View Full Version : Should have driven My Disco! HighSpeed motorbike crash
NavyDiver
16th July 2019, 06:52 PM
Not a sympathy post- Loving life
I am:
1-very very very lucky to be alive-
2-very very very lucky to be likely to have a full recovery
Had to met my son to pay the dentist. Jumped on my bike. Its racing machine Honda CBR 600 1999 - I ride it fast in first gear then back off as I like my license[thumbsupbig]
At front left lane of three lanes at a red light. I could see several km of clear roads with not a single car. Green Light. about 2 seconds late I was doing 80kph about 100m in front of all the cars behind me. A car stuck more than his nose out into the left lane. The driver then saw me and look horrified. I swerved very hard to the middle lane. The very old driver of the car moved into the middle lane[wink11] His shocked expresion was still looking at me and his hands had not turned his steering wheel and were as frozen as the shock on his face. I was braking and still moving hard right .......... His car stopped still in the right lane across the entire lane. He had not tried to travel down any of the three lanes which did catch me
Back of his car, bonnet or verg then trees to kill me? I hit the bonnet
Came to 20m down the road a very broken man. I could see the old man standing by his car still in the same possition- He is ok.
The damage:
Broken Right leg
Smashed pelvis and hip
Punctured lung
Broken right arm at the sholder
Broken ribs
Spine T1 and T2
A few minor facial fractures
A few litres of blood lost
Royal Melb operations
Friday 5/7 CT giuded angiogram sealing all bleeding (I was wake Very cooL)
Saturday 6 /7 Rod joined broken right leg
Tuesday 9/7 Pelvis, hip and shoulder fixed
Pain prior to Tuesday Operation the pain was close to unbearable. I was rolled over by amazing caring nurses every 4 hours with the same unbelievable pain every time. Heavy duty drugs via a magic button I could push every five minutes only masked the agony.
12 hours late I was aware they were rolling me and expecting the PAIN. not a bit hit. 4 hours late ditto[thumbsupbig]
I am now in Rehab. No pain at all, No drugs at all. Add I can weight bare on my repaired right leg. Every day I do new things I took entirely fir granted before the crash. Each one is kicking a goal.
Lucky I am not dead, lucky I did not add the brain to the list. Spine is good, face is great- Not allowed to blow my nose for another week[bigsmile] Lung puncture resolved it self. Might miss the Melbourne Marathon this year. Just this once. Anyone else think Incisor might need to change me from ChatterBox to Very Very Lucky?
cripesamighty
16th July 2019, 07:05 PM
Well, no more Lotto tickets for you my son. You just used up a lifetime's worth of luck in one accident! Holy crap, that would have been scary as hell as it unfolded. Glad you are on the slow mend and hopefully recovery is as close to 100% as possible. Good luck with the convalescing and treatment.
Homestar
16th July 2019, 07:17 PM
Holy crap! So glad you’re able to tell the tale even though it sounds like you have a long recovery ahead. Hope you do make a full recovery, thoughts are with you and your family.
Homestar
16th July 2019, 07:46 PM
Anyone else think Incisor might need to change me from ChatterBox to Very Very Lucky?
‘Tis done thanks to an Admin. 👍
DiscoMick
16th July 2019, 07:53 PM
Oh man, that must have been super scary. Fortunate no brain injury. Hope you make a full recovery.
grey_ghost
16th July 2019, 08:07 PM
Mate look after yourself - sounds pretty nasty.
(I am too much of a wimp to ride a pushbike on the road, much less a motorbike!)
rick130
16th July 2019, 08:47 PM
****! :o
Glad to hear you're still in the land of the living.
loanrangie
16th July 2019, 09:14 PM
Every riders worst nightmare, gotta have eyes all around these days. Good luck with the recovery.
ChookD2
16th July 2019, 09:24 PM
Holy snapping duck poop. All the best for a speedy recovery. I gave up bikes about 15 years ago when the traffic started to get ridiculous and road rage was creeping in, don't think I could go back to one now.
Arapiles
16th July 2019, 09:24 PM
Good luck with the recovery.
Can I ask what you were wearing? Did it work?
SBD4
16th July 2019, 09:35 PM
You lucky, lucky bugger...to come out of it the way you have. Sounds like you are a fit bloke which probably helped you a lot.
Best of luck with the recovery.
PS I bet the boss has sold what remains of the bike for scrap and has vetoed any future plans for a new one!
NavyDiver
17th July 2019, 03:14 AM
‘Tis done thanks to an Admin. 👍
I get by with some help with my freinds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C58ttB2-Qg
NavyDiver
17th July 2019, 03:20 AM
Well, no more Lotto tickets for you my son. You just used up a lifetime's worth of luck in one accident! Holy crap, that would have been scary as hell as it unfolded. Glad you are on the slow mend and hopefully recovery is as close to 100% as possible. Good luck the convalescing and treatment.
On HMAS Hobart in Hobart. ( 1986) I won over 6 k at a $2 black jack Table. I have 3 wonderful kids and an amazingly tolerant beautiful wife. I love numbers and statistics so think gambling is only entertainment at best . Perhaps I should grab a ticket? [biggrin]
NavyDiver
17th July 2019, 03:33 AM
Good luck with the recovery.
Can I ask what you were wearing? Did it work?
No problem. Naughty me did not have the bike pants on for the very short ride. Added a few scratches but doubt the pants would have saved any thing else.
Leather Jacket Sans 1986 Sydney from my first bike. Only been on the deck twice before. It saved a lot of my upper body from scraping while sliding. Same for the boots.
Full face helmet which is a very good fit. I think this possibly helped to no brain shake[biggrin]
Jacket survived - the nice paramedics got it off my broken body aware I was worried about them cutting it off. A little leather repair and it will ride again. Boots are fine. Jocks, pants and everything under the jacket was cut off me by Doctors or the paramedics[bigwhistle]
Eevo
17th July 2019, 04:56 AM
Fortunate no brain injury.
we cant be sure of that [bigwhistle]
trout1105
17th July 2019, 05:06 AM
I went through a similar ordeal 4 years ago so I can feel your pain.
The rehab can be painful and frustrating But stick with it as those milestones and kicking goals are a real Buzz to achieve.
I wish you the Best with your recovery Mate[thumbsupbig]
Geedublya
17th July 2019, 06:17 AM
I had a mate killed in similar circumstances back in the 80s on a GPZ900R. He accelerated hard away from a set of lights and a car further up the street pulled out. Drivers don't expect the bike to appear so quickly.
Good luck with the recovery, I've still got 6-12 months before my left arm is fairly functional, hopefully I can get enough movement out of my wrist and elbow to ride again.
Ean Austral
17th July 2019, 06:50 AM
Wow ,you certainly are very lucky to still be here . Best of luck for a speedy and full recovery .
Bikes were never my thing , lost a close friend many moons ago when he hit a cow on his bike riding from Darwin to Perth.
Cheers Ean
austastar
17th July 2019, 09:56 AM
Hi,
My commiserations for your plight. I have been close a few times on the bike, but nothing I didn't ride away from.
Worst one was a large dog at urban speed.
The only hospitalisation was from a front wheel jamming on the push bike at full speed.
Take it as easy as you can but work hard with the physio.
Cheers
Tombie
17th July 2019, 11:38 AM
Glad you've come through it ok.
Its one of my greatest concerns when on the bike...
Bigbjorn
17th July 2019, 11:51 AM
I stopped riding 40+ years ago. I came to the conclusion that every time I went out on the road someone tried to kill me.
Fattima
17th July 2019, 12:05 PM
As you said lucky there are no brain or severe spinal injuries, where I work we treat lots of acquired brain injury patients and it ain't pretty sometimes. Hope your recovery is going well.
V8Ian
17th July 2019, 12:08 PM
I stopped riding 40+ years ago. I came to the conclusion that every time I went out on the road someone tried to kill me.
They're still trying, Brian. :tease:
loanrangie
17th July 2019, 12:21 PM
I stopped riding 40+ years ago. I came to the conclusion that every time I went out on the road someone tried to kill me.
Thats how you ride to survive.
DiscoMick
17th July 2019, 12:57 PM
I had a friend who bought himself a Harley as a 60th birthday present. The first weekend after taking delivery he went for a ride, lost it on a corner, hit a tree and killed himself.
So I'll leave the bikes to others thanks.
What do they call bikers - temporary Australians? Usually not their fault though.
Eevo
17th July 2019, 12:59 PM
Usually not their fault though.
incorrrect,
about 80% of motorbike fatalities are single vehicle.
4bee
17th July 2019, 01:43 PM
You just used up a lifetime's worth of luck in one accident!
What the man said. Just shows that life can be over in an instant.
