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Lukeis
2nd April 2019, 02:43 PM
I assumed this would have been covered already but a search of quietest all terrain didn’t produce anything

I like the look and confidence of all terrain tyres but HATE with a passion the sound of the tyres of my KO2 tyres rolling along the road.

Im looking for a new set and hoping someone with experience can tell me if there are any silent tyres they have found?

Considering the following options:
pirelli ATR
pirelli ATR Plus
continental crosscontact ATR
Maxiis AT771
D697

In reality I’m far less likely to go or want to go digging in any mud, I will go off-road but the vast majority will be on a beach and only occasionally on rocky roads so it begs the question why I don’t just go highway tyres.. I guess I like to have the option when needed

gofish
2nd April 2019, 02:48 PM
Always heard good reports of the D697's. I am looking at trying the Falken Wildpeak AT3 in a 265/60. Happy hunting.

Lukeis
2nd April 2019, 02:52 PM
Hmm.. How soon will you be the guinea pig for these??

101RRS
2nd April 2019, 03:44 PM
I have Nitto Terra Grappler AT tyres and they are very quiet.

Narangga
2nd April 2019, 03:44 PM
It's hard for me to say what are the quietest as the only experience of those you've quoted are that I have D697's. I have not heard any road noise from them for the last 40,000km...

RobA
2nd April 2019, 05:32 PM
D697 for sure. Great all rounder and definitely not much noisier than the OE Goodyears and certainly a lot quieter than our KO2's which have more grip off bitumen but you would need to be spending over 20,000km off bitumen so see and get the benefit. As we spend around 50% more on the dirt then the KO2 is our choice. But we would go back to the 697 otherwise

Rob

Lukeis
2nd April 2019, 05:59 PM
It’s very interesting, the feedback on the d697 couldn’t be more diverse. Ive read as many posts saying it is loud (incl a private message during this chat) as I have saying the opposite

i think to be safe I’m going to cut them from the list, despite positive comments above it seems too inconclusive

perhaps there are a number of factors which affect how loud they are for each person

Lukeis
2nd April 2019, 06:04 PM
I have Nitto Terra Grappler AT tyres and they are very quiet.

Is that th g2?

Graeme
2nd April 2019, 06:20 PM
I recently swapped from KO2 to Pirelli AT+ in 275/55R20, yearning for the KO2s to wear out enough due to them resonating in my ears. The AT+ produces a little sound on coarse bitumen in the L322 which doesn't have a chassis but are dead silent on smoother surfaces but as they've only done about 5K kms I don't know if they will get noisy with wear.

The 255/60R18 AT+ is XL with LI 112 whereas the 265/60R18 AT+ is not XL and has LI 110.

rocket rod
2nd April 2019, 06:33 PM
I have d697 and noticed a small increase in noise compared to the OEM HT tyres it came with.

Lukeis
2nd April 2019, 06:46 PM
I recently swapped from KO2 to Pirelli AT+ in 275/55R20, yearning for the KO2s to wear out enough due to them resonating in my ears. The AT+ produces a little sound on coarse bitumen in the L322 which doesn't have a chassis but are dead silent on smoother surfaces but as they've only done about 5K kms I don't know if they will get noisy with wear.

The 255/60R18 AT+ is XL with LI 112 whereas the 265/60R18 AT+ is not XL and has LI 110.

Thats interesting to hear, were your KO2s loud from the start? Mine were annoying between 40-70km/hr for a while and now are annoying no matter what speed I go

scarry
2nd April 2019, 06:58 PM
Thats interesting to hear, were your KO2s loud from the start? Mine were annoying between 40-70km/hr for a while and now are annoying no matter what speed I go

Mine seem to do the same,noisey around 60 to 75KM/hr.

They also cause a sort of buzz up the steering column on some road surfaces,which is very intermittent.

I thought about playing with tyre pressures,but haven't had time yet.

I think the noise is more obvious because the vehicle is so well refined.

A mate has the same tyres on his LC200,i can't hear them at all.

101RRS
2nd April 2019, 07:01 PM
Is that th g2?

Yes Nitto Terrain Grapper G2 265/60R18

They now have 25,000km and have great grip and are wearing well.

Were cheap as well - on a buy 3 get a 4th free worked out at just under $200 ea.

Graeme
2nd April 2019, 07:03 PM
Mine were about the same - barely tolerable noise early, worst at 80 but still there at 100 then 2 wore unevenly which were especially noisy wherever they were fitted. I installed resonance damping material on all flat panels inside and outside, lining the front mudguards and the body panels behind, the spare wheel well, lining accessible parts of the firewall, the full length of the box sections underneath and the air reservoir but I couldn't make a big enough impact. The AT+ so far are lovely.

DiscoMick
2nd April 2019, 08:56 PM
Quite happy with our Hankook Dynapro ATs in 235/85/16.

