View Full Version : 2018 D5 New Brake Pads at 33000km.
RichDisco5
26th April 2019, 06:17 PM
Hi All,
Love the car. But just in for a service. ‘Brake pads worn” light came on day before service, LR service people say I need new pads back and front. Nearly $2800 on top of service. What am I doing wrong?
scarry
26th April 2019, 06:29 PM
Many D4's,RRS, also needed pads and rotors at that sort of mileage.
Where you drive,around town or country as well as driving style has a major effect on brake pad wear.
Dirt roads and sand often wears out the rears prematurely.
Don't know about D5,but D4 have many after market pads and rotors that wear better than OEM,and don't leave the black dust on the rims.
The cost of $2800 seems excessive for just pads,but then again it is a price from an LR dealer.
Maybe it is rotors as well,but still seems excessive.
You could try a good LR Indie.
Actually,D4 OEM pads and rotors front and rear, are around half that cost fitted by a good Indie.
Slunnie
26th April 2019, 08:40 PM
Thats an outrageous charge to do pads only. Are they Brembo pads? If so, for my car you cant buy those specific pads in Aus apart from through the dealer, so I imported them and saved millions, possibly more.
grey_ghost
27th April 2019, 01:11 AM
I took my Skoda (bought new) in for a 70k service. Dealer told me that I needed new pads and rotors. I told the stealer “no thanks”.. Stealer said “your car isn’t road worthy”... Anyway the car has now done 130,000km and still the same rotors... I asked my local RWC mechanic to check them over and he said “there isn’t anything wrong with your rotors”... Ahem
They don’t call them stealers for nothing.... [emoji15]
disco gazza
27th April 2019, 07:07 AM
hi grey_ghost,
What model Skoda do you have.
Am thinking of getting a Kodiak when the new model comes out in a couple of years.
Any problems with it?
Thanks
Gazza
Geedublya
27th April 2019, 07:32 AM
Thats an outrageous charge to do pads only. Are they Brembo pads? If so, for my car you cant buy those specific pads in Aus apart from through the dealer, so I imported them and saved millions, possibly more.
millions? 100s of thousands I can believe but millions! I think you may be exaggerating.
To the OP. If you are in anyway mechanically adept replace them yourself. If not, an independent or even a trusted local mechanic will do it much cheaper.
grey_ghost
27th April 2019, 07:32 AM
Hi DiscoGazza,
Skoda Octavia RS Turbo wagon. Brilliant car - no issues with it so far. Great value for money, lots of features. (diesel) - get about 6.5L/100. Have seen over 200+ on the speedo (naturally on you tube).. [emoji1303][emoji3]
trout1105
27th April 2019, 08:09 AM
Maybe LR is trying to Claw back some of the money it is forking out for Warranty issues, Other than that I can't see any other "Valid" reason why they are charging $2800 for a simple and relatively inexpensive brake pad replacement job.
Get an Indy to do the brakes and IF the service itself is ridiculously high get a Indy to do that as well [thumbsupbig]
Slunnie
27th April 2019, 08:35 AM
millions? 100s of thousands I can believe but millions! I think you may be exaggerating.
To the OP. If you are in anyway mechanically adept replace them yourself. If not, an independent or even a trusted local mechanic will do it much cheaper.
:lol2:
Just a heads up, this is where I came unstuck. Mine is an Audi, but the problem I had was with the electric handbrake. I’m not sure if the LR is the same, but I needed to be able to get into the computer to make the electric handbrake fully retract rather than just release. The electric handbrake is an electric motor on the back of the brake calliper piston that squeezes the piston. A home mechanic like myself cant do this via the onboard electronics, so it still cost me $200 at the dealer to put the rear pads so they could fully release the calipers, but at least the pads were $100-150 per end instead of $500.
scarry
27th April 2019, 12:42 PM
Maybe LR is trying to Claw back some of the money it is forking out for Warranty issues, Other than that I can't see any other "Valid" reason why they are charging $2800 for a simple and relatively inexpensive brake pad replacement job.
Get an Indy to do the brakes and IF the service itself is ridiculously high get a Indy to do that as well [thumbsupbig]
Well the local stealer here did charge $220/hr a couple of years ago,so thats a start.[bigsad]
I stopped going to LR dealers 18yrs ago,except for warranty work.
Had a service at the local Toyota dealer on the van today,including wheel rotate and balance,$185 including GST.[thumbsupbig]
And done on a Saturday,the van has 273 000 on the clock,bought new,on original brakes.[bigrolf]
trout1105
27th April 2019, 06:12 PM
Well the local stealer here did charge $220/hr a couple of years ago,so thats a start.[bigsad]
I stopped going to LR dealers 18yrs ago,except for warranty work.
