't resurrect it this time, so I have to make the decision to either drive it around 300KM not knowing the oil pressure and always being worried about it, or cut my losses and head home for the Hilux...

If I'd done some decent KM in it I would have gone plan A, but never having driven it more than about 80KM in one hit, I didn't want to risk it and be paranoid all day if I'd sprung a leak etc, so a boring day driving the Hilux followed - had a great day with friends, and a great club meeting including home made pizza, but it would have been all the better if I'd been in the Jag - next time...

So, just finished fitting a new oil pressure sender - works great, and also a new viscous hub - turns out an early Range Rover hub is identical - I had an almost new one still on the shelf from when I replaced it on the 3.5 then swapped to the 3.9 only a few months later, so that's a decent saving. Not hard to fit and feels much better, so will see what it's like in traffic next time I'm out. Some say these vehicles have overheating issues and some say they don't. The fan is a huge 12 blade job, so with a new viscous hopefully all should be well - I think most people that encounter overheating don't try and get the coolant system back to proper working order, rather stick a set of thero fans on it and say they've fixed it. Given I've driven it on a 33 degree day on the highway with the AC going and it was fine - ran in the high 80's, I'm guessing overall the cooling package is suitable.

Hopefully that's all I need to do on the Jag for a while and I can just enjoy it, as the 101 is about to get a whole lot done to it - stay tuned on that thread for a bit of a run down there. [smilebigeye]

cooee
28th March 2019, 05:30 PM
hi Gav
love your xj6 classic [bigsmile1]real gentlemen car sure you will have many great sunday drives
cheers cooee[wink11]

Homestar
1st June 2019, 05:28 PM
Put a couple hundred KM on the big Cat today with a run up near Castlemaine with our car club. Was in good company - the car next to mine here is a rare Triumph GTR4 Dove - 1 of only 50 made. Only one was ever sold new in Australia - thatís undergoing a restoration in Melbourne currently. This one was imported and this club member did a ground up rebuild on it.

The Jag ran great although I do need to fix the choke on it now itís cooling down - wasnít particularly easy to start this morning. 😇

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grey_ghost
1st June 2019, 05:44 PM
Whereís the Rangie!? [emoji15]

Homestar
1st June 2019, 05:47 PM
Was a Skoda in the way... 😉

grey_ghost
1st June 2019, 05:49 PM
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Homestar
2nd June 2019, 02:52 PM
Took the Jag out again as it was a lovely sunny day. Even took Wes for a drive in it - he had a ball too. A man, his Jag and his Pug - perfect. 👍. Willow didnít want to come for a drive, and buggered off into the back yard when I got the dog leads out, so she missed out this time.

Got home just in the nick of time, heavy rain forecast and itís cutting up ugly. All back under its cover for the week. 7 day forecast shows good weather next weekend, hope that holds true and Iíll do it all again. 😊

grey_ghost
2nd June 2019, 02:59 PM
Excellent work. The Jag is lovely.

Homestar
8th June 2019, 05:57 PM
Another trip today - this time up to GG's 'Country Estate'. A good day out with mates just shootin' the breeze about all things automotive. [emoji106]
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Did a calc on fuel use after last weekends run (all highway) and it turned in 14 LP 100KM which I'm
Pretty impressed by. [emoji106]

POD
15th June 2019, 08:27 AM
Somehow I'd missed this thread altogether. Congratulations Gav on the beautiful Jag, I've loved them as long as I can remember. Nearly bought one years ago, maybe one day....
There was a brilliant scene in the series 'Mad Men' where one of the partners in the ad agency, who has a complimentary V12 E-type as part of a deal with the company, decides to end it all, he spends ages with his Jag, setting up a hose from the exhaust into the cab, wet towels to seal up all the gaps etc..then the thing won't start. An ironic dig from the yanks at the pommy cars of the era.

Homestar
23rd June 2019, 08:53 AM
Another sunny Sunday, another outing in the Jag - although today only as transport to help a mate get an engine back in a Kenworth. No point passing up an opportunity to cruise the highways and to keep things well lubricated and circulating. [emoji106]

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Homestar
14th January 2020, 09:07 AM
Well I finally got the Jag back in the garage on the weekend where it deserves to live. Went to put the window down and the switch fell apart in my hand and springs and contacts leapt out all over the place! Closer inspection showed the plastic pivots on the switch are gone so not really repairable. Given the window was half way down, I thought I would be smart and use the passenger side switch - pulled it out and connected it up and pressed the up button - and this one fell apart too... [bawl] (Insert expletive here about Lucas switches...)

So had to hotwire it to get the window up and now on the hunt for replacements...

