Parts from UK

[Fatso]

I have not purchased anything from the UK since anything under $1000 was GST and Duty free , done a search and looked at the internet for any info and i am just as confused now as when i started .

How is it done now for importing parts from the UK , can i just order from a seller in the UK and then do custems let us know when they arrive what is required to pay or do i need to fill out a heap of forms , or use a broker or something ?? , usually get most of my stuff from Oz outlets but sometimes the Oz price is way over the top .

[cjc_td5]

If under 1000AUD, just purchase and freight as normal. If a business, they should collect the GST from you at time of sale. If over 1000AUD then customs etc get involved and you could get whacked for duty etc. before it will be released into Australia.

[S3ute]

Hello from Brisbane.

Anything on eBay from overseas now gets the suck up to Harvey Norman Tax (let’s call a spade a spade here) deducted as part of the payment process - PayPal anyway.

Parts ordered through the main UK parts suppliers also have the tax included in the final amount due.

It was fairly hopeless for a while but seems to be handled ok now.

Cheers,

Neil

[Homestar]

It’s still easy, order as usual and if the supplier collects the GST when you order (most do, but still not all), all done but if they don’t - as mentioned you may get slugged by customs on the way in - this would be an email with the import duty charges and how to pay them (by credit card is easiest). It doesn’t hold up things much and doesn’t require extra effort when ordering.

[gromit]

Paddocks have a separate part of their website with Australian prices including GST.
I haven't ordered for some time but there have been problems with freight companies this end sticking you for the GST again.

Colin

[DeeJay]

Paddocks have a separate part of their website with Australian prices including GST.
I haven't ordered for some time but there have been problems with freight companies this end sticking you for the GST again.

Colin

I seem to be constantly ordering off Paddocks, ( well every few months) - excellent service & sometimes a fast as local internet supply. No probs to date

[LRT]

I use Bearmach and they have an Australian price selection. Since the new GST laws I just order as normal. If an order is going to be over $1,000 I find it’s cheaper to split the order and pay for two lots of freight.

FedEx ships from Wales in about a week +/- a day which is better than buying locally using AusPost.

[gromit]

I use Bearmach and they have an Australian price selection. Since the new GST laws I just order as normal. If an order is going to be over $1,000 I find it’s cheaper to split the order and pay for two lots of freight.

FedEx ships from Wales in about a week +/- a day which is better than buying locally using AusPost.

OK I'm confused.
The $1000 threshold stopped some time back so I don't understand how it's cheaper to split the order.

Is it somehow cheaper if they take the GST rather than it being done this end ?

Colin

[LRT]

OK I'm confused.
The $1000 threshold stopped some time back so I don't understand how it's cheaper to split the order.

Is it somehow cheaper if they take the GST rather than it being done this end ?

Colin

Oh I thought it was still going!

In that case then definitely not...

[cjc_td5]

OK I'm confused.
The $1000 threshold stopped some time back so I don't understand how it's cheaper to split the order.

Is it somehow cheaper if they take the GST rather than it being done this end ?

ColinIf the order is over 1000AUD Oz Customs will flag it and want duty too. I recently had an order that converted to 1006AUD with GST already paid on the original order in the UK. Oz Customs charged the GST again plus a duty plus a brokers fee, an extra 250AUD all up. I ended up paying it and Craddocks refunded me the GST I had already paid in the UK. It took a month to resolve though... That little part I added to the order to save some postage end3d up costing me $150 extra...

[gromit]

If the order is over 1000AUD Oz Customs will flag it and want duty too. I recently had an order that converted to 1006AUD with GST already paid on the original order in the UK. Oz Customs charged the GST again plus a duty plus a brokers fee, an extra 250AUD all up. I ended up paying it and Craddocks refunded me the GST I had already paid in the UK. It took a month to resolve though... That little part I added to the order to save some postage end3d up costing me $150 extra...

Out of interest did the $1006 include the freight charge ?
Looks like keep it below $1000 to save the brokers fee !!!

Just had a look at the Bearmach site and some parts are a lot more expensive than Paddocks.
I know some components are dubious but a big difference in price.


Colin

[cjc_td5]

Out of interest did the $1006 include the freight charge ?
Looks like keep it below $1000 to save the brokers fee !!!

Just had a look at the Bearmach site and some parts are a lot more expensive than Paddocks.
I know some components are dubious but a big difference in price.


ColinYes the 1006AUD was everything including the parts, freight & GST.
I think Customs also hit me up for 100% GST again as there was a currency shift between when I paid the GST at time of purchase vs when they calculated it at time of entry, in their favour obviously.

[S3ute]

I got caught out a couple of years ago with a shipment of parts sent by myself from Johannesburg via Qantas. Even though the order was under $1000 and was not liable for duty Qantas wouldn’t release it without formal Customs clearance. Customs won’t deal with private individuals but only goes through brokers - that’s the fee that was probably referred to several posts back ~$250-350.

Further problem is that once the parcel was with Qantas at the receiving depot and you had received their notification you only had something like 48 hours to collect it before an exhorbitant daily storage fee was applied.

Better to have it all tied up at the vendor’s end with a dedicated freight handler from go to wo.

