LLAMS question

[BrianElloy]

Hi peeps

So I like the feel (handling) of my D4 when I have LLAMS set to -20mm

My question is does it introduce any negative camber? And will this increase inside-edge tyre wear?

Cheers

Brian

[SeanC]

Hi peeps

So I like the feel (handling) of my D4 when I have LLAMS set to -20mm

My question is does it introduce any negative camber? And will this increase inside-edge tyre wear?

Cheers

Brian

Have used it all the time for a number of years with no abnormal tyre wear.
It is the non user selectable high speed height (>160kph) so I would think that Land Rover would have that sorted.

[Shropshire]

Wheres the best place to buy a kit in WA or online. I feel this is one of the must have bits of equipment. Thanks

[101RRS]

Hi peeps

So I like the feel (handling) of my D4 when I have LLAMS set to -20mm

My question is does it introduce any negative camber? And will this increase inside-edge tyre wear?

Cheers

Brian

I drive around with LLAMs set to -20mm and I did wear the inside of my last set of tyres - all four wore the same. With this set of tyres I am intending to change the tyres around on the rims at about 25,000km to 30,000km to even out the wear.


It is the non user selectable high speed height (>160kph) so I would think that Land Rover would have that sorted. Do you think so - I think you give LR too much credit, afterall what % of tyre life is the car doing over 160kph. The amount of tyre wear would be inconsequential.

Garry

[Narangga]

Wheres the best place to buy a kit in WA or online. I feel this is one of the must have bits of equipment. Thanks

Take your choice of the three retailers listed on the website

Llams PTY LTD (https://www.llams.com.au/)

[SeanC]

I drive around with LLAMs set to -20mm and I did wear the inside of my last set of tyres - all four wore the same. With this set of tyres I am intending to change the tyres around on the rims at about 25,000km to 30,000km to even out the wear.

Do you think so - I think you give LR too much credit, afterall what % of tyre life is the car doing over 160kph. The amount of tyre wear would be inconsequential.

Garry
Commuting on the autobahns in Germany. Most probably quite a bit.
Yes maybe giving LR too much credit but it is nice to dream.

[DiscoJeffster]

Unquestionably it will induce inner tyre wear. The arm geometry applies negative camber when it lowers. How much, well I cannot say. I find the ride at -20mm awful but each to their own

[Russrobe]

Unquestionable that it will induce tyre wear if you run this setting 24/7. Undeniably easy to fix if you plan on doing this 24/7, just get a wheel alignment done at the setting you plan to drive it at 24/7. Simple as that.

I run the -20mm offset on the fwy whenever it's windy as i feel it blows the car around a bit, and my tyres still wear perfectly even, so the odd occasion will make next to no difference.

No different to putting lowered springs in any other vehicle, you get a wheel alignment done at the new height and problem solved, else nobody would ever install lift/lower kits.

[101RRS]

Unquestionable that it will induce tyre wear if you run this setting 24/7. Undeniably easy to fix if you plan on doing this 24/7, just get a wheel alignment done at the setting you plan to drive it at 24/7. Simple as that.



Thats what I did, however at -20mm and in TTM the old alignment after 12 years and 145,000km was still within allowable alignment specs for onroad height - yet my tyres still wore on the inside.

To counter the inside wear, the alignment guy put in a little more toe in to try and correct this - 20,000km later there is no obvious extra wear on the inside but I will swap the tyres on the rims at about half life to see how I go.

Garry

[loanrangie]

Front suspension is an unequal length double wishbone arrangement so as it arcs it will go out of alignment.