British Car Components has been contacted and is looking for some as we speak. [biggrin]

pop058
14th January 2020, 09:41 AM
Are the switches common with any other breed ?

Phideaux
14th January 2020, 09:58 AM
Ian Warden, a Canberra Times columnist, once said something like
"owning an aging Jaguar is something like a rite of passage"
As a former Jaguar owner, I endorse this ... Those times when everything works perfectly, the drive in the country, the zoom from the lights... seem to make it worthwhile.
I'm sure there's some sort of pun in here about virginity loss and holding babies?
But my bottom-of-the-range Freelander 2 TD4 is equally comfy, more reliable by bucketloads (after 9 years), faster off the lights, has almost twice the towing capacity, and uses half the fuel...

But... do enjoy, do enjoy. The thing with Jaguars is one thinks of it not as driving, but motoring. Grace and pace definitely!

DoubleChevron
14th January 2020, 10:18 AM
Well I finally got the Jag back in the garage on the weekend where it deserves to live. Went to put the window down and the switch fell apart in my hand and springs and contacts leapt out all over the place! Closer inspection showed the plastic pivots on the switch are gone so not really repairable. Given the window was half way down, I thought I would be smart and use the passenger side switch - pulled it out and connected it up and pressed the up button - and this one fell apart too... [bawl] (Insert expletive here about Lucas switches...)

So had to hotwire it to get the window up and now on the hunt for replacements...

British Car Components has been contacted and is looking for some as we speak. [biggrin]

Just wait until you old an old french car ...... or 10 [bighmmm]

Tins
14th January 2020, 04:07 PM
I regret selling on the 2 Rover P6B 3500S rovers I had.. one still had the 10.25:1 engine.. a 1972 and a 1975.

I gave mine away!![bawl] He was going to restore it ( not much needed ) and SWIUTHTO insisted..... He never brought it back for me to see, come to think of it.

Tins
14th January 2020, 04:18 PM
What you have done, Gav, is exercise your democratic right to be a romantic fool. There should be more of it IMO. And XJs were/are drop dead gorgeous. I once had a SII. Wish I still did. Sure, it had issues. But what a place to be....

But don't listen to me FFS. I still have, in a shed, a 1969 FIAT 124 AC Sport. Speaking of romantic fools.

Tins
14th January 2020, 04:20 PM
Just wait until you old an old french car ...... or 10 [bighmmm]

Is that like old Italian cars? The other nine are for parts? Or is it all ten....

Homestar
14th January 2020, 06:14 PM
Are the switches common with any other breed ?

Not that Iíve found. Have sourced 2 brand new OEM switches - yes, thatís as expensive as it sounds but should be good for another 40 years hopefully.

Tins
14th January 2020, 07:17 PM
Not that Iíve found. Have sourced 2 brand new OEM switches - yes, thatís as expensive as it sounds but should be good for another 40 years hopefully.

You will, but most were thin on the ground in Oz. Here there were Austin Kimberleys and Morris Marinas, but I seriously doubt you'll find many of those to scavenge.... The Kimberley was in fact an OK car for what it was. Finding P76 stuff may help..........[bigwhistle]

In the UK the whole British Leyland nightmare unfolds in front of you... Many switches , among other things, crossed over.

DoubleChevron
16th January 2020, 10:22 AM
Is that like old Italian cars? The other nine are for parts? Or is it all ten....

Yes, you certainly need 9 parts cars. You see the parts everyone including you needs will be no good on all nine parts cars..... But the bits no-one wants (including you) there will be nine spares of [bigrolf]

seeya
Shane L.

Homestar
3rd February 2020, 08:09 PM
New window switches in and working, just needs a polish before the car show this weekend. Have owned the Jag for just on 12 months now - time flys! Drove it 29 days on my permit, hopefully will be more this coming year.

Still have a list of things to do to it, but while it starts and runs I think Iíll just keep driving it as I have too many other things to do. 😁

101RRS
13th September 2020, 09:28 PM
Gav - here is an improvement you can make to your limo [bighmmm]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50337134626_f078935702_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2jG7Ypu)Appalling-****box (https://flic.kr/p/2jG7Ypu)

350RRC
19th September 2020, 07:17 PM
Yep, put a Chev in it. [bigrolf][bigrolf]

Is that a big or small block? [biggrin]

DL

Homestar
19th September 2020, 07:36 PM
Um, no - wonít get a Chev in it while I own it. I have no issues with the Chev V8ís but I like the 4.2 engine and it matches the car well. While itís not overly powerful by todayís standards it will do 100MPH if pushed still (on a closed race track of course) 😇

Itís a big lumbering saloon, although it handles surprisingly well and that rear end suspension is soooo sweet, itís unmatched in almost any other car, even to this day. Would say the only vehicle Iíve driven that rides better would be a Range Rover, but none of them could hold a candle to how this handles around corners as well as being able to absorb almost anything the road can throw up.

