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rijidij
16th January 2019, 09:24 PM
Have you fitted a gullwing box (cupboard).
I’m in the process of redesigning the storage in the back of my County.
I’m just wondering, how do you secure things in the box, on the shelves, to stop things bouncing around or being dislodged on rough roads.

Cheers

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Dervish
17th January 2019, 05:58 AM
It's a good question. I tend to put light stuff at the top; bags of chips etc. The middle row contains bulk food - and those Sistema containers when stacked have just the right amount of tension to not move, so they are the partitions. The bottom row is just full of the oddly shaped things that can move around if they want.

I guess the important part is that nothing - except round fruit - really seems to move at all, even when it isn't full.

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This is how it looks when we aren't travelling, note I've recently put a tap in. I expect if I went and opened it now, that cup wouldn't have moved.

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After rough roads all bets are off, but I've never had any thing bad happen. Just use containers and bags.

123rover50
17th January 2019, 07:33 AM
Cute Gecko[smilebigeye]

DieselDan
17th January 2019, 08:43 AM
Hi Murray,

I'm making my own gullwing box/cupboard using more qubelok and 7mm and 9mm ply.
The question of how to keep things in place has been puzzling me too!

I'm going to try something along the lines of the DIY toolbox foam liners, where you cut out the shapes in the foam, to see if that will keep things like cups, bowls, kettle, pans etc. in place.

I plan on posting up a few pics and a summary of how effective it is (or otherwise) when I'm finished.

rijidij
17th January 2019, 10:59 PM
Hi Murray,

I'm making my own gullwing box/cupboard using more qubelok and 7mm and 9mm ply.
The question of how to keep things in place has been puzzling me too!

I'm going to try something along the lines of the DIY toolbox foam liners, where you cut out the shapes in the foam, to see if that will keep things like cups, bowls, kettle, pans etc. in place.

I plan on posting up a few pics and a summary of how effective it is (or otherwise) when I'm finished.

I thought about cutting shapes in foam, ply etc, in drawers, but the gullwing cupboard being vertical is a bit different. I look forward to seeing what you come up with.

rijidij
17th January 2019, 11:01 PM
It's a good question. I tend to put light stuff at the top; bags of chips etc. The middle row contains bulk food - and those Sistema containers when stacked have just the right amount of tension to not move, so they are the partitions. The bottom row is just full of the oddly shaped things that can move around if they want.

I guess the important part is that nothing - except round fruit - really seems to move at all, even when it isn't full.

147554

This is how it looks when we aren't travelling, note I've recently put a tap in. I expect if I went and opened it now, that cup wouldn't have moved.

147555

After rough roads all bets are off, but I've never had any thing bad happen. Just use containers and bags.

I guess on a trip it’s going to be fully packed, so as long as the contents are non breakable, no problem.

CraigE
17th January 2019, 11:26 PM
I guess on a trip it’s going to be fully packed, so as long as the contents are non breakable, no problem.
I use pac brackets for some things. Over again I would not buy the shelving as is not the best fit. I would get the gullwings and then make my own using the aluminim joiners and square tubing from Bunnings and the like to make a custom set of shelves with diamond mesh. The issue with these shelves is eventually water gets in and on multiple occassions have come out to all my medical gear in an inch of water ruining items and the carpet lining. No matter what you do if any pressure is on the gullwing doors they will eventually leak if left out in heavy rain.

Dervish
18th January 2019, 05:11 AM
I use pac brackets for some things. Over again I would not buy the shelving as is not the best fit. I would get the gullwings and then make my own using the aluminim joiners and square tubing from Bunnings and the like to make a custom set of shelves with diamond mesh. The issue with these shelves is eventually water gets in and on multiple occassions have come out to all my medical gear in an inch of water ruining items and the carpet lining. No matter what you do if any pressure is on the gullwing doors they will eventually leak if left out in heavy rain.

I can't remember ever having problems with water ingress? I would remember it too, as the other side's gullwing would leak right onto the mattress. The latches are adjustable and you could shim under the hinge if the gullwing doesn't get enough pressure on the seal.

CraigE
24th January 2019, 11:19 PM
I can't remember ever having problems with water ingress? I would remember it too, as the other side's gullwing would leak right onto the mattress. The latches are adjustable and you could shim under the hinge if the gullwing doesn't get enough pressure on the seal.
Its only the side with the shelves where items in the shelf push against the gullwing.

In A Landy Down Under
1st February 2019, 11:01 AM
Have you fitted a gullwing box (cupboard).
I’m in the process of redesigning the storage in the back of my County.
I’m just wondering, how do you secure things in the box, on the shelves, to stop things bouncing around or being dislodged on rough roads.

Cheers


I wondered this too. I ended up making my own from MDF (quiet easily, just took a little time), and used a product from Camp Cover to store all my stuff in because you can zip it all up. The camp cover product has a velcro backing so is very secure when stuck to the carpet I used to cover the MDF. I also have a few small boxes and camp cover zip-up bags that sit in the space below....works brilliantly!

