Conspiracy Theories - The new Utterly Ridiculous Thread or is it?

[NavyDiver]

For those who think governments fake lots of things such as moon landings and 9-11 faked, Global warming is a hoax, The Aids virus was created in a laboratory, Fluoride, Elvis Presley faked his own death, Roswell..... we all know of a few.

Just consider for a minute that the US government cannot unlock a simple Iphone In the fight to unlock iPhones, the U.S. government has more to lose than Apple - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-apple-brand-20160223-story.html)

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Mick_Marsh]

And, dare I say it, neither can Apple.
Why else do you think they are opposing the request so vigorously.
Apple ordered to unlock Bernardino shooter's iPhone for FBI: Why can't authorities decrypt the device? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-24/why-cant-the-fbi-unlock-an-iphone-apple-vs-farook-case/7194842)

[Eevo]

i admit i dont know much about IOS, but what do they actually expect apple to do?

it's already locked and to update it with a backdoor, it needs to be unlocked.

[Ferret]

Why the FBI can't unlock Apple's iPhone (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-24/why-cant-the-fbi-unlock-an-iphone-apple-vs-farook-case/7194842)

I think the FBI should just cut Apple out of the picture. The CIA could have the aliens unlock it, probably already have. :)

[NavyDiver]

i admit i dont know much about IOS, but what do they actually expect apple to do?


help re 14 people shot dead perhaps?

San Bernardino shooting: At least 14 dead, suspects killed, after attack at California disability centre - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-03/suspects-killed-after-14-shot-dead-california/6996510)

[Eevo]

help re 14 people shot dead perhaps?

San Bernardino shooting: At least 14 dead, suspects killed, after attack at California disability centre - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-12-03/suspects-killed-after-14-shot-dead-california/6996510)

from a technical POV, what do they expect apple to do?

[ramblingboy42]

it's all just a conspiracy theory....

[mekon76]

Why the FBI can't unlock Apple's iPhone (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-24/why-cant-the-fbi-unlock-an-iphone-apple-vs-farook-case/7194842)

I think the FBI should just cut Apple out of the picture. The CIA could have the aliens unlock it, probably already have. :)

You'd think so, seeing as the cellular phone was alien tech.:D

[Carzee]

You'd think so, seeing as the cellular phone was alien tech.:D
....from the Constellation Motorola as I recall.

[Mick_Marsh]

You'd think so, seeing as the cellular phone was alien tech.:D
So was Velcro.

(Star Trek: Enterprise Ep. Carbon Creek)

[NavyDiver]

Apple to argue First Amendment in iPhone encryption fight - CNET (http://www.cnet.com/au/news/apple-to-argue-first-amendment-in-iphone-encryption-fight/)

[Mick_Marsh]

Apple chief Tim Cook calls FBI iPhone case of San Bernardino attacker 'bad for America' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-25/apple-chief-calls-fbi-iphone-case-bad-for-america/7200242)

[NavyDiver]

Along the lines of word association game again I have added for you viewing pleasure or horror this new one ( I just checked to be sure its the only thread of its name honest then I found the topic has some 50 pages and 490 hits in Aulor.com [wink11][wink11][wink11]

(https://www.aulro.com/afvb/threadloom/threadloom.php?query=Conspiracy%20Theories&tab=347)My start was tricky Considered "the moon is a hologram," which in Google is either disappointed or impressive as I was[thumbsupbig]

The Invasion of the Lizard People by a well known religion started by a since fiction writer lost me due to liking the authors yarns.

Flat earth wins for me. A navy mate whom sailed half way around the world with me thinks the earth is flat. The discussion over how some secret people pushed props around to fool the sailors in a large swimming pool to make us think we were moving across the oceans to different locations was a bit tricky for my brain to absorb. My thought that why anyone would bother fooling us low level matlows and that they would have used us to be the secret people to push the props around did not meet his expectations either. ( Did we or did we not move large building around you? )

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Whats your favorite?

[Toxic_Avenger]

9/11 was an inside job.
Discuss.

[Saitch]

Illuminati

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/magazine/2016/07-08/profile-adam-weishaupt-illuminati-secret-society/

[cripesamighty]

The moon landings were faked...even though NASA just released over 10,000 photos from the Apollo missions!

[350RRC]

Well it would take another 50 years to fake all those pics! [wink11]

DL

[350RRC]

Its amazing how many people have said to me that wind turbines never produce more energy over their lifespan than what takes to build them.

The data that dismisses this is part of some massive conspiracy apparently, related to Marxism etc.

DL

[speleomike]

I can't express it any better so here is a quote from the URL below:

"Hitler and many of his Nazi minions escaped Germany in the closing days of World War II and fled to Antarctica where at the South Pole they had discovered an entrance to the Earth's interior. According to the Hollow Earth Research Society in Ontario, Canada, they are still there. After the war, the organization claims, the Allies discovered that more than 2,000 scientists from Germany and Italy had vanished, along with almost a million people, to the land beyond the South Pole.
This story gets more complicated with Nazi-designed UFOs, Nazi collaboration with the people who live in the center of the Earth, and the explanation for "Aryan-looking" UFO pilots."

Nazis and the Hollow Earth Belief (https://www.liveabout.com/nazis-and-the-hollow-earth-2594410)

I really like this conspiracy theory :-) It's got all the elements required to keep it going for generations.

[87County]

Maybe the rapid expansion of wind farms is slowing the earth down and making each day longer.

[incisor]

Maybe the rapid expansion of wind farms is slowing the earth down and making each day longer.

seems the opposite is true for me as time seems to be flying!

[Bluetoes]

Flu vaccination an actual vaccination? or the government poisoning everyone?

[4bee]

Maybe the rapid expansion of wind farms is slowing the earth down and making each day longer.

Interesting. Maybe there is a bit of Reverse Thrust going on with all the turbines going against the natural rotation of the globe & tied in with a bit of Centrifugal Force of the blades, who knows the effects? Certainly not me. [smilebigeye]


Maybe the earth will come to a screeching halt one day & fall out of the universe, then guessing the make up of the "new" Deafener will the least of your worries.[biggrin]

[Hall]

I thought Hitler and is merry men where on the dark side of the moon. There is strong evidence that he may have gone to Argentina. As in pictures of him after the war. Yet another conspiracy theory.
Cheers Hall

[NavyDiver]

"In 2013, Newby saw a videotaped interview of Burgdorfer by indie filmmaker Tim Grey, in which Burgdorfer hinted that our current Lyme disease outbreak may be the result of a bioweapons experiment gone awry.

'Bitten' Explores a Lyme Disease Conspiracy | Outside Online (https://www.outsideonline.com/2395909/bitten-kris-newby-book-review)

Then to really toss the cats in with the pigeons -"Dead children bodies used in Nuclear Tests 'Project Sunshine' " (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_SUNSHINE)
It was true [tonguewink][tonguewink][tonguewink]

[Fattima]

Chemtrails....

Australia & New Zealand Against Chemtrails & Geoengineering - Home | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/AustraliansAgainstChemtrails/)

[superquag]

Where to start ?
How about "Politicians have our best interests at heart ?"

Never mind the Twin Towers with the fires up top, Building #7 falls down in the same way.... as a controlled demolition, or from a lower height fire that was going out. Or not.
YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk)

[4bee]

Where to start ?
How about "Politicians have our best interests at heart ?"

Never mind the Twin Towers with the fires up top, Building #7 falls down in the same way.... as a controlled demolition, or from a lower height fire that was going out. Or not.
YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zv7BImVvEyk)


How about the "so called" terrorist attack on the Pentagon?

No aircraft seen, Damage didn't coincide with the shape of an aircraft. A missile was supposedly observed & a number of other discrepancies that one could shoot holes in.



Just sayin.

[Toxic_Avenger]

Its amazing how many people have said to me that wind turbines never produce more energy over their lifespan than what takes to build them.

The data that dismisses this is part of some massive conspiracy apparently, related to Marxism etc.

DL

Lookup The Goldwind 'white rock' project near Glen Innes NSW. One of many windfarm projects in progress or underway around the country.
Approx 150 turbines total over 2 stages spanning a few years. Each is an impressive steel behemoth structure in its own right.

Each tower needs earthworks by large diesel machines, metres of cabling, deep concrete footings and the infrastructure to mix and batch this material into its final resting place (concrete is very environmentally unfriendly too, I might add), and access roads to tie it all together to a dedicated substation feeding the grid.
The workers are housed, fed, and drive to these remote sites each day to work.

Each tower is made up of up to 10 core components - tower tubes, propellor blades, generator units, being shipped up the new england highway some 300km. Each requires a 600HP truck, two pilot vehicles, and a police escort.
Assembly requires cranes, riggers and a whole assortment of equipment to erect them.

I watched this parade each day for months. I don't suppose these devices have a lifespan much more than 15 years.

I can see how some might question if it is an economically viable exercise, or just an environmental feel good ruse.

[350RRC]

Lookup The Goldwind 'white rock' project near Glen Innes NSW. One of many windfarm projects in progress or underway around the country.
Approx 150 turbines total over 2 stages spanning a few years. Each is an impressive steel behemoth structure in its own right.

Each tower needs earthworks by large diesel machines, metres of cabling, deep concrete footings and the infrastructure to mix and batch this material into its final resting place (concrete is very environmentally unfriendly too, I might add), and access roads to tie it all together to a dedicated substation feeding the grid.
The workers are housed, fed, and drive to these remote sites each day to work.

Each tower is made up of up to 10 core components - tower tubes, propellor blades, generator units, being shipped up the new england highway some 300km. Each requires a 600HP truck, two pilot vehicles, and a police escort.
Assembly requires cranes, riggers and a whole assortment of equipment to erect them.

I watched this parade each day for months. I don't suppose these devices have a lifespan much more than 15 years.

I can see how some might question if it is an economically viable exercise, or just an environmental feel good ruse.

Thanks Mitch.

The original myth was based on using 1.5 MW turbines 20+ years ago and the origins of it are well documented online.

The new ones at Ararat are 3.2 MW and the output is already available to see online. I'll post the link up when I get a chance in the next couple of days.

AFAIK this farm was built with private money and needed no subsidies to be a viable concern.

I'm interested in all options for power generation, from brown mud to anything.

cheers, DL

[Tote]

I grew up a couple of km from Newbridge Cemetery and never knew of the existence of Maryannes Grave. Despite searching every few years for an update I have never been able to find any more info. Was she buried with valuables and someone figured it would be worth digging her up?


THE body of a woman buried in a lonely bush grave south of Bathurst in 1855 has been dug up and taken from the site.

The grave is that of Maryann Tattersall, who died on September 20, 1855. It’s believed this grave at Newbridge is one of the oldest in Blayney Shire.

The iron fence which surrounded the grave is also missing.

The headstone and plinth were found buried under the soil removed from the grave, which appears to have been excavated recently by hand.


There is no apparent evidence of human remains in the open grave, which is around 1.7 metres deep.

After hearing of the grave’s desecration from my brother Chris Freestone, whose property adjoins the densely wooded area where the grave is located, I ventured to Newbridge on Saturday afternoon to see what damage had been done.

Maryann Tattersall’s grave is not actually in Newbridge cemetery, but in remnant bushland fenced off from both the cemetery and my brother’s property, Wychwood.

To get to the site it’s necessary to trek through timbered country into a slight gully. The grave is not visible from either Newbridge cemetery or my brother’s property.

Upon arrival I was shocked at the vandalism and I wonder what would drive someone to dig up a body which was laid to rest 153 years ago.

I learned of this lonely grave some years ago through my brother who, like me has an interest in history. I had visited the site once before.

Luckily, Chris photographed Maryann Tattersall’s grave some years ago.

On Saturday, our first inspection of the area revealed a rectangular hole where the grave had been. There were large piles of loosely packed soil surrounding the hole, indicating the desecration was relatively recent.

The area is heavily wooded and it appears it would have been impossible to get machinery into the area to excavate the grave.

At first there was no sign of the the headstone, plinth or iron fence.

My nephew’s dog, Horse, began scratching around in one of the piles of soil and in the process revealed the corner of the plinth.


The Hamer family, who are constructing a wall in Newbridge cemetery for the interment of ashes, brought along a shovel and some digging revealed Maryann Tattersall’s headstone lying face down in one of the piles of dirt.

Blayney and Bathurst police have been informed of the desecration and were examining the scene yesterday.

WHO DUG UP THIS OLD GRAVE? | Western Advocate (https://www.westernadvocate.com.au/story/898604/who-dug-up-this-old-grave/)

Regards,
Tote

[mekon76]

How about the "so called" terrorist attack on the Pentagon?

No aircraft seen, Damage didn't coincide with the shape of an aircraft. A missile was supposedly observed & a number of other discrepancies that one could shoot holes in.