DiscoMick
20th September 2020, 01:20 PM
Keeping the engine original should make it more valuable.

loanrangie
20th September 2020, 02:44 PM
A ford barra would make an excellent donor, similar dohc design but oodles more power and reliability.

rick130
20th September 2020, 02:50 PM
A ford barra would make an excellent donor, similar dohc design but oodles more power and reliability.And probably lighter?
The Jag engine was heavy.

loanrangie
20th September 2020, 03:32 PM
And probably lighter?
The Jag engine was heavy.

Yes, should move it along nicely.

Homestar
20th September 2020, 04:52 PM
Keeping the engine original should make it more valuable.

They arenít actually worth a lot to be honest, they seem to be the entry level as far as classic Jags go - Being a Series 2 built by British Leyland, itís value is somewhat less than what you may think.

Homestar
20th September 2020, 04:54 PM
A ford barra would make an excellent donor, similar dohc design but oodles more power and reliability.

Oooh, I like that idea! That would be a good transplant! - can you mate them up to a Turbo 400 auto easily as that box is a straight bolt in to the rest of the car, so anything that can be mated to it easily would be viable - one of the reasons the Chev V8 was so popular - they almost bolt straight in.

That would be something Iíd look at if ever this engine goes to God - I doubt Iíd spend the money rebuilding it if it did die, but hopefully Iíll get a few years yet out of it. 😊

loanrangie
23rd September 2020, 01:38 PM
Oooh, I like that idea! That would be a good transplant! - can you mate them up to a Turbo 400 auto easily as that box is a straight bolt in to the rest of the car, so anything that can be mated to it easily would be viable - one of the reasons the Chev V8 was so popular - they almost bolt straight in.

That would be something Iíd look at if ever this engine goes to God - I doubt Iíd spend the money rebuilding it if it did die, but hopefully Iíll get a few years yet out of it. 😊

CRS do a barra to T400 adapter, its the go to box for big hp motors. There is a falcon with a 1400hp barra fitted with a T400 on youtube.

BA-BF FORD 6CYL TO TURBO 400 TURBO 700 V8 POWERGLIDE AP108A - GM AUTO - ADAPTOR PLATE (https://www.rodshop.com.au/ap108a-gm-auto-adaptor-plate.html)

Homestar
23rd September 2020, 02:08 PM
That's half the battle over then and not an hour up the road to pick it up... [biggrin][thumbsupbig]

The TH400 will bolt straight into the Jag. The Series 2 XJ12 (same car as mine with the V12) made 295HP so Engineering shouldn't be that hard either., the rear end is unkillable and there's plenty of room up front for the engine. Barra engine is around 40 to 50Kg lighter than the 4.2 as well...

Could even use the TH700 from a V8 Dunny Door - for the power I'll want this would be fine and give a little more refinement and an overdrive for effortless, low rev freeway and open road cruising which the Jag is so good at.
Might start to quietly collect the bits I'll need... [bigwhistle]

Rebuilt TH700 - $3,000
Adaptor - $1,300
Engine - $4,000 for a NOS NA BF Engine - would need ECU, front accessories and other bits no doubt. Could probably pick up a whole car at a decent price and get everything I need, including cooling package, AC, etc. While the turbo engine would make it a monster, even as a NA engine with factory tune it almost matches what the V12 could do back in the 70's and would certainly push it along well.

Including faffing around and Engineering, should cost around $10 to $12K - what I paid for the car, but geez, wouldn't it be nice... [bigwhistle]

Homestar
23rd September 2020, 02:34 PM
Well, you can get a complete car for a couple of grand that would have everything in it - for around the $4K mark you can get one with under 200,000Km on it and with a RWC and rego! For $2,500 one with under 200,000Km in a less well looked after car - Cheap donor vehicle with everything needed and would be so much fun to go buy one and not look over the vehicle, but just check the engine, and say you'll take it as the rest doesn't matter as it will be going down the tip... [biggrin][bigrolf]

I should stop looking now, I can't do this at the moment, but it would make a very viable, reliable conversion.

loanrangie
23rd September 2020, 06:43 PM
Well, you can get a complete car for a couple of grand that would have everything in it - for around the $4K mark you can get one with under 200,000Km on it and with a RWC and rego! For $2,500 one with under 200,000Km in a less well looked after car - Cheap donor vehicle with everything needed and would be so much fun to go buy one and not look over the vehicle, but just check the engine, and say you'll take it as the rest doesn't matter as it will be going down the tip... [biggrin][bigrolf]

I should stop looking now, I can't do this at the moment, but it would make a very viable, reliable conversion.Seem motors for almost give away price $500 or so.

