Vegan......

[weeds]

Dropped into my favorite juice bar and they had Vegan Nachos.......damn tasty

Going to hunt for recipe

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[Homestar]

Would be better smothered in melted cheese.... 😉

Mmmm, now I feel like Nachos...

[weeds]

Would be better smothered in melted cheese.... [emoji6]

Mmmm, now I feel like Nachos...

Dairy free cheese I hope

[LRJim]

Would be better smothered in melted cheese.... [emoji6]


And alongside some Beef fajitas [emoji106]

[DiscoMick]

Or sliced bacon.

[weeds]

Or sliced bacon.

Yep

The Best Vegan Bacon: How To Make Vegan Bacon Using Rice Paper | The Edgy Veg (https://www.theedgyveg.com/2016/05/30/vegan-bacon-make-vegan-bacon-using-rice-paper/)

[LRJim]

No such thing as vegan bacon, its called fried ricepaper 🤣

[Ferret]

Bought some antiseptic cream to restock my medical kit the other day. It says on the box it's 'Vegan'. I haven't tasted it yet but I'm not hopeful.

[Saitch]

Bought some antiseptic cream to restock my medical kit the other day. It says on the box it's 'Vegan'. I haven't tasted yet but I'm not hopeful.

Try with a light sprinkle of "Trill." You may be surprised!

[PhilipA]

BUT WHY?
Eating a cocktail of toxic **** when you can have the original just as easily.
Regards Philip A

[Homestar]

Dairy free cheese I hope

Nope, just finished a big plateful - I really did feel like a good feed of them after your post. Mine has beef in it and plenty of cheese - real moo cow cheese, not dairy free.

[LRJim]

Nope, just finished a big plateful - I really did feel like a good feed of them after your post. Mine has beef in it and plenty of cheese - real moo cow cheese, not dairy free.Hahaha im having nachos for dinner also, been thinking about it all day 🤣🤣

[ChookD2]

Dairy free cheese I hope

If is does not contain dairy, it is not cheese! Cheese is made from milk. Milk comes from cows, goats, camels, yaks and I'm sure many other mamals, depending on your geographical location and customs. Milk does not come from beans, nuts, rainbows or trees.

[rick130]

If is does not contain dairy, it is not cheese! Cheese is made from milk. Milk comes from cows, goats, camels, yaks and I'm sure many other mamals, depending on your geographical location and customs. Milk does not come from beans, nuts, rainbows or trees.Oh chook, I beg to differ...

YouTube (https://youtu.be/JJCTIPWPNtw)


[emoji23]

[Saitch]

Talk:Venezuelan Beaver cheese

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Is not this statement self-contradictory: "Venezuelan beavers apparently preferred, though Venezuela has no native beavers"? What this basically tells me is that this is just three words mentioned in a single Monty Python sketch, and not a real form of cheese at all. -R. fiend (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:R._fiend) 14:08, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
The fact that it's fictional is already mentioned in the article. The statement you mention above, however, is in reference to "various recipes for Venezuelan Beaver cheese have in fact been published" - I haven't seen these recipes myself, but I can easily imagine them calling for the milk from Venezuelan beavers as described. Bryan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Bryan_Derksen) 15:31, 17 August 2005 (UTC)But there are no Venezuelan beavers, or if they are, the fact that they are Venezuelan is completely incidental, sort of like British ostriches. And while Wikipedia does have plenty of entries for fictional things, it generally does not them for things mentioned once in passing by a single person in a minor skit. Is everything ever mentioned by John Cleese automatically encyclopedic? -R. fiend (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:R._fiend) 15:50, 17 August 2005 (UTC)I agree that if Venezuelan beaver cheese had only been mentioned once in passing, it wouldn't merit an article. However, the article states that it has been referenced by people other than John Cleese. I haven't seen the alleged published recipes (and I'd like to see an actual citation), but I do read Triangle and Robert (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_and_Robert), and can confirm that Venezuelan beaver cheese was involved in it. Factitious (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Factitious) 01:55, August 18, 2005 (UTC)Venezuelan beaver cheese is also mentioned in the game for Windows Computer Systems called: "Leisure Suit Larry 7" Published by "Sierra". In the part of the game where the character is located inside the kitchen of the ship, you have to look through all the food in there and when you find a gone bad fish wrapped in a magazine where you throw the fish away and put the magazine in the inventory and bring it back to read it, well it reads the recipe for "Venezuelan Beaver Cheese" where the ingredients are: "beaver milk from a Venezuelan beaver, a pinch of salt, rennet, lime juice substitute and a hint of mold". Also the back of the magazine has the recipe for Venezuelan beaver cheese and Kumquat quiche where the ingredients are beaver cheese and sliced kumquats.

