Rebuild the 200tdi or Isuzu conversion?

[bucklrya]

The old girl has clicked up 304k but has some decent blow by. Using quite a bit of oil and is leaking from more than one seal! It's in to get the head pulled off next week for a ring inspection and I fear the worst. I've got the budget to rebuild or should I convert? Reading all these great stories about the 4bd1t and the trouble free motoring.

Could I convert for similar money to a rebuild and if yes, would anyone recommend a Melbourne based wrench to do it?

I know it'll raise more than a few eyebrows..

[steveG]

304k - probably find the rings are all carboned up and the bores look like new. Was certainly the case with my 300tdi at 320k.
Pulled the pistons out, removed the rings and cleaned out the grooves. New big end bearings and 60k later it's still good as gold.

IMO the value of an Isuzu conversion depends on what you are doing with the vehicle. If you are usually loaded, do a fair bit of hilly driving or tow more than a 6x4 trailer the Isuzu is awesome. If not - I wouldn't bother with the conversion hassle. Also, no point in putting in an Isuzu without turboing it.

Steve

[Red90]

A conversion would be a lot more money.

[bucklrya]

A conversion would be a lot more money.Thanks mate.. Thought as much

[disco 300]

Thanks mate.. Thought as muchThere is a new 3.9 Isuzu motor and gearbox for sale on Gumtree in the "Land Rover parts and accessories" section on Gumtree at the moment. I have no affiliation, just thought you might be interested.
Cheers.

[rar110]

I’m sort of facing the same decision. I have a perentie with a good motor and chassis but ordinary body/interior, and a 200tdi with a good body/interior and blown motor.

Do a body swap or fix up both. Can’t decide.

[tc_s1]

I’m sort of facing the same decision. I have a perentie with a good motor and chassis but ordinary body/interior, and a 200tdi with a good body/interior and blown motor.

Do a body swap or fix up both. Can’t decide.Perhaps decide the end game. Possibly fix up both, one at a time. If your interest is in only keeping one, sell one to repay the restoration on the first, which you sell, and help fund the second, which you keep.

[rar110]

My end game is to own 1 x 110 and the L322. Ultimately, I may move to one L405 and no 110.

Currently I have 3 x 110s and none operational (one I just need to prioritise it, allocate 2 hrs and will be good again).

The 200tdi has advantages (light & factory complete). But so does the perentie with a 200tdi wagon body (good end product with simple reliable motor and new box).

The perentie project came out as a wagon with a very similar body to the 200tdi. So is a good match. It currently has a early county body so is not real good IMHO, but lift up handles appeal to some.

So it’s a tough choice.

[rijidij]

If anyone is doing a conversion to the Isuzu, I can supply weld on engine mounts which will save a lot of hassle and time measuring things up.
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[Zeros]

My end game is to own 1 x 110 and the L322. Ultimately, I may move to one L405 and no 110.

Currently I have 3 x 110s and none operational (one I just need to prioritise it, allocate 2 hrs and will be good again).

The 200tdi has advantages (light & factory complete). But so does the perentie with a 200tdi wagon body (good end product with simple reliable motor and new box).

The perentie project came out as a wagon with a very similar body to the 200tdi. So is a good match. It currently has a early county body so is not real good IMHO, but lift up handles appeal to some.

So it’s a tough choice.

If you sell perentie 1 and keep the 200tdi / swap body onto perentie 2 would that work?

Send me some pics of the perentie you’re thinking of selling? :) What does it need? Pm if you like.

[Blknight.aus]

generally...

no a tdi200 rebuild is not going to cost more or be any less reliable than a 4bd1 converstion.

you wont get a goodish 4bd1 let alone a -t for the cost of a tdi200 rebuild. and then you want a turbo

then you have the cost of the gearbox cause an lt77 isnt going to cut it the HD lt85 will do averagely but even the r380 is not going to have a fun life with a 4bd1 hammering at its nose. Hell driven wrong even the lt95 gets a little stroppy

Exhaust....

intake..

clutch...

did it come with a starter?

Vac lines...

fuel lines and filters...

If you dont already have the box and the donk. You'll be lucky to see change from $10k on a full 4bd1 conversion buying the engine and gearbox as outright units.

ME If I was that way inclined...

A perentie GS can be had for $12K (which had a wrecked body and no front bar) you get the engine the gearbox the heavy rear diff heavy suspension.. Grab one of them and drop your body on. Turbo it later...

OR spend about $1K on paying someone to pull out and put back the engine in your vehicle
$500 on a damn good clutch
$1500 to freshen up the box
$2Kish to get the block and crank done with new pistons and bearings.

$5K tops.

[rar110]

If you sell perentie 1 and keep the 200tdi / swap body onto perentie 2 would that work?

Send me some pics of the perentie you’re thinking of selling? :) What does it need? Pm if you like.

Yep. That one of the two options.

[simmo]

I think if were me i'be looking for a 300 Tdi to rebuild or if you can get a good one to drop in. there's plenty around, and i think the 200 tdi ex manifold fits the 300 tdi, so you can have a choice of turbos. I have a 300 tdi with a Garrett 2256 VNT. Its a good all rounder, easy to get parts and reliable and not hard on the gearbox. Others know more about it but i think it will fit straight in.

cheers simmo

[Red90]

Changing to a 300tdi is a lot of work with no gain.