Had a service at the local Toyota dealer on the van today,including wheel rotate and balance,$185 including GST.[thumbsupbig]
And done on a Saturday,the van has 273 000 on the clock,bought new,on original brakes.[bigrolf]
All landrover Specialists are NOT created Equal and IF you are really lucky you will come across one that not only does Top rated work they can also be cheaper than the other workshops in town.
I fell onto my feet here in Geraldton WA with our local LR specialist as they don't sell Landrovers as far as I know they just fix and service them and they do a bloody good job and Don't charge like a wounded bull either[thumbsupbig]
scarry
27th April 2019, 06:44 PM
All landrover Specialists are NOT created Equal and IF you are really lucky you will come across one that not only does Top rated work they can also be cheaper than the other workshops in town.
I fell onto my feet here in Geraldton WA with our local LR specialist as they don't sell Landrovers as far as I know they just fix and service them and they do a bloody good job and Don't charge like a wounded bull either[thumbsupbig]
Are they Dealers,that is operated by JLR,or Indies?
Looking at their web site they appear to be Indies,with LR training.
They probably do warranty work as well,as the main dealers are a long way away.
Indies,from my experience are generally very good and charge reasonable rates,which is the reason I have used one near here for many years,and don’t use LR dealers.
It’s the main dealers that charge exorbadent prices,as per the many posts on this site.
And their workmanship often doesn’t have the best reputation.
trout1105
27th April 2019, 07:00 PM
Are they Dealers,that is operated by JLR,or Indies?
Looking at their web site they appear to be Indies,with LR training.
They probably do warranty work as well,as the main dealers are a long way away.
Indies,from my experience are generally very good and charge reasonable rates,which is the reason I have used one near here for many years,and don’t use LR dealers.
It’s the main dealers that charge exorbadent prices,as per the many posts on this site.
And their workmanship often doesn’t have the best reputation.
They are Indies But they specialise in LR ( I can't recall seeing any other brand in the workshop) and yes they also do warranty and servicing work.
I also own Toyota and Nissan 4WD's But I won't touch the dealers in town for these trucks for exactly the same reasons you wont[thumbsupbig]
Homestar
27th April 2019, 07:20 PM
$2,800 for pads? I just payed a third less than that for an entire disc brake conversion for the 101 including adaptors, discs, callipers AND pads. Surely they are taking the ****?
Stealers will be stealers....
Pedro_The_Swift
28th April 2019, 05:23 AM
anyone know the minimum rotor thickness??
that and a 2 dollar tape measure..
SBD4
28th April 2019, 07:22 PM
Hi All,
Love the car. But just in for a service. ‘Brake pads worn” light came on day before service, LR service people say I need new pads back and front. Nearly $2800 on top of service. What am I doing wrong?
I have found that since about 2016 the servicing costs have increased dramatically. I just thought I was just being charged a "Range Rover" tax. In September last year I was told by the dealer that I needed to have front and rear rotors and pads replaced. I asked them for a quote given I was feeling a little chaffed after recent service costs. The quote was $2200. Needless to say I said "no thanks" and took it to Roving Mechanical at Peakhurst. Everything was done for about $1K. The car was at 94K Km, it'd had the rear pads done previously at about 50K km. Both dealer an indi were amazed I had gotten 94K Km out of the fronts and 44K Km out of the rears. I was told 30-50K Km was normal. That, to me, is unacceptable.
I have done about 20K Km on this new set and have only 1mm of wear on the pads so far. Dealer was surprised. There are things you can do regarding driving style that can help. Also, I suspect the genuine parts are made to wear sooner.
The interesting thing for me regarding this indi is, I know two of the three guys there from the dealership I use and Pete(one of the owners) is a legend of the brand too. So there is no issue with confidence in their work or knowledge of the later models. My next service is with them.
INter674
2nd May 2019, 06:50 AM
No consolation but son's g friend was quoted 2500 to do the brakes on her vw gti golf...that was 5 months ago...we checked them and found no urgency and we'll do them for a third of that stealer cost. They pulled the same stunt with car not legal.. your kid will die etc etc.
Turtle60
2nd May 2019, 07:22 AM
Just had the same warning and a quick check revealed the sensor cable had worn through on the front wearing against the rim. I knew is wasn’t pads as I had just replaced the original pads and rotors at 110000. Replaced sensor myself for $20. Did they actually put your car on a hoist and have a look at the condition of the pads and rotors? When that sensor is triggered it is just reporting the “alledged” condition of one pad, in particular the inner front left pad or inner rear right pad is below threshold. The chances of two at once is remote.