441
2nd April 2019, 09:13 PM
I've now got 1500km on a new set of Pirelli ATR+ on the standard 19" rims. Very impressed. A little more noise on billiard table smooth black top, otherwise can't tell the difference between them and the original ATR's aurally, although visually the ATR+ are much a more aggressive looking tyre. Was towing the Patriot X1 through mud and snow over the weekend in the kosciuszko national park and they were far more capable than the originals for that sort of mild offloading. I have a set of 18" Compomotive's on order and was planning on putting KO2's on them. Bit worried now after hearing all the reports of noise.

letherm
2nd April 2019, 09:51 PM
I have Michelins on mine and have noticed no increase in sound from the oem Goodyear wranglers they replaced. Went from 19" to 18" rims at the same time.

Martin

RANDLOVER
2nd April 2019, 09:54 PM
I have found that tyres get noisier with age, when I got my D3 it had well worn G-G or Wranglers on it and they were noisy, so I changed to Coopers A/T's, they were quiet at 1st, but got so noisy I thought the front diff had gone. I now have Coopers AT3's on the front and they are quiet. Although I think they are hardening, as they 1st start to squeal on smooth surfaces like parking yards, and then in roundabouts, hopefully they don't start roaring/droning in a straight line.

DiscoClax
2nd April 2019, 10:11 PM
Dead right. A mate of mine was convinced, as I was, that one of his rear wheel bearings was totally shot in his Laser. Running RE002s (they are effectively grooved slicks). It was the tyres. One had started to cup a bit as it wore. The noise and vibration were horrendous. New tyres fitted a few days ago and it's quiet and smooth. Once any tyre states to cup (or high/low, or whatever you want to call it) it'll really set up some noise and vibration and get worse.
Note we are both quite experienced engineers that have extensive tyre backgrounds. Bit embarrassing really...
I run 285/60R18 KO2s on my L320 and find them pretty quiet overall given the tread. I know they are there, but not offensive to me at all. The 285/35R22s highway tyres on there before were really no better amd had no excuse. I know the KO2s will get noisier and at half tread or so I'll replace them, but I would anyway as they are off road tyres and tread depth = grip. Must admit I've been eyeing off the D697s. I've never heard a bad thing regarding on road manners or strength from anyone with the tyres still in decent condition.

BrianElloy
2nd April 2019, 11:01 PM
D697 for sure. Great all rounder and definitely not much noisier than the OE Goodyears and certainly a lot louder than our KO2's but they have more grip off bitumen but you would need to be spending over 20,000km off bitumen so see and get the benefit. As we spend around 50% more on the dirt then the KO2 is our choice. But we would go back to the 697 otherwise

Rob

D697’s all day long

TuffRR
3rd April 2019, 06:37 AM
Just to provide a different perspective to everyone else's glowing praise of the D697's, I've had a shocking run with mine.
Consider them a highway tyre and you will be happy - as soon as they see rocks they disintegrate. My sidewalls are shot, I've had numerous punctures but at least they are quiet on road. The sidewalls do seem to bag out a lot more than other tyres i've seen for any given air pressure - this may be adding to the problems. By less than 20,000kms i had replaced two of them and have serious cut on the sidewalls of the remaining.

rick130
3rd April 2019, 07:08 AM
I'm surprised no ones mentioned Michelin's LTX Force AT tyre.

A milder AT, I think they'd be worth a look.

Konradical
3rd April 2019, 09:32 AM
Yes Nitto Terrain Grapper G2 265/60R18

They now have 25,000km and have great grip and are wearing well.

Were cheap as well - on a buy 3 get a 4th free worked out at just under $200 ea.I have the original version of these tyres. I love them.

I have them in a 265/50R20 on our D4 and in a 285/75R16 on my RRC.

Grippy, good on the wet season roads, good in sand and not overly harsh in overall ride quality. They look the goods too!

But the ones fitted to the D4 are up around 35,000kms now and I'm not sure if it's because we are back in the Adelaide suburbs or they are getting worn, but you can start to hear them. Mostly when the window is down and very faintly if you listen for them in without the radio on, but you can hear them. My partner seems to have ultrasonic hearing and even she said they were getting noisier.

By all means, they are not terrible and I am not regretting any decision, just outlining what I have heard previous about them getting noisier over time.

Not worried about this in the RRC as I am barely able to hear the radio at times, but also because I have only about a thousand Kay's on them.

I would second or third the recommendation of this tyre, not just because they are made well, good quality or just look good, but they are priced very well.

Also they have a different pattern on each side wall so you have a choice.

Mog60
3rd April 2019, 09:37 AM
Just to provide a different perspective to everyone else's glowing praise of the D697's, I've had a shocking run with mine.
Consider them a highway tyre and you will be happy - as soon as they see rocks they disintegrate. My sidewalls are shot, I've had numerous punctures but at least they are quiet on road. The sidewalls do seem to bag out a lot more than other tyres i've seen for any given air pressure - this may be adding to the problems. By less than 20,000kms i had replaced two of them and have serious cut on the sidewalls of the remaining.

