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kruff73
4th March 2019, 12:19 PM
I’m looking at putting a dual battery system into my new Discovery 5 and LR said that unless they do the install, any related issues would not be covered by warranty. Truth or fiction?

DiscoMick
4th March 2019, 12:26 PM
What 'related issues' would a dual battery install cause? Plenty of vehicles under warranty get dual batteries.

kruff73
4th March 2019, 12:35 PM
That’s the million dollar question. I can see why issues it could cause. They kind of intimated that if anything went wrong electrically then it could ‘potentially’ be because of the dbs. And for that reason the warranty would be void unless they installed it. ??? Scare tactics or does law actually dictate their position.

kruff73
4th March 2019, 12:36 PM
I meant I ‘can’t’ see what issues it could cause...

DiscoMick
4th March 2019, 12:41 PM
I'm sure Drivesafe would have some useful things to say about this question.

Zcoota
4th March 2019, 02:05 PM
It's not a case of what issues could the battery cause. The mod simply gives LR the option to walk away from the warranty and put the onus back onto you to prove that it didn't cause the problem.

I would imagine it would be easy to simply say that part 'x' failed due to a voltage spike cause by the dual batter system now you have to go away and prove it didn't... how do you even start to do that.

What options are left open to you after than other than going legal. Having the law on your side is only the beginning, taking legal action is the expensive part.

kruff73
5th March 2019, 07:12 AM
Called LR again yesterday to actually ask for a quote on what I wanted and they said they couldn’t do it and I should go to ARB! Go figure..

DiscoMick
5th March 2019, 11:16 AM
I've had three DBS systems over the years and never had any of them cause a 'related fault'. All it does is flow some juice from the first to second battery. Am I missing something?

Zcoota
5th March 2019, 05:11 PM
I've had three DBS systems over the years and never had any of them cause a 'related fault'. All it does is flow some juice from the first to second battery. Am I missing something?

I don't think you are, I guess I'm just highlighting the way that some dealers operate. I've just seen first hand how some businesses operate with regards to backing away from warranty issues. A DBS is pretty simple but given the complexity of a D5 and potentially hellishly expensive gremlins that can arise why expose yourself. That said its pretty tricky if LR are saying go to ARB...

Gmed
23rd September 2019, 05:47 PM
Funny enough, my D5 is on its second tank about6 weeks old. I ask the dealer about

Second battery
electric brake controller
uhf radio

Answer: sorry we don’t do that have to go somewhere else...
go figure.

any hints on where to go on Gold Coast?

DiscoMick
23rd September 2019, 07:51 PM
Traxide does D5s and he's on the Gold Coast. Just Google Traxide.

Gmed
27th September 2019, 12:39 PM
Traxide does D5s and he's on the Gold Coast. Just Google Traxide.
Thanks Discomick, i think ill go there. first i want to organise trailer brake controller and UHF: not sure how??

stevo
27th September 2019, 04:30 PM
the brake controller for me was very easy to fit it was plug and play and have towed heaps with it n o problems, hardest part was finding where to mount it.

brentp
6th October 2019, 07:37 PM
On the topic of warranties, would editing the CCF void your warranty?

My 2018MY came without the TPMS (daft I know) so that's the reason for asking. LR seems to have a "no modifications once out of the factory" policy. Dealer out of the door simply said no to this being fitted aftermarket.

Cheers

Brent

IndusD4
7th October 2019, 05:21 AM
If a dealer did the CCF updates that would be ok, but if you somehow managed to with another tool and it buggered up the CCF then I can see that it wouldn't be covered under warranty.

Ron

DiscoMick
7th October 2019, 10:18 AM
Any decent electrician should be able to do a trailer brake controller. The remote head one which just has a twist dial on the dash, I think made by Redarc, seems popular.

DiscoMick
7th October 2019, 10:19 AM
On the topic of warranties, would editing the CCF void your warranty?

My 2018MY came without the TPMS (daft I know) so that's the reason for asking. LR seems to have a "no modifications once out of the factory" policy. Dealer out of the door simply said no to this being fitted aftermarket.

Cheers

BrentThe dealer probably just wanted the job himself.

brentp
9th October 2019, 02:10 AM
Any idea about warranty voiding Mick?

Tombie
9th October 2019, 08:54 AM
You all speak as if this is a LR thing.

Any car manufacturer looks at modifications and assess if they are a valid reason to void warranty.
Any device, alteration or addition should compliment the vehicle, not be detrimental - if you fit something that is detrimental then of course warranty would come into question.

If a battery system is correctly fitted it will give no cause for warranty claim - unless it impacts the charging system detrimentally - Traxide units dont cause negative effects for example.

Brake controllers are the same - if fitted in accordance to manufacturers recommendations - in this case using the fitted plug - and wired and working correctly - no problem.

Tyre diameter increases, power tunes etc would all draw attention.

Modifying the CCF - as long as a back up is made - will either work or not, turning on a function that isnt fitted could make it misbehave - just return the setting to original.

blackrangie
9th October 2019, 09:51 AM
You all speak as if this is a LR thing.

Any car manufacturer looks at modifications and assess if they are a valid reason to void warranty.
Any device, alteration or addition should compliment the vehicle, not be detrimental - if you fit something that is detrimental then of course warranty would come into question.

If a battery system is correctly fitted it will give no cause for warranty claim - unless it impacts the charging system detrimentally - Traxide units dont cause negative effects for example.

Brake controllers are the same - if fitted in accordance to manufacturers recommendations - in this case using the fitted plug - and wired and working correctly - no problem.

Tyre diameter increases, power tunes etc would all draw attention.

Modifying the CCF - as long as a back up is made - will either work or not, turning on a function that isnt fitted could make it misbehave - just return the setting to original.Agree, basically they would have to show your addition caused the failure directly or indirectly to not pay a claim.

I haven't seen much if any evidence on this forum of LR not coming to the party on reasonably modded vehicles.