Just sayin.

Not looking hard enough... Loads of witnesses, pictures, even video from a service station forecourt. Conspiracy theorists can't use the scientific method to disprove the plane hit it. The usual reply from Conspiracy theorists is, "You're blind sheep and can't open your mind to the truth" type crap. Think critically and not jump in for some nut-job's theory.

9/11 Conspiracy Theories - Debunking the Myths - Pentagon (https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/)

The Pentagon after the 9/11 attack – in pictures | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/gallery/2017/mar/31/pentagon-after-911-attack-american-airlines-flight-77-in-pictures)

Bringing Closure to the 9/11 Pentagon Debate | Foreign Policy Journal (https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2016/10/07/bringing-closure-to-the-911-pentagon-debate/)

[4bee]

Of course you are correct m76. My apologies. I didn't look hard enough, but my memory was harking back to when it happened & the images & circumstances of the time.
I really haven't given it much thought since then.

[101RRS]

My conspiracy theory is that AULRO is really a LR/4wd forum but you would never know it from the threads [bigwhistle] [bigrolf]

[vnx205]

Apparently the best way to respond to a conspiracy theorist is to offer them an even more outrageous conspiracy.

For example if you are told by a 9/11 conspiracy theorist that jet fuel can't melt steel beams, the correct response is to say,"But what about that stuff in the chemtrails tanks? Who knows what temperature that burns at".

If someone claims the moon landings were faked, scoff at them for being someone who is unaware of the fact that the moon is only a hologram.

[4bee]

Not only a Hologram but also made of Blue Cheese. Well, it was when I was there last.[smilebigeye]

[V8Ian]

Not only a Hologram but also made of Blue Cheese. Well, it was when I was there last.[smilebigeye]
Yummmmm, why didn't you bring it all back? [bigsad]

[superquag]

Not only a Hologram but also made of Blue Cheese. Well, it was when I was there last.[smilebigeye]

BLUE cheese ? Yechh ! - no wonder the Gastronomically-challenged Americans stopped going there !

[mekon76]

Of course you are correct m76. My apologies. I didn't look hard enough, but my memory was harking back to when it happened & the images & circumstances of the time.
I really haven't given it much thought since then.

No need for an apology. I find the internet has killed the idea of critical thinking for the current generation. It's like a machine that gives an answer and is the 'truth.' This terrifies me. It's not shocking enough that the event happened and terrorists destroyed buildings, killing people with hijacked planes in the name of their religious beliefs and in response to US foreign policy. This is banal enough without having to come out with the type of bull**** people like Alan Jones rant on about.

Like these NRA nut job supporters who deny the massacre of school children at Sandy Hook. These individuals are so ****ing mental they face the families of the victims and accuse them of being paid actors in part of a false flag operation to push the anti-gun agenda.

[4bee]

Yummmmm, why didn't you bring it all back? [bigsad]

Well, I did think about that 58i, [smilebigeye] but came to the conclusion that all those enjoying nocturnal trysts would be left in the dark & who knows where that could end?[biggrin]

Maybe next time huh?

[4bee]

Then after today they will have some more ammo as another eleven have been killed by shooting, I'm sorry to hear.

[akula]

No need for an apology. I find the internet has killed the idea of critical thinking for the current generation. It's like a machine that gives an answer and is the 'truth.' This terrifies me. It's not shocking enough that the event happened and terrorists destroyed buildings, killing people with hijacked planes in the name of their religious beliefs and in response to US foreign policy. This is banal enough without having to come out with the type of bull**** people like Alan Jones rant on about.

Like these NRA nut job supporters who deny the massacre of school children at Sandy Hook. These individuals are so ****ing mental they face the families of the victims and accuse them of being paid actors in part of a false flag operation to push the anti-gun agenda.

Where is the evidence that the Internet has killed critical thinking?

I can't imagine how much more difficult and constrained my research at uni would have been without instant access to hundreds if not thousands of journals online.

Maybe there is an under-appreciation of the potentially advanced information processing skills of the current generation as they adapt to their digital environment and the dramatic increase of information available to them?

I wonder if there was a similar generational shift following the proliferation of the printing press?

[DiscoMick]

Fluoride is slowly killing us all.

Elvis is alive and living in Dubbo.

Harold Holt was kidnapped by the Chinese.

[DiscoMick]

Actually, I think I may have once met Elvis in Dubbo. He certainly had the right sideburns.

[4bee]

If he was carrying a gold Guitar then it could have been Tamworth, Mick.[smilebigeye]

[DiscoMick]

No, it was definitely Dubbo. [emoji16]

Mind you, it is also said he wanders around Tamworth each year just to see if anyone picks him from the impersonators.

It is also said he has an exclusive contract with Uber Eats International for the daily delivery of four burgers with fries to him anywhere in the world. Uber is said to have supplied him with a special GPS so they can always deliver to him.

[pop058]

If he was carrying a gold Guitar then it could have been Tamworth, Mick.[smilebigeye]
Nah, that would have been Mr Kirkpatrick, the real king of music. [biggrin]

[4bee]

No, it was definitely Dubbo. [emoji16]

Mind you, it is also said he wanders around Tamworth each year just to see if anyone picks him from the impersonators.

It is also said he has an exclusive contract with Uber Eats International for the daily delivery of four burgers with fries to him anywhere in the world. Uber is said to have supplied him with a special GPS so they can always deliver to him.


Four burgers with fries per day??? OMFG! He'll want to be careful, that could kill him.[smilebigeye]

[superquag]

Fluoride is slowly killing us all.

Elvis is alive and living in Dubbo.

Harold Holt was kidnapped by the Chinese.

,,, one out of three ain't bad,,,

[DiscoMick]

Well, I've seen Elvis (I think) so the other two must be false, yes?

[DiscoMick]

Where is the evidence that the Internet has killed critical thinking?

I can't imagine how much more difficult and constrained my research at uni would have been without instant access to hundreds if not thousands of journals online.

Maybe there is an under-appreciation of the potentially advanced information processing skills of the current generation as they adapt to their digital environment and the dramatic increase of information available to them?

I wonder if there was a similar generational shift following the proliferation of the printing press?There was. Catholic priests were horrified at the idea the ignorant masses could read the Bible for themselves, rather than going through a priest. They might get it wrong!
The result was the Reformation, based on the priesthood of all believers.

[ramblingboy42]

I thought Elvis was in Parkes......I've seen him there.

[ramblingboy42]

I think the moon hologram people got it mixed up.

It's hollow, not a hologram .....maybe some thought it was hollowgram.

[4bee]

I thought Elvis was in Parkes......I've seen him there.


I realise one can see a lot of oddball things in Parks but I doubt Elvis is one of them.[biggrin]

[JDNSW]

There is a difference between "parks" and "Parkes"! In Parkes, each January you will find several thousand Elvis. (Or is it Elvises?)

[pop058]

I realise one can see a lot of oddball things in Parks but I doubt Elvis is one of them.[biggrin]

151545

[4bee]

(Or is it Elvises?)


What about him being an Elvi ? [smilebigeye]

[JDNSW]

From memory (been over sixty years), if 'elvis' was a third declension noun, the plural would be 'elves', but that only raises more problems, seeing that is a homonym for the plural of a different English word, 'elf'.

[ramblingboy42]

The Skeptic's Dictionary (http://skepdic.com/)

this will help you all, there are hundreds of conspiracy theories here.......read away

[4bee]

I don't need to read that as I am happy making up all my own Conspiracy Theories RB. [biggrin]

[AndyG]

Carbon is bad but your forgiven if you buy a Carbon Credit, just dont ask for too much documentation.

Reminds me of the good old days as a Catholic , when your sins were forgiven if you bought an Indulgence,

[AndyG]

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[Eevo]

im a bit of a sceptic. so i like doing research and seeing what evidence there is for alternative theories.

9-11, definitely sus
moon landing, confident they did it. amazed they did it with the technology and how hard it is for us to do now days.
jfk, definitely sus.
flat earth, i feel like this is a joke that got out of hand

[4bee]

Does that make the Carbon magically disappear?[smilebigeye]

[JDNSW]

As a general rule for conspiracy theorists, I would suggest considering Hanlon's Razor, one version of which is that "incompetence is much more likely than conspiracy".

[Eevo]

"incompetence is much more likely than conspiracy".

we use this saying at work all the time.

[DiscoMick]

Could the rumour be true that inside every ATM is an overworked hamster running on a treadmill?
Sounds unlikely, but you never know.

[superquag]

Carbon is bad but your forgiven if you buy a Carbon Credit, just dont ask for too much documentation.

Reminds me of the good old days as a Catholic , when your sins were forgiven if you bought an Indulgence,

Why is carbon SO bad ? - Plants and TREES love the gaseous variant, CO2, which they use along with water to transmute into 'plant food' - which makes the TREE grow... and pumps out OXYGEN as a by-product.
So, the more CO2, the more the green things grow...and produce more O2 for us animals to breath...and crops grow that bit better...as do our veggies... 'cos the plants are being fed MORE FOOD !!!

'Climate Change' is being foisted upon the world by the UN (again...) and I strongly suspect there's a political / financial basis for it, probably 'wealth re-distribution'

[DiscoMick]

Carbon is fine if it's locked up in trees, but is bad if the trees are cleared and burnt, which releases the carbon into the atmosphere. So keep carbon stored to avoid screwing up the atmosphere.

[Saitch]

Now Mick, putting trees aside, 18% of the human body is carbon. The annual world death rate is around 55 million. That's a lot of carbon going into the environment each year and the population is growing quickly.
In saying this, the human body is 65% oxygen so, shouldn't we be breathing easy?

[speleomike]

Hi all

The problem isn't the element carbon, it's the gases such as carbon dioxide and methane which are "green house gases". Methane is even 30 times more powerful as a greenhouse gas then carbon dioxide. They absorb strongly in the infra-red and so trap heat very effectively. Have a look at the graph here.
Down To Earth Climate Change - Resources (https://globalclimate.ucr.edu/resources.html) and Carbon Dioxide (https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/carbon-dioxide/) and Evidence & Facts on Climate Change (https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/)

Now on the graph in the first link, ignore the absolute scale. Think of it as just relative changes and consider that sudden recent rise. Now if you saw that graph as a temperature rise of your tires on your TPMS I think you would be concerned :-)

Mike

[carjunkieanon]

As a general rule for conspiracy theorists, I would suggest considering Hanlon's Razor, one version of which is that "incompetence is much more likely than conspiracy".

I like that! Hadn't heard of Hanlon's Razor.

I know of Occam's razor of course - a razor owned by a bloke named Occam. That's the simplest explanation!

[JDNSW]

See the discussion of Hanlon's Razor on Wikipedia. Actually, if you think about it, Occam's razor usually will cut off most conspiracy theories. They usually imply levels of expertise and security that are simply not encountered in the real world. There are always leaks and errors that lift the lid whenever more than half a dozen are involved, especially if we are talking about more than a few days in time.

[ramblingboy42]

'Climate Change' is being foisted upon the world by the UN (again...) and I strongly suspect there's a political / financial basis for it, probably 'wealth re-distribution'

this sounds like a conspiracy theory.......

[DiscoMick]

Adolf Hitler is alive and living on an isolated farm in Argentina.

Paul McCartney died in 1966 and was replaced by a look-alike.

Black-coloured helicopters are part of a UN conspiracy to rule the world.

[DiscoMick]

I particularly like this one:

Denver airport stands above an underground city which is the headquarters of the New World Order or Illuminati, which is why the US$1 note has the Eye of Providence or all-seeing eye of god, in the corner.

[Homestar]

Adolf Hitler is alive and living on an isolated farm in Argentina.

At 130 years old, he’s doing quite well for himself then.

[350RRC]

Thanks Mitch.

The original myth was based on using 1.5 MW turbines 20+ years ago and the origins of it are well documented online.

The new ones at Ararat are 3.2 MW and the output is already available to see online. I'll post the link up when I get a chance in the next couple of days.

AFAIK this farm was built with private money and needed no subsidies to be a viable concern.

I'm interested in all options for power generation, from brown mud to anything.

cheers, DL

Link for all info:

ELJM: NEM Regional Generation Summary (http://nemlog.com.au/gen/region/)

DL

[DiscoMick]

At 130 years old, he’s doing quite well for himself then.
Its not my conspiracy myth, but I suppose he must have an oxygen machine.

[Eevo]

Its not my conspiracy myth, but I suppose he must have an oxygen machine.

clones.

[Tote]

Could the rumour be true that inside every ATM is an overworked hamster running on a treadmill?
Sounds unlikely, but you never know.
The one in Lightning Ridge always had resident redbacks inside but they did not contribute to its efficient operation (or to the comfort of the schmuck that had to fix it) A large can of fly spray emptied into it and a 5 minute wait usually did the trick.