Despite that "shopping list" I suspect you will make the best of it & have a quick & satisfactory recovery.[smilebigeye]
donh54
17th July 2019, 02:46 PM
Ouch! Here's hoping for a speedy recovery and no lingering after effects
scarry
17th July 2019, 03:13 PM
Geez,lucky alright,hope the recovery goes well.
I too leave motorised bikes to others.
I drive a lot for work and see near misses often.
I saw a shocker when in my late teens,shocked me enough to not get on one ever again.
I can still remember it like it happened yesterday.
Then there was the coroners stuff,etc,not what you would wish on anyone.
DiscoMick
17th July 2019, 03:37 PM
I had a friend who was a photographer in Western Sydney.
One day he went to a crash between a plumber's truck and a motorcyclist.
When he arrived the motorcyclist was standing there afraid to move because a length of some kind of bar had gone in his left chest, passed right through his body and was sticking out the other side. About 2-3 metres of bar was hanging out each side, bouncing up and down if he moved.
He showed me the photo. I wish I still had a copy. It was amazing.
It had a happy ending. The ambos cut off the bar on both sides, took him to hospital and the bar was removed in an operation. Miraculously, it had missed all his vital organs. They patched him up and he was fine. Talk about a miracle escape!
jonesfam
17th July 2019, 05:24 PM
All the best for a speedy recovery.
As the "Python" said - "Always look on the bright side of life!"
I had been married 1 year when I put my bike into a tree at some silly speed.
After I got out of Hospital, a month or so later, SWMBO said "Bikes or ME!!"
Aparently "Can I think on that?" was the wrong answer.
For the past 30 years I have been restricted to cars, motor scooters & quads.
When I lived in town I reckon the scooter were far more dangerous that the bikes?
Jonesfam
PS Got to have a brain to get a brain injury. :)
W&KO
17th July 2019, 06:02 PM
Wonder if the outcome would have been different if you cruise off the start line like everybody else (instead of nailing it) therefore arriving at the intersection a little later.
Could have been the same.
Either way good luck with your recovery.....
there was a similar incident at the bottom of the hill at home, sadly it wasn’t a good outcome for the rider. Night time, t-intersection and street lighting which I reckon defuses the effectiveness of the lights on cars and bikes.
Hats off to your guys on bikes these days, lane splitting and phones distracting drivers.
Tombie
17th July 2019, 06:22 PM
The traffics no worse; you just all got older [emoji51]
I’m about to add a nice 1000cc bike to my workshop, along side the 1800cc Cruiser..
I ride like I drive, with a complete distrust of anyone around me. It’s the best way to stay alive.
That and picking when to twist the right wrist [emoji41]
4bee
17th July 2019, 08:13 PM
It had a happy ending. The ambos cut off the bar on both sides, took him to hospital and the bar was removed in an operation. Miraculously, it had missed all his vital organs. They patched him up and he was fine. Talk about a miracle escape!
If it had been Twisted Re Bar the Ambos could have unscrewed him off it.[smilebigeye]
AMBO.........."Sir, are you a left or Right hand Thread person?
4bee
17th July 2019, 08:16 PM
Aparently "Can I think on that?" was the wrong answer.
:Rolling::Rolling::Rolling:
austastar
17th July 2019, 08:44 PM
Hi,
They don't subscribe to all logic, just a uniquely illogical selection of logic is my 48 year experience.
And that selection can vary with wind or tide at any random global location.
Cheers
RANDLOVER
17th July 2019, 11:16 PM
Very, Very Lucky indeed. All the best for your full recovery. I used to say when I still rode that it is pro'ly better to be on a bike to avoid an accident, but once you have one it's better to be in a car. My brother and mechanic still don't like it when I ride my bicycle to fetch/deliver the car for service/repairs.
NavyDiver
18th July 2019, 04:39 AM
Wonder if the outcome would have been different if you cruise off the start line like everybody else (instead of nailing it) therefore arriving at the intersection a little later.
Could have been the same.
Either way good luck with your recovery.....
there was a similar incident at the bottom of the hill at home, sadly it wasn’t a good outcome for the rider. Night time, t-intersection and street lighting which I reckon defuses the effectiveness of the lights on cars and bikes.
Hats off to your guys on bikes these days, lane splitting and phones distracting drivers.
Fully agree that the gent driving may well have seen the solid lines of cars, buses and trucks and had I been a lot slower this would have made it less likely the gent I hit would have failed to give way had I stayed with all the traffic. It also adds the risk of the frequent lane changers we all see. I tend to stick left always to avoid the flip flops we see every day. Far right lanes to turning left threading through imagined space over several lanes is risk for all of us. I prefer clear air if possible mostly to remove that very common issue.
On lane splitting - I do if very thing is stopped not at the legal <40kph. I could easily loose count of all the VIPs on thier phone while riding driving or especially lane splitting stationary cars. Mindfulness is a requirement to live riding.
4bee
18th July 2019, 08:48 AM
A little leather repair and it will ride again.[bigwhistle]
But only if the"Beautiful & Tolerant wife" says so.
[smilebigeye]
I believe a lot of this "accident" business is down to Drivers not planning their journey & required turn offs & making a quick "OOOPS WTF" type decision hence the erratic lane changes.
Even if I get it wrong & go early, it means I am only in the LH Lane for another couple of hundred metres. Bugger all in the scheme of things when you consider the alternative.
Six grand eh? I know a bloke in Swaziland who is on the bones of his arse & could use a bit of a top up.[biggrin]
Regards.
87County
18th July 2019, 09:19 AM
On HMAS Hobart in Hobart. ( 1986) I won over 6 k at a $2 black jack Table. I have 3 wonderful kids and an amazingly tolerant beautiful wife. I love numbers and statistics so think gambling is only entertainment at best . Perhaps I should grab a ticket? [biggrin]
That's rough news (your crash) - thanks for sharing with us.
We trust that your recovery is smooth - sounds like you're getting good care.
Yes, by all means buy a ticket but I remember the old Yiddish sayings - if your God wants you to win you only need to buy one ticket :)
vnx205
18th July 2019, 12:18 PM
While it doesn't excuse the car driver's behaviour, the fact that the bike accelerated so much faster than the cars makes it understandable.
One possible reason he pulled out is that he saw all the cars stopped at the red light and calculated (quite correctly) that none of the could get to his intersection quickly enough to be a danger.
Perhaps he didn't see the bike at the lights or didn't appreciate how much faster it was than the cars.
I can understand his miscalculation because about 52 years ago, I assumed that the van I glimpsed on my right at a T intersection in town was far enough away for me to safely negotiate the intersection.
I hadn't allowed for the fact that he was doing almost twice the speed limit (according to a witness he had passed moments before).
In fact I would have made it (just) as he crossed to the wrong side of the road to T bone me.
On the rare occasions that I rode my Honda S90 or Hodaka 100 in Sydney, I always felt comparatively safe because I could jump well clear of all the cars at the lights, so I had plenty of clear space around me most of the time.
I hadn't considered the fact that a driver in a side street might base his decision to pull out on his knowledge of the speed at which 4 wheel vehicles leave the lights.
stuarth44
18th July 2019, 02:59 PM
last bike k1200 gt, rode 14000km in USA in 6weeks, 2013, only the sheer power stopped me from a fatal coming into SaltLake City, when guys in pickups tried sqeeze me out, dunno for sure but think i I grabbed a ton in second, just reading abt Carlin Dunne, pikes peak, I, m so sad 'bout that
VladTepes
18th July 2019, 03:33 PM
Sheez
NavyDiver I'm glad you got away with that ! Well, more than could reasonably have been expected at any rate. Yell out if there's anything we can do for you.
I was gonna jump on here and mention about how I had a low speed off / crash in the traffic on Coronation Drive in peak hour last week - but, perhaps not :)
I assume the accident was terminal for the bike. Which begs the question... what bike you buying with the insurance payout ? :)
4bee
18th July 2019, 06:48 PM
Well assuming Ms Beautiful & tolerant will let Diver do that of course.[biggrin]
RANDLOVER
18th July 2019, 10:02 PM
But only if the"Beautiful & Tolerant wife" says so.
[smilebigeye]
I believe a lot of this "accident" business is down to Drivers not planning their journey & required turn offs & making a quick "OOOPS WTF" type decision hence the erratic lane changes.
............[biggrin]
Regards.
I think this is made worse today by the GPS's, people are driving to places they'd never have gone before. I'm even sure some of them are night blind, and think they don't need to be able to see at night as the Satnav will tell them where to turn.
RANDLOVER
18th July 2019, 10:14 PM
No problem. Naughty me did not have the bike pants on for the very short ride. Added a few scratches but doubt the pants would have saved any thing else.
Leather Jacket Sans 1986 Sydney from my first bike. Only been on the deck twice before. It saved a lot of my upper body from scraping while sliding. Same for the boots.