Same here. I went with these because of all the positive comments that I read at the time, but after a few sessions of off roading they all developed what looked to me like serious deep cuts to the tread area and on one the side wall was badly gashed which made it a write off. I guess it's what you put them through and a bit of luck too, but I will look elsewhere next time.

Graeme
3rd April 2019, 11:51 AM
I'm surprised no ones mentioned Michelin's LTX Force AT tyre.

A milder AT, I think they'd be worth a look.
These are on my list of possibilities if I can't find a suitable 20" for my use so convert to 18".

letherm
3rd April 2019, 11:56 AM
I'm surprised no ones mentioned Michelin's LTX Force AT tyre.

A milder AT, I think they'd be worth a look.

Yes, that's what I have on mine and what I meant when I said I have Michelins in my earlier post. I couldn't remember the name off the top of my head and it was too cold to go outside. Very happy with them albeit haven't had the chance to try off road.

Martin

Disco-tastic
3rd April 2019, 12:07 PM
Just to provide a different perspective to everyone else's glowing praise of the D697's, I've had a shocking run with mine.
Consider them a highway tyre and you will be happy - as soon as they see rocks they disintegrate. My sidewalls are shot, I've had numerous punctures but at least they are quiet on road. The sidewalls do seem to bag out a lot more than other tyres i've seen for any given air pressure - this may be adding to the problems. By less than 20,000kms i had replaced two of them and have serious cut on the sidewalls of the remaining.I have 2 D697s with deep cuts in the sidewall from some fairly nasty rocks. No ill behaviour of either of them though, and all four are wearing pretty evenly. I would get them again for touring but for playing something with a tougher sidewall would be better

scarry
3rd April 2019, 05:58 PM
Some of those 697 sizes have no where near the load rating of something like a BFG A/T in the same size.

Although noisier,the BFG is a very strong tyre.

After 20yrs of running them,i have only had one slow puncture,a large teck screw through the tyre,which was worn out anyway.

In fact,for remote area travel,desert trips,Cape trips,etc,i have stopped taking two spares,unless the tyres are pretty worn,in that case i just take a carcase instead of a full second spare wheel.And a plug kit.

DiscoMick
4th April 2019, 08:44 PM
I looked up BFG ATs in my Defender's size of LT235/85/16 AT and the load rating is 120. My Hankook Dynapro ATs in the same size are rated at 116.

Ozzy119
5th April 2019, 05:58 AM
I feel happy to be part of the pack. Safety in numbers ha ha.

My BFG KO2 (43K km's and about 2.5 yrs old now) are now hideously noisy between 45-65 km per hr. They weren't at all when new.
I've also had D697 and experienced similar noise problems after about similar wear use, but less age. I couldn't believe it was tyre related at first so had the mechanic looking for all sorts of possible hardware issues ha ha.

Personally (had Cooper, Bridgestone and BFG) I feel very confident with the BFG. For me its all about the weight capacity of the tyre. Then the sidewall bag out. The Coopers were the worst for that. The Birdsville Track really chopped up the D697.
BFGs are looking fine, but with possible uneven wear (I live near many roundabouts, so rotate very regularly) and age has really brought on the resonance in the cabin.

Could be new shoe time, at less than 50km (which is a bit annoying) but then, so is the noise. !!!

Graeme
5th April 2019, 07:02 AM
I persisted with mine to get 70K out of them but was not pleased to find that I had been driving on 2 with quite a hole in the inside edge of the tread and cracks all around the top of the inside sidewalls of the 2 tyres that were last on the rear. I know that rear tyres get pelted with rocks thrown-up by the front tyres but can't explain all the cracks. I suspect the holes developed from early cracks that progressed into the tread.

jonesy63
8th April 2019, 08:15 PM
I'll throw my 20c in the mix with this take - totally different from most offered.

The title of this thread is quietest AT tyre and I would nominate the Yokohama Geolandar AT/S. No, it doesn't have the huge load rating of others mentioned - but it is still rated higher than the wheels!

I had a couple of sets on my D3 and they were great. Went everywhere others with LT tyres did - without the noise and extra kg weight.

rdenyer
9th April 2019, 05:41 PM
I'll throw my 20c in the mix with this take - totally different from most offered.

The title of this thread is quietest AT tyre and I would nominate the Yokohama Geolandar AT/S. No, it doesn't have the huge load rating of others mentioned - but it is still rated higher than the wheels!

I had a couple of sets on my D3 and they were great. Went everywhere others with LT tyres did - without the noise and extra kg weight.


Just about to go on to my third set after I ditched the factory tyres on MY2005 D3 very early in their life , although the Nittos look tempting, thing is I now have enough average Geolandar AT/S tyres on rims, I can easily make up six good matching wheels to take away on trips.

