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Homestar
28th July 2019, 04:09 PM
Well, to start with don’t get your hopes up of too many updates in the near future, but I have decided to keep my 1998 CBR1000F and get it back on the road in all it’s former glory! It has been languishing at the side of the house in the weather for many years slowly deteriorating and it was either sell it for almost nothing as a fixer up, or do just that myself then I’ll decide what is to happen with it later.

With the help of number 1 Son today, It made it to a nice dry area where I can begin the resto - into the front room of the house now I have that tidied up a bit. Still have a few things to put away but it will be my ‘man cave’ with just a few things in it - my Pinball machine, Dads old wing back chair, my 1980’s stereo and my bike. Who knows, when it’s done, I might knock the front window out of the house and put a sliding door there so I can use the front room as a permanent bike garage and have easy access in and out to go riding. 👍

So a couple of pics to start with. Plenty needs doing, the pics don’t show how bad it is but all new paint and decals, seat, all the steering headstock, etc needs re anodising, new brakes, tyres, etc and a good clean up. Might even stick a new timing chain in it as it’s got the obligatory chain rattle when cold although this doesn’t effect performance too much. It has just under 100,000KM on it.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48393266372_afdd1e3e86_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2gJm96A)C7B92F30-BCCA-4FA4-9050-D43F6BEE5604 (https://flic.kr/p/2gJm96A) by Gavin Gregory (https://www.flickr.com/photos/150806513@N06/), on Flickr

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Tombie
28th July 2019, 04:32 PM
Nice. They are a decent machine.

Is the plan a true restoration or an enhanced build?

loanrangie
28th July 2019, 04:43 PM
Doesn't look too bad Gav.

Pedro_The_Swift
28th July 2019, 05:05 PM
typical 4 across big bore honda,, 100 thou and still going great...,,

any more pics of the Pinny? [bigwhistle][bighmmm]

Homestar
28th July 2019, 05:10 PM
Nice. They are a decent machine.

Is the plan a true restoration or an enhanced build?

True resto. I don’t need any more power and I like the way it looks, so it will just be the best example of the model I can make it. 👍

Homestar
28th July 2019, 05:12 PM
Doesn't look too bad Gav.

It’s not diabolical by any means. It still starts and runs fine, as Pedro says, these inline Honda 4’s go forever. Just needs a lot of TLC so will start at the bottom and work my way up.

Homestar
28th July 2019, 05:12 PM
any more pics of the Pinny? [bigwhistle][bighmmm]

Hang 10... 😁

Homestar
28th July 2019, 05:21 PM
Ok, already off topic but happy to oblige as I’m the king of going off topic. 👍. 1981 Williams ‘Black Knight’. A big leap forward back in the day and was the first machine with synthesised voice and the first machine introduced with ‘Magna Save’ feature. Multi level, multi ball machine. Still works although has some bugs that need ironing out - mostly power supply and switch matrix issues. All fixable and just something else for my ‘to do’ list. Have had it nearly 30 years. When I played it a lot, I could keep a game going almost indefinitely. I usually gave up of boredom after an hour or so, I could clock it almost every time I stepped up to it, but I still love it after all these years. Other things have come and gone but my pinny is still there. 👍

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grey_ghost
28th July 2019, 06:04 PM
Isn’t Black Knight into Land Rovers... Lol

goingbush
28th July 2019, 06:13 PM
That bike it a bit modern to be doing a resto on, or am I getting old. Looking through some pictures & saw my old 750FD BolDor which sold the weekend after the Trading Post came out , when I decided to give bikes up after falling over with my wife on as pillion. Not my fault , a contact lens fell out & I'm blind in the other eye. The Trading post was a good read !

Homestar
28th July 2019, 06:19 PM
It’s 21 years old with 100,000KM on it so certainly due a spruce up. Hard to tell from the pics but the paint is badly faded on the tank, and it needs plenty doing to it. There is quite a bit of aluminium that the anodising had started to come off. I could stick some brakes and tyres on it and keep going but I haven’t ridden it in years and it’s no good as is and I like working on bikes and haven’t done so for quite a while. Given that it’s in a nice warm room now working on it in the evenings will be a comfortable way of doing things. 😊

Pickles2
29th July 2019, 07:08 AM
G'Day Gav, it certainly doesn't look too bad to me, but I never judge anything from a color photo which can "hide" so much stuff, I've not had much experience with bikes, but I have with cars where I've seen color photos which make the subject item out to be more or less "showroom", whereas in the flesh it can be "a little bit" different.
Never owned a bike myself, but when I was about to get my license the "gun" bike was the Triumph Bonneville, 650cc, dual Amals, &....44BHP!
Do you remember the Triumph Thunderbird that Marlon Brando rode in "The Wild One"?....a great movie I thought!
Pickles.