Regards,
Tote

[DiscoMick]

Do hamsters cark it if hit with fly spray?

[Tote]

They're OK, you just have to be careful not to spray in their feed hopper next to the note cartridges.[smilebigeye]

Regards,
Tote

[4bee]

At 130 years old, he’s doing quite well for himself then.

Must be growing & eating all the right natural foods. There'd be no shortage of imported blood & bone.[bigsad]




The one in Lightning Ridge always had resident redbacks inside but they did not contribute to its efficient operation (or to the comfort of the schmuck that had to fix it) A large can of fly spray emptied into it and a 5 minute wait usually did the trick.


One wonders whether a can of spray shot inside is the cause of the problem making the Hamsters feet skid.

Solution. Fit a 4WD Hamster. Job done.[smilebigeye]

[AndyG]

'Climate Change' is being foisted upon the world by the UN (again...) and I strongly suspect there's a political / financial basis for it, probably 'wealth re-distribution'

this sounds like a conspiracy theory.......

Is it just a coincidence Al Gore is so wealthy

[AndyG]

I have irrefutable proof global warming is causing carbon dioxide levels to increase.

But, if i can sell a Billion Dollars of Global Cooling credits i can fix it.

My Nigerian Bank account is .............

[350RRC]

I have irrefutable proof global warming is causing carbon dioxide levels to increase.

But, if i can sell a Billion Dollars of Global Cooling credits i can fix it.

My Nigerian Bank account is .............

I tried but your account is encrypted in this thread to just dots.

DL

[4bee]

- I have irrefutable proof global warming is causing carbon dioxide levels to increase


Well, I would say certainly Blood Pressures are.[smilebigeye]

[4bee]

Is it just a coincidence Al Gore is so wealthy


He would need to be. He's the bloke that lectures the world on Climate Change & at Xmas time lights up his gaff (US Style) with 20million watts of electricity.


Hypocritical bastard! [bigsad]

[donh54]

Do hamsters cark it if hit with fly spray?Only the flying ones!

[Tote]

Do the Flying Hamsters belong in the Flying Circus?

[superquag]

Is it just a coincidence Al Gore is so wealthy

And how about the carbon footprint of Mr Gore, with all his travelling by airliner... and his own house, a huge power consumer.

[4bee]

Do the Flying Hamsters belong in the Flying Circus?

I suspect only if they wear pointy Clown hats with polka dots all over them & ruffles around the neck. Oh, they have to wear very baggy pants & fall over a lot & be able to ride a Unicycle.

[DiscoMick]

He would need to be. He's the bloke that lectures the world on Climate Change & at Xmas time lights up his gaff (US Style) with 20million watts of electricity.


Hypocritical bastard! [bigsad]I think you'll find the criticism of Gore's house is inaccurate and out of date.

FACT CHECK: A Tale of Two Houses (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tale-two-houses/)

[V8Ian]

What about his flying habits?

[DiscoMick]

Anyone who flies contributes to that, so it's unfair to single out anyone. What's he supposed to do - walk on water?

[4bee]

Thanks Mick a most interesting article.

But for someone who spouted "do as I say not as I do" crap, he did publicly take the the **** for many years & helloooooo, a person on such a mission should have known better before he flicked the switches.

[DiscoMick]

From memory, his house - which is certainly huge, but I think I read somewhere that several rooms are used as offices by his staff - has solar, geothermal, lots of insulation and wastewater recycling, so he's certainly tried to be renewable.

Of course, the climate change deniers, rather than respond to his inconvenient truths, set out to personally attack him to try to dent his credibility, so that fake news campaign has to be taken into account when considering the mud thrown at him.

[V8Ian]

Anyone who flies contributes to that, so it's unfair to single out anyone. What's he supposed to do - walk on water?
Most of us travel cattle class, with scores or hundreds of others, on one plane; not charter private jets, so he can state "I don't own my own jet."

[DiscoMick]

A private jet would be smaller than a commercial airliner and produce fewer emissions.
Anyway, it's the manufacturers who have to deal with that.

[Bigbjorn]

Most of us travel cattle class, with scores or hundreds of others, on one plane; not charter private jets, so he can state "I don't own my own jet."

I find it a bit lonely out on the river in the morning since Gough Whitlam died.[bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

I find it a bit lonely out on the river in the morning since Gough Whitlam died.[bigwhistle]
Out in the Electorate? [biggrin]

[AndyG]

A private jet would be smaller than a commercial airliner and produce fewer emissions.
Anyway, it's the manufacturers who have to deal with that.


That makes as much sense as saying the sun is always shining in Australia, so we can have Solar 24 hours a day, oh wait ................

[DiscoMick]

I assumed people were smart enough to realise that, when discussing solar, we were talking about daytime, but apparently I was wrong to assume people could figure that out without me needing to state the bleeding obvious.

[Bigbjorn]

Out in the Electorate? [biggrin]

That was Tom Burns. I would often see him when I was having a stroll on Waterloo Bay.[bigwhistle]

[RANDLOVER]

I heard it on the "Lethal Weapon" TV show so it must be true, "Stevie Wonder is not really blind".

[NavyDiver]

This is to cool for school and true
"On the morning of December 4, 2016, Edgar Maddison Welch, a warehouse worker and a father of two from Salisbury, North Carolina, told his family that he had a few things to do; loaded an AR-15, a .38-calibre revolver, and a folding knife into his car; and headed for Washington, D.C. Welch’s intention, he later told police, was to “self-investigate” a plot featuring—in no particular order—Hillary Clinton, sex trafficking, satanic rituals, and pizza.
At around 3 P.M., Welch arrived at Comet Ping Pong, a restaurant in Chevy Chase, where, he believed, children were being held in a network of tunnels. He made his way to the kitchen, shot open a locked door, and discovered cooking utensils. In an interview from jail, a few days later, he acknowledged to the Times, “The intel on this wasn’t a hundred percent.” He’d found no captive children in the restaurant’s basement; in fact, as many accounts of the incident noted, Comet Ping Pong doesn’t even have a basement."

Link (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/22/whats-new-about-conspiracy-theories)

Ok it could be a fake thread from a nutter with a range rover with pink fluffy seats [biggrin]

Or it could be true as Aunty even reported (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-23/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-jail/8645234) it

151998

[RANDLOVER]

Wearing an al-foil hat stops the aliens from using "Mind Control" on one. I'm wearing mine now, so they won't even know I've given away their secret! Pass it on.

[DiscoClax]

But put your tin lid on first!

[DiscoMick]

Holding onto a power pole with one hand and your mobile with the other hand improves the phone signal?

[4bee]

Well, holding your remote fob against your forehead certainly increases the range & sensitivity. No kid.



Hey ND, what have you got against Pink Fluffy?

Ra - Ros I can understand, but why Pink & Fluffy, pray tell?

:Rolling:



Holding onto a power pole with one hand and your mobile with the other hand improves the phone signal?

Not if the steel pole is alive it won't.

A number of years ago here a couple of young Joggers were running up a main road when one accidentally touched a Concrete & Steel Stobie Pole in passing by. Bloke was electrocuted & died even though they were adjacent to the local Fire Station & aid which was promptly given by the On Duty Firies.

After the event someone had noticed the soil around the pole base had been seen steaming.[bigsad]

[350RRC]

Well, holding your remote fob against your forehead certainly increases the range & sensitivity. No kid.....................

The range and sensitivity of what?

DL

[Bigbjorn]

Wearing an al-foil hat stops the aliens from using "Mind Control" on one. I'm wearing mine now, so they won't even know I've given away their secret! Pass it on.

Are you a former Victorian?[bigrolf]

[4bee]

The Fob Transmitter of course.[smilebigeye]

[DiscoMick]

Wearing an al-foil hat stops the aliens from using "Mind Control" on one. I'm wearing mine now, so they won't even know I've given away their secret! Pass it on.Is yours an Aluminium Foil Deflector Beanie, only $125 on Amazon? All the best paranoids have them. Cheap at the price. [emoji16]

https://www.amazon.com/Aluminum-Foil-Deflector-Beanie-Protection/dp/1581603762

[NavyDiver]

Well, holding your remote fob against your forehead certainly increases the range & sensitivity. No kid.



Hey ND, what have you got against Pink Fluffy?

Ra - Ros I can understand, but why Pink & Fluffy, pray tell?

:Rolling:




Not if the steel pole is alive it won't.

A number of years ago here a couple of young Joggers were running up a main road when one accidentally touched a Concrete & Steel Stobie Pole in passing by. Bloke was electrocuted & died even though they were adjacent to the local Fire Station & aid which was promptly given by the On Duty Firies.

After the event someone had noticed the soil around the pole base had been seen steaming.[bigsad]

PINK I would not be seen dead in PINK, My sister brought me one- she told me it was watermelon colour so I liked it

[biggrin]

I do suspect more than a few city kids visiting farms with electric fences found even airborne pee can conduct electricity or was that just my farm. Or Not?

[4bee]

You never know ND it may be the most exciting sexual experience some may ever have. Hhmmmm, where was/is your farm? :Rolling:



I think the idea was you eat it not sit your bum on it.:Thump:[smilebigeye]

[DiscoMick]

PINK I would not be seen dead in PINK, My sister brought me one- she told me it was watermelon colour so I liked it

[biggrin]

I do suspect more than a few city kids visiting farms with electric fences found even airborne pee can conduct electricity or was that just my farm. Or Not?We used to trick our city visitors with that one when I was a kid on the farm. [emoji16]

[JDNSW]

From my childhood - you demonstrate that it is safe to touch the wire with a stalk of grass or a leaf - but manage to ensure that the visitor has a green one while you have dry one!

[DiscoMick]

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that it used to be believed that witches were conspiring to invade our minds while sleeping, so the recommendation was to smear the menstrual blood of a virgin on the doormat to deter the witches from coming in the front door. Presumably witches were not considered agile enough to come in the windows. However, I can't report if it works because no known witches have tried to invade us recently. Also, we're a bit lacking in resident virgins - even the dog's virginity is questionable. [emoji16]

[4bee]

I can't report if it works because no known witches have tried to invade us recently.


It sounds to me like it works then. [smilebigeye]


Btw, you have met my MiL .[biggrin]

[350RRC]

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that it used to be believed that witches were conspiring to invade our minds while sleeping, so the recommendation was to smear the menstrual blood of a virgin on the doormat to deter the witches from coming in the front door. Presumably witches were not considered agile enough to come in the windows. However, I can't report if it works because no known witches have tried to invade us recently. Also, we're a bit lacking in resident virgins - even the dog's virginity is questionable. [emoji16]

Used tampons placed under the wipers of people abusing parking restrictions where I used to live worked a treat.

Probably contained virgin blood.

They must have thought it was some sort of voodoo or something. [wink11]

cheers, DL

[rick130]

This is to cool for school and true
"On the morning of December 4, 2016, Edgar Maddison Welch, a warehouse worker and a father of two from Salisbury, North Carolina, told his family that he had a few things to do; loaded an AR-15, a .38-calibre revolver, and a folding knife into his car; and headed for Washington, D.C. Welch’s intention, he later told police, was to “self-investigate” a plot featuring—in no particular order—Hillary Clinton, sex trafficking, satanic rituals, and pizza.
At around 3 P.M., Welch arrived at Comet Ping Pong, a restaurant in Chevy Chase, where, he believed, children were being held in a network of tunnels. He made his way to the kitchen, shot open a locked door, and discovered cooking utensils. In an interview from jail, a few days later, he acknowledged to the Times, “The intel on this wasn’t a hundred percent.” He’d found no captive children in the restaurant’s basement; in fact, as many accounts of the incident noted, Comet Ping Pong doesn’t even have a basement."

Link (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/04/22/whats-new-about-conspiracy-theories)

Ok it could be a fake thread from a nutter with a range rover with pink fluffy seats [biggrin]

Or it could be true as Aunty even reported (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-23/pizzagate-gunman-sentenced-to-jail/8645234) it

151998This was a huge thing, a ****** called Alex Jones has a huge following on YouTube and sprouts extreme right wing conspiracy theories including this one.

[superquag]

Is it just a coincidence Al Gore is so wealthy

It's also reported that the 'energy efficiency / useage' of his ranch-house leaves a bit to be desired.....

[superquag]

[QUOTE=DiscoMick;2913998]Fluoride is slowly killing us all.

Elvis is alive and living in Dubbo.


One out of three ain't bad... (apologies to the song...)
Hint:- It is reputed to lower IQ in children, a point or three, which for some folk might be seen as critical . [bigwhistle]

Hopefully, we all see the irony in this link...
Major Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Lowers IQ (https://naturalsociety.com/harvard-study-published-federal-govt-journal-confirms-fluoride-lowers-iq/)

[DiscoMick]

Propaganda from an anti-fluoride agitator. All the report did was to confirm some anti-fluoride peopke were against fluoride. No surprise there.