Homestar
23rd September 2020, 07:22 PM
Yeah, looks like there are plenty out there. If I did it, I think a donor vehicle would be the way to go so I can grab everything I need to make it all work with all the factory stuff - would be much easier I think. Still just a thought at the moment, donít have the time nor money to start something like this at the moment but itís certainly the way Iíd go if I ever need a new engine for it. [emoji106]

DoubleChevron
2nd October 2020, 11:10 PM
a few years back .... I had those falcon motors coming up as sponsored adverts on facebook for $69.00 (entire long motor). The damn things just never wore out .... the wreckers were full of them and they had zero market value as no-one ever needed to replace them! Go the LPG version! It'll have higher compression ratio and solid conrods.

INter674
3rd October 2020, 05:54 AM
We had one lwb 4.2 full import for 3 years or so..wife drove it daily to school and back. I drove it fast😎 and was amazed at its go kart like handling with full opposite lock slides...yes we we're very young and carefree back then. 180kph...felt safe enuf🤤

But needed cash for a house..so sold it to a tech entrepreneur for a big cash profit.

We still miss it😍

Enjoy☺

101RRS
3rd October 2020, 02:23 PM
And the XJ12 is so much better again [thumbsupbig]. When I was a teenager I remember the Falcon Phase 3 GTHO being touted as the fastest four door production car in the world and it was until about 18 months later when the XJ12 was released which took the crown off the GTHO. Noting that the GTHO was still quicker accelerating as it was lighter and built as a race car with street qualifications to meet homologation rules where the XJ12 was pure limo.

The XJ12 was even faster than an Etype with the same engine in it due to the better aerodynamics of the XJ12.

Garry

loanrangie
4th October 2020, 09:22 AM
Just saw on Facebook a 75 XJ6 with a 350 turbo 350 for 4k, engineered as well.

Discodicky
4th October 2020, 04:27 PM
They arenít actually worth a lot to be honest, they seem to be the entry level as far as classic Jags go - Being a Series 2 built by British Leyland, itís value is somewhat less than what you may think.

Those Series 2's are starting to go back up in price, particularly a nice unadulterated one like yours.
The last of the Series 2 XJ6's from 1976 were undoubtedly the best, I am very familiar with them, but have forgotten lots...[bigsad]
Stay with the original engine as all parts are readily obtainable and inexpensive, and it is a nice engine.
Its only fault being the coolant surrounding the cyl head studs, thus will eventually corrode if the coolant hasn't been maintained.
There is a stud behind each block welsh/core plug for access to drill out when the stud snaps...[bigsad]

About 4 yrs ago I rebuilt my 3.8 Mk2 engine with lots of "E" Type parts for a little over $4k
It only started getting expensive when I added stainless steel extractors, lightweight flywheel, "D" type cams, etc when I got carried away.
Not to mention the electric/hydraulic power steering rack, 4 spot alloy brake calipers, triple laced wire wheels etc all from the UK.
With the 5 speed Celica gearbox it would stay with an E Type up to around 110 mph, tested at a Symmons Plains Jaguar Car Club event day.


Interestingly, yours being a '77 and depending on what month, it almost certainly had either a) Stromberg carbs with water heated/controlled auto chokes, or b) the SU's but with the diabolical SU auto (exhaust gas) heated choke which worked very well...... but only when it worked, which was not so often.

Looking at the EGR valve and the fact you mention the pumps are in the tanks, I think yours may have had Strombergs, as my memory can't recall seeing SU's with the EGR but I'll stand corrected as "age" is my enemy here!

In your car, someone has fitted either early XJ6 Series 1 carbs/manifold with SU auto electric choke to replace the Strombergs, or simply an SU electric choke assembly to replace the SU AED (Automatic Enrichment Device)

Yours is an excellent conversion and well within the spirit of keeping it original, as the "lazy" people these days just fit a manual choke cable with linkages which work well but a bit of a pain to use. Certainly not in the realm of a fine Jaguar!

Cherish the car, it is a beauty!

EDIT: The fuel supply pipe has been bypassed from the air cond hose intercooler for some reason. Might be a good idea to re-connect this to assist with potential fuel evaporation problems.

DoubleChevron
8th January 2021, 02:04 PM
this is a lovely old looking thing ..... I reckon you should go grab it :) (its shape is way nicer than all of the more modern ones!).

Pedro_The_Swift
9th January 2021, 06:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA_dkvjUUu4&list=PLz2CNjb6s-b9bKXUzPFb7CrRh07zQiWE0



there was something about needing the go pedal out of the donor falcon??