Bush bashing fun

[Wolfriver]

Took my old beast out for a bush bash a couple days ago... in the hills around Mt Glorious/D'aguilar. We followed some old fire trails that hadn't been driven on for years, basically punching our way through small saplings in places and negotiating numerous gully crossings. Only came unstuck once when I didn't quite get the exact angle and slid sideways into the gully. Came very close to rolling...
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After some digging behind the drivers driver's side rear tyre and a couple of us putting weight on the uphill side we got out with a little rocking backwards and forwards from 1st to reverse.

After this we were running dangerously low on fuel (beer, not diesel) so headed home.
End result was one broken indicator (driver's side front).

[ramblingboy42]

fun? ......hmmmm

[trout1105]

After this we were running dangerously low on fuel (beer, not diesel) so headed home.

Has it occurred to you that this is the reason why you ended up in the ditch[bigwhistle]

[goingbush]

I'm speechless

[bob10]

Been up that way in my D2. It's rough. Good on you for giving it a go. Hope you had a vehicle with you.

[Homestar]

So admitting to drink driving on a public forum? Interesting...

[DeanoH]

Hmmm ........................ me thinks there are other forums (than AULRO) better suited to the OP's interests. [bigwhistle]

Deano :)

[weeds]

Well...there is a third person taking the pics, no mention how many were drinking.

Either way lools like a good save

[bob10]

So admitting to drink driving on a public forum? Interesting...
He didn't say he was drinking. Cut him some slack. Just because many here would rather be in their favourite chair, with a blanket, than actually out testing their abilities, like most young fellas do, don't be grumpy old men. OR, he could have been just putting it out there to see your reaction.

[bob10]

Hmmm ........................ me thinks there are other forums (than AULRO) better suited to the OP's interests. [bigwhistle]

Deano :)

So AULRO is not into 4 wheel driving? Or have I missed your point.? Just curious.

[Homestar]

He didn't say he was drinking. Cut him some slack. Just because many here would rather be in their favourite chair, with a blanket, than actually out testing their abilities, like most young fellas do, don't be grumpy old men. OR, he could have been just putting it out there to see your reaction.

Just saying it comes across like that’s what he’s saying when he writes ‘we were running dangerously low on fuel (beer, not diesel)’ of course I could be wrong, but personally I would have phrased things differently if that was the case.

Just my 2 cents, as valid opinion as anyone else’s.

[DeanoH]

.................. Or have I missed your point.?

Got it in one :)

Deano :)

[Homestar]

So AULRO is not into 4 wheel driving? Or have I missed your point.? Just curious.

Generally people here subscribe to the ‘tread softly’ approach to four wheel driving and ‘leave a campsite better than you found it’ type of thing which I personally subscribe to, so statements like ‘We followed some old fire trails that hadn't been driven on for years, basically punching our way through small saplings‘ may not fall into that category depending on where you stand, and doesn’t from mine. I’d leave tracks that are being overgrown like that alone to regenerate as there are too many being trashed by good ol boys with their 35’s these days. This sort of behaviour IMO will see many tracks closed permanently going forward so those that still want to enjoy what’s left have to speak up and have our say.

And again, just my 2 cents but I do feel strongly about this subject as there are many places being closed now due to poor behaviour in the bush.

[p38arover]

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[Wolfriver]

Sheesh... what a reaction [bigwhistle]

dunno why I feel it necessary to defend myself but anyway...

1, as the driver I wasn't drinking so no, my misjudgment of the approach angle for one of the many crossings we went through was not alcohol fuelled. Three inches to the left and we wouldn't have come unstuck and indeed didn't on the second attempt.

2, these are fire trails and are supposed to be kept clear for that purpose. If the Fireys had been doing their job the trail would have been easier to get through. The locals who live bordering this area wouldn't be happy at how thick parts of the trails were (indeed the bloke in the t-shirt lives there and wasn't impressed).

You blokes need to chill out a bit and not take things so seriously. Reading the comments I could easily be deceived into thinking I was on a Yank forum. What happened to the Aussie sense of humour?

[Homestar]

But you defend yourself regardless...