Best local price I can find on the Geolandar AT/S. is around $275 each

TuffRR
4th May 2019, 12:24 PM
Just to provide a different perspective to everyone else's glowing praise of the D697's, I've had a shocking run with mine.
Consider them a highway tyre and you will be happy - as soon as they see rocks they disintegrate. My sidewalls are shot, I've had numerous punctures but at least they are quiet on road. The sidewalls do seem to bag out a lot more than other tyres i've seen for any given air pressure - this may be adding to the problems. By less than 20,000kms i had replaced two of them and have serious cut on the sidewalls of the remaining.

Yep, love my D697's.... [bighmmm]

150631

DiscoJeffster
4th May 2019, 02:13 PM
A mere flesh wound! [emoji2]

Strangerover
4th May 2019, 03:39 PM
Just about to go on to my third set after I ditched the factory tyres on MY2005 D3 very early in their life , although the Nittos look tempting, thing is I now have enough average Geolandar AT/S tyres on rims, I can easily make up six good matching wheels to take away on trips.

Best local price I can find on the Geolandar AT/S. is around $275 eachI've had a set of Geolandars on my L322, won't get them again as I do take the vehicle off-road. They're excellent on road, ok off-road but sadly not up to the rigours of Vic high country tracks. I've cut 2 and completely destroyed a third. Very soft sidewalls, which contributes to their comfort but not their longevity. I'm now down to 2 and have put a set of chinese Roadclaws on the front, they're not LT construction either but have a more aggressive pattern. No noticeable increase in road noise, definitely better off-road traction than the Geolandars. I'm on 265/60/18. They'll do for the meantime and seem ok so far.
Next set will be LT construction and probably a bit taller. I'll be looking for a second set of rims to put them on too, not keen on driving around the suburbs with a harder and heavier tyre.

TuffRR
4th May 2019, 03:40 PM
Time for new tyres. Sick of replacing these D697's. Pretty much could be on a whole new set of others given how many of these I've had to replace over the last little while. I think this will be the fourth one needing to be replaced in the last 2 years / 20,000kms.

Now to decide between KO2's or STMaxx. The resonance issues others have with the BFG's are putting me off a bit. I know some others aren't fans of the Coopers, but i had a pretty good run out of the STMaxx on previous cars.

trout1105
5th May 2019, 04:49 AM
I ran Yokohama AT's for about 15 years untill I tried a set of Mickey Thompson ATZ P3's.
The P3's are a bit noisy compaird to the Yoko's But they are a far better tyre off and on the road in my experience.

rick130
5th May 2019, 08:24 AM
Getting a little OT I know, but....

The problem is the limited range of LT tyres in 265/60R18.
BFG, Mickey T and Cooper?

A number are available in XL construction, which is a big step up from passenger car tyres, e.g. Falken, Toyo and Nitto, but that still isn't LT.
My old girl spent most of her life operating from Alice Springs on HT tyres with the worst that happened being a set of Toyo's going eggy. The current GT Radials have survived the East and West McConnell's, the Entire Valley, Painted Desert, Flinders Ranges and some pretty average roads at warp speed between Menindee and Wilcannia without issue.
Just pot luck on the PO and my part.

Heavily leaning toward Falken's atm purely because of the construction.
I'd love to try the Pirelli ATR Plus, the local the blood really rates them so far but they are only available in a 110H load rating in 265/60-18.
Go up to the 265/65R18 and they jump up to a 114T load/speed rating but I think I'll have clearance/rubbing issues.

DeanoH
5th May 2019, 09:37 AM
Getting a little OT I know, but....

The problem is the limited range of LT tyres in 265/60R18 .............................. Go up to the 265/65R18 and they jump up to a 114T load/speed rating but I think I'll have clearance/rubbing issues.

About 1/2" all round Rick, is it really that tight ? as a bonus you'll end up with a more accurate speedo :)

Deano :)

Parso
5th May 2019, 09:43 AM
Always heard good reports of the D697's. I am looking at trying the Falken Wildpeak AT3 in a 265/60. Happy hunting.

I'm thinking that way too, especially since Yokohama isn't doing any deals this month. Let me know if you get some, looks just to be over $1000 fitted through tyresales.

EastFreo
5th May 2019, 10:15 AM
I replaced my original cross contacts with BFG KO2s last year. Have done almost 50,000km on them and really happy. Importantly wife is happy too and seem very quiet (to us at least in my 2014 Defender).

We use on on highway but also a lot on gravel and through our farm - some of which is very hilly, rocky and boggy! The BFGs power through everything.

Highly recommend and hope my next set is as good.

WhiteD3
5th May 2019, 01:49 PM
Geolander or Scorpion. Wear well, quiet, good grip.

rick130
5th May 2019, 06:19 PM
About 1/2" all round Rick, is it really that tight ? as a bonus you'll end up with a more accurate speedo :)

Deano :)

For the D2 Deano, and it's stock height.

