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HAZZA 553
29th April 2019, 12:51 AM
Hello all


Yay story time. I went to pick up my car from (Brisbane Air Port valet parking) the car has been sitting there for 3 years, Where it's supposed to be driven/moved around once and a while and kept (undercover).
However (Brisbane Air Port valet parking) had neglected to inform me that they have actually been keeping it out in the baking sun (not under cover) for the past 2/3ish years.
Because of that, the state of the car is absolutely devastating,:BigCry::firedevil::Thump: to say the least. Looks far worse in person don't even get me started on the .paint, plastic, and interior the list goes on and on such a shame for a one owner car...
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And of course, because of that, it had not been started in the past 3/2ish years at all. So when I went to collect my car I had to jump start it, and it started on the second go no problem, no smoke or anything smooth as butter and revving all good as far as the engine goes at a standstill.


The air suspension has a small leak somewhere in the front right I think it's just a split line. Went for a little drive and about 20 sec into it the dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree, followed by sporadic engine RPM (herky-jerky) above 40kph.
I'm thinking that a lot that has to do with the battery. It's safe to say It needs a new battery because the OEM AGM is absolutely shot after 3/2ish years of sitting. The battery has always been the Achilles heel of the reliability of the car. The only serious problems have been related to the battery so to say it's important is an understatement.


As far as replacement battery's I need it to last as long as possible because the car does sit for long periods of time. Because of this I'm thinking of the Delkor ln5 or Odyssey 49-950 the Odyssey has the highest (CCA) (PHCA) (AH) I have seen for a battery that will fit.

So your input and suggestions/advance on batteries would be a real help


Thanks, HAZZA

Eevo
29th April 2019, 05:38 AM
get a trickle charger

HAZZA 553
29th April 2019, 11:20 AM
get a trickle charger

Thanks for your suggestion, you have a valid point but I still need the most CCA in a battery that will fit.

Eevo
29th April 2019, 12:44 PM
Thanks for your suggestion, you have a valid point but I still need the most CCA in a battery that will fit.

yep, i'll leave that to the experts :)

rar110
29th April 2019, 04:43 PM
A battery retailer will tell you what battery will fit. I would connect up a 10 w solar panel and leave it on the dash.

HAZZA 553
29th April 2019, 08:51 PM
A battery retailer will tell you what battery will fit. I would connect up a 10 w solar panel and leave it on the dash.

Thank you for your feedback.

I went to a battery retailer yesterday and they told me about the usual 850 CCA AGM nowhere near the 950 CCA of the Odyssey. Connecting a solar panel is a great idea but I don't want the car to be parked outside anymore. Where I plan to park it, undercover there isn't a power outlet. I guess what I'm saying is if anyone has used the Odyssey or a Lead Crysta battery before in a single battery setup to give me feedback/advance.

Meccles
29th April 2019, 11:51 PM
Fit a battery isolator every time you park it up isolate the battery completely. Then you may have a chance of it retaining charge. You leave it hooked up no trickle charger that will kill any battery as there is always a drain on the battery. A good Odyssey etc should hold charge 6-12 months as long as it’s isolated

Pedro_The_Swift
30th April 2019, 05:10 AM
If you are not fitting a solar panel charger,, fit a car cover.

oh, and did the tyres survive 3 years of sitting in the one spot?

HAZZA 553
30th April 2019, 07:40 AM
If you are not fitting a solar panel charger,, fit a car cover.

oh, and did the tyres survive 3 years of sitting in the one spot?

Had I known the car was outside, I would have fitted a car cover and solar panel.
As far as the tyres are concerned no flat spots just less PSI I don't think there's any dry rot.

HAZZA 553
30th April 2019, 12:59 PM
Fit a battery isolator every time you park it up isolate the battery completely. Then you may have a chance of it retaining charge. You leave it hooked up no trickle charger that will kill any battery as there is always a drain on the battery. A good Odyssey etc should hold charge 6-12 months as long as it’s isolated
Thank you that's a great idea, I will keep that in mind next time I park it.