Fire trails designed to be kept clear - are kept clear by those that may need to use them. I have friends who’s job this is. Not sure up in your part of the world, but down here an overgrown trail is overgrown for a reason - usually regeneration of that area. Bush bashing through trails like this is vandalism here, but again, may be different up there - wouldn’t pay to consider the same tracks down here open slather. No gate stopping you maybe? Why should that make it ok and do we have to pay to put gates up everywhere to stop this sort of behaviour?

And appologies if I insinuated you’d been drinking - writing ‘we’ had run out of beer sure makes for a misleading statement IMO and something you may want to consider next time before posting.

IMO reckless behaviour like this has nothing to do with ‘The Aussie sense of humour’ more the minority wrecking things for those that do the right thing. I need to chill? How about those ****ing things up for everyone else - maybe they should chill and we’d all be better off.

I’ll post no more here, I have made my point, I personally think you did the wrong thing, and are spoiling the bush for the rest of us. Don’t come back here ****ing and moaning your favourite tracks have been closed because you were probably part of the problem that caused it IMO.

Yes, I’m ticked off, because I am seeing first hand my favourite campsites and tracks getting closed because they are being wrecked by the minority. Your reaction to these posts suggests IMO you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Rant over.

[Eevo]

actually local council are meant to keep the trails clear.

[Homestar]

actually local council are meant to keep the trails clear.

Not in State forests or National Parks - at least not in Victoria, DELWP do.

[goingbush]

So AULRO is not into 4 wheel driving? Or have I missed your point.? Just curious.

4 wheel driving is great, BUSH BASHING , as alluded to in the thread title is not.

[Slunnie]

Good on you for getting out there, looks like you had some fun despite the slip - happens to a lot but sometimes thats the fun when you're going out for a spin. Good on you for keeping the tracks accessible also, the firies will no doubt appreciate that they can get down it if they have to.

Dont sweat about the stooges, everybody likes 4WDing for different reasons. Playing is a good reason.

[Wolfriver]

Don't have any favourite tracks mate.
Personally I usually keep any off-roading I may do to private property as a rule. This trip was because the property owner wanted to check out the trails behind his place and his own 4wd wasn't cut out for it.

As to treading lightly... you would have a hard time finding anybody more respectful of the bush than I.
I'm the sort of bloke who chucks a fit at someone not picking up a cigarette butt.

Regarding the sense of humour I was referring to the "running out of fuel" comment containing the parenthesis... it was meant as a joke mate. I thought that was obvious... ala 'They're a Wierd Mob'. (An Aussie classic IMO)

[goingbush]

Don't have any favourite tracks mate.
Personally I usually keep any off-roading I may do to private property as a rule. This trip was because the property owner wanted to check out the trails behind his place and his own 4wd wasn't cut out for it.

As to treading lightly... you would have a hard time finding anybody more respectful of the bush than I.
I'm the sort of bloke who chucks a fit at someone not picking up a cigarette butt.

Regarding the sense of humour I was referring to the "running out of fuel" comment containing the parenthesis... it was meant as a joke mate. I thought that was obvious... ala 'They're a Wierd Mob'. (An Aussie classic IMO)

Too bad your 4WD wasn't cut out for it either mate , (Should have taken a proper 4x4 . )

[goingbush]

So how are you supposed to know if i'm joking or not .
I'm still wondering how you can imply the part in brackets is meant as a joke ?

[Wolfriver]

Good on you for getting out there, looks like you had some fun despite the slip - happens to a lot but sometimes thats the fun when you're going out for a spin. Good on you for keeping the tracks accessible also, the firies will no doubt appreciate that they can get down it if they have to.

Dont sweat about the stooges, everybody likes 4WDing for different reasons. Playing is a good reason.

Cheers mate.
i don't go bush as often as I'd like (grew up in it) and when I do it's usually hiking, not driving. My old Landy has never needed to lock the diffs since I bought her (despite her many times off the black stuff) so it was a good test of both her and my capabilities. We negotiated some pretty severe obstacles and impressed the blokes who came along for the ride. Despite initially scoffing at my 'pommie car' they are all converts now [biggrin]

The slip was a fun challenge which took some thinking through to get out of. No winch, nor second vehicle and a long walk back if we couldn't get her out. The trip was not planned but luckily I had a machete to use as a digging tool (not that it needed much).