[Bigbjorn]

[QUOTE=DiscoMick;2913998]Fluoride is slowly killing us all.

Elvis is alive and living in Dubbo.


One out of three ain't bad... (apologies to the song...)
Hint:- It is reputed to lower IQ in children, a point or three, which for some folk might be seen as critical . [bigwhistle]

Hopefully, we all see the irony in this link...
Major Harvard Study Confirms Fluoride Lowers IQ (https://naturalsociety.com/harvard-study-published-federal-govt-journal-confirms-fluoride-lowers-iq/)

True. Elvis Aaron Presley used to live in the Tandarra Caravan Park, Beenleigh. At last he was still alive there in 1995. He was a Disability Pensioner. Poor chap had a few mental health problems.

[4bee]

Well, with all those drugs he allegedly used, it is no wonder the poor bloke was disabled.[smilebigeye]

[DiscoMick]

Likes ice cream too, I heard.

[DiscoMick]

They Kinda Want to Believe Apollo 11 Was Maybe a Hoax They Kinda Want to Believe Apollo 11 Was Maybe a Hoax - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/01/science/moon-landing-hoax-conspiracy-theory.html)

[4bee]

Someone correct me if I am mistaken.


As I recall when they were on the moon a Satellite was apparently orbiting said moon at the same time.

No-one owned up to it's ownership, not that I am aware, but it was thought at the time to be Russian, (well, the Media at the time implied that:unsure:) If it was, & the moon voyage was a lie isn't it reasonable to assume the Russkis would have spilt the beans (or Borscht?) as Capitalist lies?

I think so.

Then again, maybe the US sent that Satellite up as a Red Herring (no pun intended) as they & the Russkis were the only ones capable of doing that at that time.

[NavyDiver]

Water powered car. Psst brought out by oil company to stop them going broke (https://blog.gumtree.com.au/this-mysterious-aussie-invented-a-car-that-ran-on-water/) [biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

[ramblingboy42]

Someone correct me if I am mistaken.


As I recall when they were on the moon a Satellite was apparently orbiting said moon at the same time.

No-one owned up to it's ownership, not that I am aware, but it was thought at the time to be Russian, (well, the Media at the time implied that:unsure:) If it was, & the moon voyage was a lie isn't it reasonable to assume the Russkis would have spilt the beans (or Borscht?) as Capitalist lies?

I think so.

Then again, maybe the US sent that Satellite up as a Red Herring (no pun intended) as they & the Russkis were the only ones capable of doing that at that time.

the command module was circling the moon...how do you think they got back to earth?

[4bee]

They walked of course, rb. [smilebigeye] No, it was apparently reported that it was a "mysterious Satellite"

Like i said, "was it US Crapola?"


And just to help in miring the conspiracy mud Readers Digest may help.


12 crazy conspiracy theories that actually turned out to be true | Reader's Digest Australia (https://www.readersdigest.com.au/true-stories-lifestyle/12-crazy-conspiracy-theories-actually-turned-out-be-true)

[NavyDiver]

The Moral Panic Over Smartphones Takes on Satanic Overtones152382


The Moral Panic Over Smartphones Takes on Satanic Overtones | Office for Science and Society - McGill University (https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/technology-pseudoscience/moral-panic-over-smartphones-takes-satanic-overtones)

[4bee]

Oh, & we must not forget the one on Foxtel boxes & apparently not just the latest versions either. Seems they may have an eavesdropping mic. & camera in them.
Rupert will have a good idea of what some of you dirty buggers get up to.


I hope so, as they would know by now my criticism of their crap programme choices.

Just be more careful when you blokes have an after dinner "cuddle", ok?.:Rolling:

[DiscoMick]

It's okay, I already know my 'smart' TV is spying on me.

Is my TV spying on me? (https://www.teamknowhow.com/discover/discover/is-my-tv-spying-on-me)

[4bee]

You do, Mick? Then you are smarter than your TV.[smilebigeye]

[ramblingboy42]

Seems they may have an eavesdropping mic. & camera in them.

whereabouts? I looked very carefully at mine , can't see anything there

[DiscoMick]

You do, Mick? Then you are smarter than your TV.[smilebigeye]Damn right!

[DiscoMick]

Here's how to turn off the always on microphone on your Samsung smart TV.

If you have a smart TV, take a closer look at your privacy settings (https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/03/09/if-you-have-a-smart-tv-take-a-closer-look-at-your-privacy-settings.html)

[4bee]

Seems they may have an eavesdropping mic. & camera in them.

whereabouts? I looked very carefully at mine , can't see anything there


I'm buggered if I know, I didn't make that Cons. theory up.[smilebigeye]

I suppose though it is not beyond the realms of possibility that the Mic. is internal with the minute CCTV camera looking out through a vent panel.

Don't forget that there is a phone modem in there to communicate with FOXTEL HQ when you need to pay for any services & that apparently bangs info back to them every so often on a routine basis.


Then again, it may be all bollocks.[bigsmile1]

[DiscoMick]

How to check the Camera & Mic in SMART TV? | Samsung Support India (https://www.samsung.com/in/support/tv-audio-video/how-to-check-the-camera-and-mic-in-smart-tv/)

[NavyDiver]

152397

FBI issues warning to parents about toys spying on their kids (https://thenextweb.com/tech/2017/07/18/fbi-to-parents-think-twice-about-smart-toys/)

[350RRC]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't seem to find an emoticon that represents what is commonly known on the web as a 'troll'.

Is this possibly because of the amount of posts that 'trolls' generate in response to the 'angst' they cause and the advertising revenue that arises because of the resultant internet traffic?

DL

[pop058]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I can't seem to find an emoticon that represents what is commonly known on the web as a 'troll'.

Is this possibly because of the amount of posts that 'trolls' generate in response to the 'angst' they cause and the advertising revenue that arises because of the resultant internet traffic?

DL

156406

[350RRC]

156406

Thanks, I don't want to see where they supposedly live, I want to see an emoji / emoticon and I'm worried about the conspiracy aspects of the lack of them. [bigwhistle][biggrin][biggrin]

cheers, DL

[NavyDiver]

Punctures are fine. Picked up a screw in a tyre of my D3 for that sinking feeling. Smug mug me jacks up the wheel. Pulls up my puncher repair kit. Pulls the screw out, reams the hole. Fed the seal insert strip into the Insertion needle, uncapped the tube of rubber cement to find no rubber cement. It was unopened honest!

Drove to four service stations to get a little dribbble of rubber cement.

Yep nothing but chips at any servo now.[bigrolf]

[4bee]

That would have been a real bummer as the olde "Ah ****" it "factor came into play, Divs.

I doubt any servo staff would know what the sticky stuff is for these days & suspect some of the pimply yoofs would think it was Vaginal Lubrication.




Oooooohh 4bee that does sound a bit tacky.[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin] See what I did there?




Just sayin'.

[NavyDiver]

Russians are stepping it up
Coronavirus: Russian media hint at US conspiracy - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51413870?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.com/news/topics/cnvwkk7vp8mt/conspiracy-theories&link_location=live-reporting-story)


Also my son just mentioned the corona virus wont last long- Its made in China[biggrin]

[NavyDiver]

Does JK Rowling's breathing technique cure the coronavirus? No, it could help spread it[biggrin] "Please watch this doc from Queens Hospital explain how to relieve respiratory symptoms. For last 2 weeks I've had all symptoms of C19 (tho haven't been tested) & did this on doc husband's advice. I'm fully recovered & technique helped a lot" (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-08/coronavirus-jk-rowling-breathing-technique-debunked/12134128)

Lost her wand with this one

Actor Woody Harrelson and singer Keri Hilson have both shared content with fans suggesting a link between 5G and COVID-19.[bigwhistle]

The Ruby Princes is 5g central (https://www.latrobe.edu.au/news/articles/2020/opinion/5g-and-covid-19-conspiracy-theories) [biggrin] How people can come up with this crap is impressive[thumbsupbig]

Please excuse my opinion if you are one of the "Facebook group Stop5G Australia (https://www.facebook.com/groups/Stop5GAustralia/'ref=br_rs) (with more than 31,700 members) has various posts linking the disease’s spread to 5G technology." [bigwhistle]

[V8Ian]

It's hard to beat a good conspiracy theory James, unfortunately your links do not fall into the category described with my adjective. [tonguewink]

[Saitch]

This is up there with the best.

Over the last few months I have built a rather large pile of old trees, branches, shrubs etc. with which to do a burn off.
There I was, happily throwing more and more combustibles into the inferno when I found out that my dear wife had decided to prune our native Finger Lime and deposit the pruned branches in my stockpile. Also, to add more lacerations, there were several Pandanus palm fronds strategically positioned for me to grab.

Death by blood loss came to mind. No need to worry about syringe punctures between the toes, I tell you!

[NavyDiver]

Are you sure your wife is not looking for insurance payout[thumbsupbig] If you find oleander or similar in the pile next time run[biggrin]

[sashadidi]

I like this story ..
https://mobile.twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1245815485381447681
Since 5G is trending (in my head), an anecode that was told to me when I visited the operations centre of a large French mobile phone operator a few years ago.

I asked one of the engineers who worked on mast deployment if they got a lot of opposition.
"Oh yes", he said. "For example, the best place to site a mast in many villages is on the school roof. It actually minimises the amount of radiation hitting the school roof, because there's a blind spot underneath it, but everyone objects."
"So the mayor comes and says, 'Why not put the mast by the water tower, that's nice and high', so we do that."

"Then everyone who can see the water tower calls the mayor and says they have headaches and they're definitely going to get cancer".
"The mayor calls a town meeting and everyone shouts at us and tells us how bad their headaches are. And the mayor demands to know what we're going to do to make the headaches stop. And we say, well, we haven't switched the mast on yet".
It takes quite a while after erecting the mast for it to be operational.)

"And the meeting ends, people go back home, their headaches stop, and we switch the mast on, and everyone is happy except if they're in a bad reception area and they ask us to turn up the power
And then two years later we go to deploy a new generation, and the same people start getting headaches before we've installed it, and we go round it again".

So everyone has been killed about 7 times over by mobile phone masts already. That or the brain tumours that they were going to get from holding their phones too close to their heads for 10 minutes a day.

This was about 10 years ago. This guy had been through this 3 or 4 times in some places. Meanwhile, tens of thousands of people have killed or injured themselves or others by phoning or texting while driving, but for some reason the same people who think that telcos are out to give them cancer also think they can drive with one hand and half their brain.
BTW, telco executives and engineers live in areas with 5G reception like everyone else, just as pharma executives die from cancer even though their companies are apparently hiding a $5 cure. Maybe those execs and engineers are prepared to die for the shareholders.

[NavyDiver]

It's hard to beat a good conspiracy theory James, unfortunately your links do not fall into the category described with my adjective. [tonguewink]

This may work for you then Ian

Well, before she was banned from Twitter (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/23/tila-tequila-suspended-from-twitter-after-sharing-/) for posting a picture of herself and two other men giving a Nazi salute, Tequila was one of the most prominent Flat Earthers out there — she briefly enjoyed a moment in the spotlight when one very passionate rant went viral. Of course, she also believes that she’s a clone — or a robot — and yeah, there’s the whole Nazi thing as well (https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/tila-tequilas-descent-into-nazism-is-a-long-time-coming?utm_term=.fu702PpAP#.ogBxO9lG9), so maybe take her ideas with a grain of salt.

Just the name screams WFT Tila Tequila,
She gets better with "Her bisexual-themed dating show, A Shot at Love with Tila Tequila (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Shot_at_Love_with_Tila_Tequila) (2007), aired for two seasons and became MTV (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV)'s second highest-rated series premiere of that year."
Not sure if I can find the time to watch that show[smilebigeye]

Flat Earth: Celebrities Who Think the World Is Flat | PEOPLE.com (https://people.com/celebrity/flat-earth-celebrities-world-not-round/)

Tia Wikki is very entertaining. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tila_Tequila) Cybre Girl for playboy I also missed. She is not a drunk- alergies to Tequila Nick name.

I have an self induced allergy to the thought of Tequila which may be trivial. In LA on a warship in the 80s. Snuck down to Mexico with 4 mates. One ****ed brought a few hundred tourist trap tiny bottles of Tequila with worms in them. The US boarder guards would not let us in to the US with them. They allowed us to pull over and drink it all. [bigsad] I turned 18 a few days later and still felt seedy[biggrin]

[p38arover]

MSNBC raised the possibility that Trump will make money out the malaria drug they are trialling with COVID-19

MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski suspects 'financial tie' has Trump pushing anti-malaria drug (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/msnbcs-mika-brzezinski-suspects-financial-tie-has-trump-pushing-anti-malaria-drug)

[superquag]

I like this story ..
https://mobile.twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1245815485381447681
Since 5G is trending (in my head), an anecode that was told to me when I visited the operations centre of a large French mobile phone operator a few years ago.

