Log in

View Full Version : A essential Tool Kit for a Defender PUMA for remote touring?



Robmacca
26th May 2019, 05:43 PM
Guys,


Heading out to do the Madigan Line in the next 1-2mths and I'm wondering about what tools I should take for my '09 Defender Puma? There will be 5 of us in the Defender, so room/weight is an issue so I just want to take the essential tools.


> Regarding Socket and Spanner (open & Ring) Sizes - What are the sizes of the Sockets/Spanners that I will need for the PUMA?
> I know that most of the nuts/bolts in the PUMA is metric, but I believe there is some imperial as well - what sizes are these?
> Wheel bearing adjustment - what size is this or are the PUMAs different to the older Defenders for wheel bearing adjustment?
> I've got a Nanocom and the associated list of codes
> Multimeter / Test Light
> Pliers / Side cutters
> Vice Grips (small & medium sizes)
> Large Rubber Hammer + other hammer
> Inner or Outer Circlip Pliers?




looking for help and tips of what to take but also keep it lightweight if possible...

OneOff
26th May 2019, 05:58 PM
Watching with interest.

Heading to the West McDonnells in a few weeks in a ‘08 Puma and the same question has occurred to me.

No idea what a Nanocom is or does, do I need one??

W&KO
26th May 2019, 06:06 PM
Pretty sure the puma uses a stacked nut for the wheel bearings and have read owners converting back to the twin nut set up as with the older defenders.

When I did my Simpson trip the only issue I had was the clutch master, I carried an overhaul kit (slight space saving compared to a complete assembly), it held long enough until I was well and truly home. I now carry a complete assembly.

Robmacca
26th May 2019, 07:05 PM
Watching with interest.

Heading to the West McDonnells in a few weeks in a ‘08 Puma and the same question has occurred to me.

No idea what a Nanocom is or does, do I need one??

It's a diagnostic tool that reads and potentially clears any fault code that may pop up. Do u need one? well, good question... I bought one just in case and have already used it to determine a engine check light that came up on mine - It pointed to a MAF sensor but it turned out that water had gotten down into the MAF plug and formed corrosion on the pins resulting in a intermittent working MAF...

Toxic_Avenger
27th May 2019, 04:51 PM
My kit was small, and had a few essentials.
Golden rule- any repairs or maintenance you do on the car... attempt to do it using the tools in your kit. Add to this kit as needed.

Ratchet spanners- common sizes- 8-19mm.
A roll of double ended offset Ring spanners 8-19mm- probably duplication to some degree, but I use them in preference to open ended where I can.
300mm shifter for anything bigger, prying etc
Small hammer
Some basic screwdrivers - flat and philips. Make sure you can pry with at least one of them. I carried a stubby philips/flat combo, and a long flat head.
Tie Wire, Zip Ties, a handful of random nuts bolts etc (5-8mm metric - you never know, I guess).
Duct tape. Nashua 'Gaffer 357' would be ideal.
Some of that silicone rescue tape and a largish hose clamp (that can be made to a smaller size if needed). the silicone tape can and will perish and lose it's stick. Maybe wrap it in glad wrap and a zip lock bag for longer term storage.
Needle nose pliers
Side cutters
A cold chisel and pin punch.
Vise grips (can seal a hose in a pinch, or act as a ghetto vise)
Allen keys
Torx keys (NB dash board is held on by these)
I did carry a socket set for a while, which just makes things go faster. I did grab these first while replacing a diff guard in sturt national park on dusk.
I did make a point of carrying a 400mm 1/2" breaker bar and a 27mm socket for the wheel nuts (don't forget your lock nut key). Leave your torque wrench at home, instead lean to feel what wheel nut torque feels like with a standardised breaker bar. you'd be surprised how little it is.