Much fun was had by all.

[Wolfriver]

So how are you supposed to know if i'm joking or not .

Tone of voice. [bigwhistle]

[SPROVER]

Bloody hell. What is wrong with some people on here? He said he wasn't drinking and it looks like he was having fun on a track he's aloud to be on. What's the big deal? This forum is beginning to feel like it's run by a bunch of old whinging men! [emoji16][emoji16]

[Eevo]

Not in State forests or National Parks - at least not in Victoria, DELWP do.

fair point.

[Eevo]

Bloody hell. What is wrong with some people on here? He said he wasn't drinking and it looks like he was having fun on a track he's aloud to be on. What's the big deal? This forum is beginning to feel like it's run by a bunch of old whinging men! [emoji16][emoji16]


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[djam1]

Exploroz mk2

[bob10]

Sheesh... what a reaction [bigwhistle]

dunno why I feel it necessary to defend myself but anyway...

1, as the driver I wasn't drinking so no, my misjudgment of the approach angle for one of the many crossings we went through was not alcohol fuelled. Three inches to the left and we wouldn't have come unstuck and indeed didn't on the second attempt.

2, these are fire trails and are supposed to be kept clear for that purpose. If the Fireys had been doing their job the trail would have been easier to get through. The locals who live bordering this area wouldn't be happy at how thick parts of the trails were (indeed the bloke in the t-shirt lives there and wasn't impressed).

You blokes need to chill out a bit and not take things so seriously. Reading the comments I could easily be deceived into thinking I was on a Yank forum. What happened to the Aussie sense of humour?



I agree with you on the fire trails. No sense having one if the fire truck can't get through. Don't be too harsh on the members, they don't have young people on here very often. The only criticism I might make is I would recommend at least two vehicles , just in case. A long walk to the doctor.

[Saitch]

I've got a fair idea where this location is and if I'm correct, the tracks are not closed or environmentally significant.. For non-Qlders info, the Qld government is not exactly generous with NP and Forestry funding and as such, a lot of what would be deemed " Maintenance " simply never happens. Funny, isn't it that, in Qld, it's illegal to have a chainsaw in your possession in a NP but, recommended in NSW.
So, different rules for different places. Also, there is no camping in the area so worrying about closures is unnecessary.
These tracks are only officially mentioned when something occurs and they perhaps could have served a purpose.
The subject of "Maintenance ": is raised briefly and then placed into the local politician's "I'll look into" pigeon hole.

It's a good place to have a poke around.

[blackrangie]

This is a joke, if there is bush on a trail, its fair game to be bashed, it will be graded sooner or later, sorry you hit the ditch mate, thanks for clearing a track through the old trail. Few new pinstripes?

Looks like lantana anyway(which is a noxious weed) rip that outa the bush anywhere.

This is an argument to keep trails open to 4x4ers, we make sure there is a way through.

*you may need a twin locked firetruck though [emoji6][emoji1787]

Trails are closed because of greenies going too far and lack of funds to manage trails in NSW. Yes there is the odd occasion its because of hoons but its rarely why they are locked for good.

Vic is the best imo for trails, working with 4x4ers, seasonal closers where needed, trail grading.

Cmon parks NSW! I know forest nsw are coming around and want to work with 4wders.

[Wolfriver]

I agree with you on the fire trails. No sense having one if the fire truck can't get through. Don't be too harsh on the members, they don't have young people on here very often. The only criticism I might make is I would recommend at least two vehicles , just in case. A long walk to the doctor.

Exactly.
Anyone who knows me knows I see the funny side of everything (life is far too short to take it seriously... what I always thought of as a traditionally Aussie trait).

Ironically I ain't that young (crept at heart) at 49 so maybe it is because of my age I still possess said She'll-Be-Right humour... something that seems to be disappearing in this country today. God knows the younguns today seem to have lost it.

Despite being a member here for years I rarely post. Guess when I do I better make sure to use the correct pronouns too if people are 'offended' by the term Bush Bashing [bighmmm]

[bob10]

Exactly.
Anyone who knows me knows I see the funny side of everything (life is far too short to take it seriously... what I always thought of as a traditionally Aussie trait).