I asked one of the engineers who worked on mast deployment if they got a lot of opposition.
"Oh yes", he said. "For example, the best place to site a mast in many villages is on the school roof. It actually minimises the amount of radiation hitting the school roof, because there's a blind spot underneath it, but everyone objects."
"So the mayor comes and says, 'Why not put the mast by the water tower, that's nice and high', so we do that."

"Then everyone who can see the water tower calls the mayor and says they have headaches and they're definitely going to get cancer".
"The mayor calls a town meeting and everyone shouts at us and tells us how bad their headaches are. And the mayor demands to know what we're going to do to make the headaches stop. And we say, well, we haven't switched the mast on yet".
It takes quite a while after erecting the mast for it to be operational.)

"And the meeting ends, people go back home, their headaches stop, and we switch the mast on, and everyone is happy except if they're in a bad reception area and they ask us to turn up the power
And then two years later we go to deploy a new generation, and the same people start getting headaches before we've installed it, and we go round it again".



Those of us with Very white, thinning (or any) hair will recall this was standard advice for Ham Radio Operators who wanted to erect a tower with antennas or especially a Yagi
- Do a letter drop to all the streets around, asking them to document times/types of 'Radio Interference'..... collect answers and do another informing them all issues have been passed on to the relevant authorities, along with the advice that you'll be STARTING to transmit in a week or so.....[bigwhistle]

[superquag]

There's a dearth of 'Conspiracy' Theories around COVID-19, so here' a start in attempting to rectify the situation...

COVID Italy update: dispelling the pandemic illusion << Jon Rappoport's Blog (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/09/covid-italy-update-dispelling-the-pandemic-illusion/)

As always, the most entertaining stuff is in the readers comments,... in this case, around half way down is where you need the popcorn.

For example:-

".....Protestant says:
April 9, 2020 at 6:16 pm
The weird thing is that ordinary people all over the USA have noticed often unmarked white vans busy installing huge 5G towers and wiring up schools & street lights during the coronahoax lockdown, and the vans are often protected by police vehicles. Others have noticed it here in the UK as well.

It seems that the lockdown is just a cover to allow them to install 5G everywhere. Wuhan was the epicentre of 5G, with more than 100,000 5G towers and installations in the city, switched on just before the coronahoax outbreak, as Jon Rappaport pointed out.

Here’s how veteran Stephen Luke explained it: “When they tune the 5G in to 60GHz it causes the rotation of the electrons around the oxygen molecule to spin. This inhibits the ability of haemoglobin in your blood to properly uptake these oxygen molecules, and this then leads to suffocation.”

Nouveau Druid says:
April 10, 2020 at 2:21 pm
I’ve been seeing vans, pickup trucks, and SUVs of all types mysteriously pulled onto the side of the roads, too. Until today I didn’t think to look up onto the utility pole for the telltale apparatus. There are also police with vehicles that are not apparently involved in accidents. Today in my rounds after work I will be looking for the towers and the new equipment. My question for you is: why do you think the powers are installing 5G when it kills? Wouldn’t there be other, quicker, sneakier, ways? I’m fairly new to this so bear with me...."

-------oOo---------


So, anyone noticed anything similar or odd, out there ? - Not that anyone here would dare violate the tiniest part of our 6 - month lockdown... [bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]

[rick130]

There's a dearth of 'Conspiracy' Theories around COVID-19, so here' a start in attempting to rectify the situation...

COVID Italy update: dispelling the pandemic illusion << Jon Rappoport's Blog (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/09/covid-italy-update-dispelling-the-pandemic-illusion/)

As always, the most entertaining stuff is in the readers comments,... in this case, around half way down is where you need the popcorn.

For example:-

".....Protestant says:
April 9, 2020 at 6:16 pm
The weird thing is that ordinary people all over the USA have noticed often unmarked white vans busy installing huge 5G towers and wiring up schools & street lights during the coronahoax lockdown, and the vans are often protected by police vehicles. Others have noticed it here in the UK as well.

It seems that the lockdown is just a cover to allow them to install 5G everywhere. Wuhan was the epicentre of 5G, with more than 100,000 5G towers and installations in the city, switched on just before the coronahoax outbreak, as Jon Rappaport pointed out.

Here’s how veteran Stephen Luke explained it: “When they tune the 5G in to 60GHz it causes the rotation of the electrons around the oxygen molecule to spin. This inhibits the ability of haemoglobin in your blood to properly uptake these oxygen molecules, and this then leads to suffocation.”

Nouveau Druid says:
April 10, 2020 at 2:21 pm
I’ve been seeing vans, pickup trucks, and SUVs of all types mysteriously pulled onto the side of the roads, too. Until today I didn’t think to look up onto the utility pole for the telltale apparatus. There are also police with vehicles that are not apparently involved in accidents. Today in my rounds after work I will be looking for the towers and the new equipment. My question for you is: why do you think the powers are installing 5G when it kills? Wouldn’t there be other, quicker, sneakier, ways? I’m fairly new to this so bear with me...."

-------oOo---------


So, anyone noticed anything similar or odd, out there ? - Not that anyone here would dare violate the tiniest part of our 6 - month lockdown... [bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]


OMG. [bighmmm]

As I posted on the Corona thread. [biggrin]

159534

[4bee]

My question for you is: why do you think the powers are installing 5G when it kills? Wouldn’t there be other, quicker, sneakier, ways? I’m fairly new to this so bear with me.


Yes Mate a .38 snuk up behind you[bigrolf].

[4bee]

That is Bull**** Rick. Will it really take 6 months to install 5G everywhere?[bigrolf]

[rick130]

That is Bull**** Rick. Will it really take 6 months to install 5G everywhere?[bigrolf]

Of course it will Des!

If any form of government is behind it it will take that and more!

And now we know why the NBN was (deliberately) ballsed-up! (read: sabotaged) [bighmmm][bigwhistle]



[bigrolf]


[edit] Oh man, I'm good at this conspiracy stuff! [bigrolf]

[NavyDiver]

"The theories have spread almost as fast as the new coronavirus: Chloroquine is a proven cure, children are immune and 5G caused the pandemic. From the seemingly plausible to the predictably untrue, fake news about COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, is flooding the internet as we scramble to make sense of a crisis that has wrought havoc around the world."

"
In the UK alone, nearly half of all adults have been exposed to false claims or misleading information online about the virus, according to research published last week by the country's media watchdog, Ofcom.
Some 35 percent have seen claims that drinking more water can help flush out the disease, for example, while around a quarter have seen advice suggesting the infection can be treated by gargling salt water - both of which have been rubbished by the World Health Organisation and contradict UK public health guidelines.

"

I still think that a large proportion of Americans still think the Moon landings are fake is COOL [bigrolf] A Successful failure
(https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/11/21217455/nasa-50th-anniversary-apollo-13)
NASA marking the 50th anniversary of ‘successful failure’ Apollo 13 mission (https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/11/21217455/nasa-50th-anniversary-apollo-13)

[4bee]

"The theories have spread almost as fast as the new coronavirus: Chloroquine is a proven cure, children are immune and 5G caused the pandemic. From the seemingly plausible to the predictably untrue, fake news about COVID-19, the disease caused by the virus, is flooding the internet as we scramble to make sense of a crisis that has wrought havoc around the world."

"
In the UK alone, nearly half of all adults have been exposed to false claims or misleading information online about the virus, according to research published last week by the country's media watchdog, Ofcom.
Some 35 percent have seen claims that drinking more water can help flush out the disease, for example, while around a quarter have seen advice suggesting the infection can be treated by gargling salt water - both of which have been rubbished by the World Health Organisation and contradict UK public health guidelines.

"

I still think that a large proportion of Americans still think the Moon landings are fake is COOL A Successful failure
(https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/11/21217455/nasa-50th-anniversary-apollo-13)
[B]NASA marking the 50th anniversary of ‘successful failure’ Apollo 13 mission (https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/11/21217455/nasa-50th-anniversary-apollo-13)




Can't trust the Chinese? Can't trust the W.H.O Who the bloody hell can we trust these days?

Well, I never have trusted the Chinese or the North Koreans but the WHO I believed could be above reproach but having second thoughts about that organisation as well now.

Unfortunately the W H O appear to have the same credibility as China.

Coronavirus update: Global cases pass 2 million, WHO backs wet markets, Donald Trump says he won't fire top expert Anthony Fauci - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-14/coronavirus-update-new-york-death-toll,-testing-shortage/12145550)


Of course they landed on the Moon, well maybe not Tom Hanks, but others [smilebigeye]. Do you not think the Russians (the only other nation that could emulate this feat at the time) would be backward in coming forward if they found evidence that a Moon Landing was not actually made?

Yeah Roight!


I recall there were reports at the time that an unidentified Satellite was orbiting the Blue Cheese Ball at the time of said landing.


I believe they did land, anyone wish to give me 100% proof that they didn't?[bighmmm]

[NavyDiver]

Can't trust the Chinese? Can't trust the W.H.O Who the bloody hell can we trust these days?

Well, I never have trusted the Chinese or the North Koreans but the WHO I believed could be above reproach but having second thoughts about that organisation as well now.

Unfortunately the W H O appear to have the same credibility as China.

Coronavirus update: Global cases pass 2 million, WHO backs wet markets, Donald Trump says he won't fire top expert Anthony Fauci - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04-14/coronavirus-update-new-york-death-toll,-testing-shortage/12145550)


Of course they landed on the Moon, well maybe not Tom Hanks, but others [smilebigeye]. Do you not think the Russians (the only other nation that could emulate this feat at the time) would be backward in coming forward if they found evidence that a Moon Landing was not actually made?

Yeah Roight!


I recall there were reports at the time that an unidentified Satellite was orbiting the Blue Cheese Ball at the time of said landing.


I believe they did land, anyone wish to give me 100% proof that they didn't?[bighmmm]

Tom Hanks was shown "not" landing on the moon mate :) Perhaps it was Major Tom who landed :)

[4bee]

Tom Hanks was shown "not" landing on the moon mate :) Perhaps it was Major Tom who landed :)


That is wot I said diddle I?.
well maybe not Tom Hanks,


But it was a close run thing 'cos they went around the Moon to get the trajectory back to Earth. If the moon wasn't there they'd have been buggered 'cos all there would have been was another Black Hole where it had been & some cheese scrapings. Any fool can see that Divs. I did.[bigrolf]

[NavyDiver]

TV regulator Ofcom has said it is assessing comments made by presenter Eamonn Holmes about 5G technology and coronavirus "as a priority".
The watchdog has received 419 complaints about remarks he made on ITV's This Morning on Monday.
He cast doubt on media reports refuting the myth that 5G causes the virus "when they don't know it's not true".[bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf][bigrolf]

Coronavirus: Ofcom assesses Eamonn Holmes 5G comments after complaints - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52279109)

[jonesfam]

I'm not being dumb (maybe I am) but,
Why do people think Corona Virus is caused by 5G?
Even using my wildest Sci-Fi imagination I just can't make the link?
Jonesfam

[Eevo]

I'm not being dumb (maybe I am) but,
Why do people think Corona Virus is caused by 5G?
Even using my wildest Sci-Fi imagination I just can't make the link?
Jonesfam

there is no virus
5g is mind control or the real cause of the sickness

[JDNSW]

Because elementary science is not taught either in our schools nor, it seems, most of the others around the world! (Might be on the curriculum, but it is not taught!)

[Slunnie]

Because elementary science is not taught either in our schools nor, it seems, most of the others around the world! (Might be on the curriculum, but it is not taught!)

It's amazing how during 12 years of science lessons not a single thing gets taught. They must just sit around during those periods and sing Kumbaya. See, now there is a conspiracy amongst Science teachers all over the world! Students, teachers, universitys, governing organisations and governments are all in on this, but nobody is talking..... well, Julian Assange was going to talk, but look what happened there! :bat:

[NavyDiver]

It's amazing how during 12 years of science lessons not a single thing gets taught. They must just sit around during those periods and sing Kumbaya. See, now there is a conspiracy amongst Science teachers all over the world! Students, teachers, universitys, governing organisations and governments are all in on this, but nobody is talking..... well, Julian Assange was going to talk, but look what happened there! :bat:

Two babies?

"Project Aura was Newport’s first job for the federal government. Things moved quickly and smoothly, employees and federal officials said in interviews.

Every three months, officials with the biomedical research agency would visit Newport’s headquarters. Mr. Crawford submitted monthly reports detailing the company’s spending and progress.