Full face helmet which is a very good fit. I think this possibly helped to no brain shake[biggrin]
Jacket survived - the nice paramedics got it off my broken body aware I was worried about them cutting it off. A little leather repair and it will ride again. Boots are fine. Jocks, pants and everything under the jacket was cut off me by Doctors or the paramedics[bigwhistle]
Might I suggest getting your jacket repaired for sentimental reasons, but have a look at getting one of these new bike leathers with airbags, How It Works: Modern Airbag Suits (https://www.rideapart.com/articles/245118/how-it-works-modern-airbag-suits/) .
4bee
19th July 2019, 09:47 AM
Now you're talking.
I feel sure Ms B&T would approve of that. I mean what could possibly go wrong?[smilebigeye]
UncleHo
19th July 2019, 09:50 AM
My best wishes for a full and complete recovery,I rode from 1960 until 1985, we moved to Qld in 82 and I remember how Qld drivers failed to indicate, my ride was a 60's BMW boxer,those heads saved my legs a few times slide down the road of the rocker covers[bigwhistle] threw it away down "spit hill"in Sydney once,GF now Mrs was on the back NOT IMPRESSED, but she is still around 44years later[biggrin]
Hope you make full recovery
cheers
shanegtr
19th July 2019, 10:33 AM
Best of luck for the recovery. Try not to get too frustrated with those around you during the recovery process - I had spinal fractures 5 years ago and I remember getting peeved with my limited ability to do things so just remember that its only temporary.
donh54
19th July 2019, 02:28 PM
One way to help save your sanity, is to write the story of what happened, get a hundred or so copies run off, and when someone says "Oooh! What happened to you?" just hand them a sheet to read.
All the best, old mate!
Arapiles
19th July 2019, 07:03 PM
No problem. Naughty me did not have the bike pants on for the very short ride. Added a few scratches but doubt the pants would have saved any thing else.
Leather Jacket Sans 1986 Sydney from my first bike. Only been on the deck twice before. It saved a lot of my upper body from scraping while sliding. Same for the boots.
Full face helmet which is a very good fit. I think this possibly helped to no brain shake[biggrin]
Jacket survived - the nice paramedics got it off my broken body aware I was worried about them cutting it off. A little leather repair and it will ride again. Boots are fine. Jocks, pants and everything under the jacket was cut off me by Doctors or the paramedics[bigwhistle]
Good to know that the leathers worked even without D30 etc.
Arapiles
19th July 2019, 07:13 PM
True story: I'm in my 50s and a couple of years ago I decided to get back into motorbikes. Being aware of the risk profile for 50ish returning riders I did a course at HART in Campbellfield.
Anyway, at the end of the day, when I was coming out of the facility at Campbellfield in my car and turning left onto the Hume Highway, one of the other guys that had done the course, who was probably in his 20s, passed me on his bike on my left, so inside of me. He then proceeded to fang down the highway at warp speed and the last I saw of him he was lane splitting between two semis ..... really not sure why he did the course or what he got out of it. Clearly he didn't hear what the instructor, an ex-motorbike cop, was saying about accidents ....
NavyDiver
20th July 2019, 01:20 PM
Sheez
NavyDiver I'm glad you got away with that ! Well, more than could reasonably have been expected at any rate. Yell out if there's anything we can do for you.
I was gonna jump on here and mention about how I had a low speed off / crash in the traffic on Coronation Drive in peak hour last week - but, perhaps not :)
I assume the accident was terminal for the bike. Which begs the question... what bike you buying with the insurance payout ? :)
Suzuki V-Strom 1000 seems to be the pick the moment
[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]
V8Ian
20th July 2019, 01:55 PM
I'm pleased you're on the mend Mr. D. What was going through your mind as you were doing the Supeman interpretation?
I had a 100kph off, some years ago, after a dog took out the front wheel in the dark, on the Cunningham Highway. As I was sliding up the white line, using my arse as a brake and a B-double pulling as far left as it could, all I could think was "I hope my bike doesn't hit the guard rail." and "bugger, I've got my good jeans on."
DeeJay
21st July 2019, 09:15 PM
Suzuki V-Strom 1000 seems to be the pick the moment
[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]
My gosh, that is something.. I'm just as gobsmacked - given your current injuries- that you could consider " getting back on the horse" as reading about your accident. Mind you I can't talk - I had 8 motorcycle accidents before giving up- drivers are blind to motorcyclists. I would happily resume riding if everyone else walked...[bighmmm]
Tombie
21st July 2019, 09:34 PM
Why would you be gobsmacked?
Everyone I know that’s had a serious off has hopped back on....
We don’t stop driving after a big smash [emoji6]
4bee
22nd July 2019, 08:21 AM
I had 8 motorcycle accidents before giving up- drivers are blind to motorcyclists.
Maybe that is because some MC idjits are so erratic with their movements on the road that one second they ain't there & the next they are barreling past & then WTF, they cut closely in front of you. Head lights on? Maybe or not.
Then what about the guys that take a bend so far over the centre line at speed that the bike is on the correct side of the road while their head & shoulders are on your side? A slight collision with a Rear Vision Mirror would be all it takes. When one lives & drives in the Hills here you see this more often than not, especially on a Sunday morning when they seem to go out for a club outing.
The road is not a Race Circuit where some of those antics belong. Mind you the good riders outweigh the dopey ones so that is a Plus.
We are reminded of these things when we pass a small Home made floral & white cross monument on a bend up the road which has been there for aprox 30 years after a rider slid under an approaching car. Died of course. We usually make the comment "What a waste of a life" & then we go on a bit how he could have been a lovely bloke with a great future in front of him as a Surgeon etc or something else of value to the community & his family.
Some one still thinks of him (besides us) as a person, as Flowers are routinely left there after all this time.
austastar
22nd July 2019, 09:41 AM
..... as Flowers are routinely left there after all this time.
Hi,
So many of those beside the roads, so tragic for those grieving.
Cheers
Ranga
25th July 2019, 08:37 PM
Best of luck with the recovery. You're story almost makes me glad I sold my bikes. [bigsad]
Tombie
25th July 2019, 09:27 PM
Hi,
So many of those beside the roads, so tragic for those grieving.
Cheers
And in most cases; so easily avoided.
p38arover
26th July 2019, 11:30 AM
Suzuki V-Strom 1000 seems to be the pick the moment
[bigwhistle][bigwhistle][bigwhistle]
Excellent choice. (I had a DL650 Strom)
When you get it (or before) come and join us on For Suzuki V-Strom Enthusiasts (http://www.stromtrooper.com) (I'm a Moderator on there). There's also another Strom forum VSRI V-Strom Riders International - Index (https://www.vstrom.info/Smf/index.php)
Get better soon. My wife occasionally pushes for me to sell the XJR1300.
VladTepes
26th July 2019, 03:47 PM
Best of luck with the recovery. You're story almost makes me glad I sold my bikes. [bigsad]
Sook ! :P
NavyDiver
2nd August 2019, 10:26 AM
Patient patience. Xrays booked for 15/8 seems a long way. My House has about 52 to many stairs for me at present[biggrin]
On a really bright note walking well in the pool - I am allowed to non weight baring. Even Brighter note Bye Bye Dry July
Cheers all. Have a great weekend
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4bee
2nd August 2019, 11:17 AM
My House has about 52 to many stairs for me at present[biggrin]
What you really really need Diver is a temporary Off Road Wheel Chair. "Stairs? What stairs?" Job done.[smilebigeye]
Keep on improving & don't let this ruin your sense of humour.
Btw, is that Red wine or are you still losing blood?
NavyDiver
14th August 2019, 05:38 PM
Home today. Right leg, Bum and Right arm hit the stairs as a kookaburra laughed across the road [biggrin]
Honestly it was funny. Loved having a cup of my own and my chair in my brief visit Broken bones take 6 weeks right? How about surgialy reinforced bones?
I have about 1/2 a tone of stainless steel in my pelvis and shoulder. Titanium rod in my broken leg which I have been standing on for a month now. My unbroken leg under the repaired "Open book" pelvis has been egg shell weight bearing for four weeks as well, Shoulder left arm in Egg shell useless for the same time.
X-rays and Surgeons review a few hours later tomorrow about 4 and a bit weeks post my surgical reinforcing. can I walk? Can I use my right arm? Or do I wait to that 6 week typical and use my bum to get up stairs and home Friday or early next week?
I am honestly lucky to be alive so the questions are really for fun not serious. Do Broken bones sugically enhanced heal better than the plaster cast way? I find out in a few hours [thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig]
Tombie
14th August 2019, 05:47 PM
Good luck mate and a speedy recovery going forward.
I just got my self a whole heap of hurt last weekend.
