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4xsama
22nd July 2019, 08:37 PM
Hi All,

apologies out of the way first;

1) Could be the wrong section of the forum, and,
2) Terminology will be terrible

Anyhoo - I'm after a component to plug into my Yamaha amp/JBL's which will allow me to stream through the amp. Bonus points for any other features. I have no idea what I'm looking for. Prefer not to spend an arm and a leg too.

Cheers,

Andrew

Homestar
23rd July 2019, 06:32 AM
My Marantz amp from about 10 years ago has a module that plugged into it for Bluetooth. What model/age is your amp?

4xsama
23rd July 2019, 06:56 AM
My Marantz amp from about 10 years ago has a module that plugged into it for Bluetooth. What model/age is your amp?

Its a 20yo Yamaha amp. The back has a heap of analogue points - no digital. The amp was new around the time Dolby Surround (6 channel) came in.

Homestar
23rd July 2019, 07:09 AM
Here we go - Bluetooth to RCA - Bluetooth Audio Adapter for Music Streaming Sound System, esinkin W29-us Wireless Audio Adapter Works with Smart Phones and Tablets, Wireless Adapter for Speakers: Amazon.com.au: Computers & Accessories (https://www.amazon.com.au/Bluetooth-Adapter-Streaming-Wireless-Speakers/dp/B016NUTG5K/ref=asc_df_B016NUTG5K/'tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341743940079&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=866329317362964831&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071482&hvtargid=pla-523770557921&psc=1)

Bung that into one of your spare inputs, pair your device to this little critter and you’ll be away.

p38arover
23rd July 2019, 08:50 AM
I think I'll get one of those for myself and another for my daughter (she has my old Harmon Kardon system and Wharfedale speakers).

Homestar
23rd July 2019, 09:55 AM
Have just ordered one myself as well. Will do some testing of frequency range and dynamic response between streamed music versus uncompressed when it arrives - just out of interest as I've set up my old Hifi system and it leaves my new higher end system for dead when playing records or CD's.

cjc_td5
23rd July 2019, 10:07 AM
I have one very similar to this.

Bluetooth(R) 4.1 Transmitter & Receiver | Jaycar Electronics (https://www.jaycar.com.au/bluetooth-4-1-transmitter-receiver/p/AA2104)

Works great for what I want it for. I use it between a few older stereos around the house for bluetooth input functionality.

Homestar
23rd July 2019, 10:41 AM
I have one very similar to this.

Bluetooth(R) 4.1 Transmitter & Receiver | Jaycar Electronics (https://www.jaycar.com.au/bluetooth-4-1-transmitter-receiver/p/AA2104)

Works great for what I want it for. I use it between a few older stereos around the house for bluetooth input functionality.

That's very similar to what I have on my Marantz unit but my old NAD pre amp is waaaaaay before HDMI was ever thought of so need RCA output.

p38arover
23rd July 2019, 12:44 PM
Here we go - Bluetooth to RCA - Bluetooth Audio Adapter for Music Streaming Sound System, esinkin W29-us Wireless Audio Adapter Works with Smart Phones and Tablets, Wireless Adapter for Speakers: Amazon.com.au: Computers & Accessories (https://www.amazon.com.au/Bluetooth-Adapter-Streaming-Wireless-Speakers/dp/B016NUTG5K/ref=asc_df_B016NUTG5K/'tag=googleshopdsk-22&linkCode=df0&hvadid=341743940079&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=866329317362964831&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=t&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9071482&hvtargid=pla-523770557921&psc=1)

Bung that into one of your spare inputs, pair your device to this little critter and you’ll be away.

I just found that it's also sold under the Logitech brand for twice as much.

Homestar
24th July 2019, 12:59 PM
Have received the unit I linked earlier - easy to use and works well. Very small and can be stuck to the back of the hifi so it’s out of the way. Comes with power adaptor and RCA lead so ready to go.

p38arover
24th July 2019, 01:43 PM
I have 2 on the way.