Homestar
29th July 2019, 03:56 PM
Here's a few pics showing some closer shots of what it looks like. Once all the fairings are off, I'll take a bunch more. Basically it is showing its age and as it needs a RWC at some point when I get it registered, I might as well make it the best I can. I think in reality the only RWC failure points are brake discs front and back, seat ripped, throttle sticky, exhaust pipes. The last one could be interesting as I have to find a set of factory pipes for the roady... Guess I'll be scouring the wreckers but not sure what my chances of finding a set are. I may need to borrow some to get it back on the road...[bigwhistle]

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Some quite thin brakes.
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This shows how badly the paint has faded on the top of the tank.
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p38arover
29th July 2019, 10:29 PM
I'll follow this. I sometimes regret selling my CBR1000F

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Pickles2
30th July 2019, 06:35 AM
What power do these things make, at what RPM?
Pickles.

p38arover
30th July 2019, 06:51 AM
What power do these things make, at what RPM?
Pickles.

Here are the dyno curves for my CBR1000F overlaid with the curves from my Suzuki GS850G

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Homestar
30th July 2019, 06:57 AM
When new around 135HP @ around 9,000 RPM. Around 110 at the back wheel. Not sure how many ponies mines lost but it still goes fine. It’s pretty heavy at 270Kg wet weight but even with my fat arse on it, it’s a pretty quick point to point tourer and can eat up the miles in a hurray and is pretty comfortable compared to a sports bike. Not what you’d call a fast bike by any stretch but ample grunt when you get the revs up and it always made me smile like a lunatic when I did this. 😇

6 speed box makes for lazy RPM at highway speeds but this does mean changing down several gears if you want to get it to party. 6th is actually a bit too tall at legal speeds here in Australia and sitting on 100 I generally wouldn’t even pull top. At around 140 to 160 it cruises beautifully in top (apparently) 😇

One of the reasons I stopped riding it was because most people don’t seem to have much of a sense of humour about such things any more, so will have to think long and hard before I get back on it.

Pedro_The_Swift
30th July 2019, 08:12 AM
Hey Gav,,

for your viewing pleasure[thumbsupbig]

https://sternpinball.com/game/black-knight/?fbclid=IwAR3mqHm1xurvmgbJ5mi4GMdEvofBgL56SDb5drjq W7z8Ybdq734tpguGz_Q


Stern Pinball - The Making of Black Knight: Sword of Rage Pinball! | Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/videos/2324786561067080/'t=464)

Homestar
30th July 2019, 08:49 AM
Looks like a great machine but seems a bit weird having the Stern name on it, but they're the only ones left so at least they are still doing their thing. Might have to see what I can land one for. [emoji56]. The second machine - Black Knight 2000 can be had for not too much these days, so maybe I need to make a set out of them...

Pickles2
30th July 2019, 11:47 AM
When new around 135HP @ around 9,000 RPM. Around 110 at the back wheel. Not sure how many ponies mines lost but it still goes fine. It’s pretty heavy at 270Kg wet weight but even with my fat arse on it, it’s a pretty quick point to point tourer and can eat up the miles in a hurray and is pretty comfortable compared to a sports bike. Not what you’d call a fast bike by any stretch but ample grunt when you get the revs up and it always made me smile like a lunatic when I did this. 😇

6 speed box makes for lazy RPM at highway speeds but this does mean changing down several gears if you want to get it to party. 6th is actually a bit too tall at legal speeds here in Australia and sitting on 100 I generally wouldn’t even pull top. At around 140 to 160 it cruises beautifully in top (apparently) 😇

One of the reasons I stopped riding it was because most people don’t seem to have much of a sense of humour about such things any more, so will have to think long and hard before I get back on it.
Jeez, I'd think that 135bhp, at relatively low rpm compared to some modern bikes, would be plenty. I can quite imagine how that would put a smile on your face,...we have the same "smile" when we put the foot down in our GTSR, & hear & feel those 8 cylinders working!
Pickles.

Pedro_The_Swift
30th July 2019, 11:49 AM
not to labour the point,,

I didnt know there was such a thing...
:Thump:

Internet Pinball Machine Database: Williams 'Black Knight 2000' (https://ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=311)

Redback
24th August 2019, 08:52 AM
Not a bad bike the CBR1000, have fun with the re-furb and in 4 yrs you can put it on Club Rego if you want, 25yrs if memory serves me in VIC, 30yrs in NSW.

Homestar
24th August 2019, 10:54 AM
Thanks - and yep, it’s 25 years here so not far away to have it on club rego. 👍