Cheers,

Neil

[Fatso]

Well now i am more confused than before i posted [bigsad] , think i will just forget about getting stuff from oversease , thanks all .

[S3ute]

OK I'm confused.
The $1000 threshold stopped some time back so I don't understand how it's cheaper to split the order.

Is it somehow cheaper if they take the GST rather than it being done this end ?

Colin

Hello again.

There is a bit in the various threads to get confused about.

The main thing needing clarification is the difference between the GST liability - now applying to everything but previously only for imports worth more than $1000 freight included - and customs duties which generally cut in over $1000.

The first is pretty well handled now by most of the main parts vendors in the UK and USA. You order the part as before and the vendor should apply the relevant GST to the payable invoice.

The customs duty that kicks in over $1000 is more complicated because it depends on what the imported parts are. Again the larger vendors probably know that, but it is easier to keep the purchase below $1000. Where I got caught (earlier post) was that the Customs site suggests that it ‘might’ be useful to seek the services of an official agent (min fee ~$250) to sort out the paperwork. However, at Brisbane Airport they mandate that you use an agent even though your purchase might be below the dutiable $1000 limit.

Anyway, for most smaller parts purchases the system works just fine - forgetting for the moment the silliness of the GST imposte which seems to have achieved little to help the retail sector and probably costs more to enforce than collects. Plus ****ed off a few international vendors who simply won’t ship to Australia these days.

Cheers,

Neil

[Andrew D]

Well now i am more confused than before i posted [bigsad] , think i will just forget about getting stuff from oversease , thanks all .

It's very simple and I will keep it simple.

If you buy something from OS you pay GST regardless of value. (there are requirements for the OS company to justify charging GST though .e.g annual sales to OZ greater than a certain amount, might be $75k)

If you buy something (one part or many parts) from OS and the value is $1000 AUD or greater you are required to pay GST plus Import Duties.

Example. I buy a Windescreen for $700 and a spare tyre for $500. Collectively it is $1200. To get it into OZ you need to pay GST plus import duties. If I buy the Windscreen only I pay just the GST. Two weeks later or even two hours later I buy the spare tyre I pay $500 plus GST. Two items in two transactions therefore not liable for import duties as all transactions are under $1k.

I have bought stuff from OS and no GST was charged at either end. May have got lucky.

[gromit]

Well now i am more confused than before i posted [bigsad] , think i will just forget about getting stuff from oversease , thanks all .

No problem because the majority of the parts will be from the same manufacturer in India/China. You just pay extra for someone else to buy and stock it locally.

Buying from the UK isn't an issue, just understanding the thresholds etc. Keep total under $1000 and you'll save between 25 & 30% compared to buying locally (that includes freight).

Colin

[DiscoMick]

I just order normally and the GST is included in what I pay and it arrives 1-2 weeks later, no worries. Don't over-complicate it. It's simple.

[Fatso]

Right , got it good people , Keep under $1000 as ordering before and avoid import duties , GST will sort itself out one way another [bigrolf] .

My problem was i looked at all the gobledegook on the ATO & Gove Sites re duties and tax,s , worse than Centrelink .

[Charliektm400exc]

It's very simple and I will keep it simple.

If you buy something from OS you pay GST regardless of value. (there are requirements for the OS company to justify charging GST though .e.g annual sales to OZ greater than a certain amount, might be $75k)

If you buy something (one part or many parts) from OS and the value is $1000 AUD or greater you are required to pay GST plus Import Duties.

Example. I buy a Windescreen for $700 and a spare tyre for $500. Collectively it is $1200. To get it into OZ you need to pay GST plus import duties. If I buy the Windscreen only I pay just the GST. Two weeks later or even two hours later I buy the spare tyre I pay $500 plus GST. Two items in two transactions therefore not liable for import duties as all transactions are under $1k.

I have bought stuff from OS and no GST was charged at either end. May have got lucky.

Hi, I have to correct a little bit of this. I used to be in the business on the collecting side so know the law inside out. First off most of what you and others say is correct.

But. The law says the $1000 limit is per consignment, and a consignment is defined as things that were ordered from the supplier at about the same time, and shipped about the same time, so your two hour example isn’t quite correct. In practice maybe nobody notices, but it might be more sensible to space it out a week or so to avoid the problem.

The second point to bring up is that it’s really the”brokers” and other clearance fees that makes the real difference once it gets over $1000. That could be a few hundred dollars easily. Duty is unlikely to be more then 12% which from memory was about as high as it got, and as we know GST is 10%, but calculated to include freight.

Also, I should point out that I know what I’m doing in great detail in how to clear goods through customs, and I still pay a broker to do it whenever I bring something expensive in.

Hope that helps people

[loanrangie]

If a seller isn't registered for gst with an abn they can't charge or collect gst, if a large amount is payable customs will chase payment. Shipments on the same airway master bill from the same supplier will be grouped.

[Konradical]

I have been reading this thread with interest as I purchase 95% of my parts from OS, Rimmer Bros in particular.

By accident I scrolled over a little pop up notice as attached. It gives a good understanding of their position when it comes to parts being sent overseas.

