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bulldog2004
24th July 2019, 05:07 PM
defender have right to park how they see fit leave us alone

Grandad hit with ‘trivial’ parking fine vows to go to jail instead of paying (https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/grandad-refuses-to-pay-unfair-ticket-imposed-by-bully-council/news-story/796805d4ce675391cb0979e162432dca)

Old Farang
24th July 2019, 07:37 PM
I hope that I can still drive my Land Rover when I am 89 years old!
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Man outraged over $281 fine for 'untidyparking'

https://au.news.yahoo.com/man-outraged-over-281-find-for-untidy-parking-081753020.html

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An elderly man has hit out at a council for issuing an ‘unfair’ parking fine after his Land Rover was seen creeping over the white lines in a car park.Roger Murray was at the Macclesfield multi-storey towns centre car park in England when he was slapped with the $281 ticket for “untidy parking”.

Bigbjorn
24th July 2019, 08:11 PM
A totally unreasonable fine. That spot is too narrow for anything except a geriatric scooter. FCS, Land Rovers are a skinny car and it doesn't fit. I wonder how a friend would fare. He has a 1976 Cadillac Biarritz. His pride and joy and the last of the big cruisers. It won't fit in the slots at his local Coles/K Mart. He parks across two slots so the doors can be opened and passengers get in and out.

4bee
24th July 2019, 08:49 PM
Ridiculous! Maybe Council should fine themselves for having an untidy Carpark?


You have no doubt heard the phrases "A Pom in a peak cap. Jobsworths"? Well, now you know.[biggrin]

DiscoMick
25th July 2019, 09:02 AM
Oops, I'm guilty of worse than that.
It is true many spaces are so narrow that, even if parked between the lines, it can be impossible to open the doors without hitting the other vehicle.

d2dave
25th July 2019, 09:10 AM
Absolute crap. He has parked that perfectly.

If councils here bought in a similar law they would make a fortune, judging by what I see every time I go to the mall.

4bee
25th July 2019, 09:37 AM
Obviously the parking sticker licker needs some common sense but what about his "Superiors"? Do they not notice how ridiculous that is & would be a waste of Council time & effort to pursue it?

Maybe it was a "Parking Infringement Enforcement Contractor" employed by council?

Even so! Common sense & Public Relations seems to have had a day off. [bighmmm][bawl]

Homestar
25th July 2019, 01:28 PM
These guys better watch out.

Must be a Defender thing?..

***runs away and ducks for cover*** 😇

4bee
25th July 2019, 02:35 PM
And also speaking of untidy. Those guys would get life.[smilebigeye]

VladTepes
25th July 2019, 02:51 PM
Go grandad !

Chenz
25th July 2019, 04:05 PM
The problem begins with car park operators trying to use the absolute smallest space size which has been designated by some book worm pen pushing traffic engineer to maximize the profits they can get out of the extra couple of spaces. I beat a parking fine which was imposed because my rear spare tyre was hanging over the minuscule space line they had painted on the road in my old 110. I went to court and the magistrate looked at the Council rep shook his head and dismissed the charge and no fine was imposed

Spaces should should be designed and installed to fit larger cars as well. Tell him to take it all the way and shame them on the way he has been treated.

DoubleChevron
25th July 2019, 04:59 PM
They are doing the best to completely screw the parking in Ballarat too. Last time I parked down the street I found they have removed a heap of parallel parks and installed trees in there places ............. along with making the access to the remaining parks very difficult.

I must have spoken out aloud when I spotted how hard the parks were to get into ( along the lines of "who is the ****wit that designed this ****" ). I simply drove my ****box 4wd up and over all the gutters and paved areas and into the park... The laughter I heard I'm guessing is others agreeing with me [bighmmm]

Our council is desperate to kill off the city center and has been for years. You see big business intersets seems to run the council over the last 15years. So they desperately try to make the city center horrendous to deal with so people will drive to the big businesses built around town (ie: the big shopping centers).

seeya,
Shane L.

DiscoMick
25th July 2019, 09:49 PM
This story is an example of why I try to back the Defender into tight spaces, so I can have a couple of goes at getting it straight between the lines.
I remember one day I parked outside Coles next to a woman with a teenage boy who was getting out of her shiny expensive BMW. I was parked between the lines and the window was down.
"You can't park there - you'll scratch my car opening your door, " she said, or something similar.
Knowing my park was perfectly legal, I slowly opened my door, got out without my door touching her car, gave her an 'Up yours' grin and wave, and wandered off. I could see her kid smirking behind her back. Poor kid, to have to suffer a mother like that. [emoji53]

4bee
26th July 2019, 09:53 AM
Mick, it would have been a very different story if your door had got a mind of it's own & opened.

"Murder on Main Street" perchance?[smilebigeye]

I would have thought in this day & age with all this enforcement crap, there would be National Minimum Standards for parking space dimensions no matter where it is?


Maybe I'm just dreaming?[bigsad]

vnx205
26th July 2019, 10:12 AM
Comments about the size of parking spaces have reminded me of something I have noticed lately about underground carparks.

I have never seen a concrete pillar in a carpark without scratches and paint from car panels. The mind boggles at how many cars there must be showing corresponding scars.

4bee
26th July 2019, 10:17 AM
Yep, they can paint those columns all the colours of the rainbow as well, but why do they commence the painted lines right at the base of the column instead of away from it to give the drivers a fighting chance?[bigsad]

DiscoMick
26th July 2019, 10:24 AM
I had to park the son's Kia Carnival, which is LOOONG, in the car park at the new Northern Beaches Hospital in Sydney a couple of weeks ago, when the ninth grandchild was being born. The space in there are very tight. It took several goes each time. I parked rear in so the reversing camera would warn me about bumping, plus it was easier to get out going forwards. One time I barely missed scraping a flash Porsche. The car parks seem to be designed for Mazda 2s, not larger vehicles.