Graeme
5th May 2019, 06:36 PM
I'd love to try the Pirelli ATR Plus, the local the blood really rates them so far but they are only available in a 110H load rating in 265/60-18.They're also available in 255/60R18 XL with LI 112.

Lukeis
6th May 2019, 02:08 PM
Just waiting on my new rims to arrive then I think I’ll try out the pirelli ATR + and let the group know what it’s like

i happened to notice the new Mercedes 4wd Ute has them from the factory and figured they mustn’t be too loud if Mercedes are willing to put them on a brand new test drive car

tempted to go and test drive the car just for this purpose

scarry
6th May 2019, 03:32 PM
For the D2 Deano, and it's stock height.

Or you could go back to 16’s,then there are quite a few options.

I am guessing a set of OEM rims that size would be easy to source and reasonably cheap.

Are your 18’s OEM wheels?

Just asking because they were not that common,fitted to a few models and the run out ‘Town’ Classics.

rick130
6th May 2019, 07:18 PM
Or you could go back to 16’s,then there are quite a few options.

I am guessing a set of OEM rims that size would be easy to source and reasonably cheap.

Are your 18’s OEM wheels?

Just asking because they were not that common,fitted to a few models and the run out ‘Town’ Classics.

Actually have a set of both OE rims Paul. The 18's are genuine Hurricanes, they look sexy. [biggrin][bigwhistle]
I was going to mount some aggressive AT's on the 16's, eg Dura Tracs for big trips and milder AT's like Michelins LTX Force on the 18's for 'local' trips in the National Parks around here and normal use, but I'm loving the way the 18's with Pirelli Verde's behave on the blacktop.
Did I mention they look sexy? [bigwhistle][biggrin]

scarry
7th May 2019, 06:03 AM
Actually have a set of both OE rims Paul. The 18's are genuine Hurricanes, they look sexy. [biggrin][bigwhistle]
I was going to mount some aggressive AT's on the 16's, eg Dura Tracs for big trips and milder AT's like Michelins LTX Force on the 18's for 'local' trips in the National Parks around here and normal use, but I'm loving the way the 18's with Pirelli Verde's behave on the blacktop.
Did I mention they look sexy? [bigwhistle][biggrin]



Well we need some pics[thumbsupbig]

If they are that sexxy

Melbourne Park
7th May 2019, 11:06 AM
Just remember that worn tyres get very noisy. New tyres are quiet. All of them most likely (of a type ie AT tyres).

The real question is how noisy are they at 40K mileage? And like frogs in a saucepan on the stove, the increase in noise is so gradual it creeps up on us pretty much un-noticed.

shamirj
7th May 2019, 11:56 AM
hi all,

Always been a fan of the AT tyres and this was my first experience on KO2's on my D3 (vehicle bought with these tyres already fitted on) and not a fan. They maybe great tyres but the noise is annoying particularly low speeds 40-70kms. I still have enough tyre to last a while but am thinking more to replace to a quiter tyre like a AT, my dilema is i have 4x KO2 with steel wheels and one alloy spare with a diff tyre.

scarry
7th May 2019, 01:36 PM
Just remember that worn tyres get very noisy. New tyres are quiet. All of them most likely (of a type ie AT tyres).

The real question is how noisy are they at 40K mileage? And like frogs in a saucepan on the stove, the increase in noise is so gradual it creeps up on us pretty much un-noticed.

Ko2’s drone at around 60km/hr from new,as did the KO,so they are no quieter than the old model.

I have tried different pressures,etc,but can’t stop the noise.

This is for the D4.I didn’t notice any droning when I had them on the D2.

They don’t seem to drone on a mates LC200.

But I would rather put up with a bit of noise,than have tyre issues.

Melbourne Park
7th May 2019, 02:23 PM
Ko2’s drone at around 60km/hr from new,as did the KO,so they are no quieter than the old model.

I have tried different pressures,etc,but can’t stop the noise.

This is for the D4.I didn’t notice any droning when I had them on the D2.

..

That's strange - I have a D4 2014 HSE - no droning on mine. How old are yours? How many Ks? Mine are 265/65/18s. Who knows, even profile may influence sound heard inside the cabin.Heaps quieter then the very worn Grabbers. I thought they did have some noise once though - but I had a rear window cracked open! I have a half sized roof platform though which does add to the noise a little. Not at 60KMH though. Drone could also be a diff or drivetrain sound. Michelin changed the KO2 product too, but I did not have them before, so I don't know if there was a noise difference. IMO newer designs are quieter when new. But its also likely IMO that when worn newer designs will be noisier - to encourage consumers to replace their tyres earlier than is necessary. Not a Green attitude but that is today's world. don't know the differences between the previous KO2s and the ones we buy today.