[PhilipA]

I read just this morning on the web that the EU is clamping down on the use of meat terms like Hamburger when used by producers of vegan/vegetarian products made from extended vegetable protein of whatever.
There will be large fines apparently.
Regards Philip A

[DiscoMick]

Sounds fair enough. How can ham be vegan?

[DiscoMick]

I read that Argentina has beavers, so maybe they have visited Venezuela?
Do the British really have ostriches?

[stealth]

I AM NOT A VEGAN!

[ozscott]

If is does not contain dairy, it is not cheese! Cheese is made from milk. Milk comes from cows, goats, camels, yaks and I'm sure many other mamals, depending on your geographical location and customs. Milk does not come from beans, nuts, rainbows or trees.Yep...drinking the milk from another species...very natural.

Cheers

[ozscott]

I make a mean toastie with cashew nut 'cheese' that I make at home . Very very nice.

Cheershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190406/fa7334f5c583fdb622f6748c9f9276f0.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190406/cf6c738ef4b402ffc9420cd50faa183e.jpg

[ozscott]

I AM NOT A VEGAN!Why are you yelling...feeling threatened by vege power by any chance [emoji535]🤣🤣

[ozscott]

I saw Landline getting into it saying how much of soy and nut milks are water 🤣🤣🤣🤣 they obviously have not worked out yet how much of cows milk (especially skim) is water...

Also pretty ordinary when they were being derisive of soy milk in favour of dairy farmers when Landline is meant to do stories that assist all farmer (and Australia has a lot of soy farmers) (and that's without getting into health benefits of soy over cow milk).

Cheers

[PhilipA]

If you have ever wondered what is in some of the Soy milks on the market , this article explains that they boil soy in a vat of sulphuric acid then add caustic soda to denature the acid.
YUMM .

My understanding from when I was in the NSW Dept of Ag was that one of the major manufacturers of Soy milk used imported hydrolyzed soy protein
.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/467219-what-is-hydrolized-soy-protein/

Regards Philip A

[ozscott]

I only drink Bonsoy which is made using the traditional Japanese water method and no added oils. So I don't support our Soy farmers either in terms of soy milk but do in terms of Tofu. Cheers

[DiscoMick]

I like full cream milk from fat Friesan dairy cows grazed on real grass preferably from Eastern Victoria or northern NSW. Gimme that cream!

[ozscott]

I was raised on Jersey/Gernsey cross breeds milk and home churned butter. Non pasteurized and I now know from a PhD mate who did their PhD in science on that very point that we were probably all very lucky in that regard.

But. Will never go back. Each to their own.

Cheers

[rick130]

I only drink Bonsoy which is made using the traditional Japanese water method and no added oils. So I don't support our Soy farmers either in terms of soy milk but do in terms of Tofu. Cheers

The only soy to drink!

I have Bonsoy in my chai, purely for the taste/texture over cows juice.

But I do squeeze bovines for my piccolo's!

[ozscott]

It's great Rick. It wasn't some years ago when they were adding Iodine from seaweeds... but since it's very natural and all ingredients stated on the carton.

There is one that i have heard is even better Happy Happy Soy Boy...name will put some off but apparently it's the bees knees.