The federal officials “would check everything,” he said. “If we said we were buying equipment, they would want to know what it was used for. There were scheduled visits, scheduled requirements and deliverables each month.”

In 2011, Newport shipped three working prototypes from the company’s California plant to Washington for federal officials to review.

Dr. Frieden, who ran the C.D.C. at the time, got a demonstration in a small conference room attached to his office. “I got all excited,” he said. “It was a multiyear effort that had resulted in something that was going to be really useful.”
In April 2012, a senior Health and Human Services official testified before Congress that the program was “on schedule to file for market approval in September 2013.” After that, the machines would go into production.

Then everything changed.

The medical device industry was undergoing rapid consolidation, with one company after another merging with or acquiring other makers. Manufacturers wanted to pitch themselves as one-stop shops for hospitals, which were getting bigger, and that meant offering a broader suite of products. In May 2012, Covidien, a large medical device manufacturer, agreed to buy (https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120501006724/en/Covidien-Completes-Acquisition-Newport-Medical-Instruments) Newport for just over $100 million.


"

[4bee]

I'm not being dumb (maybe I am) but,
Why do people think Corona Virus is caused by 5G?
Even using my wildest Sci-Fi imagination I just can't make the link?
Jonesfam

Probably summat wrong with one of your circuit Boards then, Jonesy.[biggrin]

[JDNSW]

It's amazing how during 12 years of science lessons not a single thing gets taught. They must just sit around during those periods and sing Kumbaya. See, now there is a conspiracy amongst Science teachers all over the world! Students, teachers, universitys, governing organisations and governments are all in on this, but nobody is talking..... well, Julian Assange was going to talk, but look what happened there! :bat:

Maybe I should have said "is not learned". I cannot conceive how anyone with even a smattering of science could entertain most of these conspiracy theories. I wasn't trying to belittle science teachers - but the issue seems to be that despite the science that is taught at most schools, and has been for probably a hundred years, there is still a large proportion of the adult population who regularly demonstrate that they have no understanding of it.

I'll dismount my hobbyhorse now!

[Saitch]

You're quite right, John. I mean, c'mon! If the earth was flat, why would there be a need for tall 5G towers? Absolute stupidity!

[Ancient Mariner]

You're quite right, John. I mean, c'mon! If the earth was flat, why would there be a need for tall 5G towers? Absolute stupidity!Because the radio waves fall to earth just like your 308 over distance ($20. for 20)[biggrin]

[Fifth Columnist]

Believe me, there'll be Triffids walking down your street before the year is out.

[Slunnie]

Maybe I should have said "is not learned". I cannot conceive how anyone with even a smattering of science could entertain most of these conspiracy theories. I wasn't trying to belittle science teachers - but the issue seems to be that despite the science that is taught at most schools, and has been for probably a hundred years, there is still a large proportion of the adult population who regularly demonstrate that they have no understanding of it.

I'll dismount my hobbyhorse now!

There is a pretty wide academic range in the population. People some people make connections better than others and we all forget. I bet most don't recognise the maths used with the CoronaVirus which they also learnt at school.

[jonesfam]

there is no virus
5g is mind control or the real cause of the sickness

So 5g won't fry your brains (which if it is dangerous I would have thought would be the thing) but it will give you a runny nose & a cough?
Makes sense!

[Saitch]

I don't think that anyone driving a Land Rover would experience 5G.

[Gav 110]

I don't think that anyone driving a Land Rover would experience 5G.

Maybe driving off a cliff???
Or the new Defender 🤪

[V8Ian]

Maybe driving off a cliff???
Or the new Defender 🤪
The new Defender is purely hypothetical at this stage. [biggrin]
Did you have a cliff in mind? I can't think of a big enough one. :no2:

[superquag]

So 5g won't fry your brains (which if it is dangerous I would have thought would be the thing) but it will give you a runny nose & a cough?
Makes sense!

No, 5G won't fry your brains... too many targe.... er, people lack them. Rather, it damages the heme in your red blood cells, reducing their capacity to carry oxygen. Net result is.... hypoxia, and from there it's downhill all the way. Hydrixyquinone (Plaquenil) goes a way to rectify the damage, as well as 'attracting' zinc into cells..and zinc disrupts viral repeoducing.
But most likelely , Plaquenil like many meds is made in ....... China.
Ooops

[JDNSW]

No, 5G won't fry your brains... too many targe.... er, people lack them. Rather, it damages the heme in your red blood cells, reducing their capacity to carry oxygen. Net result is.... hypoxia, and from there it's downhill all the way. Hydrixyquinone (Plaquenil) goes a way to rectify the damage, as well as 'attracting' zinc into cells..and zinc disrupts viral repeoducing.
But most likelely , Plaquenil like many meds is made in ....... China.
Ooops

And, as pointed out by Norman Swan yesterday, hydroxyquinone, as well as potentially counteracting some of the effects of the virus, its deleterious effects on the heart (long known) amplify the virus' bad effects on the heart.

While the drug is made in China, and probably India, it is an old drug, its manufacturing techniques are well known, and I understand its patents have expired, so if it proves to be useful, it could be very rapidly put into production almost anywhere.

[Gav 110]

The new Defender is purely hypothetical at this stage. [biggrin]
Did you have a cliff in mind? I can't think of a big enough one. :no2:

Can’t think of any cliffs high enough to drive off over here
Maybe the super pit in Kalgoorlie is a good place to start

[vnx205]

Someone commented recently that he felt sorry for all the conspiracy theorists.

They have had no rest at all for the last couple of months.

[DiscoMick]

I wonder if the anti-vaxers are still spreading their conspiracy theories.

[4bee]

Someone commented recently that he felt sorry for all the conspiracy theorists.

They have had no rest at all for the last couple of months.


Is that a fact or a Conspiracy theory?[bigrolf]


Speaking of conspiracy theories try this one for size. Shirley not a way to have China involved in our Airline Industry & an excellent Airline. Or is it & who wants it? Were they looking at a spin off with this C-19?

Coronavirus Australia: Virgin Australia may be sold to private firms (https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/health-safety/coronavirus-australia-virgin-australia-may-be-sold-to-private-firms/news-story/cf08d55b82a40617e5cfd42517f351cc)

[vnx205]

I wonder if the anti-vaxers are still spreading their conspiracy theories.

They certainly are.

They haven't been this active since 79 children died from measles in Samoa.

[JDNSW]

I wonder if the anti-vaxers are still spreading their conspiracy theories.

How the anti-vaccine community is responding to COVID-19 | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/how-the-anti-vaccine-community-is-responding-to-covid-19/)

[Slunnie]

They certainly are.

They haven't been this active since 79 children died from measles in Samoa.

Interestingly, one of the few places that closed their boarders before COVID-19 got there are are still COVID-19 free.

[superquag]

How the anti-vaccine community is responding to COVID-19 | Ars Technica (https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/04/how-the-anti-vaccine-community-is-responding-to-covid-19/)

"...Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
I wonder if the anti-vaxers are still spreading their conspiracy theories...."

Nah, Bill Gates and his foundation(s) are behaving in a way that leaves them wide open to all sorts of accusations, rational or not. , - like 'Certificates' of Immunity, (We've had attempts here in Oz for nation-wide "Identity Cards" - in addition to our passports, photo drivers licences etc. ) explained here:-
Immunity certificates: a load of nonsense and a covert op << Jon Rappoport's Blog (https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/04/15/immunity-certificates-a-load-of-nonsense-and-a-covert-op/)

Not sorry, I don't have any trust in Mr & Mrs Bill Gates, or his 'Vaccination Foundation' - you know, the one the Indians kicked out of their country over damage being caused...

Nor should we ever think that leopards change their spots during a PANdemic. The US has the PREP Act, which basically lets a section of industry get away with almost anything during an Official Crisis. Makes sobering reading, especially the comment that sheeeple would insist on getting vaccinated, whether tested or safe or not...
Dr. Fauci and COVID-19 Priorities: Therapeutics Now or Vaccines Later? • Children's Health Defense (https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/dr-fauci-and-covid-19-priorities-therapeutics-now-or-vaccines-later/)

[superquag]

But the best Conspiracy Theories don't exactly name-Names, "they" works in default.

So, Try this link :-
Systems Biologist Speaks Out About COVID-19 Response (https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/04/18/coronavirus-economic-impact.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20200418Z2&et_cid=DM508242&et_rid=853173838)

In Germany, today, a person can be committed for Psych Evaluation - forcibly - and for as long as required, on ONE signature (Doctor) Normally, a Judge also is required but that's apparantly been suspended during the COVID-19 CRISIS.

But it gets better, this about a Medical - Lawyer who made a contradictory statement about the legality of their shutdown...
At the 29 minute mark. YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch'time_continue=361&v=C3ldtVWKlQI&feature=emb_logo)

Food for thought....

[vnx205]

Not sorry, I don't have any trust in Mr & Mrs Bill Gates, or his 'Vaccination Foundation' - you know, the one the Indians kicked out of their country over damage being caused...


Your concerns are not supported by the facts.

The claim that is fuelling your fears is just plain wrong.

Read a few reputable sites like these.

Bill and Melinda Gates’ Polio Efforts Led to 47,500 Kids Being Paralyzed-Fiction! - Truth or Fiction? (https://www.truthorfiction.com/bill-and-melinda-gates-polio-efforts-paralyzed-47500-kids/)

Was the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation Kicked Out of India? (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/gates-org-kicked-out-of-india/)

Why India snapping off vaccination ties with Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation puts us all at risk - Health News - Issue Date: Mar 6, 2017 (https://www.indiatoday.in/magazine/health/story/20170306-bill-gates-foundation-vaccines-for-poor-india-health-985853-2017-02-27)

[superquag]

More fuel for the fire...
- Not that any Western government would stoop so low, or a free-market business play such dirty trick$...

Pro-Vaccine Internet Trolls May Be Trained Government Agents - LewRockwell (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/10/no_author/internet-trolls-may-be-trained-government-agents-according-to-leaked-document/)

At a stretch, Mr Rockwell may turn out to be a government- troll, outing himself in order to discredit, - himself and thus sow even more confusion ? . --- As transparent as that SPY vs SPY cartoon in MAD Magazine !.

If you remember that, then indeed you are... OLD [biggrin]

Never mind the rabid Mr Rockwell, it would appear the prestigious Stanford University (USA) and slipped a few cogs and gone down the gurgler of 'Conspiracy'

A Full Interview With Stanford’s Dr. John Ioannidis About COVID-19 “Hysteria” – Collective Evolution (https://www.collective-evolution.com/2020/04/20/a-full-interview-with-stanfords-dr-john-ioannidis-about-covid-19-hysteria/)

[Ancient Mariner]

More fuel for the fire...
- Not that any Western government would stoop so low, or a free-market business play such dirty trick$...

Pro-Vaccine Internet Trolls May Be Trained Government Agents - LewRockwell (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/10/no_author/internet-trolls-may-be-trained-government-agents-according-to-leaked-document/)

At a stretch, Mr Rockwell may turn out to be a government- troll, outing himself in order to discredit, - himself and thus sow even more confusion ? . --- As transparent as that SPY vs SPY cartoon in MAD Magazine !.

If you remember that, then indeed you are... OLD [biggrin] White was good black was the bad if I remember correctly would not go well these days[wink11]



AM

[superquag]

White was good black was the bad if I remember correctly would not go well these days[wink11]



AM

Correct.
But worse still, I vaguely recall a chequered (grey?) third one... Nope, won't dare define his/her/it's heritage or character... too many traps ! [bigsad][biggrin][bigwhistle]

[speleomike]

Hi

Read a bit more about the author here. I thought the name rang a bell. It's the same one that claims he "invented" email :-)

Shiva Ayyadurai - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai)


But the best Conspiracy Theories don't exactly name-Names, "they" works in default.
So, Try this link :- Systems Biologist Speaks Out About COVID-19 Response

.... rubbish deleted so we don't contribute to any links .....

Food for thought....

It's not food for thought, it's toilet paper for the other end :-)
Nice that some other people here have pointed out some good sites for reputable information.
Mike

[Saitch]

Hi

Read a bit more about the author here. I thought the name rang a bell. It's the same one that claims he "invented" email :-)

Shiva Ayyadurai - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_Ayyadurai)



It's not food for thought, it's toilet paper for the other end :-)
Nice that some other people here have pointed out some good sites for reputable information.
Mike

A 'C' theory: He's involved in Indian Cricket!