We have to have these things.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190814/485e2d71b4b7db6f16fef1deb627ec27.jpg
bob10
15th August 2019, 05:54 PM
The damage:
Broken Right leg
Smashed pelvis and hip
Punctured lung
Broken right arm at the sholder
Broken ribs
Spine T1 and T2
A few minor facial fractures
A few litres of blood lost
Lucky man, some one was looking after you, still, no excuse to miss veterans day, 18th August. You still have a left hand to hold a convivial. :wheelchair:
Tombie
15th August 2019, 06:11 PM
The damage:
Broken Right leg
Smashed pelvis and hip
Punctured lung
Broken right arm at the sholder
Broken ribs
Spine T1 and T2
A few minor facial fractures
A few litres of blood lost
Lucky man, some one was looking after you, still, no excuse to miss veterans day, 18th August. You still have a left hand to hold a convivial. :wheelchair:
That “someone” was pretty bloody useless then!
Hate to see what “they” would do to him if “they” were *not* looking after him [emoji41]
4bee
15th August 2019, 06:52 PM
Could have been worse Diver, you could have been in a real accident.[smilebigeye]
bob10
15th August 2019, 06:58 PM
That “someone” was pretty bloody useless then!
Hate to see what “they” would do to him if “they” were *not* looking after him [emoji41]
He wouldn't be here.
V8Ian
15th August 2019, 07:03 PM
Consider a Goldwing, Mr Diver. They have an airbag fitted. [wink11]
https://motorcycles.honda.com.au/Touring/2018_Goldwing_Tour_Premium
bob10
15th August 2019, 09:13 PM
One of these would be good.
YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch'time_continue=22&v=vBdcNdKxTs8)
NavyDiver
16th August 2019, 06:30 AM
X-rays and two of the three bones covered. No walking unsupported which is wheel chair pending Right shoulder today which just might allow me to use crutches.
Chatted with surgeons and the BOSS or they chatted about me every morning at 7 am in the Trauma ward in the Hospital for the first 7 crazy days. "No high impact sports for 3 months, Swimming and bike riding will be ok..........." They forgot to mention no walking for 3 months till I was told yesterday[bighmmm]
The x-rays all showed bones regrowing well or very very well[bigwhistle]
Right Clavicle is twice as thick as it was. ( Shoulder bone) The thickness is excluding the cool metal plate and screws they reinforced it with. I see that cool surgeon today. Does double thickness equal double strength? No idea yet. Apparently the bone double trick is a known side effect of a knock on the head or one other item which I missed.
bob10
16th August 2019, 06:44 AM
Take your time, mate. Don't rush back into your normal pursuits, recovery is like eating an elephant, one bite at a time. I have some excellent books to read , if you want. Boomerangs though.
Saitch
16th August 2019, 07:26 AM
Consider a Goldwing, Mr Diver. They have an airbag fitted. [wink11]
https://motorcycles.honda.com.au/Touring/2018_Goldwing_Tour_Premium
Ian, doesn't yours have 2 when on the road?:twisted:
Saitch
16th August 2019, 11:51 AM
I have some excellent books to read , if you want. Boomerangs though.
That's very thoughtful of you, Bob. It made me go through my little library and I'm sure I have several that the person in question would enjoy. Some from the early 70's too, would you believe? :wasntme:
All the best in the recuperation, ND. I went through a bit in '71 after trying to move a drunk's car out of the way with my Bonnie. ( The book didn't help![wink11])
DiscoMick
16th August 2019, 01:12 PM
yeah, all the best and don't hurry back just because you're feeling a bit better, or you may regret it later. Time is needed for full healing.
bob10
17th August 2019, 08:28 AM
X-rays and two of the three bones covered. No walking unsupported which is wheel chair pending Right shoulder today which just might allow me to use crutches.
Chatted with surgeons and the BOSS or they chatted about me every morning at 7 am in the Trauma ward in the Hospital for the first 7 crazy days. "No high impact sports for 3 months, Swimming and bike riding will be ok..........." They forgot to mention no walking for 3 months till I was told yesterday[bighmmm]
The x-rays all showed bones regrowing well or very very well[bigwhistle]
Right Clavicle is twice as thick as it was. ( Shoulder bone) The thickness is excluding the cool metal plate and screws they reinforced it with. I see that cool surgeon today. Does double thickness equal double strength? No idea yet. Apparently the bone double trick is a known side effect of a knock on the head or one other item which I missed.
You may be interested in some posts in Walrus, regarding Australians in Vietnam. There are excellent reports on the CDT3 teams , some of which I have never heard before. Their involvement in SEAL TEAM operations was certainly kept quiet. And if we had known of the VC sappers planting sophisticated Russian limpet mines on ships in Vung Tau harbour 'Operation Awkward' would have taken everyone's full attention. Some very interesting stories across all 3 services. Take your mind off things for a while.
NavyDiver
17th August 2019, 07:46 PM
Disco is rolling again[thumbsupbig]. Crutches are 3km worn in today as well. Discharge Monday or Tuesday. ( Or I might drive myself home [biggrin])
Junior Surgeon on Friday said I could add 5kg of weight to shoulder. [bigsad] Left me assuming next sentence would be see you in 6 weeks!
He checked with his boss how changed it to full weight, crutches, driving and removing the cool reinforcing plate of stainless in 6 weeks. Rushed back- Not- transit lounge at RMH 6 hours Thursday and 4 hours Friday. Did all my physio while waiting. Got back to ask the physio if I could have crutches? He may have suspected he might not see me again so deferred that until this morning with stair climbing Monday.
20 minutes walking with 2 hours off to nurse the shoulder a little. Still being over taken by everyone - Not for long I suspect. Took a load of stuff home and got myself a cupper and patted the dog who was happy to see me. Funnily enough when I got home my wife and kids found me MIA from the hospital. [biggrin] Almost all the hospital staff and patients all commented I have grown a LOT now upright and not scooting about in my wheel chair.
NavyDiver
20th August 2019, 09:54 AM
153643 Bleeding to death is very over rated. Blood bank texts to my phone reminding me its time to donate again will be followed up on as soon as they allow. [biggrin]
Bones mending well, just another 6 weeks until I am allowed to start running again with out the crutches. More than enough steel to make airports fun in the future. Drove the Disco home myself of course. Thanks for all the kind words all. Much appreciated.
4bee
20th August 2019, 11:13 AM
More than enough steel to make airports fun in the future.
Does that mean they will have you strip off 100% & lay you on the X-Ray conveyor belt & slide you through in front of Joe Public? They will need to get a larger Plastic Tub to what they use now.
Of course, the upside is that while you are concealed behind the curtains you may go though a few accompanying Wallets & come out a much richer bloke.
[biggrin]
I'd like to see that.
V8Ian
20th August 2019, 11:29 AM
Not everyone's a burnt out fridgie/crook, thinking along those lines, Mr, Don't Bee. [bigrolf]
4bee
20th August 2019, 11:58 AM
Really 58i? You will be saying next that you can trust everyone 100% you know or meet.
Arapiles
21st August 2019, 06:45 PM
Take it easy .... I haven’t had anything like your damage but I’ve had a (regular) stream of orthopaedic operations on the same leg over the last 25 years and I’ve found that the best long term results come from being really conservative.
I got to use a hydrotherapy pool last year which was very cool ....
Saitch
22nd August 2019, 07:10 AM
More than enough steel to make airports fun in the future.
A bloke I know, who has a lot of metal in him from a few hang-gliding "Incidents", gets a bit sweaty when there is lightning around.
RANDLOVER
22nd August 2019, 08:12 AM
A bloke I know, who has a lot of metal in him from a few hang-gliding "Incidents", gets a bit sweaty when there is lightning around.
At least he doesn't wet his pants every time his wife turns the microwave on, as does Clark Griswald's BIL Eddie due to a metal plate in his head, in the National Lampoon's Vacation movie.
4bee
22nd August 2019, 08:16 AM
A bloke I know, who has a lot of metal in him from a few hang-gliding "Incidents", gets a bit sweaty when there is lightning around.
Does he bite the dust (or sea) the second he leaves the clff edge?[smilebigeye]
RANDLOVER
22nd August 2019, 09:35 AM
X-rays and two of the three bones covered. No walking unsupported which is wheel chair pending Right shoulder today which just might allow me to use crutches.
Chatted with surgeons and the BOSS or they chatted about me every morning at 7 am in the Trauma ward in the Hospital for the first 7 crazy days. "No high impact sports for 3 months, Swimming and bike riding will be ok..........." They forgot to mention no walking for 3 months till I was told yesterday[bighmmm]
The x-rays all showed bones regrowing well or very very well[bigwhistle]
Right Clavicle is twice as thick as it was. ( Shoulder bone) The thickness is excluding the cool metal plate and screws they reinforced it with. I see that cool surgeon today. Does double thickness equal double strength? No idea yet. Apparently the bone double trick is a known side effect of a knock on the head or one other item which I missed.
Glad to hear you are out of hospital. I think the bone doubling trick is well known, that is what the karate/kung-fu movies are about, when you see them practicing punching bowls of peas/pebbles, kicking rope wrapped posts, etc. It is not to prove they are tough but they are actually creating micro fractures in their hands/feet which then heal up even thicker/stronger.