Meccles
30th April 2019, 01:35 PM
One thing you’ll need key to unlock it or fit isolator where you can access with bonnet down and car locked shouldn’t be too hard to do. No battery no remote lock/unlock. But that’s how I’d do it if stored for a while

HAZZA 553
30th April 2019, 01:48 PM
Does anyone have any ideas on using a Lead Crystal battery as a starter battery?

Bewitched
30th April 2019, 01:57 PM
Must have cost a bomb leaving at the airport valet parking for such a long time... No option to leave it with friends or something so they can keep it under cover and start it with some semblance of reliability?

What was the response from them regarding leaving it outside rather than under cover? I would be bloody livid!!

Sorry about sliding off topic there for a rant, but such a nice vehicle to be neglected that way by those not caring about your interests.

Plus one for the trickle charger - CTEK or similar will periodically recondition the battery as needed to keep it in perfect order for a very long time. Hard to do at the airport, but as an alternative to the airport, how about a storage shed (probably about same cost, secure, isolated, under cover) and also can get them with power to hook up the charger.

Another alternative, if you look at Parkhound, you can find folks renting out their garage, fraction of the cost of a storage facility. Usually being someone's garage, they give you the key and off you go. I had a sports car that I couldn't fit at home parked in a garage at a unit in Taringa for a year or so cost me about $35 per week which I thought was a bargain. For not a lot more I am sure you could negotiate a connection of a trickle charger to the battery, and all snug as a bug awaiting your return.

Way less than the cost of trying to restore the damage done by sun and exposure, and god forbid hail! How did it survive all the hail storms in that time unscathed? :eek2:

Bugger leaving it at the airport!!

HAZZA 553
30th April 2019, 02:19 PM
One thing you’ll need key to unlock it or fit isolator where you can access with bonnet down and car locked shouldn’t be too hard to do. No battery no remote lock/unlock. But that’s how I’d do it if stored for a while
Thanks totally agree:thumbsup:

HAZZA 553
30th April 2019, 10:28 PM
Must have cost a bomb leaving at the airport valet parking for such a long time... No option to leave it with friends or something so they can keep it under cover and start it with some semblance of reliability?

What was the response from them regarding leaving it outside rather than under cover? I would be bloody livid!!

Sorry about sliding off topic there for a rant, but such a nice vehicle to be neglected that way by those not caring about your interests.

Plus one for the trickle charger - CTEK or similar will periodically recondition the battery as needed to keep it in perfect order for a very long time. Hard to do at the airport, but as an alternative to the airport, how about a storage shed (probably about same cost, secure, isolated, under cover) and also can get them with power to hook up the charger.

Another alternative, if you look at Parkhound, you can find folks renting out their garage, fraction of the cost of a storage facility. Usually being someone's garage, they give you the key and off you go. I had a sports car that I couldn't fit at home parked in a garage at a unit in Taringa for a year or so cost me about $35 per week which I thought was a bargain. For not a lot more I am sure you could negotiate a connection of a trickle charger to the battery, and all snug as a bug awaiting your return.

Way less than the cost of trying to restore the damage done by sun and exposure, and god forbid hail! How did it survive all the hail storms in that time unscathed? :eek2:

Bugger leaving it at the airport!!

Thanks for your concern I was absolutely livid. Fisty cups [FishSlap]:2up: were warranted, but to my disappointment weren't utilized lol. I appreciate your concern for the Sport, as well as your suggestions. With regards to the hail, the only answer for this is Range Rover built quality and the car gods intervening. And in hindsight, I should have put it into a storage facility. However, the convenience of having it at the airport was enough for me to pay for the service they were supposed to be providing. Also, I didn't have anyone to leave it with. To answer your question as to why the car was left outside. 1 IDK, it defies logic. 2 The manager hide like a coward, I haven't spoken to him yet... So I'm going with, either the insurance or legal route. An update on the car's condition will be coming soon. PS What I've reported on is only the tip of the iceberg.

HAZZA 553
30th April 2019, 10:36 PM
One thing you’ll need key to unlock it or fit isolator where you can access with bonnet down and car locked shouldn’t be too hard to do. No battery no remote lock/unlock. But that’s how I’d do it if stored for a while
I thought about it, considering the electronics an isolator isn't the best thing for these cars. long term in a parking lot but still a good idea.