Carry some spare fuses- for your car and any accessories.
A multimeter if you are competent with it (ain't worth squat if you aren't)
Some spare electrical wire (takes up no space and bugger all weight, but may come in useful)
6 each of Ring, spade, bullet terminals (can crimp with vise grips in a pinch)
Some people may advocate a grease gun, or spare oils... realistically, this is a function of how remote you are going, and whether you are alone. The likelihood of needing these can be a function of your maintenance leading up to that trip. Make this call yourself.

clive22
28th May 2019, 11:35 AM
Two 9/16 open ended spanners for the driveshaft nuts/bolts

trout1105
28th May 2019, 03:16 PM
Being a firm believer in "Murphy's Law" I usually carry a comprehensive tool kit (including a small stick welder) because the tools that I leave behind in the workshop will be the ones I will need on the track.
Not to mention pulling other travellers out of trouble because they had "Skimped" on their tool kits and had nothing useful on hand to fix their problems[bigwhistle]

Xtreme
28th May 2019, 03:56 PM
Re spanner sizes, I usually carry Metrinch which operate on the flats of the nuts/bolts and therefore each spanner covers a small range of sizes which, as the name implies, are good for metric and imperial.
Also good to use on any damaged/burred nuts.

LRJim
28th May 2019, 03:59 PM
Apart from my work tools drills saws nailbag etc. I cart a fair amount of tools in the D1, but manage to squeeze most in a 500x150x150 sidchrome spanner/socket set box.
In that box off the top of my head
Metric and imperial 1/2 set of loose sockets
Imperial 1/2" socket set on a rail
1/4 set of sockets loose
2x 1/2 ratchets 2x 1/4 ratchets
Several adapters, knuckles, extentions etc for the sockets
Metric and imperial spanner set with a few doubles
A few different size shifters
Loose screwdrivers flat and phillips head about 12 different ones
3/8 Torx socket set and hex head set
1/4 anti tamper set has all the small torx
Loose allen keys and some fold out sets
Ball joint remover
Multimeter
Hammer, pliers, crimpers, circlip pliers
And a bunch of other small loose tools
Thats JUST in that small toolbox

Under the back seat lives jumper leads, 900mm breaker bar, 600mm torque wrench and a few other loose things

Under the passenger seat lives spare parts which i dont have a great deal of at the moment. Normally would have a few bearings, serpentine belt, some plugs and leads, dissi rotor, spare fuses and relays and other bits that will stop me dead in my tracks.

Oil's and other spares 4l oil, 8l coolant, 500ml brake fluid, 1l atf, small grease gun filled with LMM, tub of bearing grease, wd40, lanolin spray, brake cleaner, electrical cleaner, hose clamps, some assorted wire, connectors, 2 bottle jacks and crap load I cant remember

I like to carry alot but honestly all that stuff dosnt take up much space at all. If I had more space id probably carry a lot more spare parts but whether they get used or not is another thing...

Xtreme
28th May 2019, 06:40 PM
With 3 Defenders in your group you should consider spreading the load of the tools and spares over the three vehicles. No point in each of you carrying the full complement of tools/spares when hopefully none of them will be needed.

Apart from tools and spares have you considered a solid tow bar or two. Provided wheel bearings are in good condition this will give you the ability to recover an incapacitated vehicle using two able vehicles to tow/push. I've done this successfully over hundreds of k's without any trouble. We had three of these on our 2007 Madigan trip (with seven Landys) but fortunately didn't need to use them.

trout1105
29th May 2019, 07:01 AM
There will be 5 of us in the Defender (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/#)

With 5 of you in a Defender you will be lucky to be able to carry a spare tooth brush, Have you considered towing a trailer to carry the extra gear?

ian4002000
29th May 2019, 04:55 PM
i suggest making sure you can connect and disconnect fuel lines and heater hoses as needed, my 2012 Puma has the new pushlock hose fittings and i purchased a set of the release thingys.
Also good idea to ensure you can change the intercooler hoses i think thse are prone to troubles and spare hoses might be a good idea.
i needed circlip pliers last breakdown to pull enable the axles to be disconnected. I managed with a small screw driver but i will add circlip pliers to my kit.
Extra care is an essential tool and money saver if needed.

Ian
Bittern

Eevo
29th May 2019, 05:38 PM
ask digger. he'll have a good list of spares...

