More 05 / 06 Defender buying/owning questions

[floyd]

Hi
Sorry I have more questions on buying and owning a Defender.
As the car will be leased what are the service intervals and roughly what does the LRA stealer charge for each service?
Does the Defender have child seat anchor points fitted or do you have to get after market ones fitted?
Thanks for the help

The heart sayes "yes" the head needs more convincing as does the minster for finance

[spudboy]

Will you get a petrol or a Diesel?

Official service intervals on a TD5 are 20,000Km, but my mechanic recommends every 10,000. My one and only service at the main dealer was $600. From then on I went to an independent and they are around $300 to $350 for a normal service.

My kids are 17 and 15 so no idea on the child restraint points but I'd reckon they'd be built in. There's sure to be an ADR that makes it compulsory to have them.

[bluetongue]

I've got a 2000 defender 110... no anchor points.

I took it to a place in Alexandria that specialises in fitting anchor points, child restraints, etc.

They actually had a brand-new 110 sitting there in the workshop. I had a look inside and didn't seem to have anchor points. Ok so this guy reckons...
- none of them come std with anchor points
- he can't bolt anything to the floor or roof because there's no support and because it's aluminium
- what he does is take off the upholstry on the back seats, puts some reinforcing frame in to support 3 anchor points half way down the back of the seat, put's it all back together for 1100 bucks.

Not quite willing to fork out over a thousand bucks, I did some ringing around... The guys at Graeme Cooper said that if your Defender was built in South Africa... no anchor points, but if it was built in the good ol' UK... 3 anchor points on the roof somewhere, near the rear window. They said the same as the guy at the 'restraint' place.... you'll have to get them fitted to the back of the rear seat - that's the best way to retro-fit them.

They said that about my 2000 model... not sure about a brand new one.

Mine for sure has nothing, so until kids grow up I'll be motoring them 'round in my commodore wagon.

Scott

[bluetongue]

One more thing regarding ADR.... the guy at the 'restraint' place in Alexandria said they don't need to comply for ADR when it comes to child anchor points because it's not classed as a 'family-mover' (or something like that)... I think it might be the same with dual-cabs and so on... I remember looking at the new toyota hilux and couldn't see any anchor points in that either.

When I was considering making the decision to buy a defender I found this thread on www.exploroz.com... in the end it really came down to personal taste (which according to my wife and most of friends, I don't have any)... but I love my defender and even though I've had some initial problems would definately consider buying a brand-newie later on in life... having said that though, it's definately good to have a boring-but-stable-family-mover that my commodore wagon gives me.

Anyway, here's the link to the thread http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/ArchiveView....ame%3D%26PN%3D3 (http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/ArchiveView.asp?ForumQID=26519&Page=%2FForum%2FDefault%2Easp%3FDisplaySet%3DBoth% 26Search%3D1%26Keywords%3Dhilux%26Search%5FTopic%3 Don%26Search%5FBody%3Don%26Search%5FName%3D%26PN%3 D3)

[Rosco]

Originally posted by spudboy
Will you get a petrol or a Diesel?
8O 8O 8O

Do you know something I don't ? :wink: :wink:

[abaddonxi]

Anchor points.

None of the Defenders come with anchor points fitted. In Australia Defenders are classed as light trucks, and as such aren't required to provide them. Hiluxes and such do provide them - 3 in the floor of dual cabs.

If you have a 110 you can get a bar fitted behind the rear seats. It bolts to the pillars on either side. It costs about $150-250. The pillars are steel, so no worries about tear through.

If you have a 130CC or a single cab it is a whole other story. If you want to know the story, look here.
http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Foru...child+restraint (http://www.aulro.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6165&highlight=child+restraint)

Which covers the topic thoroughly. Total cost for child restraints in my 130, under $200.

There is a place out in Hornsby that administers all of the child restraint fitting stations in NSW on behalf of the RTA, they are best to talk to. The guy in Alexandria http://www.karlisles.com.au/ is the guy you get sent to if you have a problem installation, like a 130.

PM me if you want more info.

Cheers
Simon

[spudboy]

Oh yeah Rosco - that was dumb! Was thinking Disco not Defender.

It was late last night after a wine or two though...... that's my only excuse.

[noddy]

So what are the rear seat belts bolted in to, especially the lap belt?

Just looking at mine, they are bolted through the floor and a cross member, which are all aluminimum.

[noddy]

The guy who owned 'Kimba' before me had a child seat in the back.

He went to great lengths to explain what was done to fit the restraint, I must admit at the time, I was not paying all that much attention, but he was pretty excited about what had been done.

As I get older, it seem to be a more topical question and I am now wishing I paid more attention :wink:

But anyway, here is a pic of what has been done to mine. Restraint in the middle of the floor. Climbing underneath, the point goes straight thru the same cross member as the seat belt restraints. Is this not legal in NSW (as it was done in Vic).

http://www.aulro.com/albums/album253/Img0104.sized.jpg

[Rosco]

Originally posted by spudboy
It was late last night after a wine or two though...... that's my only excuse.

Personally I can't think of a better one ....... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

Cheers

[Martin]

My 99 110 xTreme 9 seater has a brace bar behind the rear seats, and that has a child seat restraint attached to the top of it. It would definately do the job well I am sure - but all my kids are out of seats now. I assumed this bar, was part of the orignal as I bought it second hand, but it may be afternmarket? I will get a pic this weekend of you like...

Martin

[wally]

Floyd,
Not sure where you are located. My 2002 110 has a bar fitted behind the rear seats for child seat anchors. It was fabricated and installed by Seatwise in Brisbane. They do a very neat job.

[George130]

Floyd I'm guessing you don't want to do your own maintenance. I do with my lease. Dealer assured me my 130 did have anchor points for child seats but after picking it up we never found them. I ended up removing one of the seat mount bolts and fitting mine there. I have a steel frame for securing the rear seat to so it was easy for me. Not all of them have the setup I have and those people have had to fit the bar or similar. The inlaws Pajero is the same needs the bar in the back.

[geckos]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'>Does the Defender have child seat anchor points fitted or do you have to get after market ones fitted?
[/b][/quote]
I took ownership of a defender 05 model at the beginning of this year, None in my car. The seat belts are mounted to the floor with a support brace under the body. This seperates the the body from the chassis, so im thinking this is steel, could be wrong.....
I'm in queensland, pm me for quirries on the car, if you want

Geck

[Rat]

I bought a new defender 110 in july 05 and it had no anchor points. dealer told me before I bought it. I got them to throw in a cargo barrier and also the bar that goes from one side of car to the other for free in the deal. From memory it was worth about &#036;300. It has three anchors mounted to the bar. Great job, it&#39;s padded and everything. somewhere in Brisbane. Not "Streetwise", they shut down. If you wanna know where your car was made, check the last letter in the vin before the numbers, if its an A, its the UK.
Rat. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/