Impressed with BlackBetty

[LandyAndy]

Hi Guys
This weekend marked the start of firewood cutting.
Ive never towed much weight behind the Disco2,and was very impressed.Going out the trailer was let its presence known on the hills,its a 11x5 tanden,weighing 460kg.My mate in his Tojo 80ser with a NA 4.2 diesel wasnt keeping up on the hills,and he had a single axle trailer.
We loaded them up with jarrah and headed home,this was the best part.It didnt go any slower with the trailer full.I had plenty more wood on board and the poor old tojo was left for dead.Yes I did rub it in that I only had 2.5lts https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
I got another load today and put it over the local weighbridge,1990kg all up.The trailer is unbraked and only legal for 999kg https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
I tried the ABS out on a gravel track at 60ks,it took a long time to stop,but was at least totally steerable.
Thinking about building a more suitable single axle off-road trailer,WITH BRAKES.
Andrew

[sumo]

Andy I think we are talking about REAL TORQUE! here. The jap stuff, cars, trucks, whatever, rely on high revs high turbo boost , to get their power.

Sarcastic mongrel arn"t I

Cheers Sumo.

[Jamo]

You should have run a line from the trailer to the tojo and pulled the lot!


I've got a mate who had a 4.2 LC100 and he ended up trading it for the TD LC100, 'cause the naturally aspirated on couldn't pull his camper trailer on the beach!

[CraigE]

I have found that with both the tdi and TD5, that very little pwer and torque is lost towing a trailer and economy does not vary much. Have found with other diesels that quite a lot of power is lost towing.

[Sly]

I concur, the 130 tdi out tows the old GQ 4.2 patrol we used to drag the horse float and car trailer around!

Hey LandyAndy, is it going to be a 4 or 6 ton winter this year ?

[LandyAndy]

Hi Sly
We got a new built in woodheater installed on sat,so the house will use yeaps less as its like a blast furnace.
I put the other fire in my shed,where it works heaps better as its free standing.
I enjoy getting out in the bush and giving the chainsaw so the amount used doesnt really matter.
Andrew

[Disco_Drivin_Dude]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE</div><div class='quotemain'> I enjoy getting out in the bush and giving the chainsaw so the amount used doesnt really matter.
Andrew [/b][/quote]

What brand of chainsaw do you use Andrew? Have you had any trouble with it?

I just bought a Husky 142. I hope it is a good saw. I asked around the farmers at work and they all love husky saws.

[Ace]

I have been very happy with the way the 300Tdi tows aswell, it doesnt do it quickly but it does it so easily, for such a small engine towning 3t is a breeze. Good to hear you flogged the tojo though. Did you offer to tow him aswell? https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ Matt

[LandyAndy]

Hi disco Driving Dude.
Mine is a 65cc Dolmar,got it secondhand last year,goes well but not as good as my Echo 65cc twin cylinder I wrote off with a jarrah tree last year.
Huskys are very good saws,better than Still,my next saw will be a brand new Husky 65cc,a mate has one,one mean mother of a saw,but still( https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )plenty light enough to handle.
Are you new to chainsaws???? if so do a course and get shown how to maintain/sharpen it,99% of your greif will be solved.
Goodluck
Andrew

[Disco_Drivin_Dude]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LandyAndy &#064; May 15 2006, 09&#58;28 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Hi disco Driving Dude.
Mine is a 65cc Dolmar,got it secondhand last year,goes well but not as good as my Echo 65cc twin cylinder I wrote off with a jarrah tree last year.
Huskys are very good saws,better than Still,my next saw will be a brand new Husky 65cc,a mate has one,one mean mother of a saw,but still( https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )plenty light enough to handle.
Are you new to chainsaws???? if so do a course and get shown how to maintain/sharpen it,99% of your greif will be solved.
Goodluck
Andrew
[/b][/quote]

Yeah new to chainsaws myself. I got a run down on sharpening, tensioning the chain, and safe operations.