Toxic_Avenger
29th May 2019, 06:07 PM
...I can feel the burn 2 states away :D

POD
30th May 2019, 09:22 AM
Hard to be sufficiently equipped to be self-reliant and to 'keep it light' at the same time. I've lost count of the number of times I have got strangers out of trouble where they would have otherwise been stranded due to their lack of preparedness.
re- Wheel bearings, I carry a pre-greased pair of bearings in a pot of wheel bearing grease. Your vehicle will have the staked nut and spacer which seems to be just a form of manufacturing shortcut, best to ditch these and install the earlier paired nuts and lock tabs so they can be serviced as required (don't forget to remove the spacer tube from between the bearings if you do this).
I also carry one rear and one front brake pad- they always wear unevenly and if you find one has gone near metal-to-metal you can slip it out and insert the spare. I keep the least-worn of a worn-out set for this.
The silicone repair tape obviates the need to carry a set of hoses, it will get you out of trouble until you get to somewhere the hose can be replaced (disclaimer- I have not used this stuff on coolant hoses, only on the turbo hoses).
I also carry a litre of gearbox oil and a litre of HD90 that will serve to top up the diffs or transfer in a pinch, say if a seal starts leaking.
Do you have equipment to repair a tyre if you get more flats than you have spares? I carry at least two tubes as well as patches, valves and a R&R Beadbreaker kit.

Nanocom: Yes you absolutely need some kind of code reader / resetter for remote touring in one of these vehicles. Limp mode across the Simpson anyone?

plusnq
30th May 2019, 11:12 AM
Nanocom: Yes you absolutely need some kind of code reader / resetter for remote touring in one of these vehicles. Limp mode across the Simpson anyone?


Yep. I had to limp out of the Simpson last year in the D4 when the CSO valve seized. It did teach me how little power you really need to get over the dunes. Nothing i took would have helped me with that issue. Ended up being flat bedded back to Brisbane with RACQ, whose service was excellent.

bln
5th June 2019, 04:55 PM
Rubber Mallet - that’s all you will need in your tool set. I did the Madigan July 2018 and needed the mallet to belt the aircon fan now and then to start it. 2012 Puma went like a charm. [bigsmile]

Toxic_Avenger
5th June 2019, 06:26 PM
Bush mallet:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/bradlys-double-7/images/0/09/Stick.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150118193601

spudfan
8th June 2019, 10:26 PM
This is a list of spares etc taken by Tom Sheppard for the 300 tdi Defender 90.

spudfan
8th June 2019, 10:59 PM
If you have tools in a tool roll you can store items like this inside the front bumper. It is not that difficult to put a plate at the back to seal it up. This can be held in place by removable screws in the top and bottom of the bumper. At least they will be easily accessible when needed. You can fit a storage pan beneath the inspection plate under the centre cubby box or tray. This can be made to size and it will fill the empty space between the gearbox and the inspection plate. Tom Sheppard did this in the 90. He hinged the cubby box so that it tilted upwards to give access to the storage space fitted underneath it. You might get space for 5 tooth brushes now!!

BradC
9th June 2019, 01:39 AM
Re spanner sizes, I usually carry Metrinch which operate on the flats of the nuts/bolts and therefore each spanner covers a small range of sizes which, as the name implies, are good for metric and imperial.
Also good to use on any damaged/burred nuts.

Just an extra vote for Metrinch. I bought a set of sockets/spanners back in 1999 and they've been my daily since then. Can't rate them highly enough when you need a set that will cope well with damage left by a previous ham-fisted hack when you're in the middle of nowhere. Metric, Imperial, BA, Whitworth and "mostly rounded by previously inappropriate use of an adjustable spanner made of cheese". They do it all.

MLD
12th June 2019, 10:11 AM
If not already stated, Premium Care from NRMA or your State's motoring organisation. Benefits of accommodation, personal transportation, vehicle transport and monetary allowances if more than 1,000 kms from home. Saved my bacon on a few occasions, reducing what could have been a very expensive situation to a modest expense and inconvenience of time. Best part it takes up no space nor adds weight to your vehicle.

DiscoMick
12th June 2019, 10:56 AM
Totally agree with MLD. Premium is the way to go and is worth every $. You only need to use it once to be convinced.

Robmacca
14th June 2019, 04:50 PM
If not already stated, Premium Care from NRMA or your State's motoring organisation. Benefits of accommodation, personal transportation, vehicle transport and monetary allowances if more than 1,000 kms from home. Saved my bacon on a few occasions, reducing what could have been a very expensive situation to a modest expense and inconvenience of time. Best part it takes up no space nor adds weight to your vehicle.

Yes, can vouch for that as well... Used it back in 2014 heading to the Cape where the Alternator failed on our Prado... It's amazing how much these CRD 4wds burn up the power even when running no A/C, no Fridge, etc... could only manage 2>3hrs a time before having to swap out the starter battery for the Aux battery... Managed to get to Mossman before having to call RACQ... then free room/board for the next 3days :)