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goingbush
26th March 2019, 09:05 AM
When are they going to learn not to add music . Need to hear its not ICE .


https://youtu.be/g2SED5Yek-A

manic
26th March 2019, 09:49 AM
Looks good on the outside. An electric defender would be great for trials!

The video would be far more interesting if they showed whats underneath - the build!

goingbush
26th March 2019, 10:16 AM
A better video without music in off road section about 4.40 , look like they need to adjust throttle map to have a soft start. Seems to be no control at all , its all go or stop .


https://youtu.be/YTMV6v3WWIk

Homestar
26th March 2019, 10:21 AM
Yeah, throttle control is aweful - makes it hard to 4 wheel drive properly. At least it's an easy fix. Music sucks on these sort of videos...

austastar
26th March 2019, 10:40 AM
Music sucks on these sort of videos...
Hi,
Absolutely! Nothing beats well balanced ambiance.
Cheers

DeanoH
27th March 2019, 04:32 PM
Yawn .................................. just what the world needs, another crap video of a large 4WD being driven irresponsibly with the mandatory loud, crap background music. :(
As for an 'all electric 4WD', double yawn [bigwhistle], wake me up when there's a full size 'all electric 4WD' that can run at full power all day AND carry a load. ie. same as a 'normal' 4WD.

Not in my life time.

Deano :)

goingbush
27th March 2019, 08:44 PM
Yawn .................................. just what the world needs, another crap video of a large 4WD being driven irresponsibly with the mandatory loud, crap background music. :(
As for an 'all electric 4WD', double yawn [bigwhistle], wake me up when there's a full size 'all electric 4WD' that can run at full power all day AND carry a load. ie. same as a 'normal' 4WD.

Not in my life time.

Deano :)


Fair point Deano, The music is **** and I agree that is a pretty irresponsible video and really at odds with being environmentally friendly.

Now please let me know what 'normal' 4WD can actually run all day at full power AND carry a load . No LandRover can do that and I'm not aware of any 'normal' 4WD that can. My bet is that an Electric Fuel Cell 4WD will be the first that can - and unless your 95 it will be in your lifetime.

DeanoH
28th March 2019, 02:23 PM
Now please let me know what 'normal' 4WD can actually run all day at full power AND carry a load . No LandRover can do that and I'm not aware of any 'normal' 4WD that can. My bet is that an Electric Fuel Cell 4WD will be the first that can - and unless your 95 it will be in your lifetime.

Yea, fair call. What I'm basically 'sick of' is the continual assault from the ever 'politically correct EV circles' extolling the virtues of this technology and how with millions spent putting charging points along the Hume with super fast charging one could do the journey in quick time. etc........... For me my yard stick is same time as a similar petrol powered vehicle and until then it's all very interesting but basically impractical.

I'm not having a go at you goingbush, quite the opposite, I've read with interest and admiration the documentation of your lightweight build and read subsequent posts with interest.

As to a viable off road electric 4WD my yardstick here is eg. leave Healesville on Friday night after work with mum and kids aboard heading NE. Camp overnight at one of the many available camp spots. Saturday head off for a days driving on the many 4WD tracks visiting historical and other points of interest in the area camping again on a river somewhere. Sunday AM after a short drive stop on top of one of the many mountains/hills in the area for lunch with a view and then home for tea. :)

All very vanilla really and you must have done this more than once prior to heading north. I can do this easily on one tank of fuel and when it can be done on one EV charge then I'll be interested.

The real challenge though will be the ability to travel to and then from Laverton to Ayers Rock along the Great Central Road and then on via Alice back to the east coast. Without a minimum 500 Km EV cruising range and with overlapping charging/change over points along the way IMO this remains an off road EV 4WD pipe dream.

Even though it will be an interesting though IMO ultimately futile journey as the distances involved and lack of population density make this whole dream nonviable economically much will be learned along the way. A bit like rolling out a telephone network really. :) The failed water turbine power generation technology is a good example of 'a good idea in theory BUT ..........' If it can't be made viable in the Bay of Fundy I'd be surprised if it can work economically anywhere.

I would have thought Hydrogen powered vehicles, with internal combustion or fuel cell would be a better solution all round, it sort of feels right, but not really something I know much about. :(

Deano :)

ps. On a similar subject, I stumbled across a Formula E race on TV the other day, didn't know such a thing existed. Wow!.[thumbsupbig] Absolutely enthralling edge of your seat stuff. It struck me as like the Formula Vee of old. Extremely competitive, identical vehicles and 'committed' drivers with 'balls to the wall' racing to the last erg of power. Why people would watch F1 when you could watch this (or Superbikes/MotoGP to be fair) has got me stuffed. :)