I would get a written quote then and independent assessment. It could well mean a faulty inner piston on the rear calliper ( not uncommon) and in fact a warranty issue. Given these are much lighter than the D4 a full brake kit at 33000 is outrageous. Unless you’ve done 20000 of those on Fraser Island or drive with your left foot on the brake something is wrong.
Do not agree to this and postpone the service.
cheers steve
Didge
2nd May 2019, 08:39 AM
millions? 100s of thousands I can believe but millions! I think you may be exaggerating.
To the OP. If you are in anyway mechanically adept replace them yourself. If not, an independent or even a trusted local mechanic will do it much cheaper.
Hey Geoff, how are you?
Anyway mate, I've told him a million times not to exaggerate!
I can replace all four discs and pad sets on my 95 Defender for $400 for parts only - doesn't help it stop but hey, it's cheap :)
Blackrex
2nd May 2019, 08:56 AM
Over Easter I did the front and rear rotors and pads on my D4, using DBA 4000 rotors (T3 front, T2 rear) and DBA eXtreme Performance pads. The total cost for this was $680 and two hours work in my shed.
Barraman
2nd May 2019, 09:28 AM
$2800 for front and rear pads - sounds about par for the course to me. LR tax !
Didge
2nd May 2019, 09:29 AM
Over Easter I did the front and rear rotors and pads on my D4, using DBA 4000 rotors (T3 front, T2 rear) and DBA eXtreme Performance pads. The total cost for this was $680 and two hours work in my shed.
Wow, that's good to hear - gives me some hope of being able to afford a D4. So, based on the quote above, you effectively saved yourself around $1050/ hour - not a bad days work, eh?
Blackrex
2nd May 2019, 10:01 AM
Yep,
It's going towards the replacement primary turbo that failed later that day. [bigsad]
Didge
2nd May 2019, 11:32 AM
Yep,
It's going towards the replacement primary turbo that failed later that day. [bigsad]
LR's quality control - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44MgeRJN1Fw)
s_disco
2nd May 2019, 02:43 PM
Almost not surprising, dealer wanted to charge $200 to replace the windscreen wipers on a year old D4. I said no thanks, strangely 2 years later they are still working fine....
Hi All,
Love the car. But just in for a service. ‘Brake pads worn” light came on day before service, LR service people say I need new pads back and front. Nearly $2800 on top of service. What am I doing wrong?
brad72
2nd May 2019, 03:44 PM
For my D4 it Cost around $770 to purchase genuine front and rear genuine pads, non genuine front and rear rotors, plus non genuine front and rear sensors from my local indy. Simple job to install them as long as you have a torque wrench
I do remember however when the car was being serviced by landrover it was pretty expensive to get the work done an I would assume that D5 rotors may be more expensive if they have increased the diameter.
mike7
3rd May 2019, 12:26 AM
Not sure how different the D5 is to my D4 but had my front and rear pads done by LR a couple of months ago, $375/$450 including the wear sensor.
JAX Tyres also did mine a couple of years ago and was about the same as LR price using genuine parts.
$2800 for just pads is seriously ott.
kruff73
5th February 2020, 01:41 PM
My 2018 D5 just in for a service at 26000km and they also said I need new brake pads and discs, front and rear. Same price of $2800. Told him I am getting another quote and he offered me a 10% discount on the spot. When I said how come I need them replaced when the warning light hasn’t even come on yet, his reply was ‘it would have by the time I got home if I never replaced them’...... 🧐
scarry
5th February 2020, 01:48 PM
My 2018 D5 just in for a service at 26000km and they also said I need new brake pads and discs, front and rear. Same price of $2800. Told him I am getting another quote and he offered me a 10% discount on the spot. When I said how come I need them replaced when the warning light hasn’t even come on yet, his reply was ‘it would have by the time I got home if I never replaced them’...... 🧐
Bloody ridiculous,26000Km.No wonder LR vehicles get a bad name,maintenance is very expensive.
Our spare work van has 288 000K on it,never touched the brakes[bigwhistle]
Oh,the D4, done at 80K,which i suppose is just acceptable,can't remember how much it was,but it was no where near $2800,done by an Indie.
kruff73
5th February 2020, 05:31 PM
Must have been because I had ‘5 years free servicing’ thrown in when I bought it....
Plan going forward is for them to just do the basic servicing and anything extra, I’ll get a second opinion for a good independent mechanic.
tony_s
5th February 2020, 05:56 PM
I’ve done 60,000km, a fair bit of it towing a 2.5t van and the pads are still ok.
Tony
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