Saitch
22nd August 2019, 09:55 AM
Does he bite the dust (or sea) the second he leaves the clff edge?[smilebigeye]
It was pretty hilarious when, (Well, for me, it was) quite a few years ago, on the then dirt between McKinlay and Winton, unpredicted storm cells were everywhere and there were a few conventional vehicles stuck in the mud. "Ironman" and I were helping a young couple with a toddler retrieve their Falcon from a table drain when a crack of thunder and nearly simultaneous lightning flash sent my mate diving to the ground into about 6" of thick, wet mud.
The lightning didn't faze the little tacker but, when my mate stood up, all hell broke loose. He did look pretty frightening, I have to say. [biggrin]
He reckons he was more worried about being fused together rather then getting killed!
DiscoMick
22nd August 2019, 10:52 AM
Don't rush your recovery. Give it time to heal properly.
Arapiles
22nd August 2019, 08:53 PM
Take it easy .... I haven’t had anything like your damage but I’ve had a (regular) stream of orthopaedic operations on the same leg over the last 25 years and I’ve found that the best long term results come from being really conservative.
I got to use a hydrotherapy pool last year which was very cool ....
Oh, BTW, going through airport security will be an interesting experience - I now just up-front tell them that I have an artificial hip.
DiscoMick
22nd August 2019, 10:01 PM
May have to carry a letter from your doctor.
jonesfam
23rd August 2019, 10:21 AM
One of our kids has a Bonebridge hearing aid imbedded in his head/skull, we have a special plastic card to show at airports etc to explain why he sets off the metal detectors.
The security people still look at him suspiciously, obvously a terrorist him being a 16 year old Aboriginal kid??
Jonesfam
Bigbjorn
23rd August 2019, 11:23 AM
At least he doesn't wet his pants every time his wife turns the microwave on, as does Clark Griswald's BIL Eddie due to a metal plate in his head, in the National Lampoon's Vacation movie.
I am told that if you have a pacemaker every time you have an orgasm your garage doors open.[bigwhistle]
scarry
23rd August 2019, 11:28 AM
I am told that if you have a pacemaker every time you have an orgasm your garage doors open.[bigwhistle]
:Rolling::Rolling:
My 85 yr mother has a pacemaker,she hasn't mentioned any issues with the garage door.
She does have issues with which light switch operates which lights,seems someone tampers with the wiring every so often[bighmmm]
Arapiles
23rd August 2019, 07:03 PM
May have to carry a letter from your doctor.
I asked my surgeon about that - since they're easily forged they're not going to save you from a patdown.
4bee
24th August 2019, 08:12 AM
I am told that if you have a pacemaker every time you have an orgasm your garage doors open.[bigwhistle]
[biggrin] That probably accounts for why my garage door hinges are rusted solid.
Hang about. I don't have a pacemaker.[smilebigeye]
NavyDiver
17th October 2019, 05:55 PM
Stainless steel plate and 6 screws in my shoulder come out next week. Monday RMH or Wednesday St V pvt? Choices!
I broke a screw in my leg last week- Minor bugger. The break in my tibia ( big bone below your and my knee) is held apart by a steel plate outside the bone. Seems to be a issue which broke the screw. Metal fatigue. Bones move and are tougher it seems. Removing that as well to put bone on bone for rebuild to continue. Have to cut a little bit of the fibula to co ordinate everything ( little bone below our knee)
Nice Surgeon booked for Wednesday was happy to suggest Melb Marathon 2020 is a good possibility for me. He felt any distance past the front door insane . My hands are sore from cheering rather than my feet sore from running for 2019 Melb M[biggrin] I jumped back on crutches after the race on Sunday where I did not run and will be on them for a extra 4 weeks.
Running 2020 planning via pool already in progress. The minor pain a re broken leg gave is about 1% of a smashed pelvis which is well reinforced now. Life is good.
Arapiles
17th October 2019, 06:17 PM
Did you run the Melbourne Marathon????
I plan to jog/walk it next year as my first and last marathon.
4bee
17th October 2019, 06:49 PM
Good onyer Diver. Sounds like two paces forward & one back at the mo but you'll get there.:TakeABow:
My 85 yr mother has a pacemaker,she hasn't mentioned any issues with the garage door.
Hhmmmm, maybe someone should explain about the birds & bees to you my son.[biggrin]
NavyDiver
18th October 2019, 08:23 AM
Did you run the Melbourne Marathon????
I plan to jog/walk it next year as my first and last marathon.
Not able to run this year sadly as my hands and voice got very sore cheering everyone else on. Portland, Wang and Lillyadale are best for walking or slower marathons. Melb has a time cut off I think. Why stop at one? A cool 90ish year old gent walks about 10 per year.
4bee
18th October 2019, 08:39 AM
A cool 90ish year old gent walks about 10 per year. *************
C'mon Diver, you might be busy but I can't believe you are that olde.[biggrin][wink11]
NavyDiver
25th October 2019, 09:34 AM
I wonder if the cool running Portland Runners Club watch this thread? My ugly mug appeared on their FB post "
We’re still accepting online entries up till Thursday 31st Oct for the Ultra and Friday 1st Nov for the road events unless they sell out prior. Time to commit. www.portlandrunnersclub.com.au" (http://www.portlandrunnersclub.com.au/?fbclid=IwAR3WLiQ7CSqm9Jn3h2EC0YCNEfmsNYW1RHcb1n_0 tkALfhbUXIAkBwNz_gk)
Noted a big smile on my dial after 42km. So many cool runners to chose from and they used me http://www.coolrunning.com.au/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/smile.png
Laying on the couch for a few days post a nifty bone graft to my tibia. Surgeon said Ill be good for Melbourne 2020 which make my ongoing Portland PB request a certainty for 2020 or full refund from him:)
If your bored or interested I will be on ABC 774 radio on Monday 28/10 at about 8.30 re Royal Melbourne Major Trauma unit who along with others saved my life.
NavyDiver
28th October 2019, 11:50 AM
Thanking Royal Melbourne Hospital this morning.
Dr Rose needed me to point at my shoulder and leg when listing my injury list [biggrin]
ABC 774 Melbourne https://www.abc.net.au/…/james-bishop-thanks-the-r…/11645166 (https://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/mornings/james-bishop-thanks-the-royal-melbourne-hospital-trauma-centre-f/11645166?fbclid=IwAR03HCQfYJ4RfWIhwJ4TvNeow07SKR1x 6K83zpWvdolQBEEiHUnS4_W5kLw)
Homestar
29th October 2019, 12:37 PM
Bugger, missed it! Will listen to it later. [emoji106]
Homestar
29th October 2019, 06:16 PM
Great interview. 👍. You’re a natural on radio - you should have taken Johns job instead of Virginia... 😇😉
Haemodynamic Instability - that’s a new one to me - I’ll have to remember that. 😁
Arapiles
29th October 2019, 08:27 PM
Didn't know about the Royal Melbourne trauma unit - there was a UK TV series where they embedded in the Alfred Hospital road trauma unit and the presenter, who was a doctor, was incredibly impressed. Don't underestimate how world class our medical services are.
NavyDiver
31st October 2019, 07:34 AM
Great interview. 👍. You’re a natural on radio - you should have taken Johns job instead of Virginia... 😇😉
Haemodynamic Instability - that’s a new one to me - I’ll have to remember that. 😁
I work with 4 Doctors. Haemodynamic Instability was a classy way of saying it. I did not get to thank Blood Donors in the interview at that point as we were chuckling about my silly comment of (not) bleeding to death [thumbsupbig] . I did on a thread in here happily thanking blood donors for their blood, time and generosity.
"Haemodynamic instability can be defined as perfusion failure, represented by clinical features of circulatory shock and advanced heart failure (Weil 2005). It may also be defined as 1 or more out-of-range vital sign measurements, such as low blood pressure."
Haemodynamic Instability is the 'result of' my bleeding not the cause of my simple 'not' bleeding to death.
Haemo is ancient Greek as is dynamic. Words are cools as well.
Dr Rose is an extortionary person. Our Major Trauma Units are world class and only thing I did not get to say was all the grumbles about health services are 99% by impatient patients rather than the low percentage of errors many of which are really unavoidable tragedies . The outrage I note some times over non urgent issues not being prioritized contrasted very well to the multiple major surgeries I had in hours and days after a big hit I took. Happy to be a Major Trauma survivor ( Alfred and Royal Melbourne here in Vic)
Dr Rose confided off air she was rather happily surprised I had survived and recovered to have a good chance of my bad habits of running. Very Very Lucky fits me well. If that topic was considered more closely I would need to add surviving huge waves washing me off a ship (HMAS VAmpire NZ 1985), huge sharks which didn't bite, dugites (WA) and tigere's here I did not get bitten by on several occasions and a few other less dramatic issues.