Guess it depends what you want to store there, but this works really well for me and I will utilize the space to the right a little better in time....just working out what will work best for me.

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4xsama
6th February 2019, 07:11 AM
I have a few items (such as my Thumper in car charger outlet) in the back of my Puma which have velcro stuck to them. I lined the back out with marine carpet so the hook component of velcro's hook and loop sticks really well. See in the bottom right corner of the attached:

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For the Gullwing, if it has a loop type lining (ala marine carpet or even the wide velcro strips) you could make up some angle brackets out of aluminium (a tee section would be best) to use as adjustable partitioning. I'd also consider shock cord secured at each end and have some open hooks at convenient spacing to hold stuff in. The success of the storage would largely depend on having suitable containers I think.

DieselDan
25th February 2019, 11:28 AM
I finally finished off and fitted my gullwing cupboard over the weekend.
I made it quite deep in the end so that I could still use some canvas bags that a lot of my camping/cooking gear is kept in.
These, along with the stove/burner will go down the bottom and the cups, plates, mugs, kettle, pans etc. will go on the shelves above. I've given up on the foam idea for the moment and going with some velcro backed bungee nets off fleabay to hold everything in place.
The plastic drawers will have tea, coffee, salt, pepper and other condiments in.
The top part overhangs on the inside so that there's more space for sleeping bags and other light stuff and in the gap underneath I will strap the couple of camping tables I have.

Only finished late on Sunday arvo so hasn't had a shakedown test yet, but I'm happy with how it turned out. Just need to finish off the wiring for a light.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190225/d70f3dcf9da26f3e505e69767b5f104e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190225/72d32ca14fa3dd4b0307b44174e47b1e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190225/eebc2ea7708c8d3a503bd94f204b64fe.jpg

weeds
25th February 2019, 12:06 PM
Nice work Dan....

DieselDan
25th February 2019, 03:03 PM
Just for reference, this fine quality, slightly wonky workmanship is what the new cupboard is replacing.
Everything that fitted in/on this now goes in/on or strapped to the back of the gullwing cupboard.148765

Wallyb
25th February 2019, 07:50 PM
I love the idea of the gullwings ... however my only concern it that it blocks the view "over the left shoulder"

Which would mean mounting it on the right. That of course come with a bunch of other issues... like dangerous side to access things if you are on the side of the road.

However my awning is on the left - so that would be the logical place to put it .... unless I mounted the awning on the right, which would seem strange. [happycry]


So confused..

JoshV12345
25th February 2019, 08:00 PM
If you’re stopping that close to the side of the road for it to be dangerous there’s something wrong. Should be able to put anything, awning, Gullwing etc on the drivers side with no issue, just depends which side works out best for your setup.

weeds
25th February 2019, 08:08 PM
I love the idea of the gullwings ... however my only concern it that it blocks the view "over the left shoulder"

Which would mean mounting it on the right. That of course come with a bunch of other issues... like dangerous side to access things if you are on the side of the road.

However my awning is on the left - so that would be the logical place to put it .... unless I mounted the awning on the right, which would seem strange. [happycry]


So confused..

Generally when touring the cargo area windows are covered therefore cannot really see through them......not that I do shoulder checks anyways, that’s what the external mirrors are for.

You can get glass gull wings.....we ended up with two glass and two solid, had to keep the bride happy.

I try and pull up where it’s safe......if not a full wing would be not more dangerous than opening your sliding window and way less dangerous than an open door.

Re: awning, we have two gullwings under our awning, great for accessing the fridge, oven, chairs and table.

DieselDan
5th March 2019, 09:27 PM
Started to fill up the gullwing cupboard.
The Velcro backed nets from fleabay haven't arrived yet, but I'd also ordered some stretchy nets from organised Obie, so gave those a try, along with some stretchy cord taken off the old storage box.

Still got one of the plastic drawers to fill and all the area underneath.

Took it for a test down the bumpy, corrugated dirt road near work and everything was still where I put it, so happy with that!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190305/6de1dd87ee87368cbdc4975438395078.jpg

Pumba88
11th June 2020, 01:23 PM
Just wondering if anyone has the Frontrunner Gullwing box and what sort of weight it can handle / if its any good for a 12v setup? Was thinking if installing a lithium battery with solar controller / 240 charger.

Cheers

rijidij
11th June 2020, 06:17 PM
An update on this older thread.
I ended up going a different direction with storage.
I’m currently fitting a whole new storage system in my County, not quite finished but getting close.
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With the Gullwings, I’ve gone for a combination of recovery gear storage, and still having access to inside the vehicle.
This is a prototype, so it’s not powder coated yet.
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DieselDan
11th June 2020, 08:30 PM
Ooh a kind of door within a door...!
Clever.