[superquag]

Have you 'Fact-Checked' that ? [bigsad]

Is this a reputable Fact Checking site ? Seems they're talking about a Prophet not a Head of Department - Public Servant.
Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump's Presidency - in 2017? - Truth or Fiction? (https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-dr-fauci-predict-a-serious-pandemic-during-trumps-presidency-in-2017/)

[vnx205]

Have you 'Fact-Checked' that ? [bigsad]

Is this a reputable Fact Checking site ? Seems they're talking about a Prophet not a Head of Department - Public Servant.
Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump's Presidency - in 2017? - Truth or Fiction? (https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-dr-fauci-predict-a-serious-pandemic-during-trumps-presidency-in-2017/)

It seems to me that they are talking about someone who understood what had happened with previous epidemics and who wanted to highlight the cuts being made to the organisations that research such things and who wanted to warn about the potential result.

[NavyDiver]

A gent or gents set fire to a mobile phone tower (S) . 5G covid conspiracy apparently [biggrin] I did post a even more silly one but it had to be in Current affairs due to the person involved.
It is a wacky world. Happily being quietly respectful in the Driveway at dawn in the morning.

Mast fire probe amid 5G coronavirus claims - BBC News (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-52164358)


160082

[4bee]

I don't need ANZAC day to remind me of Australia's losses & skirmishes in all wars we were involved in.

I have a 13 Sqdn Air crew photo on my wall where I sit, of my Late Uncle John of 13 Sqdn Hudsons shot down by a Zero Fighter a couple of days after Japan entered the war, over the Celebes Sea, North of Australia. The plane [A16-67] went down on fire & his report back to base of this was the last that was heard from the AC. It was a bad day for 13 Sqdn with a number of Hudsons being shot down. This incident was included in the RAAF Official History & he gets a special Mention.

He was 21 years old. He had been in Adelaide's 27th Scottish Regiment but transferred to the RAAF. He was a Wireless Air Gunner on the Hudson



Alongside of his photo, I have one of my late Dad, Australian Army WO2 who never saw active service as he was apparently too valuable to send overseas him being a Motor Vehicle Instructor [Mechanical & Driving] He went North to Cairns & Townsville & elsewhere.

He was in the very early Citizen Military Forces prior to WW2.


I also remember those Uncles that served overseas & islands north of Australia (New Guinea etc ) in Egypt with the RAAF & Army

I also remember my late Father in Law [MBE WO1] who was at Dunkirk & then with the return to Europe on D.Day with REME. Prior to WW2 he was involved with setting up the big guns at various Forts in Singapore. (I used to take the mick out of him for facing those guns the wrong way [smilebigeye]). He had joined the Royal Artillery as a Boy Soldier when an early teenager & his Father was also in the RA.

Post War he was attached to the Kings Troop, Royal Horse Artillery at St Johns Wood where the 6 Pdr guns were kept for the Royal Salutes in Hyde Park. London. 'er indoors still has his Medal Bar complete with the MBE. Have been to see 'The Ride' in Hyde Park twice as guests of the Troop for HM the Q's Birthday which is a fantastic display of Horse Teams with riders galloping on with Limbers & Guns, then the Dismount, the Royal Salute with guns, the Remount & gallop, back to Barracks. Well, maybe not all the way & today they are based at Woolwich [Arsenal] which was the Royal Artillery Barracks & St Johns Wood has been sold for housing.[smilebigeye] A quaint note. The Hats pictured on their website can also used as buckets for watering their horses & for loose feed. Salutes can be anywhere between 21 Guns to 62 guns fired depending on the occasion.

The King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery | The British Army (https://www.army.mod.uk/who-we-are/corps-regiments-and-units/royal-artillery/the-kings-troop-royal-horse-artillery/)


Personally I have other direct relatives who joined up with the Australian Army in 1915/16 Six brothers went to France & four were killed two at Polygon Wood & elsewhere, the other two returned to South Australia to assist with running the family Market gardening/orchard business at Lenswood. Their names are on a monument there which was renovated 2 years ago as it had all got a bit overgrown & desolate.

So, I have a lot to think about tomorrow & I won't be standing at the driveway entrance with a candle or lamp 300m away but will be remembering them as I normally do each year. Not sure how I think about that, whether it is more bollocks creeping in to Australian Remembrance Services or not, or simply because of theCovid-19 situation. But I will be thinking about John, Fred. Gerry & other relations as well as the Lenswood Eglinton Brothers & the debt Australia owes them.

[ramblingboy42]

I knew a family at Lenswood who had apple orchards in the 70's.

Also knew a barman at the pub.

[4bee]

Lenswood today is still an important quality Apple & Pear growing district & line of sight from here is aprox.. 7km A quick sneeze you'd miss the township especially if you have C-19. Pub would probably have been at Woodside or Lobethal I have never noticed a pub at Lenswood.

Do you remember their name? I did a lot of Cold Store installations in that general area.

[ramblingboy42]

yes they were Collins.

and yes the pub was Woodside the barman was Jeff LLoyd

[DiscoMick]

Have you 'Fact-Checked' that ? [bigsad]

Is this a reputable Fact Checking site ? Seems they're talking about a Prophet not a Head of Department - Public Servant.
Did Dr. Fauci Predict a Serious Pandemic During Trump's Presidency - in 2017? - Truth or Fiction? (https://www.truthorfiction.com/did-dr-fauci-predict-a-serious-pandemic-during-trumps-presidency-in-2017/)The New York Times did a very long story on all the warnings which were given and ignored. I have posted the link in the Trump thread in Current Affairs, as it is clearly political, if you want to read it. Numerous warnings were given and not acted on until after the virus had already spread widely in the USA.

[4bee]

yes they were Collins.

and yes the pub was Woodside the barman was Jeff LLoyd

Ron Collins? Dennis Collins? Ron ran a big semi truck a bit like V8I's Contracted for an Arc Welding mob GMF I think, one of those anyway. Dennis was Ron's son & while he did Orchard work was a bit of a liability to Ron as I recall. Could be a coincidence. But theirs was the first Cold Store I installed there, crap bore water for water cooled condenser notwithstanding. What fool decided that was good idea in that area, water was chockas with Lime.

Dear Ron died some years ago A lovely kind bloke, & his missus took off with a Truckie.


There were probably other Collins but you know how these small towns are.

[ramblingboy42]

It was Dennis. I should have remembered his name being same as mine.

I must have seen the cold room when it was brand new. I couldn't get over how crisp and crunchy an apple was fresh off the tree. Jonathons then.

Yes, Dennis was a revhead. He raced Formula Vees then and hillclimbed.....was it called Collinsgrove Hill Climb?

He had a Falcon GT Utility , and he removed the revlimiter on it , and saw the speedo needle pointing to mph, I guess something over 150mph , never really know.

[4bee]

BINGO ! [smilebigeye]


I couldn't get over how crisp and crunchy an apple was fresh off the tree. Jonathons then.

They would have watered the orchard in those days so the fruit would have entered the room with moist interiors.
The aim of course was to retain that moisture.



The crunchy bit may have also been due to the Super Heat settings of the TEVs to maintain the room humidity & how well the Service bloke [me] [bigsmile1] had set them.:TakeABow:
Humidity was checked by a run of the mill Sling Psychrometer.

Bacharach 0012-7043 Sling Psychrometer, Celsius Scale (https://www.globaltestsupply.com/product/bacharach-0012-7043-sling-psychrometer?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI1PT_7qKD6QIV1w0rCh1 YQg2uEAQYAiABEgK8JvD_BwE)

Any moisture that was extracted from the fruit was simply drained back onto the floor & very little was allowed to escape from there. That was picked up & recirculated by the Forced Ventilation effect of the Cooler fans. The construction of the room included an external Vapour seal which helped as well & because it was a Low Temperature Room, that stopped condensation.


Maybe some rooms used a Humidifier to keep the moisture level up. I think we aimed for about 90% RH with a room temp about 0c by just using the SH method


Have not kept in touch with today's Fruit Storage construction & storage methods but Humidity was paramount to stop fruit shrinkage /weight loss etc but I don't think it would have changed all that much, just a bit more scientific, especially with CA [Controlled Atmosphere] rooms.

I always enjoyed entering a Fruit Store because of the odour. A lovely pong.

One of the best things about servicing these rooms was the owner usually saying "Grab a feed of Apples or Pears before you go" & he would chuck you a carton & start filling it.


Only had one cheapskate & that was down the road from Collins.[bigrolf]

Yes Collingrove, My Son in Law raced there as well. Not sure but I have a feeling it is closed now. Edited 25/04 Seems is still open or that is what Wiki tells me.

Ah Happy Days.[smilebigeye]

[sashadidi]

Revealed: 'former Vodafone executive' in 5G conspiracy video is UK pastor

Jonathon James is previously unidentified individual who reached millions with false claims about Covid-19

see here: Revealed: 'former Vodafone executive' in 5G conspiracy video is UK pastor | World news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/24/vodafone-exec-5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-video-revealed-pastor-luton-jonathon-james)

[DeeJay]

On the topic of conspiracy theories.


US coronavirus protests: 1500 protesters crowd Wisconsin capital (https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/coronavirus-crowd-of-1500-storms-capital-in-latest-us-protest/news-story/f4d279f3d294214c6b69cf81909aa903)

Sadly the United States- the US is not very united..

[dirvine]

Heard on radio today that the stats of Covid deaths is exagerated. Dr in England stated that if a person has the Virus and dies then that has been recorded as the reason for death. Cited that if a person is diagnosed with the Virus and then jumps off a cliff and kills themselves its recorded as a Virus death not death my misadventure or suicide. Also cited that a person who had terminal cancer also had the virus and died. Which condition caused the death? Whilst I dont know if that is true or not, I do find that old people ie 80+ who have been recorded as a Virus casualty, could well have had underlying symptoms of other medical issues, and when this virus is stacked on top its just the final straw and they slip over to the other side. Would they have died of something else? Who knows.

[JDNSW]

Heard on radio today that the stats of Covid deaths is exagerated. Dr in England stated that if a person has the Virus and dies then that has been recorded as the reason for death. Cited that if a person is diagnosed with the Virus and then jumps off a cliff and kills themselves its recorded as a Virus death not death my misadventure or suicide. Also cited that a person who had terminal cancer also had the virus and died. Which condition caused the death? Whilst I dont know if that is true or not, I do find that old people ie 80+ who have been recorded as a Virus casualty, could well have had underlying symptoms of other medical issues, and when this virus is stacked on top its just the final straw and they slip over to the other side. Would they have died of something else? Who knows.

While that is certinly a contributor to the number of recorded deaths to some extent, there are some much larger omissions from the counts - in most of countries, deaths are not counted as covid-19 unless there is a test, and in many places deaths at home or in nursing homes or in the street are unlikely to have been tested before death and also unlikely to have a test after death, as tests are still in short supply in most places. These numbers will be vastly greater than the ones who died "with but not from" covid-19.

In addition, in the absence of testing capability, many hospital deaths have been classified as "pneumonia", or sometimes "non-flu pneumonia" (because flu tests are readily available in most countries) which, because the numbers of these have increased greatly in the last three months in many places, are likely to be covid-19.

In the UK in particular, so far the only listed deaths are those in hospital; the unusually high numbers of deaths in nursing homes have not been counted, although it is almost certain the majority of these are covid-19.

[vnx205]

Heard on radio today that the stats of Covid deaths is exagerated.
... ... ..
.

The opposite is more likely to be true.

A search of "covid deaths exaggerated" brought up site like Fox News and right wing commentators suggesting exaggeration and more reputable sites saying things like,“The true facts are that COVID-19 deaths will likely be underreported on death certificates and not over-reported,” Aiken said. “This will be especially true as deaths that occur in homes, and not the hospital, mount. Not all jurisdictions are able to test home deaths with typical symptoms for COVID-19.”
Social Media Posts Make Baseless Claim on COVID-19 Death Toll - FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/social-media-posts-make-baseless-claim-on-covid-19-death-toll/)

Plenty of other sites say the same sort of thing.

[DiscoMick]

Yep, 20,000 nursing homes in UK where deaths are not recorded as C-19 unless the person was tested and returned positive. Similar problem in the USA, particularly NY.
True death toll understated.

[dirvine]

The comment was what did kill people. Just the virus or something else, or a combination of everything. Unless autopsy done, how do they really know?

[superquag]

NOT doing thorough autopsies...and telling the Whole Truth about the findings... effectively muddies statistic waters... enabling govt and other vested interests to spin the numbers how they want.
Then there are other details, such as in the UK, it's official NHS policy to get the 'Oldies' OUT of hospital as quick as possible and back to the Nursing homes, or as one digruntled Doctor (GP) described, "COVID-19 incubators"
Nursing Home deaths are not always defined as COV - caused. Nor (always) are deaths at private residences.

Yet in the US, in some places, directives have gone out to record COV-19 as C.o.D if there's a reasonable suspicion... NO proper test needed. [bigwhistle]

[4bee]

The opposite is more likely to be true.

