SDV6 / 3.0TDV6 Engine Number Location?

[AlexRS4]

Trying to transfer my rego in SA and the bloke needs to sight the engine number. He sent me away yesterday after 'not being able to read it due to rust'.

Anyone know where this is on the block? I'm trying to clean it up but can't find it. Have searched but no luck.

[Tombie]

To find the one on the block requires the engine be lifted from the frame.

Hence the plate on top of the engine.

Try some fine Wet & Dry sandpaper to remove the rust.

[AlexRS4]

Turns out SA they need to see the block. This involves booking the car in to remove the starter motor and getting it cleaned with photos taken by a trusted mechanic.

What a pain. If any others find themselves in this situation - I am booked in to PCB Landrovers. Solitaire can also do it.

They take a few days to get in so make sure you book far enough in advance that you don't run out of registration... like I have.

[Tombie]

What a load of rubbish they are telling you.

It does NOT need such. Basil135 and myself purchased interstate and drove over. The tag on the top is acceptable.

Where are you trying to have this done?

Cheers

[Eric SDV6SE]

Rubbish, like Tombie says. The SA "vehicle registration fact sheet" says to allow 1 hour and no booking required. Doubt they can lift the engine etc in that time. Both the plate at the windscreen and the vin display on the instrument cluster should be more than sufficient.

[AlexRS4]

Was at Regency Park. I took the vehicle in and was sent away due to 'rust in the way of viewing the engine number'.

After speaking to Solitaire and PCB I've now heard of quite a few people having to get this done - maybe it depends on the guy at the inspection place but sounds like they're getting more strict and want to see the stamp on the block and not accepting the top plate.

Edit- not the end of the world though. I'll get all the fluids changed in the diffs, transfer case, transmission, brake lines etc and have one or two other bits fixed up while it's there and have PCB do a general check over.

[scarry]

Mine was bought interstate as well.

SWMBO took it to main roads(QLd),the guy gave up looking for it and said,it will be all OK.[biggrin]

[Tombie]

I live in Whyalla, country cop (Pom) walked out, read the tag and a few $$ later it was sorted.

[discorevy]

would be worth swapping the tags on the 3.0 litre versions when they get replaced due to cracking

[Tombie]

would be worth swapping the tags on the 3.0 litre versions when they get replaced due to cracking

Never seen one successfully removed without evidence of tampering.

Best to order new ones from dealer.

[josh.huber]

I had similar issue, I told mechanic there is no visible proof that engine had ever been removed, therefore no reason to investigate further, he called RTA (nsw) they told him if it was in his opinion of a mechanic that the engine had never been removed and that the engine number shown on valve cover matched paperwork then it was ok to pass the identification process. Any mechanic or man with two hands can spot an engine that has been replaced at some stage, maybe call an Indy that's local who can do the job or call the authority yourself.

[Aussie Jeepster]

I'm in Adelaide and took my v6 petrol to Lonsdale. After an hour tryingvro find it, i had to take it to sovereign and get them to photo it. My wife had a similar problem with her Volvo c70. Must be an SA thing.

[discorevy]

Never seen one successfully removed without evidence of tampering.

Best to order new ones from dealer.


Takes 5 minutes with a right angled O ring pick, easy and would save potential stress down the track153847153848153849

[AlexRS4]

Got this all sorted through PCB Landrovers. They dropped the starter off to get to the engine number, take photos and clean it up.

I spoke to a different guy at the inspection place when I went back. They definitely don't accept the top plate as evidence. He said they had a car with a stolen engine and top plates changed, found after it had been through inspection and now they only accept the block number.

Ah well all done and wasn't too expensive. Gave me an excuse to have all the gearbox, diff and transfer case fluids changed at the same time and PCB gave it a general look over and found a few other bits to be fixed next time it's in. So a worthwhile exercise in the end.

[101RRS]

Well that is about the only place in the world that happens.

Can you imagine what it would be like in NSW where you have rego inspections every year. Each year the starter would have to be dropped out just to get your roadworthy.