Ironically I ain't that young (crept at heart) at 49 so maybe it is because of my age I still possess said She'll-Be-Right humour... something that seems to be disappearing in this country today. God knows the younguns today seem to have lost it.

Despite being a member here for years I rarely post. Guess when I do I better make sure to use the correct pronouns too if people are 'offended' by the term Bush Bashing [bighmmm]

You're only a pup. [smilebigeye] You are a Queenslander, mate. The great oppressed from far away have had their sense of humour knocked about, some even lock themselves in their homes, to escape nasty Africans. Cut them some slack, they are not bad people, when you get to know them. They just can't understand how we still have access to good 4wdriving, while their tracks are locked. That only happens when you don't look after your country. Keep looking after the country, do the right thing, and we might even invite them up here to see what it is all about.[bigsmile1]

[trout1105]

The OP's first post came across as him "Skiteing" about bashing through the bush and running out of beer, Seriously what sort of reaction did he expect to get from Serious 4WD enthusiasts?
There is a huge difference between Bushbashing and cutting/clearing a track for use as a fire trail and booze and 4WDing is Never a great idea, Even IF the driver stays sober drunken passengers are No great asset in tough terrain.

Many of us have seen first hand the carnage done to the bush, The rubbish littered and the damage done to the tracks by drunken Yobbo's in their 4WD's and seeing a post that is Bragging about this on the forum (Even IF it was in "Jest') is in poor taste.
By all means get out there and hone your skills or simply have fun in your 4WD because that is precisely why many of us buy them But leave the Booze (Even the passengers) until you get back to camp or back home[thumbsupbig]

[Eevo]

Seriously what sort of reaction did he expect to get from Serious 4WD enthusiasts?



its not april 1st is it?

[trout1105]

its not april 1st is it?

Not until next year Mate [biggrin]

[manic]

'Bush bashing', in the UK this could be interpreted as something quite different. Whilst drunk - not usually a problem. But punching through saplings - that's ****ed up!!

We are a hyper judgemental mob out here on the interweb. Too quick, too eager.

Happy Chocolate Egg Weekend you grumpy gits!

I would post my 'Bush bashing' pics/stories from over the weekend - if I had any :(

Did any one else get dirty?

[RANDLOVER]

I think people are taking the OP far too seriously, as he says "We followed some old fire trails". I don't have a problem with this, as he didn't go thru a gate or past a sign saying "Lawn establishment area" etc. Also his remark about beer can easily be seen as a joke, which is often the case when people use innuendos or euphemisms.

I'm glad people are out there clearing existing trails, as I have been down a few rough ones, they started out alright and next thing I know, I'm driving over fallen trees, tree stumps, getting my brother to hold branches and vines away from the sides and roof of the car! Some of them had signs saying "Unmaintained Road" and I think they meant since horse and cart days!

The councils don't want to maintain dirt roads, never mind tracks, and have allowed a lot of spur roads and even thru roads to be closed off by the landowners, and just move the mailboxes further back up the road.

Seeing as he has cleared up all the misconceptions, I say "Onya, Wolfie".

[Homestar]

You're only a pup. [smilebigeye] You are a Queenslander, mate. The great oppressed from far away have had their sense of humour knocked about, some even lock themselves in their homes, to escape nasty Africans. Cut them some slack, they are not bad people, when you get to know them. They just can't understand how we still have access to good 4wdriving, while their tracks are locked. That only happens when you don't look after your country. Keep looking after the country, do the right thing, and we might even invite them up here to see what it is all about.[bigsmile1]

Here we go with the same old Vic bashing BS we’ve come to expect from you Bob. I have been to Queensland many times and I like the place, so you don’t need to invite me up. How about you give it a break, you sound like a stuck record. And our tracks aren’t all locked and we have some of the best 4WDing in the Country, I just don’t want ****wits ruining any more of it for the considerate ones - maybe if you all congregate up there, we can have maintain what we have down here. 😉.

[Arapiles]

Exactly.
Anyone who knows me knows I see the funny side of everything (life is far too short to take it seriously... what I always thought of as a traditionally Aussie trait).

Ironically I ain't that young (crept at heart) at 49 so maybe it is because of my age I still possess said She'll-Be-Right humour... something that seems to be disappearing in this country today. God knows the younguns today seem to have lost it.