Edit Mia Culpa
Re natural on Radio. While working in Warrnabool I woke up to a 'secret sound' on the radio for a month or two. I finally rang to solve it. 3yb I think. The host said after I spoke " You have a "sexy" (radio) voice. I copped heaps for months :)
4bee
31st October 2019, 07:53 AM
Haemodynamic Instability
I must try & remember to chuck that into Xmas Drinkies conversations providing I am not speaking to one of the Medical Profession. Anyone else will just look puzzled & say"Huh?"
Thanks Diver so all went well then you Media whore?[smilebigeye]
NavyDiver
31st October 2019, 10:41 AM
I must try & remember to chuck that into Xmas Drinkies conversations providing I am not speaking to one of the Medical Profession. Anyone else will just look puzzled & say"Huh?"
Thanks Diver so all went well then you Media whore?[smilebigeye] Nope I guess the secret sound incorrectly but got teased for months [biggrin]
4bee
31st October 2019, 11:53 AM
Reminds me of the time I answered a phone call from a Local Rock Radio Station & asked to guess the "Song" title & name of the band of the just played toon.
For a $1,000. Drum rooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooll. Nope, never even heard it let alone could name it.[biggrin] I mean c'mon. [bawl]
I should have realised that many of my contemporaries would have been listening, they being younger than me. Isn't everybody?[bigsad]
Got the crap taken out of me for weeks but it was all in good fun. Or I think it was. Bastards ![bigsmile1]
RANDLOVER
8th November 2019, 04:37 AM
Diver/James it turns out your accident is so common it actually has a name/acronym SMIDSY "In many of these crashes the driver will say they simply didn’t see the motorcycle until it was too late. (Sorry Mate I Didn’t See You – SMIDSY). Protection from other drivers (SMIDSY) - Motorcycle Council of NSW - Road Safety (https://www.roadsafety.mccofnsw.org.au/a/84.html)
From the radio interview it sounds like you are a marvel of modern medicine.
4bee
8th November 2019, 08:48 AM
Obviously most accidents have different causes but one does wonder whether the colour of M/C protective clothing causes them. ie, Black. It seems only recently that Jackets & Pants have sections of Red stitched into them. Cool, but still not very conspicuous at the speeds they do. More an appearance/fashion thing. One does see the occasional Yellow Hi-Viz over the leathers. I wonder how they fare?
Maybe someone could come up with jackets including LED Disco Chaser lights stitched around the edges Nightrider style. Switch on the ignition & you start flashing all over. No not that sort of flashing, although I reckon some riders would find that alluring.
Of course I am jesting but who knows?[biggrin]
When Diver goes a'riding out with the lads he could get fed up with smart arses saying "Well, hello Sailor"
[smilebigeye]
NavyDiver
8th November 2019, 02:04 PM
Obviously most accidents have different causes but one does wonder whether the colour of M/C protective clothing causes them. ie, Black. It seems only recently that Jackets & Pants have sections of Red stitched into them. Cool, but still not very conspicuous at the speeds they do. More an appearance/fashion thing. One does see the occasional Yellow Hi-Viz over the leathers. I wonder how they fare?
Maybe someone could come up with jackets including LED Disco Chaser lights stitched around the edges Nightrider style. Switch on the ignition & you start flashing all over. No not that sort of flashing, although I reckon some riders would find that alluring.
Of course I am jesting but who knows?[biggrin]
When Diver goes a'riding out with the lads he could get fed up with smart arses saying "Well, hello Sailor"
[smilebigeye]
Funny mate. At 16 I was in Sydney. Returned from a weeks leave to be invited by two girls I knew to come to a "PARTY" it was the mardi gras. Watching with out a clue I did mention I thought some of the cool parade seem to be men dresses as women to the mirth of the two girls I was with. I am not in the least homophobic, I was a big little country boy who had never seen anything like the show. It was funny and happily laughed at myself when finally informed what was going on.
After the mardi gras parade the girls who were 18 took me to a pub on Oxford st. They both went to the loo together asking me to hold their hand bags[biggrin][biggrin][biggrin] I do know a few HELLO Sailors [thumbsupbig] Not my choice or game.
4bee
8th November 2019, 03:28 PM
I trust they walked through the appropriate 'loo doors?[smilebigeye]
4bee
14th November 2019, 10:49 AM
Obviously most accidents have different causes but one does wonder whether the colour of M/C protective clothing causes them. ie, Black. It seems only recently that Jackets & Pants have sections of Red stitched into them. Cool, but still not very conspicuous at the speeds they do. More an appearance/fashion thing. One does see the occasional Yellow Hi-Viz over the leathers. I wonder how they fare?
Maybe someone could come up with jackets including LED Disco Chaser lights stitched around the edges Nightrider style. Switch on the ignition & you start flashing all over. No not that sort of flashing, although I reckon some riders would find that alluring.
Of course I am jesting but who knows?[biggrin]
When Diver goes a'riding out with the lads he could get fed up with smart arses saying "Well, hello Sailor"
[smilebigeye]
Here ya go. What price"Ride to be Seen"
https://www.ebay.com.au/i/181565718519?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=705-139619-5960-0&mkcid=2&itemid=181565718519&targetid=752504814144&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=9070986&poi=&campaignid=7412621919&mkgroupid=80280724785&rlsatarget=pla-752504814144&abcId=1139426&merchantid=116517266&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-fPO-rzo5QIVSQwrCh3QwgKsEAQYBSABEgKC4vD_
or if you prefer a bit of colour
(https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/3528-RGB-5M-300-LEDS-SMD-LED-Strip-Light-12V-Waterproof-IR-Controller/171437728275?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SI M%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160908110712%26meid%3Dc45d447 68c524e6890db1d5e11417d1c%26pid%3D100677%26rk%3D2% 26rkt%3D30%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D181565718519%26itm% 3D171437728275%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2386202&_trksid=p2386202.c100677.m4598)
NavyDiver
5th December 2019, 01:22 PM
I wasn't going to post in this one but what the heck. I do some xrays in two weeks and may be off crutches after that if bone graft to my tibia stuck correctly [thumbsupbig]
Melbourne Marathon 2020 is possibly not what some people would think a good idea for a crippled sailor [biggrin]
I am registered. my group name is "RHM Major Trauma Survivor" - Will be on my running bib rather than Navy Diver for this run.
Any other crazy mugs welcome to join. 9 months is more than enough to get from a couch to 42km ( Shorter events as well)
For the armchair warriors I know of loads of people who have lost 50+kg training then running there first 42km. Speed is not required.
2020 Melbourne Marathon Festival (https://endurancecui.active.com/new/events/66290854/select-race?e4p=880971a9-9a93-4ce9-a9d6-c299c395d0b5&e4ts=1575515305&fbclid=IwAR0LR--njJZM8pN4eHeZIKnoY_XijaMrdZ6pAWAR5ytPG1AcA_yZM2n68 18&e4q=0d7465f4-9d17-4143-88f4-bfa0689ddf67&rf=71651e22cbe644a596895cb2ede9c246&e4c=active&e4e=snawe00000000&e4h=70dfb0cc2daa3088e5b67d0b0647ddd0&ts=F&e4rt=Safetynet&_p=16776375798285836)
Tombie
5th December 2019, 01:25 PM
I’d like to join you (I won’t be though). I will be doing the City to Bay in Adelaide in 2020 though.
Not too shabby for a Guy who has already lost 36kg since September.
NavyDiver
5th December 2019, 01:33 PM
I’d like to join you (I won’t be though). I will be doing the City to Bay in Adelaide in 2020 though.
Not too shabby for a Guy who has already lost 36kg since September.
Your amazing , Enjoy the run. its the celebration of all the hard work your clearly doing. Its only hard at first. 36kgs lighter your will be floating when running the City to Bay[thumbsupbig]
4bee
5th December 2019, 03:50 PM
Melbourne Marathon 2020 is possibly not what some people would think a good idea for a drunken sailor I told you early days you'd be jake & it appears as though you will be. Best wishes.
Tombie.
36 kg? You fat bastard! From past personal experience that would have taken some doing. Well done.[smilebigeye]
NavyDiver
6th March 2020, 04:28 AM
I told you early days you'd be jake & it appears as though you will be. Best wishes.
Tombie.
36 kg? You fat bastard! From past personal experience that would have taken some doing. Well done.[smilebigeye]
Do it to me one more time[bighmmm]
Wasn't able to walk as expected in Feb. It hurt. Bone graft thought to be 75% around my leg was found to be about 50%. MRI or CT scan showed a lot more clearly than xray. Surgeon being a helpful chap fixed the bone graft. He Broke my tibia and fibula while doing that.
