Ex defense force aircraft auction

[bob10]

Unreserved ex-military aircraft auction - CONTACT magazine (http://www.contactairlandandsea.com/2019/02/11/unreserved-ex-military-aircraft-auction/)

[4bee]

I must be as thick as two short planks or something 'cos I don't get the "Funny Story"
Seems a reasonable question to me & it isn't mentioned in the blurb, or am I missing something or lost my sense of humour (unlikely)?

If they have been used, then they must have some Engine Hours up & if straight out of a packing case then they wouldn't.



Just sayin'.

[101RRS]

I agree - reasonable request - not sure what is funny.

[cjc_td5]

Do they even have engines in them? There are no under cowl photos of either the helos or PC9s and no mention of engine hours....

[101RRS]

The PC9 pics do show props and exhaust stacks so the ones in the pics certainly have engines.

[4bee]

Do they even have engines in them? There are no under cowl photos of either the helos or PC9s and no mention of engine hours....


So apart from Regulations stopping the buyer flying them out, they ain't going to get far.[biggrin]


Dunno, still puzzled, or the bloke has a sick/weak "sense of humour"?

[ramblingboy42]

I thought it was a funny story , some goose texting a message like that.

The article clearly states that the Kiowas have an average of 21,818 flying hours on them.

Those hrs are better maintained than civilian helicopters , I used to be a framie on them.

Although of limited use it would be great to fly around the country at 600kmh in one of the PC9s.

An astute purchaser would know the value of the Kiowas as they have had hundreds of modifications done to them to improve operational performance.

interesting

[4bee]

But he didn't mention the Kiowas, he asked about the PC9s. [bighmmm] Anyway you can't take anything for granted with Auctions.




o I called him back. “Sorry I missed your call. How can I help you?” “AHHH yeaaah maaate – those PC-9s ya got for sale there on yer web site – how many engine hours have they got on em?”o I called him back. “Sorry I missed your call. How can I help you?”
“AHHH yeaaah maaate – those PC-9s ya got for sale there on yer web site – how many engine hours have they got on em?”

[Hugh Jars]

The problem won’t be engine hours. They are most likely on second or third engine. Perhaps more, depending on the system of maintenance.
Most aircraft have a maximum economical airframe life/cycles, which I suspect would be most limiting factor in a 30+ year old aircraft like the PC9.
HARS will probably get a couple, but will only fly a handful of the remaining time left per year.

[87County]

The problem won’t be engine hours. They are most likely on second or third engine. Perhaps more, depending on the system of maintenance.
Most aircraft have a maximum economical airframe life/cycles, which I suspect would be most limiting factor in a 30+ year old aircraft like the PC9.
HARS will probably get a couple, but will only fly a handful of the remaining time left per year.

HARS seems to do alright. I was in Parkes the other day and HARS have got a reasonable P3 and an apparently reasonable 'boo parked there and also an ex-RAAF Neptune that I believe came from Dubbo. They've got some older civvie aeroplanes stored there as well.

Good on them, they're scrap otherwise and if it wasn't for HARS and Lowy's Temora outfit, no-one could afford to maintain and fly these aircraft - so we wouldn't see them outside museums.

[Arapiles]

Isnt the point of the "funny story" that it's Frontline Machinery, through Grays Online, that's selling the aircraft, rather than the guy who's posted a link to the auction? So, there's not much point asking him/her about the PC9s because he/she's not selling them.

Ps. these aircraft were up on Frontline's website last month.

[speleomike]

Hi all

Have been following the auction on Graysonline. The auction started on Friday and by that afternoon the Bell "Kiowa" Helicopters had reached $5k and they are now between $6k and $50k.

I can understand "who" is buying Perenties, in our street there are two and a few persons in LROC NSW have some. I'd love a helicopter like that. But who would be buying them? For cattle mustering out west?, a museum piece in someones big shed?. There are 22 of these and clearly there are several buyers at least.

Mike

[Old Farang]

For anyone interested there is an ongoing discussion at the following:


22 Bell Kiowa 206B-1 for sale Australia - PPRuNe Forums (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/618289-22-bell-kiowa-206b-1-sale-australia.html)

[Hugh Jars]

HARS seems to do alright. I was in Parkes the other day and HARS have got a reasonable P3 and an apparently reasonable 'boo parked there and also an ex-RAAF Neptune that I believe came from Dubbo. They've got some older civvie aeroplanes stored there as well.

Good on them, they're scrap otherwise and if it wasn't for HARS and Lowy's Temora outfit, no-one could afford to maintain and fly these aircraft - so we wouldn't see them outside museums.

I agree. A couple of work and ex-work colleagues are involved in the flying side of HARS (including the getting the P3 to flying status). Nevertheless, these are all very high-time aircraft with limited life left in them. If HARS pick some of them up, no doubt some will go to static display, and hopefully some will fly again.

[Homestar]

Anyone know what hazardous parts would be in the Helicopters?



Certain Parts within this lot require a Hazardous Management Licence before ownership can occur. Hazardous part can be removed if purchaser is unable to obtain required licence. Details of the licence can be obtained by contacting Craig Ley on 0417-227-677.

[4bee]

Isnt the point of the "funny story" that it's Frontline Machinery, through Grays Online, that's selling the aircraft, rather than the guy who's posted a link to the auction? So, there's not much point asking him/her about the PC9s because he/she's not selling them.

Ps. these aircraft were up on Frontline's website last month.

Well that is even worse as that aspect doesn't seem to be mentioned & if one wasn't of the Flyboy fraternity one would never know so not really a clever "funny story" at all.

[4bee]

Anyone know what hazardous parts would be in the Helicopters?



Certain Parts within this lot require a Hazardous Management Licence before ownership can occur. Hazardous part can be removed if purchaser is unable to obtain required licence. Details of the licence can be obtained by contacting Craig Ley on 0417-227-677.



Well, with the F-111s it was certainly the fuel tanks & probably other items but I'm not aware if there is a common denominator. Maybe it is fuel tank linings on the rotary wings as well, but just a guess. it seems as though anything these days could fit into that category. A splash of something on some part unseen etc. Who knows, but they are obviously covering their 'arrises.'

[Old Farang]

Anyone know what hazardous parts would be in the Helicopters?



Certain Parts within this lot require a Hazardous Management Licence before ownership can occur. Hazardous part can be removed if purchaser is unable to obtain required licence. Details of the licence can be obtained by contacting Craig Ley on 0417-227-677.


Possibly asbestos in some of the heat shields / lagging.

[4bee]

Well, with the F-111s it was certainly the fuel tanks & probably other items but I'm not aware if there is a common denominator. Maybe it is fuel tank linings on the rotary wings as well, but just a guess. it seems as though anything these days could fit into that category. A splash of something on some part unseen etc. Who knows, but they are obviously covering their 'arrises.'


Here you go.......F-111 Deseal/Reseal | Royal Australian Air Force (https://www.airforce.gov.au/contact-us/f-111-desealreseal)