I just scored Bonsoy at $3.80 a litre so got a few.

Cheers

[rick130]

Generally Healthy Life have it at a much lower price than the major supermakets, ($3.80 rings a bell?) although I'm ****ed off with them ATM as a very good friend manages the local store and head office just issued them a shut down notice.....Rationalisation.
Their Raw C coconut water is stupidly cheap too. $2.95/litre. I buy it by the carton.

[Saitch]

Funny, isn't it. Coconut water is ridiculously cheap at $2.98 a litre but petrol, which takes a bit more refining, is way overpriced at $1.45 a litre.[biggrin]

[weeds]

Funny, isn't it. Coconut water is ridiculously cheap at $2.98 a litre but petrol, which takes a bit more refining, is way overpriced at $1.45 a litre.[biggrin]

Yep.....although I only paid $2.50/L for coconut water today, bargain.

[RANDLOVER]

I saw Landline getting into it saying how much of soy and nut milks............

A lot of the dairy industry wants nut milks re-named as "nut juice" that should put people off, yuck.

[rick130]

A lot of the dairy industry wants nut milks re-named as "nut juice" that should put people off, yuck.

I reckon dairy milk should be called bovine lactate juice too. [bigwhistle]
The coffee shops around here are used to me asking for cow's juice in my lattes these days [biggrin]

[Roverlord off road spares]

Science really needs to get serious and prove that the living organisms in vegetables feel pain, this will stop vegans eating them and then the Vegans will die out and leave the rest of humanity alone.

[ozscott]

I love it Mario. I generally leave everyone to their own. But can't resist lobbing on some topics. Whilst I dislike killing animals for me a massive part is the health aspect. I suspect for most Vegans it's a big part.

I'm not off raiding feedlots.

Cheers

[Saitch]

I wonder if carnivorous plants would survive, in normal health, on tofu.

Why aren't the concerned vegie people out eradicating meat eating plants, for that matter?

[rick130]

I love it Mario. I generally leave everyone to their own. But can't resist lobbing on some topics. Whilst I dislike killing animals for me a massive part is the health aspect. I suspect for most Vegans it's a big part.

I'm not off raiding feedlots.

CheersI had to go back to higher levels of protein than I could absorb in a vego diet, I was becoming insulin resistant and then found out I was salicylate intolerant so 'normal' ''healthy' green, leafy veggies and fruits inflame my gut, which explained a lot and makes being vego difficult.

I was a yoga teacher for years, taught seven classes a week at one point and when people find out you aren't vego, omg, the condemnation begins! (And I bet that's a shock for the majority on here! [emoji23])
And you won't find a more vain, judgemental and superior group than a bunch of yoga teachers in one place at the same time! [emoji23]
I do battle the guilt of animals suffering for my food though.

[ozscott]

That's a bugger Rick. A whole foods vege diet is the best for most people but if you have an intolerance or can't absorb enough protein then you just do whatever works.

Cheers

[Saitch]

I had to go back to higher levels of protein than I could absorb in a vego diet and then found out I was salicylate intolerant so 'normal' ''healthy' green, leafy veggies and fruits inflame my gut, which explained a lot and makes being vego difficult.

I was a yoga teacher for years, taught seven classes a week at one point and when people find out you aren't vego, omg, the condemnation begins! (And I bet that's a shock for the majority on here! [emoji23])
And you won't find a more vain, judgemental and superior group than a bunch of yoga teachers in one place at the same time! [emoji23]
I do battle the guilt of animals suffering for my food though.

Well, Rick, you must be doing something right as you look a lot healthier than a lot of people I see wandering around, willy nilly which side of the Great Food Debate they're on.

[rick130]

Well, Rick, you must be doing something right as you look a lot healthier than a lot of people I see wandering around, willy nilly which side of the Great Food Debate they're on.Thanks Steve,
I reckon I look and go pretty good for 74! [emoji6]
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

[stealth]

Why are you yelling...feeling threatened by vege power by any chance [emoji535]🤣🤣

NO IT’S JUST THAT VEGANS LOVE TO SHOUT OUT THAT THEY ARE VEGAN.
WHY SHOULD THEY HAVE ALL THE FUN?