I will give credit to Rimmer Bros, the GST change was ready to go on the 1 July and there was never a mess around or delay in getting parts.

Hope this bit of info can clear a bit of the rumour.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/7b221eec3fd8a8b23d34f1e5039dc9b2.jpg

[350RRC]

I have been reading this thread with interest as I purchase 95% of my parts from OS, Rimmer Bros in particular.

By accident I scrolled over a little pop up notice as attached. It gives a good understanding of their position when it comes to parts being sent overseas.

I will give credit to Rimmer Bros, the GST change was ready to go on the 1 July and there was never a mess around or delay in getting parts.

Hope this bit of info can clear a bit of the rumour.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190411/7b221eec3fd8a8b23d34f1e5039dc9b2.jpg

Thanks for posting that.

I don't get the bit where Rimmers say if you're registered for GST (aka have an ABN) it is not applied to the order.

I've got one and so do plenty of others on aulro.

DL

[Konradical]

Thanks for posting that.

I don't get the bit where Rimmers say if you're registered for GST (aka have an ABN) it is not applied to the order.

I've got one and so do plenty of others on aulro.

DLI don't know either. It may be worth an email and asking for more details. I also have a ABN and are registered for GST.

It may be you have to have a seperate trade account with them.. not sure.

Might be worth the email for sure.

[350RRC]

I don't know either. It may be worth an email and asking for more details. I also have a ABN and are registered for GST.

It may be you have to have a seperate trade account with them.. not sure.

Might be worth the email for sure.

I reckon this is one that's gone through to the keeper.

At the end of the day if you claim 100% of your car and have an ABN you get it all back anyway if you pay it when ordering.

If you have an ABN and no car you could buy parts with no GST applied.

(After all it is the tax we were never going to have. [bigwhistle])

DL

[Konradical]

I reckon this is one that's gone through to the keeper.

At the end of the day if you claim 100% of your car and have an ABN you get it all back anyway if you pay it when ordering.

If you have an ABN and no car you could buy parts with no GST applied.

DLIt may just be their understanding of it also. I could imagine it was a handful to take in. But saying that, they have had the VAT for some time now and my understanding is that the GST system is similar.

But you are 100% right. If you do use your car for business, it's all claimable.

[350RRC]

It may just be their understanding of it also. I could imagine it was a handful to take in. But saying that, they have had the VAT for some time now and my understanding is that the GST system is similar.

But you are 100% right. If you do use your car for business, it's all claimable.

I think they may be assuming GST is like VAT, that is if VAT is not applied if you are registered for VAT in the motherland and it doesn't have to be paid on business purchases (if that's how it works over there in the Antipodes).

VERY happy to be corrected on this by one of the English members.

DL

[V8Ian]

K.I.S.S., Roverlord is competitive, offers service second to none and has all my orders delivered in under twenty-four hours, from regional Vic to regional Qld.

[MarkO]

Hey guys, sorry to resurrect an old thread but ive been trawling the gov websites and forums and can't find a clear definition.

Looking to place a larger order from Paddocks in the UK and want to avoid paying import duty, due on orders with an assessed value over A$1000. Very simply, what is the definition of assessed value?

Do i need to keep my order of parts + shipping + GST to less than A$1000?
Or are GST and/or shipping not included in the "assessed value"

Someone put me out of my misery please! Cheers

[LRT]

I ordered from Bearmach last month and the total price including shipping went to $1,200 and I didn’t get pinged for customs nor was it opened up. I had an order last year over $1,000 and got them to split it into two shipments and that went through okay. Seems a bit random to me.


Hey guys, sorry to resurrect an old thread but ive been trawling the gov websites and forums and can't find a clear definition.

Looking to place a larger order from Paddocks in the UK and want to avoid paying import duty, due on orders with an assessed value over A$1000. Very simply, what is the definition of assessed value?

Do i need to keep my order of parts + shipping + GST to less than A$1000?
Or are GST and/or shipping not included in the "assessed value"

Someone put me out of my misery please! Cheers

[p38arover]

I think Customs also hit me up for 100% GST

100% or 10% which is the usual GST level?

[cjc_td5]

100% or 10% which is the usual GST level?What I meant was even though I had paid GST to the UK supplier at time of purchase, AU Customs charged me 100% of the GST again, not just GST on the change in value due to the currency shift between time of purchase and it arriving at the border...

[MarkO]

Thanks LRT.
I range Border Force today and the rep said parts + post + GST need to be under A$1000. He didn't seem confident though... I guess I'll just play it safe. Frustrating when undertaking a rebuild and you want to maximise the economy of your orders

[Charliektm400exc]

Thanks LRT.
I range Border Force today and the rep said parts + post + GST need to be under A$1000. He didn't seem confident though... I guess I'll just play it safe. Frustrating when undertaking a rebuild and you want to maximise the economy of your orders

I used to work there doing this. He’s right and I am confident.

Sometimes you get lucky and they miss things, but it’s luck.

[MarkO]

I used to work there doing this. He’s right and I am confident.

Sometimes you get lucky and they miss things, but it’s luck.

Thanks Charlie, great to hear something definitive.