Maybe some people in SA need to get with the programme.

Now I understand why my 3.5 V8 in my 101 has a one off engine number stamped in the top passenger side of the block near the bell housing - with the 101 exhaust manifolds on it the engine number cannot be read so, now that I understand the SA process, it explains the second "SA police type" engine number stamped near the bell housing.

This number is nothing like the correct number, but is easy to read and saves having to pull the exhaust manifold off to read the number.

Garry

[Tombie]

It would just be Regency Park on another power trip.

The irony is that the mechanic could just send any old photo he had, no guarantee it’s of that vehicle!

[Aussie Jeepster]

It would just be Regency Park on another power trip.

The irony is that the mechanic could just send any old photo he had, no guarantee it’s of that vehicle!
Mine was at Lonsdale - but the same power trip applies!

I remember when I had my Wrangler done (at Lonsdale also), the guy could not find an engine number anywhere (I purchased it in Melbourne).
In the end, he found a casting number somewhere near where the engine number was supposed to be, and went with that.
The engine number was forever different on the rego paperwork to the Jeep data.
Sigh!

[AlexRS4]

It's a bit frustrating but it's not really the end of the world. In SA you only need an identity inspection when buying a car from interstate. If you transfer the vehicle in the same name, not needed. If you buy a car in SA, not needed. The inspection is a no booking needed free inspection.

No annual pink slips. No roadworthy certificates. It's typically a painless process.

[Tombie]

Definitely not the end of the world here [emoji41]

Pull up, Police office has a quick look, show him the number on the intake. Pay the fee and gone.

No naffing around [emoji6] and no comments about the depth of tint [emoji2937]

[kblof]

Hi Guys
Thanks for the info in this thread.
I just had the same thing happen at Regency Pk for my NSW bought HSE.
I came home ****ed off but searched on the net and was looking at removing the starter motor etc at home. Looking around and under the car I discovered taking the drivers wheel off and removing a heat shield and bending another (it bent back) I could see the section that needed cleaning albeit 2-300 mm in from guard.
So out with the degreaser and fabbed up an old broom stick with a rag taped to the end, I was successful after 4 or 5 goes to rub the crud off and see the numbers, win winhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/icons/icon7.png . I would soak with degreaser then rub with the broom and wash off with high pressure garden hose.
I think I was lucky that it didn't have much crud over it.
The Regency Pk guy said he has heard it costing between 2 and 700 bucks for a mechanic to do it.
The degreaser Ii used is from Bunnings called oomph its a green gel type spray, the guys on the Patrol forums use it for cleaning carbon from inlet manifolds once removed.

[jnej7379]

Hi just had the same issue at Regency ! Removing Drivers wheel heat shield and bending cleaning were you able to get a clear photo ? I have been given paper work which requires a clear photo
Cheers
Jason




Thanks for the info in this thread.
I just had the same thing happen at Regency Pk for my NSW bought HSE.
I came home ****ed off but searched on the net and was looking at removing the starter motor etc at home. Looking around and under the car I discovered taking the drivers wheel off and removing a heat shield and bending another (it bent back) I could see the section that needed cleaning albeit 2-300 mm in from guard.
So out with the degreaser and fabbed up an old broom stick with a rag taped to the end, I was successful after 4 or 5 goes to rub the crud off and see the numbers, win winhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/icons/icon7.png . I would soak with degreaser then rub with the broom and wash off with high pressure garden hose.
I think I was lucky that it didn't have much crud over it.
The Regency Pk guy said he has heard it costing between 2 and 700 bucks for a mechanic to do it.
The degreaser Ii used is from Bunnings called oomph its a green gel type spray, the guys on the Patrol forums use it for cleaning carbon from inlet manifolds once removed.[/QUOTE]

[Tombie]

The engine number is on top of the manifold.
Under the cover. It’s accepted by Regency.

The plate on the inlet is there for the very reason that it’s impossible to see underneath.