scarry
8th May 2019, 09:53 AM
That's strange - I have a D4 2014 HSE - no droning on mine. How old are yours? How many Ks? Mine are 265/65/18s. Who knows, even profile may influence sound heard inside the cabin.Heaps quieter then the very worn Grabbers. I thought they did have some noise once though - but I had a rear window cracked open! I have a half sized roof platform though which does add to the noise a little. Not at 60KMH though. Drone could also be a diff or drivetrain sound. Michelin changed the KO2 product too, but I did not have them before, so I don't know if there was a noise difference. IMO newer designs are quieter when new. But its also likely IMO that when worn newer designs will be noisier - to encourage consumers to replace their tyres earlier than is necessary. Not a Green attitude but that is today's world. don't know the differences between the previous KO2s and the ones we buy today.

Mine now have around 18 000km on them,still droning.

Many others on here have the same issue in D4’s with these tyres.

I agree though everyone’s hearing is different.

Melbourne Park
8th May 2019, 03:06 PM
Mine now have around 18 000km on them,still droning.

Many others on here have the same issue in D4’s with these tyres.

I agree though everyone’s hearing is different.

Well my BFGs are currently quieter than the tyres delivered with my D4. My original factory wheels and tyres have under 13,000 km usage.

I recommend putting your vehicle in neutral at your 60 KMH noise point. It's possible you are hearing a drivetrain harmonic. From a noisy CV joint perhaps. I've had an issue with such a noise in my wife's RX Lexus. The CV joint was replaced. You could sense/hear it at about 78 to 85 KHM. Well I could - it never bothered my wife. Lexus replaced it.

On the road with the wind behind my D4, the vehicle with the BFGs is remarkably quiet. hence why I am surprised you are saying the BFGs have quite some noise and at a particular speed.

NavyDiver
8th May 2019, 03:35 PM
I assumed this would have been covered already but a search of quietest all terrain didn’t produce anything

I like the look and confidence of all terrain tyres but HATE with a passion the sound of the tyres of my KO2 tyres rolling along the road.

Im looking for a new set and hoping someone with experience can tell me if there are any silent tyres they have found?

Considering the following options:
pirelli ATR
pirelli ATR Plus
continental crosscontact ATR
Maxiis AT771
D697

In reality I’m far less likely to go or want to go digging in any mud, I will go off-road but the vast majority will be on a beach and only occasionally on rocky roads so it begs the question why I don’t just go highway tyres.. I guess I like to have the option when needed

pirelli ATR are much quieter than Grabbers. HIGHWAY Tires!!! NOOOOOOO my replacement disco had them. lowering tire pressures killed 3!

The sidewalls were not suitable in my very breif and nasty experience. I knew I would have to replace them. I was told by a few they were fine for a trip to and from Perth. They were except for all the 4wd parts!!

SJC
9th May 2019, 12:15 PM
Hi, I have Pirelli ATR + fitted to my D4 on TuffAnt 18’s and have done about 2000k and they very quiet on road. I Previously had Nitto Terra Grappler’s fitted on factory 20’s and the Pirelli’s are heaps quieter.
With Nitto’s I thought that I had a diff problem with the whine that was generated.
i am going to Lorella Springs in June and if the ATR+ perform as well as the ATR’s I have had in past I will be very happy.

Garfield
9th May 2019, 02:07 PM
Ko2’s drone at around 60km/hr from new,as did the KO,so they are no quieter than the old model.

I have tried different pressures,etc,but can’t stop the noise.

This is for the D4.I didn’t notice any droning when I had them on the D2.

They don’t seem to drone on a mates LC200.

But I would rather put up with a bit of noise,than have tyre issues.

I have KO2's as well on my D4, and yes tyres from new, they do drone between 45 to 60km/h - especially on overrun slowing down to lights. Wheel alignment and regular wheel rotation made no change. But saying that very happy with the tyre as a compromise, both on and off road.

Jueylea
9th May 2019, 06:23 PM
I was running Maxxis at980 on the 19 inch rims, they hummed as expected for an AT, similar to the many d697's I had on other vehicles.
Now on 18 Tuffant have a slightly less aggressive Maxxis 771 in 285 60 18 ( kind of like d697's) and barely hear them. There is a couple versions, mine being 123 load rated.

Lukeis
9th May 2019, 06:50 PM
I have KO2's as well on my D4, and yes tyres from new, they do drone between 45 to 60km/h - especially on overrun slowing down to lights. Wheel alignment and regular wheel rotation made no change. But saying that very happy with the tyre as a compromise, both on and off road.