Despite being a member here for years I rarely post. Guess when I do I better make sure to use the correct pronouns too if people are 'offended' by the term Bush Bashing [bighmmm]

So you post about "bush bashing" and that your fuel is beer and then anyone who thinks you're boasting about behaving like an idiot lacks a sense of humour? I don't think so, what you posted simply wasn't funny.

[SPROVER]

I hope no one from here is going to the "Big red bash " then! How inconsiderate of them. [emoji23][emoji23]

[SPROVER]

Or the "Variety Bash ". Those inconsiderate people raising money for others. Come on people lighten up a bit.

[Eevo]

george W bush. what a dickhead.

[manic]

YouTube (https://youtu.be/RTbnWB_lvp4)

[Saitch]

Did any one else get dirty?

Ooowahhhh, I did! :nazibanned:

[Wolfriver]

"Vic bashing"?????

what on earth did the bloke say that was offensive to Victorians?

good grief you blokes on this forum... I simply don't have words (unusual for me)

wont bother posting here again, so sad.

[Vern]

Bloody hell. What is wrong with some people on here? He said he wasn't drinking and it looks like he was having fun on a track he's aloud to be on. What's the big deal? This forum is beginning to feel like it's run by a bunch of old whinging men! [emoji16][emoji16]And that's why this place has gone to ****, the grumpy old man brigade, it has become like exploroz as someone stated.
Good on the OP for going out and having fun, it's seldomly seen or done these days on here.

[SPROVER]

"Vic bashing"?????

what on earth did the bloke say that was offensive to Victorians?

good grief you blokes on this forum... I simply don't have words (unusual for me)

wont bother posting here again, so sad.Look mate it's a good forum. Plenty of great info and great people always willing to help. But regardless of what forum you're on, there's always someone who has an opinion to force down you're throat. This forum is no different. Don't take them seriously and shrug it off. Honestly who cares what some bloke types behind a keyboard. [emoji106]
I wish I was able to get out like you did. But couldn't because of a dud alternator.

[Vern]

"Vic bashing"?????

what on earth did the bloke say that was offensive to Victorians?

good grief you blokes on this forum... I simply don't have words (unusual for me)

wont bother posting here again, so sad.If you can find a decent place to post these days where you don't have to put up with this crap, let me know[emoji6]. Outerlimits needs to be resurrected [emoji106]

[wardy1]

Sorry... with homestar on this one.
Yes it’s great to go have fun, we do it as do many others here. Maybe choose your words a little more carefully.
The reason is NOTHING to do with what you you were trying to say... it’s all to do with this being a PUBLIC FORUM which is trolled by the ‘Do Gooders’ out there who have, and will continue to close tracks and campsites using comments from forums such as this one.
By all means ENJOY your landie, that’s what it’s all about.... protect your future fun by choosing your words

[Homestar]

"Vic bashing"?????

what on earth did the bloke say that was offensive to Victorians?

good grief you blokes on this forum... I simply don't have words (unusual for me)

wont bother posting here again, so sad.

Oh, and mock outrage too.👍. Just to fill you in, Bob is known for what I was on about and if you’d read some of his other posts and threads it would make more sense to you. Like all forums, you need to be prepared to be challenged on what you post, it’s no big deal, life’s like that. Despite what I have said here I hold no grudge to you or others, I get over things pretty quick. Me having a different opinion to you or others doesn’t make me, you or anyone else here right or wrong, just differing points of view on a certain subjects. ‘So sad’ means you have a different opinion and are trying to put those down who feel differently - I get that and have no issues with your ‘sadness’. 😉

Some here don’t agree with what I’ve posted here and have said so just like yourself and that’s fine, water off a ducks back. I’ll continue to challenge people where I have a strong opinion on things as do many others here, and that’s great IMO. I’m more than happy for you and anyone else to have their say, that’s the way these things go.

Don’t go just because one thread or a few posts don’t go your way. I personally never want anyone to get that ticked off. I’ve had plenty of robust discussions with people here and will continue to do so. Me and Bob have plenty of head to heads - I doubt that’s about to end, but we still have fun along the way.