Homestar
26th July 2019, 12:20 PM
I drive a Hilux with bull bar on it and find myself in the city quite a bit - I park in multi story car parks regularly and always back in - the revering camera shows exactly where the back of the vehicle is and I put it as far back as I can but the front always sticks out around 600mm in front of the front line. So far no one that I know of has cleaned up the bull bar on the way past. [emoji56]

bsperka
26th July 2019, 12:59 PM
How does one park a Bentley there old chap?
As an aside: I saw a Bentley in a Brisbane car park. Left and right wheels on both lines of the parking spot (reasonably generous width). One side had a wall, the other side a Patrol, so old mate couldn't get the Bentley out.

Homestar
26th July 2019, 01:20 PM
One would park their Bentley somewhere else one would think. Maybe with some of these - plenty of room here...
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Lunch at Duttons today - alas can't afford anything here but they are happy for slobs like me to have a coffee and drool...

Old Farang
26th July 2019, 01:27 PM
I was not going to post this, but as there are other comments:

Where I am in Bangkok most of the shopping center carparks have disabled bays. But it does not deter these ignorant ******! On several occasions I have come back to my car(and I have a disabled sticker and am 74 years old) only to find that I cannot open ANY door enough to get in the car. Then there are the ones that park their car across in front of a car in the disabled bay. They usually leave the car out of gear and the handbrake off, but not always.

Several months ago I was attacked in a disabled bay by a 30 something year old Chinese woman driving a Mini Cooper that she literally side slid into the disabled bay while I was putting my shopping in my car. I chipped her about it but she just ignored me and stalked off. After unloading the shopping trolley I put it near too, but NOT touching her drivers side door. She came back just as I was hobbling back to my car, grabbed the shopping trolley and rammed it into me! But that was not the end of it. She then attacked me as I tried to get into the Land Rover, reached inside the drivers door and grabbed the keys out of the ignition.

The useless police were called and eventually we had to go to the local police station, where one of senior cops virtually told her to **** off. My hand was cut when she grabbed the keys and had to have first aid treatment, but that was overlooked. She was demanding 50,000 Baht(about $2,250) to "repair" the unmarked door paint that only she could see!

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4bee
26th July 2019, 04:37 PM
I drive a Hilux with bull bar on it and find myself in the city quite a bit - I park in multi story car parks regularly and always back in - the revering camera shows exactly where the back of the vehicle is and I put it as far back as I can but the front always sticks out around 600mm in front of the front line. So far no one that I know of has cleaned up the bull bar on the way past. [emoji56]



I wonder if said Bull Bar scares the **** out of passing drivers so they give you a wide berth?[bigsmile1]

I think you would know if they had.


OF. Disabled Spaces seem to be fair game for lazy inconsiderate sods. Sometimes they hang a Permit from the Mirror & sometimes not.
When I have a moan, 'er indoors always tells me that a disability is not always visible. Inevitably she is probably right.[bigsad]

DiscoMick
26th July 2019, 08:27 PM
I was not going to post this, but as there are other comments:

Where I am in Bangkok most of the shopping center carparks have disabled bays. But it does not deter these ignorant ******! On several occasions I have come back to my car(and I have a disabled sticker and am 74 years old) only to find that I cannot open ANY door enough to get in the car. Then there are the ones that park their car across in front of a car in the disabled bay. They usually leave the car out of gear and the handbrake off, but not always.

Several months ago I was attacked in a disabled bay by a 30 something year old Chinese woman driving a Mini Cooper that she literally side slid into the disabled bay while I was putting my shopping in my car. I chipped her about it but she just ignored me and stalked off. After unloading the shopping trolley I put it near too, but NOT touching her drivers side door. She came back just as I was hobbling back to my car, grabbed the shopping trolley and rammed it into me! But that was not the end of it. She then attacked me as I tried to get into the Land Rover, reached inside the drivers door and grabbed the keys out of the ignition.

The useless police were called and eventually we had to go to the local police station, where one of senior cops virtually told her to **** off. My hand was cut when she grabbed the keys and had to have first aid treatment, but that was overlooked. She was demanding 50,000 Baht(about $225) to "repair" the unmarked door paint that only she could see!Not fun. At least it wasn't a tuk tuk driver high on ya ba. Did the cops seek a bribe?

Old Farang
26th July 2019, 08:53 PM
Not fun. At least it wasn't a tuk tuk driver high on ya ba. Did the cops seek a bribe?
I'm sure that they had it well in mind! Fortunately one of the lady managers that speaks perfect English would not let them near me. She also came to the police station with me to make sure they did not try and force me. [bigsmile]

DiscoMick
26th July 2019, 09:19 PM
That was good of her.

AndyG
21st August 2019, 02:37 PM
I suspect those that design parking spaces, design multi story apartments in Sydney in their of days.

If this draft standard was implemented, it would address most issues
Its 10 years old, so maybe it has been, but ignored.153663

Blknight.aus
21st August 2019, 06:15 PM
wait till you're trying to put a 6x6 into a melbourne car park.....

the tray just sits on the lines (sometimes) and because the tray is wider than the body I can always open the door enough to get in and out....

Fun....

some pootrol and toymota owners hate it when it gets in under the 2.1m clearance signs..