[ozscott]

I never shout it. No T shirts, hardly ever mention it. But if someone starts talking fake milk or soy killing off sperm or other nonsense I am not shy. Likewise I don't mind throwing in my 2 cents if people talk about cows milk as 'natural' and cheese from a lactating cow as natural versus nut milks and nut cheeses etx...

So...why eat nut cheese when the 'real ' cheese is available. Think about that...nuts versus lactation from another species...mmmm[emoji1787]

CHEERS

[ChookD2]

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[Arapiles]

If you have ever wondered what is in some of the Soy milks on the market , this article explains that they boil soy in a vat of sulphuric acid then add caustic soda to denature the acid.
YUMM .

My understanding from when I was in the NSW Dept of Ag was that one of the major manufacturers of Soy milk used imported hydrolyzed soy protein
.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/467219-what-is-hydrolized-soy-protein/

Regards Philip A


Which is why I use Kikkoman soy sauce, because it is actually brewed and not "hydrolyzed".

[ramblingboy42]

I use it cause it tastes good .....along with other brewed products.

Beer is vegan isn't it?

[V8Ian]

I use it cause it tastes good .....along with other brewed products.

Beer is vegan isn't it?
Except for South Australian muck, that's been filtered thtough pigs.[bigwhistle]

[ramblingboy42]

I assume you mean West End?

Coopers is good.

[ChookD2]

Ok last one for me. And remember I'm just kidding, I don't care if you are a vegetarian, a vegan or a vampire, each to their own.

Plants Can Hear Themselves Being Eaten, And They Don’t Like It (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a11550/plants-can-hear-themselves-being-eaten-and-they-dont-like-it-17337795/)
Well I do care a little if you are a vampire, stop looking at my neck! :vampire:

[ramblingboy42]

The Secret Life of Plants.....who has read it?

[ozscott]

I use it cause it tastes good .....along with other brewed products.

Beer is vegan isn't it?No way. I just knocked off a good pale.

Cheers

[ChookD2]

Yep...drinking the milk from another species...very natural.

Cheers

Ok this is definately the last one.

I'd rather drink the milk than......

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2GHv3ltO_Q)

[V8Ian]

I assume you mean West End?

Coopers is good.
Google Image Result for https://untappd.akamaized.net/photos/2018_12_21/72bb3bff22a448f53f514eba3799c45c_640x640.jpg (https://images.app.goo.gl/wBBpfAnLD536wsad9)

This disgusting excuse for a beer was imported, by the semi load, during the six week, tear inducing strike at Milton.[bigsad]

[Saitch]

The Secret Life of Plants.....who has read it?

I had a quick leaf through it.

[weeds]

A couple of juices for breakfast

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190407/1e98260138ade2b46e2341083ce8c74d.jpg

Oh and grabbed a vegan nacho’s....will post a pic later....

[PhilipA]

So who makes non vegan orange juice?
Regards Philip A

[DiscoMick]

Tropicana orange juice is not vegan because it contains fish oil and gelatin.
Guiness is also not vegan because it contains isinglass made from fish bladders.
The good news is most beers are vegan, unless products have been added, which happens.

5 Surprising Drinks That Aren't Vegan Diet Friendly | Shape Magazine (https://www.shape.com/healthy-eating/healthy-drinks/5-surprising-drinks-arent-vegan)

[weeds]

So who makes non vegan orange juice?
Regards Philip A

Dunno.....didn’t buy orange juice.

BTW the vegan nachos were delicious once again.

[VladTepes]

I was wondering if someone would mention Southwark. Poisonous stuff.
(https://untappd.com/b/south-australian-brewing-co-southwark-bitter/15465)

A couple of juices for breakfast

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So the cut piece of fruit is supposed to hide the plastic container from enviro-freaks?