[Homestar]

Look mate it's a good forum. Plenty of great info and great people always willing to help. But regardless of what forum you're on, there's always someone who has an opinion to force down you're throat. This forum is no different. Don't take them seriously and shrug it off. Honestly who cares what some bloke types behind a keyboard. [emoji106]
I wish I was able to get out like you did. But couldn't because of a dud alternator.

While I know you don’t agree with me on the subject matter on this thread and are having a dig at me as that keyboard warrior, I actually agree 100% with your post and sentiment. 👍

[Geedublya]

There are quite a few on here that are what I would call rather conservative about all manner of things. I have been told that my caravan was inherently unsafe by a person who has never towed the same type. I have seen equipment criticised by people who never read the article posted and had no understanding of what it does. It’s pretty normal on a forum that you have those that go off half cocked but on the other hand people are very helpful here and the advice is often good.
I just see it as typical internet and let it wash over me.
I try to double check anything I post to ensure accuracy and correct anything that wasn’t right.

[SPROVER]

While I know you don’t agree with me on the subject matter on this thread and are having a dig at me as that keyboard warrior, I actually agree 100% with your post and sentiment. [emoji106]Not having a dig at you at all. Just forums in general.

[bob10]

The OP's first post came across as him "Skiteing" about bashing through the bush and running out of beer, Seriously what sort of reaction did he expect to get from Serious 4WD enthusiasts?
There is a huge difference between Bushbashing and cutting/clearing a track for use as a fire trail and booze and 4WDing is Never a great idea, Even IF the driver stays sober drunken passengers are No great asset in tough terrain.

Many of us have seen first hand the carnage done to the bush, The rubbish littered and the damage done to the tracks by drunken Yobbo's in their 4WD's and seeing a post that is Bragging about this on the forum (Even IF it was in "Jest') is in poor taste.
By all means get out there and hone your skills or simply have fun in your 4WD because that is precisely why many of us buy them But leave the Booze (Even the passengers) until you get back to camp or back home[thumbsupbig]


I'm disappointed our experts didn't question the young fella [ 49 is young to me] before jumping in feet first, but that's the internet. I've driven those tracks, a little while ago, and when I drove them you would not see a drop of rubbish, people who drive them are mature 4x4 enthusiasts, if they saw some one hooning, they would pull them into line. It's a bit much for people who don't even live in the State to jump to conclusions , I'd be tempted to say pull your heads in, worry about your own patch. But I promised to be nice, so I won't.[smilebigeye]

[bob10]

"Vic bashing"?????

what on earth did the bloke say that was offensive to Victorians?

good grief you blokes on this forum... I simply don't have words (unusual for me)

wont bother posting here again, so sad.

Keep posting, it's not that bad. Keep your sense of humour, it will give you a point of difference, in a lot of circumstances.

[Eevo]

i hate to quote jesus but...


"Let anyone among you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."

[Slunnie]

I wouldn't worry about it Wolfriver, there was clearly nothing else to be outraged by today so you happened to cop it all. Normally the members are incredibly decent. There are quite a few on here that like to 4WD for the sake of 4WDing, its challenges and whatever. Others question if they absolutely need to go there if they need to engage 4WD. I think you may have upset the caravan brigade. :lol2: Just ignore them and carry on. Hopefully you can learn something from the forum and the forum can learn something from you.

[350RRC]

I read Wolf's post when it was the only one on the thread and was concerned.

Mostly with the terminology, to do with intent, etc.

Having been an exec for a sustainable high end fishing sector for a number of years and having sat on every federal and state committee related to it and other sectors, including cost recovery, has taught me a lot about maintaining access to natural resources, commercially or rec.

This includes state forests and /or NP's.

There is a massive voting block, living in the burbs, that have absolutely NFI about the natural world apart from what they see on social media.

They have NFI about what is reasonable and what is not. Unfortunately they must be pandered to, if you want to do what you sustainably do. It is not hard to 'pander' to this.

Keep it careful in a sustainable language way for a start and do the right thing, hang your hat on it, and all will continue.

DL

[Milton477]

I wouldn't worry about it Wolfriver, there was clearly nothing else to be outraged by today so you happened to cop it all. Normally the members are incredibly decent. There are quite a few on here that like to 4WD for the sake of 4WDing, its challenges and whatever. Others question if they absolutely need to go there if they need to engage 4WD. I think you may have upset the caravan brigade. :lol2: Just ignore them and carry on. Hopefully you can learn something from the forum and the forum can learn something from you.