A search of "covid deaths exaggerated" brought up site like Fox News and right wing commentators suggesting exaggeration and more reputable sites saying things like,“The true facts are that COVID-19 deaths will likely be underreported on death certificates and not over-reported,” Aiken said. “This will be especially true as deaths that occur in homes, and not the hospital, mount. Not all jurisdictions are able to test home deaths with typical symptoms for COVID-19.”
Social Media Posts Make Baseless Claim on COVID-19 Death Toll - FactCheck.org (https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/social-media-posts-make-baseless-claim-on-covid-19-death-toll/)

Plenty of other sites say the same sort of thing.


The saying is...."There is no smoke without fire" so someone is cooking the books for their own end.

[windsock]

All this discussion around numbers... reminds me of a t-shirt I have.

There are two kinds of people in this world.
1. Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

[JDNSW]

The saying is...."There is no smoke without fire" so someone is cooking the books for their own end.

Also see Hanlon's Razor (Hanlon's razor - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor))

[superquag]

Also see Hanlon's Razor (Hanlon's razor - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor))

Hanlon's Razor, on par with 'Nothing is fool-proof, for fools can be incredibly ingenious'


In the 'Conspiracy Universe', COVID-19 is generaly regarded as most likely a man-made "fiddle", the only debate being 'deliberate release' or (stupid....) accident.
Historical evidence at other high level bio labs worldwide, would suggest the latter...

[JDNSW]

Hanlon's Razor, on par with 'Nothing is fool-proof, for fools can be incredibly ingenious'


In the 'Conspiracy Universe', COVID-19 is generaly regarded as most likely a man-made "fiddle", the only debate being 'deliberate release' or (stupid....) accident.
Historical evidence at other high level bio labs worldwide, would suggest the latter...

But in the real world of molecular biology, the structure of the virus is regarded as pointing to a natural origin, not an engineered one. Which does not necessarily mean that it is not an escapee from a laboratory investigating dangerous zoonotic viruses that could lead to the next pandemic.

But neither does it mean that just because there is such a laboratory in Wuhan that it must be an escapee from there. After all, the laboratory is there because the danger of this sort of development exists.

[DiscoMick]

Its a SARS and there are lots of Coronaviruses out there, but its rare for them to jump to humans.
I read that the Covid - 19 just invades healthy cells and takes over their replication process.

[Eevo]

I read that the Covid - 19 just invades healthy cells and takes over their replication process.


all viruses do this.

[ramblingboy42]

You like conspiracy theory.

You could do better than this.
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This in no way is my beliefs , in fact I drew this from a skeptic website I enjoy.

[JDNSW]

I think unbelievable is the right word!

[4bee]

Not sure about the Kennedy statement though.

All was very hush hush until recently( last few months) when the story of an ex- NSW or Vic Cop explained his theory about Kennedy's death. Cop's name was Mc Laren.


It did sound very plausible & it had been hidden that their own Secret Service Shooter was "the Marksman from the Book Depository "the culprit & was an accidental shot from the SS car behind with a newly acquired (by them) assault weapon.

He claims the SS Detail had been on the booze overnight, apparently proven.

The whole thing was a Cockup & a Coverup to protect the Service.


I seem to recall it was going to be on one of the TV Channels so some of you may have seen it, but it was before the Covid business hit the streets so may have been overlooked


Here tis. BUGGER! Needs a subscription unless there is another way around that.

NoCookies | The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/australian-ex-cop-colin-mclaren-has-new-john-f-kennedy-death-theory/news-story/1a8664ccd972300594a964eeb4a2e573)

[Tote]

Not sure about the Kennedy statement though.

All was very hush hush until recently( last few months) when the story of an ex- NSW or Vic Cop explained his theory about Kennedy's death. Cop's name was Mc Laren.


It did sound very plausible & it had been hidden that their own Secret Service Shooter was "the Marksman from the Book Depository "the culprit & was an accidental shot from the SS car behind with a newly acquired (by them) assault weapon.

He claims the SS Detail had been on the booze overnight, apparently proven.

The whole thing was a Cockup & a Coverup to protect the Service.


I seem to recall it was going to be on one of the TV Channels so some of you may have seen it, but it was before the Covid business hit the streets so may have been overlooked


Here tis. BUGGER! Needs a subscription unless there is another way around that.

NoCookies | The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/australian-ex-cop-colin-mclaren-has-new-john-f-kennedy-death-theory/news-story/1a8664ccd972300594a964eeb4a2e573)

I had read that theory a few years ago as well and it goes a long way towards explaining Kennedy's death. Incompetence will almost always trump malice as the cause of an incident. I've been to Dallas and checked the area out but a mate of mine who was there for work (and is much more enthusiastic than me) reckons that there is no way that the published account of the incident makes sense.

Regards,
Tote

[4bee]

Try again.


Ad Blocker was knocking it out. Disable AB.


NoCookies | The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/australian-ex-cop-colin-mclaren-has-new-john-f-kennedy-death-theory/news-story/1a8664ccd972300594a964eeb4a2e573)

[Tombie]

Try again.


Ad Blocker was knocking it out. Disable AB.


NoCookies | The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/australian-ex-cop-colin-mclaren-has-new-john-f-kennedy-death-theory/news-story/1a8664ccd972300594a964eeb4a2e573)

Nope it’s behind a paywall.

[Tote]

Here's a link that goes a fair way toward disproving the secret service accidental assassin theory.

Did a Secret Service Agent Kill JFK by Accident? (http://22november1963.org.uk/did-a-secret-service-agent-kill-jfk-by-accident)

Regards,
Tote

[Eevo]

Here's a link that goes a fair way toward disproving the secret service accidental assassin theory.

Did a Secret Service Agent Kill JFK by Accident? (http://22november1963.org.uk/did-a-secret-service-agent-kill-jfk-by-accident)

Regards,
Tote


i prefer this theory
video on youtube i think

Australian detective uncovers JFK clues | SBS News (https://www.sbs.com.au/news/australian-detective-uncovers-jfk-clues)

[DiscoMick]

I think aliens are secretly running the world. Prove me wrong!

[Eevo]

I think aliens are secretly running the world. Prove me wrong!

trump being an alien would explain a lot.

[superquag]

Not sure about the Kennedy statement though.

All was very hush hush until recently( last few months) when the story of an ex- NSW or Vic Cop explained his theory about Kennedy's death. Cop's name was Mc Laren.


It did sound very plausible & it had been hidden that their own Secret Service Shooter was "the Marksman from the Book Depository "the culprit & was an accidental shot from the SS car behind with a newly acquired (by them) assault weapon.

He claims the SS Detail had been on the booze overnight, apparently proven.

The whole thing was a Cockup & a Coverup to protect the Service.


I seem to recall it was going to be on one of the TV Channels so some of you may have seen it, but it was before the Covid business hit the streets so may have been overlooked


Here tis. BUGGER! Needs a subscription unless there is another way around that.

NoCookies | The Australian (https://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/australian-ex-cop-colin-mclaren-has-new-john-f-kennedy-death-theory/news-story/1a8664ccd972300594a964eeb4a2e573)

Yep, heard about this one some time back, basically the ducks of inadequate weapons training, attitude (?) and plain misfortune lined up and... Plausible.

[superquag]

trump being an alien would explain a lot.

Impossible. If you credit 'Aliens' with superior intelligence.....[bigwhistle]

[4bee]

Here's a link that goes a fair way toward disproving the secret service accidental assassin theory.

Did a Secret Service Agent Kill JFK by Accident? (http://22november1963.org.uk/did-a-secret-service-agent-kill-jfk-by-accident)

Regards,
Tote They mention Charles Bronson. The 'Death Wish' one presumably? Well there you go then.[bigrolf][biggrin]

[superquag]

160330

Says it all...

[superquag]

Here's a different one.. the current PAN DEMIC

We can understand the huge numbers of COV-19 deaths in Northern Italy, the most air-polluted place in Europe, where respiratory disease and death is abnormally higher at the best of times, and a substantial Chinese population / two-way air traffic with China - lots of textile mills owned by Chinese.
But New York is a stand-out, in that more age groups are falling off the perch, so what is in the water or air, or food - or NOT in the food - that makes them so vulnerable.?

Could it be too much high-tech medicine ? Like too many vaccinations - around 45 jabs by age 18 (and companies competing on price for the Vac. dollars... )

Background:- In the past, 50's and 60's, there was inadverdant contamination of Polio vaccine(s) with a monkey virus, SM40. Chances are, this was not the only one. Either then or later on.

Conspiracy Suggestion:- That this could be a retrovirus like XMVR, mouse virus, which was supposedly found in 65% of women suffering Chronic Fatigue, but less than 5% of women NOT afflicted. This virus could be spread by widespread (American) vaccine use and needs only it's partner in crime to annoy it into action.



Simian virus 40 in humans (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1941725/)

[DiscoMick]

Density of population in New York, I think.

[4bee]

Here's a different one.. the current PAN DEMIC

We can understand the huge numbers of COV-19 deaths in Northern Italy, the most air-polluted place in Europe, where respiratory disease and death is abnormally higher at the best of times, and a substantial Chinese population / two-way air traffic with China - lots of textile mills owned by Chinese.
But New York is a stand-out, in that more age groups are falling off the perch, so what is in the water or air, or food - or NOT in the food - that makes them so vulnerable.?

Could it be too much high-tech medicine ? Like too many vaccinations - around 45 jabs by age 18 (and companies competing on price for the Vac. dollars... )

Background:- In the past, 50's and 60's, there was inadverdant contamination of Polio vaccine(s) with a monkey virus, SM40. Chances are, this was not the only one. Either then or later on.

Conspiracy Suggestion:- That this could be a retrovirus like XMVR, mouse virus, which was supposedly found in 65% of women suffering Chronic Fatigue, but less than 5% of women NOT afflicted. This virus could be spread by widespread (American) vaccine use and needs only it's partner in crime to annoy it into action.



Simian virus 40 in humans (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1941725/)


With Donald in charge maybe they just wanna up & die.

[JDNSW]

Population density, some social factors (closeknit groups), a work system that effectively means you must go to work even if you are infectious, lousy medical support if your skin is the wrong colour.

[superquag]

This is yet another variation, but the kicker is...a disgruntled and suddenly unemployed worker...

The Well-Known Hazards of Coronavirus Vaccines (https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/05/10/is-there-a-vaccine-for-coronavirus.aspx?cid_source=dnl&cid_medium=email&cid_content=art1HL&cid=20200510Z2&et_cid=DM534074&et_rid=868357008)
once again, with this bloke, open and follow up the REFERENCES bottom-left of pages.

[superquag]

Came across this one today, and even for a closet Tin-Hat, it's a huge stretch....My initial observation is there must be a LOT of unemployed / desperate actors in the US....

Or script-writers. [bigwhistle]

FALSE FLAG ALERT: Obama Foundation tweeted about George Floyd on May 17th, a week before his supposed murder – UPDATE – NaturalNews.com (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-06-08-false-flag-obama-foundation-tweeted-george-floyd.html)

[Tote]

Came across this one today, and even for a closet Tin-Hat, it's a huge stretch....My initial observation is there must be a LOT of unemployed / desperate actors in the US....

Or script-writers. [bigwhistle]

FALSE FLAG ALERT: Obama Foundation tweeted about George Floyd on May 17th, a week before his supposed murder – UPDATE – NaturalNews.com (https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-06-08-false-flag-obama-foundation-tweeted-george-floyd.html)

That stuff is pretty out there......


Regards,
Tote

[superquag]

... Better than 'Pandemic War Games' (Simulation) held by a large US university... in October 2019 Allegedly, of course.

On a par with 'US govt agency sub-contracts corona virus research to a Chinese lab, after same work is shut down in the USA'

I reckon Mark Twain was on the money... "Don't read the media, and be uninformed, Read ...and you're mis-informed"

[superquag]

Even this bloke's name - and long white beard - ticks a lot of the 'meme' boxes... But in the spirit of this thread, here's the link.

The unholy alliance - Harmony Energy Consultants (https://www.harmonyenergyconsultants.com/web/en/mesiah-5.html)

A couple of things resonate, such as the desire to move us away from cash/physical money, and onto electronic - controlled by the banks - "money", and from local observations, this is working an absolute treat. At a local supermarket, nearly everyone uses cards. A check-out Chick commented on the fact I was the first to use cash that day...after 6pm.

And the Gardisil vaccination program. A Headmaster friend mentioned in passing, that they'd been approached to jab the kids... he rejected the idea, after doing his own due diligence..
Have since found neither of my Doctors 'hard-sell' that or the 'flu vaccine unless the patient insists.
- They boast their practice has the lowest 'vaccine adverse-effects' in the district.

[sashadidi]

5g that causes Covid 19 is in the wire of Masks that you are being made to wear in the USA
I wonder if she checked the wire in her bra for example....[bigwhistle]
Check here:
https://twitter.com/72tattedup/status/1281532739490066433