Recommended lower control arm bushes?

[Skiboy]

2012 RRS - needs lower front control arm bushes

I am planning to do myself so looking for recommendation as to best bush design that now available and people have experience with.

Any tips - I have manual and have read posts and seen videos re process - marking before removal and torquing after at ride height noted.

Do I need any special tools to press back in? - seems the bushes I can see on line have a funny flange so might need to make a socket that has a cut out I guess.

Thanks in advance
Skiboy

[loanrangie]

Meyle HD and you will need a variety of tools , easiest if you remove the arms.
I replaced mine in situ using a bush pressing set.

[Skiboy]

Meyle HD and you will need a variety of tools , easiest if you remove the arms.
I replaced mine in situ using a bush pressing set.

thanks re bush recommendation

i was planning to remove the arms and use my 20 t press

Have ball joint splitter and torque wrench etc

just was not sure if need a special cup to press in new bush or if I could make something from a tube or large socket?

skiboy

[loanrangie]

You'll need a large bearing puller plate to get between the lip of the bush and the arm, front bushes are a tight fit and little space to get a grip of it.

[Skiboy]

You'll need a large bearing puller plate to get between the lip of the bush and the arm, front bushes are a tight fit and little space to get a grip of it.

Ok I have a bearing puller set of tools.

Hope I have right size

[loanrangie]

You will need something wider and same height as the bush to sit on the bearing plate to pull against.
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[Disco-tastic]

I used this tool (https://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/6180) and it had a specially shaped piece for pressing in the bush.

[Skiboy]

You will need something wider and same height as the bush to sit on the bearing plate to pull against.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190417/2c0119e0a12b67497578ae5af5a2916f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190417/f118693affe3df5e756c5f0747f9a775.jpgHow deep is the bush? I will measure the arm and see if i have suitable ring in my bearing puller set

[Skiboy]

I used this tool (https://www.lasertools.co.uk/product/6180) and it had a specially shaped piece for pressing in the bush.I am tempted to fab up an insert tool using say 10mm think alloy. Hmm actual tools seem a little dear for what they are!

[Disco-tastic]

I am tempted to fab up an insert tool using say 10mm think alloy. Hmm actual tools seem a little dear for what they are!Yeah they can be exxy! I more posted it so that you could see what it looked like, but was in a bit of a rush so disnt really explain myself.

The bush removal kit that loanrangie used was about $140 on eBay I think, if thats something that helps you out.

Edit: I think it was like this one (https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0'mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fulk%2Fitm%2 F142611093873)

[Skiboy]

Yeah they can be exxy! I more posted it so that you could see what it looked like, but was in a bit of a rush so disnt really explain myself.

The bush removal kit that loanrangie used was about $140 on eBay I think, if thats something that helps you out.Ok appreciate pic

140 more like it - will see if i can find that one. With that puller wont need to remove the arm to use press stand so will save time and effort i guess.

[Disco-tastic]

Ok appreciate pic

140 more like it - will see if i can find that one. With that puller wont need to remove the arm to use press stand so will save time and effort i guess.I just added a link to my previous post [emoji106]

[Skiboy]

From what I can see using online pictures (Meyle site) the Meyle bush has a continuous rubber ring on face (marked A) and and solid metal ring/flange to the outside (marked B)


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(Picture from Meyle site)

So the pulling gear does not need the special cutout that the original rover bushes needed. But I would need a ring exactly the same size as the outer flange marked B above.

So std puller will do the job - if I am lucky my bearing and push pulling set has the right size (diameter and depth) - will have to check when get home.
Otherwise will look into the link Disco-tastic has provided for a new set.

Skiboy

[loanrangie]

From what I can see using online pictures (Meyle site) the Meyle bush has a continuous rubber ring on face (marked A) and and solid metal ring/flange to the outside (marked B)


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(Picture from Meyle site)

So the pulling gear does not need the special cutout that the original rover bushes needed. But I would need a ring exactly the same size as the outer flange marked B above.

So std puller will do the job - if I am lucky my bearing and push pulling set has the right size (diameter and depth) - will have to check when get home.
Otherwise will look into the link Disco-tastic has provided for a new set.

Skiboy

Correct, in the bush tool set i got the largest cup sits over the rubber and onto the metal sleeve of the bush. Still a bit tricky to get it to sit right while pressing them in, the front bush needs to be hacked as little to get the plate between the sleeve and the arm tube.
Luckily i used the old mans ramp/pit and some of his 30t press tools to get the job done.
$155 for the kit which should pretty much cover all the bushes on the vehicle.

[Skiboy]

the front bush needs to be hacked as little to get the plate between the sleeve and the arm tube.
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Not 100% sure what comment this means as I have never seen the bushes.

So I am 100% not sure how the 'front' front differs from the 'front' rear bush - although I see the Meyle bush (LR part number LR055291) is only for the rear of the front lower arm. So the rear is the only one that leaks and this Meyle rubber one is a better design?

I presume the front bush (Land Rover Front Lower Control Arm Bushing LR055288) is the same as this one I found on the net
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And this is a standard bush - i.e. rubber and the rubber extends onto the outer flange - and this is what you refer to cutting the rubber on the outer edge back?

So do you mean trimming kind of where the red line is in this pic (stolen from ebay retailer site)
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If using the Meyle type bush for the rear is there all the drama as per the service manual about the orientation of the bush or is it like a normal bush - get it all the way in and then good to go?

And does the Delphi type ones above need the special orientation?

Still wondering if better to just by Meyle arms and install whole new unit.
Skiboy

[loanrangie]

Front bush is pressed hard against the tube so no room to get behind it without some work to remove, pressing in is fine.
Rear bush sits proud about 5mm so a bearing plate can get behind it to sit on the tube.

[Skiboy]

Front bush is pressed hard against the tube so no room to get behind it without some work to remove, pressing in is fine.
Rear bush sits proud about 5mm so a bearing plate can get behind it to sit on the tube.

Ok just went out and got under the truck so see what you mean re rear is proud but front it not.

I was assuming I would just press out from the rear somehow

Hmmm