I thought that it was sounding a bit like a caravan forum, especially the thread about the D4 not fit for towing.

[Slunnie]

I thought that it was sounding a bit like a caravan forum, especially the thread about the D4 not fit for towing.

I would have thought the D4 would be really good for towing, but you're probably right. Personally I don't believe in the 10% rule of thumb, its too much and makes the tow vehicle unstable with heavy trailers.

[Arapiles]

Or the "Variety Bash ". Those inconsiderate people raising money for others. Come on people lighten up a bit.

"bush bashing" has a pretty specific meaning - damaging the bush.

As distinct from bash's other meanings.

[Slunnie]

"bush bashing" has a pretty specific meaning - damaging the bush.

As distinct from bash's other meanings.

It has always meant off the track to me, whether 4WDing, bush walking or whatever. Its never meant damaging the bush to me.

Mind you, I can see that interpretation pretty easily.

What does "Bush bash / Bush Bashing" mean in Australia? The Outback Dictionary (https://outbackdictionary.com/bush-bash-bush-bashing/)

'Bush bash / Bush Bashing' meaning
3 definitions

Karl
long competitive running or motorcar race through the bush (https://outbackdictionary.com/bush/). Also can be the act of taking your vehicle into the bush (https://outbackdictionary.com/bush/) and driving through trees, shrubs, scrub etc.




Kibston
An Australian (https://outbackdictionary.com/australian/) term meaning to beat through thick bush (https://outbackdictionary.com/bush/), perhaps with a stick, usually off the marked track, whilst bush (https://outbackdictionary.com/bush/)-walking.


Example: There is a lake over there, but you'll have to bush-bash to get to it.





DsFreud
According to the nature documentary I was watching it means trekking or hiking where little or no path exists.


Example: I could tell by the lack of a visible trail that I was in for a bush Bash

[manic]

"bush bashing" has a pretty specific meaning - damaging the bush.

Not true.

One can bash the bush without damaging it.

[goingbush]

My interpretation of "Bush Bashing" is just that, driving through the scrub knocking over trees , knocking over anthills , driving along creek beds, circle work and other vehicle based environmental vandalism. Im no tree hugger , not by a long shot . But I find the term disagreeable & the usual culprits are from a more bogan demographic .

[Slunnie]

the usual culprits are from a more bogan demographic .

Bloody Toyota drivers!

[Eevo]

My interpretation of "Bush Bashing" is just that, driving through the scrub knocking over trees , knocking over anthills , driving along creek beds, circle work and other vehicle based environmental vandalism. Im no tree hugger , not by a long shot . But I find the term disagreeable & the usual culprits are from a more bogan demographic .

the irony of your username isnt lost here.

[speleomike]

Hi


My interpretation of "Bush Bashing" is just that, driving through the scrub knocking over trees , knocking over anthills , driving along creek beds, circle work and other vehicle based environmental vandalism. I'm no tree hugger, not by a long shot. But I find the term disagreeable & the usual culprits are from a more bogan demographic .

I think goingbush is right on there. "Bush bashing" is a word that conveys an image to people today that is negative. That's why sometimes one has to change the language that one might have used a few decades ago to one that will convey the right meaning and nuances in today's world. It's like the term "hacker" which has changed its meaning from 30 years ago. I would not use "bush bashing" or "bush basher" to describe what responsible drivers do when they explore the aussie bush. Though I can't think of a suitable replacement. Maybe this thread can suggest alternatives.

Mike

[Eevo]

Maybe this thread can suggest alternatives.


environment eroding
ecosystem eradicating
nature nullifying
scrub smashing
wilderness wrecking
landscape liquidating
track trashing
trail taming

[trout1105]

Bush Bashing has always meant that there isn't a useable track available so you have to cut your own through the bush to get to where you want to go and most people that have to do this at least have their 4WD fitted with frontal protection (Bullbar) to prevent damage to the front of the vehicle.
How can the term "Bush Bashing" be anything other than Bashing your way through the Bush/scrub??
The "Fireies" here use a grader to "Bush Bash" the fire trails so that the fire fighters can use the track without damaging the trucks, Just pushing the scrub over isn't much use as the track is only useable in the one direction.