First removed a screw in the bone and titanium rod in my Tibia. He cut a escape hatch in the tibia and took the titanium rod out. removed the 50% bone graft. He ground the bone to allow a neat coming back together point where the first bone graft was. That makes my right leg a few mm shorter.
He also ground the inside of the bone to allow him to put in a thicker 16mm titanium rod, it was 13mm. If that sounds spooky you can just imagine he used a bit of oil to make me heavy duty. As the tibia is a bt shorter he also cut the fibula to match the bit removed. He used all the bone scraps to the bone graft on much neater broken leg.
I was supposed to get out after an overnight stay. Surgery was at 17:30 Dr Altay was doing me a favour after hours.
Bleeding a bit to much had the nurse wanting to keep me. Doc came back at 5pm last night and put a few more stitches in so I got home last night.
I got to be one of the first people in Australia to use some biofilm anti microbial products which is used in 200 plus and expanding US hospitals during surgical procedures reducing infection rates by 99%. Company is Australian starting life in US and EU. I managed to sweet talk some from the nice company. Some used during surgery and some on my wound now. I am a lucky bugger as it is not yet sold in Australia.
Surgeons are amazing - I thought a quick patch of the area the bone graft had not worked and got a whole lot more. A bit sore for some reason so sleep is a bit tricky [biggrin]
V8Ian
6th March 2020, 07:21 AM
Keep getting more better, you'll be marathoning in no time.
Homestar
6th March 2020, 08:40 AM
I’d like to join you (I won’t be though). I will be doing the City to Bay in Adelaide in 2020 though.
Not too shabby for a Guy who has already lost 36kg since September.
Nice work! I just yesterday clocked up 30kg lost since mid last year. Still got a bit to go but feel fantastic these days which spurs me on even more. Can’t see a marathon or even fun run on the cards, not my cup of tea but I’m about to buy a new bike - my long suffering old one has had it, so I’m going to lash out and buy the 3rd bike I’ll have owned since I was a kid. First one was a BSA 10 speed which lasted me 20 years and did countless KM. Second one which I’ve just retired was a cheaper one which didn’t cop much abuse during my mid life weight gain, but I’ll be buying something at the lower end of half decent this time which should last me a few years. [emoji106]
Homestar
6th March 2020, 08:43 AM
Do it to me one more time[bighmmm]
Wasn't able to walk as expected in Feb. It hurt. Bone graft thought to be 75% around my leg was found to be about 50%. MRI or CT scan showed a lot more clearly than xray. Surgeon being a helpful chap fixed the bone graft. He Broke my tibia and fibula while doing that.
First removed a screw in the bone and titanium rod in my Tibia. He cut a escape hatch in the tibia and took the titanium rod out. removed the 50% bone graft. He ground the bone to allow a neat coming back together point where the first bone graft was. That makes my right leg a few mm shorter.
He also ground the inside of the bone to allow him to put in a thicker 16mm titanium rod, it was 13mm. If that sounds spooky you can just imagine he used a bit of oil to make me heavy duty. As the tibia is a bt shorter he also cut the fibula to match the bit removed. He used all the bone scraps to the bone graft on much neater broken leg.
I was supposed to get out after an overnight stay. Surgery was at 17:30 Dr Altay was doing me a favour after hours.
Bleeding a bit to much had the nurse wanting to keep me. Doc came back at 5pm last night and put a few more stitches in so I got home last night.
I got to be one of the first people in Australia to use some biofilm anti microbial products which is used in 200 plus and expanding US hospitals during surgical procedures reducing infection rates by 99%. Company is Australian starting life in US and EU. I managed to sweet talk some from the nice company. Some used during surgery and some on my wound now. I am a lucky bugger as it is not yet sold in Australia.
Surgeons are amazing - I thought a quick patch of the area the bone graft had not worked and got a whole lot more. A bit sore for some reason so sleep is a bit tricky [biggrin]
Sounds amazing, and your up beat attitude to all of this is also impressive. Hope you heal quickly and get back to what you love doing. [emoji106]
Tombie
6th March 2020, 09:33 AM
Nice work! I just yesterday clocked up 30kg lost since mid last year. Still got a bit to go but feel fantastic these days which spurs me on even more. Can’t see a marathon or even fun run on the cards, not my cup of tea but I’m about to buy a new bike - my long suffering old one has had it, so I’m going to lash out and buy the 3rd bike I’ll have owned since I was a kid. First one was a BSA 10 speed which lasted me 20 years and did countless KM. Second one which I’ve just retired was a cheaper one which didn’t cop much abuse during my mid life weight gain, but I’ll be buying something at the lower end of half decent this time which should last me a few years. [emoji106]
42kg down now.... [emoji41]
Even taken up a bit of Boxing [emoji106]
Saitch
6th March 2020, 09:35 AM
ND, Homestar and Tombie, you could join forces perhaps, jousting with traffic?
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Tombie
6th March 2020, 09:37 AM
ND, Homestar and Tombie, you could join forces perhaps, jousting with traffic?
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Prefer to use a Sword in traffic [emoji2957]
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200305/cb7b3ba02a0d96ec2399096704643358.jpg
4bee
6th March 2020, 09:58 AM
Surgery was at 17:30 Dr Altay was doing me a favour after hours.
Cash job was it? I thought only Fridgies did those. Have you checked his qualifications Divs, he may have a Tradie background?
Glad to hear of your progress, it is all looking up now.[smilebigeye]
Tombie. Sounds like you are going great guns as well, keep at it.[happycry]
NavyDiver
27th April 2020, 05:18 PM
Enough said is at times saying nothing at all[thumbsupbig]
Hint. Skip to the end. I was very very very indulgent.
https://youtu.be/JelALoMDZto
Roll on 42km recovery run[thumbsupbig]
350RRC
27th April 2020, 05:28 PM
Enough said is at times saying nothing at all[thumbsupbig]
Hint. Skip to the end. I was very very very indulgent.
https://youtu.be/JelALoMDZto
Roll on 42km recovery run[thumbsupbig]
After you get your circulation problem sorted. 👍
Well done! DL
RANDLOVER
28th April 2020, 07:16 AM
That's great progress ND, no crutches and stable enough to walk in socks which can be slippery. Don't ask me how I know, but I have the scar from stitches in one eyebrow to prove it:cry:
NavyDiver
30th June 2021, 11:36 AM
That's great progress ND, no crutches and stable enough to walk in socks which can be slippery. Don't ask me how I know, but I have the scar from stitches in one eyebrow to prove it:cry:
Its is 2 years ago in a few days. Dragging up this old chestnut of post might seem odd. I am a bit of an Addict so forgive me. Out of a bed. Cool. Out of a wheel chair cooler. Off Crutches [thumbsupbig]
Injuries have impacts beside the smashed bones and a few litres of blood. Muscle loss for me was a huge issue. Physio Physio and Bike riding, swimming ........ replacement until thrilled to say a few days ago I jogged a single kilometre. Same day as I launched my boat [thumbsupbig]
The boat in the dark at five/six am was in a mud pool with 50cm of water just a mm or two from making me a diver with a recovery rope again I thought before the sun came up[thumbsupbig] The next day I jogged at 8kph for 5km in three parts. The next day I ran a bit faster for 5km and did it again at 5am this morning
Not just able to go fishing. Sorry ladies and gent my sweaty panting grinning scrawny body is back on the road. Despite my waffle, I am finally confident I will be one of the rude runners closing roads for marathons all over Australia and especially Melbourne, Traralgon, Portland and Wangaratta so a special apology for people in those areas who have missed me for the last two years[biggrin]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEqDKq_GkJE
NavyDiver
5th July 2021, 02:33 PM
Happy anniversary to me and my motley crew! 38 years ago today as a 15 year old I joined the Navy. Two years ago today I joined cats in getting nine lives[biggrin]
Ran 10km to celebrate [thumbsupbig]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3u1kvxQvI
cripesamighty
5th July 2021, 02:36 PM
That’s a long hard road to recover from those injuries. Well done!
V8Ian
5th July 2021, 02:50 PM
Two years! How time flies when you're having fun.
It's remarkable how character and attitude aid recovery from what to some would be catastrophic. Well done James.
4bee
5th July 2021, 03:04 PM
Happy anniversary to me and my motley crew! 38 years ago today as a 15 year old I joined the Navy. Two years ago today I joined cats in getting nine lives[biggrin]
Ran 10km to celebrate [thumbsupbig]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w3u1kvxQvI
G
Good onyer Dude.:TakeABow::TakeABow::TakeABow::TakeABow::arms :
But Jesuz you know how to really scare a bloke. When this thread opened on my screen & I saw that greasy looking long haired layabout ^ ^ ^ I was momentarily shocked. No really.
I thought, (for a split second) if that is what coming a gutser of ones sickle does to you...... Then I realised that it wasn't you after all. Pffffffffeeeeeeewwwwwwww.