How long does chainsaw course go for and approximate cost?

Oops looks I just highjacked this tread. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Frenchie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Disco_Drivin_Dude &#064; May 15 2006, 08&#58;03 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
What brand of chainsaw do you use Andrew? Have you had any trouble with it?

I just bought a Husky 142. I hope it is a good saw. I asked around the farmers at work and they all love husky saws.
[/b][/quote]

I got a Husky 142 last year and have worked it very very hard. Great saw. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

(Perhaps we need a chainsaw thread.... https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )

[LandyAndy]

Hi DiscoDude
Not sure where you will do a course,I did one last year paid for by my employer as its compulsory for us to hold a ticket.
I would reccomend it if you are new,Ive owned a chainsaw for 15 years or so,I only picked up a few hints on sharpening and different chain types and a few safety issues you become complacent with.A workmate who wasnt happy in using a chainsaw also did the course,he got heaps more out of it and is now quite confident,he actually went out and bought himself a saw instead of buying firewood.
Perhaps ask where you bought the saw,if they cant help they should know who provides the courses(ours was 1 day).
It would be money well spent if you havent had alot to do with them.
Andrew

[Frenchie]

Join the SES, you&#39;ll get trained for free&#33; https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Ace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LandyAndy &#064; May 15 2006, 09&#58;28 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Hi disco Driving Dude.
Mine is a 65cc Dolmar,got it secondhand last year,goes well but not as good as my Echo 65cc twin cylinder I wrote off with a jarrah tree last year.
Huskys are very good saws,better than Still,my next saw will be a brand new Husky 65cc,a mate has one,one mean mother of a saw,but still( https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ https://www.aulro.com/afvb/ )plenty light enough to handle.
Are you new to chainsaws???? if so do a course and get shown how to maintain/sharpen it,99% of your greif will be solved.
Goodluck
Andrew
[/b][/quote]

Why do you say that Stihl chainsaws arent as good as the huskies Andy? My old man has an old Stihl 08S and the damn thing is awsome. Just curious as within the next year or so i will be in the market for one. Matt

[Disco_Drivin_Dude]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ace &#064; May 17 2006, 10&#58;17 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Why do you say that Stihl chainsaws arent as good as the huskies Andy? My old man has an old Stihl 08S and the damn thing is awsome. Just curious as within the next year or so i will be in the market for one. Matt
[/b][/quote]

I&#39;m not entirely sure, as I was under the impression that Stihl (pronouned "steel" in the US) was the cream of the crop. The farmers I talked to about saws informed me that Stihl was taken over by another company and build cost and quality were cut to ribbons.

If this infomation is incorrect I&#39;m sorry for putting you on a bum steer. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Ace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Disco_Drivin_Dude &#064; May 17 2006, 10&#58;41 AM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
I&#39;m not entirely sure, as I was under the impression that Stihl (pronouned "steel" in the US) was the cream of the crop. The farmers I talked to about saws informed me that Stihl was taken over by another company and build cost and quality were cut to ribbons.

If this infomation is incorrect I&#39;m sorry for putting you on a bum steer. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/
[/b][/quote]

I have always thought that Stihl were the best chainsaws on the market, my ex girlfriends dad had three of them, two farm bosses and a Magnum. We put them through their paces on more than a few occasions and they just ate what ever we threw at them up. I havent heard of them changing ownership, who bought them?