[workingonit]

I thought 'bush bashing' had already been clearly defined many decades ago?!

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc)

[blackrangie]

I thought 'bush bashing' had already been clearly defined many decades ago?!

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78b67l_yxUc)[emoji1787][emoji1787]

[Fatso]

So the the new meaning of Bushbashing is knocking over tree,s , where and how was that decided ?? . IMHO it has always meant going off road , going for a drive in the bush !!! used to do it all the time rabbiting .

Does Variety Bash" mean we now knock over any charity event " .

[weeds]

Geosurvey Hill and geographical center in the Simpson Desert....

Gets plenty of visitors....and don’t believe there are formed tracks.

[RANDLOVER]

Hi

I would not use "bush bashing" or "bush basher" to describe what responsible drivers do when they explore the aussie bush. Though I can't think of a suitable replacement. Maybe this thread can suggest alternatives.

Mike

I think what Wolfie describes falls in to the category of "dis-used track maintenance" and I so nominate it for inclusion into the Aulro dictionary/glossary of terms.

[RANDLOVER]

'..............:(

Did any one else get dirty?

Mud from going up the range near Toowoomba.

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[Saulman1010]

Driving lesson (ahem!) with the boy.....


Private property, area filled with clay and spoil from new dam dig before final top soil layer and planting.
(NOTE: no plants, animals or vegans were harmed in the activity)[emoji57] https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190423/6229851df95c915603860bc797a98da7.jpg

[Slunnie]

(NOTE: no plants, animals or vegans were harmed in the activity)[emoji57]

Looks like the Vegan had a scare though! :twisted:

[Saulman1010]

Looks like the Vegan had a scare though! :twisted:Thats part of the deal in getting the hours up.....ya gotta feed me.[emoji106]

[Saitch]

Ooowahhhh, I did! :nazibanned:

.................and just now home. Stopped to get a carton to keep the Gurni going. [smilebigeye]

A dilemma has arisen for me. As a few of us are going, ahem, touring around the Kenilworth SF region this coming Friday, do I clean the vehicle or not?

[Slunnie]

.................and just now home. Stopped to get a carton to keep the Gurni going. [smilebigeye]

A dilemma has arisen for me. As a few of us are going, ahem, touring around the Kenilworth SF region this coming Friday, do I clean the vehicle or not?

Nah, the mud will stop the dirt from sticking.

[Wolfriver]

.................and just now home. Stopped to get a carton to keep the Gurni going. [smilebigeye]

How dare you make a joke suggesting beer as a fuel source... so irresponsible


A dilemma has arisen for me. As a few of us are going, ahem, [B]touring around the Kenilworth SF region this coming Friday, do I clean the vehicle or not?

That's better behaviour. Good to see such a careful, thoughtful choice of words being used... no snowflakes were melted as a result. Good job. [biggrin]

[bob10]

Driving lesson (ahem!) with the boy.....


Private property, area filled with clay and spoil from new dam dig before final top soil layer and planting.
(NOTE: no plants, animals or vegans were harmed in the activity)[emoji57]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190423/6229851df95c915603860bc797a98da7.jpg
Please tell me you cleaned it quickly, instead of driving it around for a week , parking beside spotless land cruisers in shopping centres?

[Saulman1010]

Please tell me you cleaned it quickly, instead of driving it around for a week , parking beside spotless land cruisers in shopping centres?I wash my vehicles twice a year whether they need it or not[emoji6]
In an environmentaly responsible and sensitive way of course.

[V8Ian]

.................and just now home. Stopped to get a carton to keep the Gurni going. [smilebigeye]

A dilemma has arisen for me. As a few of us are going, ahem, touring around the Kenilworth SF region this coming Friday, do I clean the vehicle or not?

I haven't washed mine since the recce. I did it twice in the preceding week, so I was in credit.


How dare you make a joke suggesting beer as a fuel source... so irresponsible [bighmmm]



That's better behaviour. Good to see such a careful, thoughtful choice of words being used... no snowflakes were melted as a result. Good job. [biggrin]

You've got to know Steve, irresponsible is how he rolls.[wink11]