I will no longer have to listen to radio in the garage, I can hook this up to my sound system in there and stream from my iPhone. :)

I can't stand advertising (no, I can't stand Triple J so I don't listen to it, either).

cjc_td5
24th July 2019, 02:12 PM
That's very similar to what I have on my Marantz unit but my old NAD pre amp is waaaaaay before HDMI was ever thought of so need RCA output.Thats not a HDMI port its a USB port for charging the internal battery. It has a 3.5mm stereo plug input/output. I just use a lead from this that has a 3.5mm plug on one end and RCA on the other.

Don 130
24th July 2019, 07:19 PM
Use Apple Airport to broadcast via wi-fi to either the amp in the house (early 80's Luxman) or to the amp in the shed, 60 metres away, or both. I can do that from music files on any computer or the phone in my pocket. I also have control of volume.
Don.

Homestar
24th July 2019, 08:03 PM
I have 2 on the way.

I will no longer have to listen to radio in the garage, I can hook this up to my sound system in there and stream from my iPhone. :)

I can't stand advertising (no, I can't stand Triple J so I don't listen to it, either).

That’s the only station I do listen to. Have been for 30 years. I’m hardly the target demographic any more, but I still like the music they play compared to the commercial stations top 40 rubbish.

On the weekends I’ll have 2 or 3 radios on at once all tuned into the J’s - One in the garage, one or 2 elsewhere in the house so I can hear it everywhere I go. 👍

p38arover
24th July 2019, 09:41 PM
I used to listen to Double J when it first started (remember Lex Marinos?) but these days I can't stand their announcers nor a lot of their music.

4xsama
28th July 2019, 08:59 AM
I have come up with an interim alternative. I hooked a Samsung tablet up through the 3.5mm jack and into the Phono in at the back of the amp. Works OK but the sound is a bit muddy - no higher and not a lot of mid range sound through the speakers.

Amp is a Yamaha RX-V660. Speakers are JBL TLX-18's.

Could it be the tablet doesn't have enough power to send an accurate signal to an amp or is the Phono (CD input too for that matter) processing the input differently.

I can get OK sound but the bass is wound right back and the treble way up.

Homestar
28th July 2019, 09:19 AM
MP3’s or whatever the latest compressed audio codec is will never get the same amount of dynamic range as uncompressed media like records or CD’s. I did some tests on mine and playing the exact same song through the same system - one from CD and one from my tablet through the Bluetooth and the sound is chalk and cheese - we get used to hearing the muck we are listening to that we download and it simply doesn’t sound as good - you don’t need to be an audiophile to notice it. When you go back to uncompressed sources you notice a huge difference. I only did the other week for the first time in ages as I dragged my old system out and got it running - playing a CD through it sounds bloody brilliant in comparison to any streamed stuff through any of my systems or devices, and it it isn't a high end system either - all stuff from the 80's or earlier.

First pic is the streamed file, second is a CD of the same song at the same point. Don't need to be a rocket scientist to see - or hear the difference. [smilebigeye]

4xsama
28th July 2019, 10:28 AM
MP3’s or whatever the latest compressed audio codec is will never get the same amount of dynamic range as uncompressed media like records or CD’s.

I think you hit the nail on the head.

Homestar
28th July 2019, 10:59 AM
Yeah, since the other weekend I’ve dusted all my CD’s off and have been playing them. My Son popped over the other day and I was playing one - he even said that sounded brilliant but did proceed to tell me I’m still an old fart...

loanrangie
28th July 2019, 04:49 PM
The only other station I listen to is pbs especially Thursday evening for fang it.

p38arover
29th July 2019, 01:08 PM
Received two today.

Guess what.

One of the plug-packs is faulty so one doesn't work. Gaahh!

Homestar
29th July 2019, 01:25 PM
That could only ever happen to you Ron. How many black cats have you run over in your time?

p38arover
29th July 2019, 02:05 PM
At least Amazon make returns very easy.

Fattima
29th July 2019, 04:50 PM
The only other station I listen to is pbs especially Thursday evening for fang it.
If you see a red FG XR6 ute with a Fang It sticker on the back around your neck of the wood it's most likely me!