[RANDLOVER]

I reckon dairy milk should be called bovine lactate juice too. [bigwhistle]
The coffee shops around here are used to me asking for cow's juice in my lattes these days [biggrin]

Be careful what you ask for, they might just squeeze the juice of some hamburger mince meat into your coffee, as technically that'd be the same thing.

[Saitch]

Guiness is also not vegan because it contains isinglass made from fish bladders.


Mick, Guinness Extra Stout lacks Isinglass so, everyone can enjoy it[bigrolf]

In moderation, the wonderful brew is quite beneficial.

In moderation, mind.

[ozscott]

Guinness is eliminating fish guts from production to make vegan-friendly stout — Quartz (https://qz.com/972741/guinness-is-eliminating-fish-guts-from-production-to-make-vegan-friendly-stout/)

[rick130]

Be careful what you ask for, they might just squeeze the juice of some hamburger mince meat into your coffee, as technically that'd be the same thing.Good point!

I had a barista once say she'd spat in my coffee.

I said cool, it'll be just like getting a big tongue kiss from you!!
She was a bratty 18 or 19 and I was in my late 40's at the time!
The look on her face was priceless, especially as the rest of the staff took the **** out of her. [emoji23]

[RANDLOVER]

I thought that they spat in everyone's coffee as a lot of them have trained as barristers and end up baristas according to Malcolm Turnbull. Well not quite but the uni's train 15 000 a year but there are only 60 000 registered lawyers in Aus.

[Bigbjorn]

I googled "Venezuelan Beaver" and strangely got lots of photos of naked toothsome young women. Anyone care to explain why this is so?[bigsmile1]

[67hardtop]

Vegans are plant murderers

[Saitch]

I googled "Venezuelan Beaver" and strangely got lots of photos of naked toothsome young women. Anyone care to explain why this is so?[bigsmile1]

Look, I can't explain this but, if you put the link up, I'm certain that some members here will be able to advise you.

[DiscoMick]

I find that very puzzling. Do you get the same result for Argentinian beaver?

[DiscoMick]

I just Googled Venezuelan beaver and got a bunch of images of John Cleese. [emoji15]

[Bigbjorn]

I just Googled Venezuelan beaver and got a bunch of images of John Cleese. [emoji15]

We all know you have strange tastes.[bigwhistle]

[LRJim]

🤣🤣https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190412/3cdb5076f61c5a679d8ee7927bd52b6b.jpg

[ozscott]

Haha. Brilliant. I'm still getting myself some of that sweet sweet AV.

Cheers

[LRJim]

Are cars vegan-friendly?

Leather isn’t the only issue with vegan-friendly cars. Entertainment system screens contain liquid crystals that may be based on cholesterol taken from animals.*The rubber and plastic used to make tyres may be vulcanised and toughened using tallow (mutton fat), and even the steel used for a car’s frame may have been lubricated with animal fat.*

Vegan-friendly cars | 1 | BuyaCar (https://www.buyacar.co.uk/cars/878/vegan-friendly-cars?amp=)

For the Hardcore bafoons [emoji38]

[ozscott]

Don't know...but what I can confidently say is that my 17 year old 4.6 V8 and I (as a package) is putting out less emissions than a serious meat eater driving a Prius [emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji1787][emoji16][emoji16].

Cheerd

[DiscoMick]

Seriously doubt that. Your dirty V8 vs a Prius. Not much difference in emissions between you and a vegan.

[DiscoMick]

http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/food-carbon-footprint-diet

[rick130]

http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/food-carbon-footprint-dietI haven't actually researched it, but I strongly suspect that a lot of the beef studies in terms of carbon footpint and especially water consumption are based on the heavily corn fed diets of US feed lot beef.
Australian grass fed, and even the six week grain fattened beef common to supermarket beef would show a lot lower water usage and carbon consumed than their US produced counterparts.