Bewitched
1st May 2019, 06:10 AM
Thanks for your concern I was absolutely livid. Fisty cups [FishSlap]:2up: were warranted, but to my disappointment weren't utilized. I appreciate your concern for the Sport, as well as your suggestions. With regards to the hail, the only answer for this is Range Rover built quality and the car gods intervening. And in hindsight, I should have put it into a storage facility. However, the convenience of having it at the airport was enough for me to pay for the service they were supposed to be providing. Also, I didn't have anyone to leave it with. To answer your question as to why the car was left outside. 1 IDK, it defies logic. 2 The manager hide like a coward, I haven't spoken to him yet... So I'm going with, either the insurance or legal route. An update on the car's condition will be coming soon. PS What I've reported on is only the tip of the iceberg.

I hope you have some success with whatever avenue gets traction there. Definitely shameful on their part if you have paid for undercover storage. Another suggestion - maybe put a shout onto the forum here next time you are heading away for an extended period. You may find someone has a spare space to protect your pride and joy and it will be looked out for that can be assured! Lots of folks on here have several vehicles and every one of them cares about Land Rovers.

drivesafe
1st May 2019, 08:15 AM
Hi HAZZA and first off, Lead Crystal batteries can NOT be used as a cranking battery. This is specifically stated by the manufacturer.


Next, no lead acid battery, such as an AGM, can be left for more than 3 months with out some form of maintenance charging. This is for an AGM and wet cell batteries should not be left for more than 1 month.


NOTE, the above is for batteries REMOVED from or disconnected in the vehicle.


If you intend to leave the battery in the vehicle and connected up at all times, then the maximum time with out charging the battery would be less than two weeks because the vehicle itself, will be constantly discharging the battery.


Just a suggestion, park your RRS where ever you are going to leave it for long periods, and as there is no way to trickle charge the battery, remove the battery and store it somewhere else, where you can maintain it.

HAZZA 553
1st May 2019, 08:32 AM
Hi HAZZA and first off, Lead Crystal batteries can NOT be used as a cranking battery. This is specifically stated by the manufacturer.


Next, no lead acid battery, such as an AGM, can be left for more than 3 months with out some form of maintenance charging. This is for an AGM and wet cell batteries should not be left for more than 1 month.


NOTE, the above is for batteries REMOVED from or disconnected in the vehicle.


If you intend to leave the battery in the vehicle and connected up at all times, then the maximum time with out charging the battery would be less than two weeks because the vehicle itself, will be constantly discharging the battery.


Just a suggestion, park your RRS where ever you are going to leave it for long periods, and as there is no way to trickle charge the battery, remove the battery and store it somewhere else, where you can maintain it.

Thank you, for all your great advice it's a real help. Just to clarify I can't use a Lead Crystal in a single battery setup, even on these cars with such high demanding electronics?
Also, have you or anyone you know used the Delkor ln5 or Odyssey 49-950?

HAZZA 553
1st May 2019, 10:07 AM
I hope you have some success with whatever avenue gets traction there. Definitely shameful on their part if you have paid for undercover storage. Another suggestion - maybe put a shout onto the forum here next time you are heading away for an extended period. You may find someone has a spare space to protect your pride and joy and it will be looked out for that can be assured! Lots of folks on here have several vehicles and every one of them cares about Land Rovers.

Thanks, I will keep that in mind.

The problem was, I didn't know when I was coming back for it. So it just extended and extended, until I was finally able to come back for it (from overseas).

btw I did pay for it, to be: stored undercover, driven, and moved around as part of their services.

4bee
2nd May 2019, 02:11 PM
Three years???? Cripes!

Did you suddenly wake up one morning & remember you owned a car? [biggrin]

Probably time to trade it in.

Stiltz
7th May 2019, 08:08 PM
I have the Dellor ln5 and it seems okay although after 4yrs it now needs replacing.
The longest I have left the car is for 1 month and it struggled slightly to start.