The school has a Husqvarna chainsaw, only a small one, and i cant say i am real keen on it, the previous ag teach didnt really maintain it that well, it has been maintained since i got here, he used to put engine oil in instead of bar oil. Having said that it does start everytime (there is a knack to it though). Matt

[weeds]

my work has a fleet of huskies, never had a problem till the weedend when i was out the aulro boys at boonah and it would not start, i&#39;m thinking it the reed valve between the carbie and the intake

[Ace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(weeds &#064; May 17 2006, 12&#58;11 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
my work has a fleet of huskies, never had a problem till the weedend when i was out the aulro boys at boonah and it would not start, i&#39;m thinking it the reed valve between the carbie and the intake
[/b][/quote]

Thats more murphy and his damn law than anything else. Do you find them to be a good chainsaw Weeds? I dont need one at the moment but when we move i would like to have a wood fire put in the house we buy if it doesnt have one. I have always had my eye on a Stihl Magum but now i am not so sure. Matt

[crump]

Most TAFE colleges run chainsaw courses, cost a coupla hundred at best and generally a 2 day course depending if you want to be accredited for tree felling or just cross cutting. The guys at work say"stihl by name and still by nature".Buggers to start, go the Husky with manual decompression.

[Ace]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(crump &#064; May 17 2006, 02&#58;05 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Most TAFE colleges run chainsaw courses, cost a coupla hundred at best and generally a 2 day course depending if you want to be accredited for tree felling or just cross cutting. The guys at work say"stihl by name and still by nature".Buggers to start, go the Husky with manual decompression.
[/b][/quote]

Speaking of chainsaw courses i did training for a new course called Primary Industries in 2003, for which i had to do a week of on the job training on a property between Orange and Wellington. The local chainsaw instructor for tafe was there to do demonstrations etc and he was telling us that the producers of McLoeds Daughters ran him at work one day because they needed a scene in the show to be technically correct so they dont have the OHS people on their back if they did it wrong.

I dont agree with the Stihl by name still by nature comment all sthil chainsawas i have used have been spot on, which is why i was going to buy one. But again i think it comes down to the whole car thing, if a chainsaw, like a car, is serviced and well looked after there is no reason why it shouldnt be as reliable as the next brand. Matt

[Frenchie]

Stihl are a good saw, no doubt about it, we use them exclusively in SES, and have no problems.

When I bought mine I was shopping for a small saw, and the Husky was better specced for the price. It has also been an excellent saw.

It&#39;s sort of like comparing a top of the range D3 to a RRS, no clear winner, just slightly different. Not like comparing any Landie to a Toyonissanwankmobile where there is a clear winner&#33; https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[LandyAndy]

Hi Ace
No probs with the Stihl,power wise.The cutting is all up to the way its sharpened.
My Echo twin(no longer available) has heaps more tourque than the eqivelent Stihl/Husky.
The Echo is on par with the Sthil for vibration thru the handles.Use a Dolmar or Husky for a hour or 3,they blow everything else away in regards to the vibes passed on.
I hate using the Sthils at work,my wrists ache for days after a good workout.When we get a storm come thru and there is heaps of work I grab my own saw.
The instructor who did our course was a 1 eyed Stihl man,he did warn against buying the Woodboss/Farmboss saws.He says they are big time budget machines,not built for continuous work.
The bigger Huskys,Dolmars and 0 Series Stihls are forrestry saws designed to work all day every day.
Frenchie,the reason Shires/SES etc use Stihl gear is Stihl give huge deals that only these sorts of organisations are open to,they get a saw from the dealer at retail price but get huge rebates from Stihl.
Andrew

[Disco_Drivin_Dude]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LandyAndy &#064; May 17 2006, 10&#58;27 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>

Use a Dolmar or Husky for a hour or 3,they blow everything else away in regards to the vibes passed on.

Andrew
[/b][/quote]

I got to agree with you there Andrew. Might just be because my husky saw is only about 6 hours old now, but all I can say is "What vibes, the missus ain&#39;t havin fun with this thing&#33;" https://www.aulro.com/afvb/

[Frenchie]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(LandyAndy &#064; May 17 2006, 10&#58;27 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>
Frenchie,the reason Shires/SES etc use Stihl gear is Stihl give huge deals that only these sorts of organisations are open to,they get a saw from the dealer at retail price but get huge rebates from Stihl.
Andrew
[/b][/quote]

You have a point there,

same reason the SES uses Troopies&#33; https://www.aulro.com/afvb/