My ko2’s started like that, just noisy in that speed bracket but as they are now much more worn I can’t get them to shut up no matter what speed I do. Probably helps scare the wildlife away so that’s a plus

PaleRider
15th May 2019, 08:20 PM
Hi, I have Pirelli ATR + fitted to my D4 on TuffAnt 18’s and have done about 2000k and they very quiet on road. I Previously had Nitto Terra Grappler’s fitted on factory 20’s and the Pirelli’s are heaps quieter.
With Nitto’s I thought that I had a diff problem with the whine that was generated.
i am going to Lorella Springs in June and if the ATR+ perform as well as the ATR’s I have had in past I will be very happy.

Hi SJC
I have the Tuffants coming this week.
What size did you put on with the ATR+ ?
cheers

vbrab
18th May 2019, 11:37 AM
I was running Hercules 265/65 18" (all that was available) and found they were a little noisy, but wore well enough.
Then I switched to Hankook 265/65 18" Dyna pro. Not the full Monty All terrain, but a crossover 3/4 AT pattern.
They are very quiet on bitumen, and harder wearing than the Hercules. here they are $300 each, but in city $220-230.
I've used Yokahama Geolanders on wife's D1, they were very quiet also, and have a harder treadwear rating than Hankook.
Next time I am near a city I will be looking for them to switch to, as occasionally dealers special them at Hankook prices (or close).
I've found running 265/65 no problem and slightly less revs cruising, and met another driver running 70 profile, and reporting occasional scrubbing in extreme turning, but otherwise nil issues.
vbrab

DiscoMick
18th May 2019, 02:17 PM
I also find our Hankooks ATs very quiet.

TuffRR
18th May 2019, 04:33 PM
anyone running a 265/65/18 and fitting snow chains?

vbrab
25th May 2019, 04:50 PM
I live remote, so tyres come dearer than they should (perhaps)
Had to buy 1 hankook 265/65x18 to replace damaged tyre. Local tyrpower was $295.
Just bought 4 online ($205 ea) delivered free to Alice, and fitted $932 for 4. including disposal.
Even at $35 a tyre to fit and balance, it looks like Hankooks are very cheap at present.
Geolanders also looked cheap.

ramblingboy42
25th May 2019, 05:06 PM
anyone running a 265/65/18 and fitting snow chains?

thats a massive amount of chain to fit to a wheel....how heavy is a set? have you done it yourself?

do you fit the chains on the wheels at the side of the road or carry spare wheels prefitted?

I have fitted chains before on 13" wheels and it was such a pain in the arse that I decided I'd never do it again.

Strangerover
25th May 2019, 06:56 PM
thats a massive amount of chain to fit to a wheel....how heavy is a set? have you done it yourself?

do you fit the chains on the wheels at the side of the road or carry spare wheels prefitted?

I have fitted chains before on 13" wheels and it was such a pain in the arse that I decided I'd never do it again.I have chains for my 265/60/18's, fitting them isn't a problem. They're not particularly heavy either.

TuffRR
26th May 2019, 06:28 AM
I have chains for my 265/60/18's, fitting them isn't a problem. They're not particularly heavy either.
Yeah, no problem here with the 60's for me either. But clearance with chains is tight with standard OEM tyres so wondering if going up to 65's is just that little bit too much.

Lukeis
6th June 2019, 05:58 PM
update

I finally bought the Pirelli all terrain plus (265/60/18) today, haven’t been over 80km he but so far I haven’t heard them at all.

Tread at looks good and grippy but road was dry.

will be on the freeway tomorrow and off-road over the weekend so I will post a further update after that. So far I’m very happy over the KO2’s!!

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scarry
6th June 2019, 07:45 PM
From the Pirelli site,that tyre in 265/60/18 has a low load rating,110.

I don't know about the legalities,but it may be the absolute minimum allowed on a D4?

Lukeis
6th June 2019, 07:47 PM
How would I confirm this? I tow so I guess I want to be sure

Narangga
6th June 2019, 08:02 PM
Page 274 in my D3 owner's manual has the figures. I assume it is in the D4 manual too.

Graeme
6th June 2019, 08:06 PM
The tyre placard shows the lowest load rating, which IIRC is 109.

The 255/60R18 AT+ has LI 112.

scarry
6th June 2019, 08:23 PM
Mistake[biggrin][bigsad]

Lukeis
6th June 2019, 08:33 PM
I have the 265/60 which says “110H m+S”

According to google this gives me 1060kg per wheel load rating. As I have just upgraded my wheels from the stock 18” LR ones which have a weight rating of only 940kg surely having a tyre with so much more would mean it is still ok?

fyi the new wheels in the pic above are rated to 1050kg

Graeme
6th June 2019, 09:13 PM
LI 110 will be fine. I know a person who bought the AT+ in 265/60R18 rather than 255/60/R18 because he has lots of usable spares in this size and its a popular size if he needs a tyre urgently. He's travelled some of the worst tracks in Central Australia on GY Silent Armors that also had a LI of 110 and regularly does outings on mountain tracks.

LRD414
7th June 2019, 06:03 AM
I don’t recognise those wheels Luke. What are they?

