View Full Version : What is the BEST external use glue/adhesive?
Pickles2
22nd August 2019, 07:58 PM
This thread is being written by someone who is nearly 100% useless "on the tools".
Anyway, I'm trying to work out how to keep leaves from a MASSIVE council gum tree from entering our gutters, particularly at the rear of our home where gutter cleaning necessitates me climbing on to the roof, .. not a good idea at my age,...70+!
What I need to do is to be able to glue fine netting (mosquito netting) on to my roof tiles, across the top of the gutter, and glued to a metal structure on the other side of the gutter, sort of form a "net" over the gutter, that will let water through but not leaf drop which would be washed away.
I've seen a product Selleys Liquid Nails "Instant Hold",....so whilst my description of what is required may not be clear, would this product be capable of gluing netting (immediate grip no clamping reqired) to roof tiles and withstand rain/heat etc,..if not what about Gorilla Glue etc, or maybe one of you guys knows of another adhesive that will work instantly without the need for clamping?
I'm regularly made aware that there are many extremely practical "Mr Fixit" type guys on here, so maybe someone has a few clues!
Thanks, Pickles.
350RRC
22nd August 2019, 08:12 PM
Don't waste your time with the glue.
You should be able to lift the second row of tiles a little bit and get the top of a strip mesh under those and it should stay there just by letting the tiles down.
Then it goes over the lower course of tiles and over the edge of the spout. No leaves in spout.
Yes the downside of the mesh can be glued, etc, but in reality there is no reason to do so because you will still need to be able to have 'free access' to your spout to hose the dirt out.
All you need for the mesh going over the edge of the spout is maybe some sort of straight edge it can be attached to that can be lifted for cleaning the dirt out of the spout.
DL
V8Ian
22nd August 2019, 08:28 PM
On the end of the mesh ,under the tiles, put a small nut and bolt with a washer either side of the mesh, every 2-3 feet, so the mesh cant blow out from under the tiles.
Bigbjorn
22nd August 2019, 08:49 PM
Perhaps the offending tree might get sick and die?
DiscoMick
22nd August 2019, 10:15 PM
Yes, just slide the mesh under the outside edge of the tiles. I have used screws into the top of the gutter and Sikaflex at various times to hold the mesh in place.
loanrangie
23rd August 2019, 11:35 AM
Exterior use silicone will do the job if you need to glue it.
Pickles2
23rd August 2019, 02:26 PM
Thank you for your replies so far, I do appreciate any help I can get.
The reason I have to climb on the roof is that my rear patio is covered, a later addition by the first home owner, so the gutters are an "L"shape where the roof used to end before the patio cover was built.
There is also a valley at the inside corner which seems to attract leaves like a magnet, which of course wash straight into the gutter, in addition to what comes off the roof......any ideas?
Thank you all for reading this. Pickles.
NB: my neighbor & I are trying to have the 80-90' gum tree removed, as its branches overhang both our properties. We have no issue with trees, but planting such a large tree in a small suburban street has not been a good idea,....mind you when challenged by a home owner (since deceased), on the sensibility of planting a gum tree in this location around 40 yrs ago, He was told "Oh don't worry, it's only a small one, it'll only grow to 12-15', well now it's 80-90' & still growing rapidly!
350RRC
23rd August 2019, 06:16 PM
Thank you for your replies so far, I do appreciate any help I can get.
The reason I have to climb on the roof is that my rear patio is covered, a later addition by the first home owner, so the gutters are an "L"shape where the roof used to end before the patio cover was built.
There is also a valley at the inside corner which seems to attract leaves like a magnet, which of course wash straight into the gutter, in addition to what comes off the roof......any ideas?
Thank you all for reading this. Pickles.
NB: my neighbor & I are trying to have the 80-90' gum tree removed, as its branches overhang both our properties. We have no issue with trees, but planting such a large tree in a small suburban street has not been a good idea,....mind you when challenged by a home owner (since deceased), on the sensibility of planting a gum tree in this location around 40 yrs ago, He was told "Oh don't worry, it's only a small one, it'll only grow to 12-15', well now it's 80-90' & still growing rapidly!
Put a net over the valley. cheap bird mesh as in what vineyards use. Just go from ridge to ridge.
The trick with leaf management problems in valleys and gutters is to :
1. keep them out of them.
2. keep the leaves elevated relatively so that wind will disperse them. Even onto the ground is good because they're easy to deal with there.
The reason I suggested the second layer of tiles with the mesh anchoring, that would hang over the outside edge of your spout, is because it leaves a slope for the leaves to fall off and no flat area where they can collect.
DL
Pedro_The_Swift
23rd August 2019, 06:53 PM
The best exterior (bulk) use glue is probably Sikaflex,,
and so it should be at the price... [wink11]
ozscott
24th August 2019, 05:00 AM
The best exterior (bulk) use glue is probably Sikaflex,,
and so it should be at the price... [wink11]Pedro I love Sikaflex but found a product I like better in my boating adventures...Fixseal MSP15. if you find Sika sticky try this stuff. Cheers
Pedro_The_Swift
24th August 2019, 05:46 AM
I know how this will sound,,,,
but I've not had much to do with sausages... [bighmmm]
https://www.pyroteknc.com/assets/products/features/_resampled/setwidthWzQ1NV0/fixseal-blk-bg-main.jpg
stickier that sika?? and not in a cartridge??
Oh My...
ozscott
24th August 2019, 07:58 AM
I know how this will sound,,,,
but I've not had much to do with sausages... [bighmmm]
https://www.pyroteknc.com/assets/products/features/_resampled/setwidthWzQ1NV0/fixseal-blk-bg-main.jpg
stickier that sika?? and not in a cartridge??
Oh My...Settle Pedro settle
ozscott
24th August 2019, 08:00 AM
For quite a few years I have been using Fixseal to retain and seal boat bung fitting, through transom fittings etc. Man once it's gone off that is it.
Cheers
DiscoMick
24th August 2019, 10:34 AM
Put a net over the valley. cheap bird mesh as in what vineyards use. Just go from ridge to ridge.
The trick with leaf management problems in valleys and gutters is to :
1. keep them out of them.
2. keep the leaves elevated relatively so that wind will disperse them. Even onto the ground is good because they're easy to deal with there.
The reason I suggested the second layer of tiles with the mesh anchoring, that would hang over the outside edge of your spout, is because it leaves a slope for the leaves to fall off and no flat area where they can collect.
DLShade cloth with loops and ropes should work.
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