[V8Ian]

Why are so many people concerned with what others eat? Personally, I don't care if folk want to eat poo sandwiches, as long as they don't want to kiss me, afterwards.

[DiscoMick]

I haven't actually researched it, but I strongly suspect that a lot of the beef studies in terms of carbon footpint and especially water consumption are based on the heavily corn fed diets of US feed lot beef.
Australian grass fed, and even the six week grain fattened beef common to supermarket beef would show a lot lower water usage and carbon consumed than their US produced counterparts.Yes, it doesn't say what the beef were fed on.
Also, it uses national averages and we know Americans are into supersizing their diets, so Australian averages might be lower.
I also thought it was interesting that 60% was the same across all the diet types.
Another interesting point was that changing from beef to chicken caused such a big reduction.
I wonder what effect eating fish would have?

[DiscoMick]

Why are so many people concerned with what others eat? Personally, I don't care if folk want to eat poo sandwiches, as long as they don't want to kiss me, afterwards.I think you're pretty safe there.

[Bigbjorn]

Why are so many people concerned with what others eat? Personally, I don't care if folk want to eat poo sandwiches, as long as they don't want to kiss me, afterwards.

Ian, you won't have a problem anywhere, any diet.[bigwhistle]

[rick130]

Yes, it doesn't say what the beef were fed on.
Also, it uses national averages and we know Americans are into supersizing their diets, so Australian averages might be lower.
I also thought it was interesting that 60% was the same across all the diet types.
Another interesting point was that changing from beef to chicken caused such a big reduction.
I wonder what effect eating fish would have?

Yep, I noticed that too.

[Eevo]

how do you know if there is a vegan in the room?

[EastFreo]

This is gold.
YouTube (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z0O_VYcsIk8)

Might have have to encourage this guy to do another with him (and a heap of friends) barging into pretend/staged vegan houses, filming while actors freak out at the invasion of privacy and having their kids filmed while people abuse them etc.

I say “pretend/staged” because farmers have more decency than to put real vegan families and children through what these vegan wannabe terrorists are prepared to put decent hard working farming families through.

[Fatso]

how do you know if there is a vegan in the room?

Dont worry they will tell you !!!!!!! . :banana::banana::banana:

[DiscoMick]

how do you know if there is a vegan in the room?Less farting than with meat eaters?

[Eevo]

Dont worry they will tell you !!!!!!! . :banana::banana::banana:

:thumbsup:

[Eevo]

Less farting than with meat eaters?

:thumbsdown:

[RANDLOVER]

Yes, it doesn't say what the beef were fed on.
Also, it uses national averages and we know Americans are into supersizing their diets, so Australian averages might be lower.
I also thought it was interesting that 60% was the same across all the diet types.
Another interesting point was that changing from beef to chicken caused such a big reduction.
I wonder what effect eating fish would have?

I also love how people think it would somehow be a great benefit to give cattle country over to growing crops (preferably kale and chia). Have they actually seen what cattle country looks like? It is normally dry, hilly, tree covered or the outback where it is not a ratio of cattle to acres but acres to one beast, and could never be ploughed for crops.

[Bigbjorn]

Less farting than with meat eaters?

Have you ever heard the comedy cassette "The World Farting Championships"?

The German World Champion was reputed to train on a diet of green cabbage and peas.

[DiscoMick]

Cabbage certainly does it for me. Horrible!

[PhilipA]

I find that eating asparagus is antisocial .
When you have a wee even 10 minutes after eating it , the smell of your wee is obnoxious.
All others at the urinal must be repulsed by the smell, and that is even before you have a cabbage fart.

Regard sPhilip A

[rick130]

Yet fermented cabbage combinations like all the sauerkraut's, kimchi's, etc don't make me anti social.

[DiscoMick]

I'm just naturally anti-social anyway.

[Bigbjorn]

Yet fermented cabbage combinations like all the sauerkraut's, kimchi's, etc don't make me anti social.

Good stuff. Garlic Mettwurst and weinkraut. Run your LR on the methane produced.