Regards,
Scott

Lukeis
7th June 2019, 06:16 AM
They are called “wolfrace assassin”

they ey are the result of a very long search trying to find 18” wheels with,
the right centre bore
the correct weight rating
the correct nut spacing
gloss black

was much harder than you’d think!

rick130
7th June 2019, 12:18 PM
FWIW there aren't many AT's in LT construction 265/60-R18.
Off the top of my head BFG, Mickey T and....?
There are a couple of XL construction tyres (114 load rating) being Falken Wildpeak and Nitto TerraGrapler.
From what I've seen everyone elses tyres, or at least the ones I've been interested in are a 110 load rating, which I find odd as it's a Hilux/Pajero/Prado size and so quite common, which is why I'm interested in it.

scarry
7th June 2019, 06:36 PM
And Bridgestone 697,265/60/18,at 114 load rating,gets some good reviews,and used by some on here.

Lukeis
7th June 2019, 06:46 PM
I took the new tyres up the freeway today with a caravan and didn’t hear the tyres at all. Very happy about that

I should add, they come with a two year warranty which says if you get a puncture and it can’t be repaired they will be replaced. Seems pretty good

rick130
8th June 2019, 09:22 AM
And Bridgestone 697,265/60/18,at 114 load rating,gets some good reviews,and used by some on here.Thanks Paul, forgot about that one.
From what people that have used both have told me the Falken is better off road.

Interestingly my step dad drove their D2 all over the Territory on 109H tyres, often dragging an off road camper. (Mum and he live in Alice Springs)
They've explored the Hart's Range and East and West McDonnell's extensively going well off the beaten path and places where there were no visible tracks anymore just exploring.
They had Toyo's go eggy, but the cheapy GT Radials survived ok.

Edit. Add the Maxxis 980 to the XL/114 load rating list too

scarry
8th June 2019, 04:02 PM
Thanks Paul, forgot about that one.
From what people that have used both have told me the Falken is better off road.

Interestingly my step dad drove their D2 all over the Territory on 109H tyres, often dragging an off road camper. (Mum and he live in Alice Springs)
They've explored the Hart's Range and East and West McDonnell's extensively going well off the beaten path and places where there were no visible tracks anymore just exploring.
They had Toyo's go eggy, but the cheapy GT Radials survived ok.

Edit. Add the Maxxis 980 to the XL/114 load rating list too

Just remembered,Tombie loved those 697's.Hated BFG.

Yes its weird what some get away with,and others have no luck at all.
Probably due to driving style,pressures,etc.

One of my brothers has gone from BFG KO to 697,and loves the 697,he lives in Darwin,has a Prado.

One of the other brothers ran Coopers on his D1 for years,never had an issue,but many on here hate them.

Many on the Tojo forums love the later Toyo's,particularly on the 70 series.

For me i use the heavily load rated BFG,which seem fantastic and forgiving as i don't always have the correct pressure for the conditions.Never had an issue,had them on the D2's as well,one puncture in 20yrs,good old tech screw.
But they are droney at certain speeds in the D4,where a mate has them on has LC 200,no noise at all any speed.

Good luck with your choice.

rick130
8th June 2019, 09:43 PM
Just remembered,Tombie loved those 697's.Hated BFG.

Yes its weird what some get away with,and others have no luck at all.
Probably due to driving style,pressures,etc.

One of my brothers has gone from BFG KO to 697,and loves the 697,he lives in Darwin,has a Prado.



Yep, and Mike also really likes Toyo's and had nice things to say about Falkens.
Toyo's have a really good rep in the Territory all round.
I actually have one of my step dad's buggered Toyo's here and it's actually a 106H! as were the GT's. [biggrin]

I just found Dunlops Grandtrek AT3G is also a 114XL rated tyre in that size. And a bit of useless info for everyone, Dunlop Australia is owned by Goodyear, but the Japanese manufactured Dunlops are made by Sumitomo (Falken's parent company) for Goodyear.

Narangga
9th June 2019, 02:43 PM
One of my brothers has gone from BFG KO to 697,and loves the 697,he lives in Darwin,has a Prado.



Please send me his rego so I know who to avoid! [bigwhistle] :wasntme:

scarry
9th June 2019, 03:44 PM
Please send me his rego so I know who to avoid! [bigwhistle] :wasntme:

He might need your rego as well.[thumbsupbig][biggrin][tonguewink]

Oh,Nightcliff is the suburb[bighmmm]

Narangga
9th June 2019, 07:12 PM
He might need your rego as well.[thumbsupbig][biggrin][tonguewink]

Oh,Nightcliff is the suburb[bighmmm]

[smilebigeye] I only venture to Nightcliff to have the D3 serviced. :thumbsup:

BrianElloy
9th June 2019, 08:33 PM
And Bridgestone 697,265/60/18,at 114 load rating,gets some good reviews,and used by some on here.

I have these tyres and LOVE EM