10 km? That is a bit risky Cap'n, you could have got yourself tangled up in some clown's speeding MC.
For those without a S o H this was a jokey thing, OK?[bigrolf]
RANDLOVER
8th July 2021, 06:14 AM
Happy anniversary to me and my motley crew! 38 years ago today as a 15 year old I joined the Navy. Two years ago today I joined cats in getting nine lives[biggrin]Ran 10km to celebrate [thumbsupbig]
Well done on your recovery, hard to believe it has been two years. Your recovery from the Navy might take a bit longer. [biggrin]
NavyDiver
21st February 2022, 08:14 AM
Whoops I did it again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CduA0TULnow
177120 My speed guide
177121The cheer squad First pass all the cows were all over the paddock. They lined up for the next three times clearly interested in the nuts running along the lane [biggrin]
177122 The start at 6:50 am. Tonga's volcanoe still making sun rise amazing for us.
177123 30 minutes faster than Melb Marathon Nov 2021. Only need to go one and a half hour fast to get back to my target pace and times[bigwhistle]
First time ever I was last in my age group. Give myself a break on time for a few more months broken bone and lost of muscles still to be rebuilt on the titanium reinforcements in my body[biggrin]
I wasn't last[bigwhistle] Next in a month at Wangaratta. A day or two of walking then back to recovery training for this back duck. Going to change my name tag at Marathons from Navy Diver to I woz or Former Or EX [biggrin] A ex army recon man whose Tee shirt said "WE LIKE TO WATCH" was faster then I am now[bawl] Promise to kick his butt by the end of 2022[bigrolf]
Each step is making me stronger and faster- It does the same for you-[B] Off the couch Ladies and Gents - I may be slow but I am not dead yet[biggrin]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdcTmpvDO0I
V8Ian
21st February 2022, 09:04 AM
Good on ya, James. :BigThumb:
NavyDiver
24th February 2022, 01:30 PM
Good on ya, James. :BigThumb:
Recovery party last night Ian [thumbsupbig] Mika and I ran 10km. She felt the roos were interesting. It was too dark to get a pic of the three platypus, Tawny frog mouth or the kookaburras laughing at us[biggrin] I even over took a runner or two for fun[bigrolf]
177195 She is keen as mustard for the first 5km. Then she knuckles down and keeps up for the rest panting less than I do.
Roverlord off road spares
24th February 2022, 05:30 PM
Not a sympathy post- Loving life
I am:
1-very very very lucky to be alive-
2-very very very lucky to be likely to have a full recovery
Had to met my son to pay the dentist. Jumped on my bike. Its racing machine Honda CBR 600 1999 - I ride it fast in first gear then back off as I like my license[thumbsupbig]
At front left lane of three lanes at a red light. I could see several km of clear roads with not a single car. Green Light. about 2 seconds late I was doing 80kph about 100m in front of all the cars behind me. A car stuck more than his nose out into the left lane. The driver then saw me and look horrified. I swerved very hard to the middle lane. The very old driver of the car moved into the middle lane[wink11] His shocked expresion was still looking at me and his hands had not turned his steering wheel and were as frozen as the shock on his face. I was braking and still moving hard right .......... His car stopped still in the right lane across the entire lane. He had not tried to travel down any of the three lanes which did catch me
Back of his car, bonnet or verg then trees to kill me? I hit the bonnet
Came to 20m down the road a very broken man. I could see the old man standing by his car still in the same possition- He is ok.
The damage:
Broken Right leg
Smashed pelvis and hip
Punctured lung
Broken right arm at the sholder
Broken ribs
Spine T1 and T2
A few minor facial fractures
A few litres of blood lost
Royal Melb operations
Friday 5/7 CT giuded angiogram sealing all bleeding (I was wake Very cooL)
Saturday 6 /7 Rod joined broken right leg
Tuesday 9/7 Pelvis, hip and shoulder fixed
Pain prior to Tuesday Operation the pain was close to unbearable. I was rolled over by amazing caring nurses every 4 hours with the same unbelievable pain every time. Heavy duty drugs via a magic button I could push every five minutes only masked the agony.
12 hours late I was aware they were rolling me and expecting the PAIN. not a bit hit. 4 hours late ditto[thumbsupbig]
I am now in Rehab. No pain at all, No drugs at all. Add I can weight bare on my repaired right leg. Every day I do new things I took entirely fir granted before the crash. Each one is kicking a goal.
Lucky I am not dead, lucky I did not add the brain to the list. Spine is good, face is great- Not allowed to blow my nose for another week[bigsmile] Lung puncture resolved it self. Might miss the Melbourne Marathon this year. Just this once. Anyone else think Incisor might need to change me from ChatterBox to Very Very Lucky?
my senario was riding at sunrise , Hume hwy Tarcutta Nsw, came over a ridge and sun hit me in eyes momentary blindness , hit a patch of gravel and ended lying on the road. a semi behind me swerved around me and cb the next truck to pick me up, dislocated thumb and badly swollen knee.
the 2nd time going to work rode down hill in bridge road Richmond pouring rain as i went through the Church street intersection , the back wheel skidded on the tram track , i went flying and slid down Bridge road and ended up if front of the Richmond police station, apart from that , there were media next door and police presence at the council offices because there were threats made. l was wearing a holster with a 38 special under my jacket. i was surround by police and they took me into the station for a cuppa to calm my nerves. l had a nice bruise from the cylinder on the revolver on my hip.
i gave up bikes after that.
stuarth44
10th April 2025, 10:21 AM
Not a sympathy post- Loving life
I am:
1-very very very lucky to be alive-
2-very very very lucky to be likely to have a full recovery
Had to met my son to pay the dentist. Jumped on my bike. Its racing machine Honda CBR 600 1999 - I ride it fast in first gear then back off as I like my license[thumbsupbig]
At front left lane of three lanes at a red light. I could see several km of clear roads with not a single car. Green Light. about 2 seconds late I was doing 80kph about 100m in front of all the cars behind me. A car stuck more than his nose out into the left lane. The driver then saw me and look horrified. I swerved very hard to the middle lane. The very old driver of the car moved into the middle lane[wink11] His shocked expresion was still looking at me and his hands had not turned his steering wheel and were as frozen as the shock on his face. I was braking and still moving hard right .......... His car stopped still in the right lane across the entire lane. He had not tried to travel down any of the three lanes which did catch me
Back of his car, bonnet or verg then trees to kill me? I hit the bonnet
Came to 20m down the road a very broken man. I could see the old man standing by his car still in the same possition- He is ok.
The damage:
Broken Right leg
Smashed pelvis and hip
Punctured lung
Broken right arm at the sholder
Broken ribs
Spine T1 and T2
A few minor facial fractures
A few litres of blood lost
Royal Melb operations
Friday 5/7 CT giuded angiogram sealing all bleeding (I was wake Very cooL)
Saturday 6 /7 Rod joined broken right leg
Tuesday 9/7 Pelvis, hip and shoulder fixed
Pain prior to Tuesday Operation the pain was close to unbearable. I was rolled over by amazing caring nurses every 4 hours with the same unbelievable pain every time. Heavy duty drugs via a magic button I could push every five minutes only masked the agony.
12 hours late I was aware they were rolling me and expecting the PAIN. not a bit hit. 4 hours late ditto[thumbsupbig]
I am now in Rehab. No pain at all, No drugs at all. Add I can weight bare on my repaired right leg. Every day I do new things I took entirely fir granted before the crash. Each one is kicking a goal.
Lucky I am not dead, lucky I did not add the brain to the list. Spine is good, face is great- Not allowed to blow my nose for another week[bigsmile] Lung puncture resolved it self. Might miss the Melbourne Marathon this year. Just this once. Anyone else think Incisor might need to change me from ChatterBox to Very Very Lucky?
so sorry fella, how are you now
I rode my k1200gt bmw around USA IN 2013, 14000km in 6 weeks, super defensive, started riding in 67.
hope you are ok now
V8Ian
10th April 2025, 02:04 PM
Wow! Almost six years ago James, how time flies when we're having fun. [biggrin]
NavyDiver
11th April 2025, 07:14 AM
so sorry fella, how are you now
I rode my k1200gt bmw around USA IN 2013, 14000km in 6 weeks, super defensive, started riding in 67.
hope you are ok now
Running Marathons and creating chaos in bike again now thank you. Ian's on the money- Time flys.
Fully agree Defensive riding/driving is important. Rehabilition is a key for recovery for all of us for any injury or illness. I love moving so Rehab was fun.
I did ride my BMW K100 RS more than around Australia yet not over the top.. When in the USA and Canada I enjoyed a chat or ten and was kindly given time riding some amazing bike in both Canada and the USA. Short rides only alas.
1967 was a great year for both of us for differing reason [thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig][thumbsupbig]
R U Ok is a cool thing to do with family friends and everyone we see.
Thank you for your question.:BigThumb:
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