[Carlos66]

Hi Guy's just a quick one, followed I think it was Fossickers recommendations on how to get at the VIN number on the block without removing starter motor, and he was right, cleaned it up & took some photos, hopefully should be ok, Sorry cant down load the photos

[DiscoJeffster]

The engine number is on top of the manifold.
Under the cover. It’s accepted by Regency.

The plate on the inlet is there for the very reason that it’s impossible to see underneath.

Unless you got new manifolds presumably

[Carlos66]

Hi Guy's just a quick one, followed I think it was Fossickers recommendations on how to get at the VIN number on the block without removing starter motor, and he was right, cleaned it up & took some photos, hopefully should be ok, Sorry cant down load the photos

Sent numerous photos in of number on the Engine block, along with photos of the vin number by windscreen, to the email on bottom of failure sheet, next day got a nice email from the same inspector that all was good and to collect pass sheet the following day and pay the fee.

[Tombie]

Unless you got new manifolds presumably

You can refit the tag, you snap the bases off and push it onto the new one

[discorevy]

Never seen one successfully removed without evidence of tampering.

Best to order new ones from dealer.


Takes 5 minutes with a right angled O ring pick, easy and would save potential stress down the track153847153848153849


Unless you got new manifolds presumably


You can refit the tag, you snap the bases off and push it onto the new one


Yep

[Tombie]

:)

[loanrangie]

Gently prise the tabs up with a small flat blade screwdriver then tap them flat again and push back on - sorted.

[jasonb]

I visited Lonsdale Inspection centre on Thursday and the MY2012 RRSport 3.0 purchased from a dealer in NSW - failed on several points. 1. Compliance plate/sticker missing or unreadable 2. Tint too dark. 3. Unable to sight the Engine number. Any help you can give me would be appreciated - especially location of the Engine number. I've been told it could be behind the starter motor - I can get to the Starter motor from underneath just unsure how to remove. Thanks JasonB

[Aussie Jeepster]

I visited Lonsdale Inspection centre on Thursday and the MY2012 RRSport 3.0 purchased from a dealer in NSW - failed on several points. 1. Compliance plate/sticker missing or unreadable 2. Tint too dark. 3. Unable to sight the Engine number. Any help you can give me would be appreciated - especially location of the Engine number. I've been told it could be behind the starter motor - I can get to the Starter motor from underneath just unsure how to remove. Thanks JasonB

I took mine to Soverign and they photographed it, and put the photo with a stat dec.
Idiotic SA system

[jasonb]

Any idea where Sovereign found it? As I can't see it anywhere near the Starter Motor? Also what did Sovereign charge - as car doesn't have any Registration at the moment so I would have to get another Unregistered permit etc. The engine has clearly not been removed since it was built.

[Narangga]

Any idea where Sovereign found it? As I can't see it anywhere near the Starter Motor? Also what did Sovereign charge - as car doesn't have any Registration at the moment so I would have to get another Unregistered permit etc. The engine has clearly not been removed since it was built.

Look in this thread: TDV6 engine number location (https://www.aulro.com/afvb/l319-discovery-3-and-4-a/301104-tdv6-engine-number-location.html)

[Graeme]

This is where the number is on a MY10 3.0 block, on the flat area on the right side immediately rearwards of the bottom rear engine mount bolt. I can just make out numbers but the area hasn't been cleaned.
194315

[Aussie Jeepster]

Any idea where Sovereign found it? As I can't see it anywhere near the Starter Motor? Also what did Sovereign charge - as car doesn't have any Registration at the moment so I would have to get another Unregistered permit etc. The engine has clearly not been removed since it was built.
No idea - I left it with them and picked it up at the end of the day.
I never need to find it after that!

[Rexxy01]

Hi all my RR sport tdv6 is due in tomorrow and I am looking at taking it to Regency for a ID. It has a new engine block and just passed blue slip in NSW so I expect it will be easily visible (in theory)

Do you think it would help at all to remove the under tray for the inspection to give them a bit more room to see? Or will I be out of luck most likely?

Hopefully someone has had a positive experience there !