Please use this area now the new Defender has been released.

[incisor]

Please use this area now the new Defender has been released

[ozscott]

OK!!! First post.

[Pedro_The_Swift]

How old are you?? [bigrolf][tonguewink]

[ozscott]

My kids ask me the same thing Peter!

Cheers

[SPROVER]

Yes !! Third post[emoji16] And it still looks like a Skoda [emoji1787]

[ozscott]

So the S model that has leather seats is the equivalent of $90k.Aust without onroad costs. Smallest diesel motor selected. No options like fridge in front of third bucket at front (or maybe metallic paint etc). So keen to know what thatmodel is here. Wonder if you can delete option the 19's to 18's at no cost...?

Cheers

[ozscott]

Rear quarter view looks great...then you move to the side...ohh...hmmm...then move to the front and I'm lost. Having said that hopefully a decent bar might help with the soft look.

Cheers

[Pickles2]

If I was going to buy one, it would be the 90X, which is available with the 400HP PETROL ENGINE. 0-100ks in 6.5 secs would make for quite an "exciting" Defender, although I do understand that others may be looking for more practical attributes!
Pickles.

[SPROVER]

Did I read that correctly? 85 ECUs...[emoji50] good luck there reading 475 different codes when it plays up! And it will. [emoji1787][emoji1787]

[rick130]

Wonder if you can delete option the 19's to 18's at no cost...?

Cheers

Yes you can!

I did a build an hour ago and downsized the 19's to 18's

My build came in over 56,000 quid!! [emoji50]


And I'm still trying to find out t/case and diff ratios....

I think I'll be D2 shod for a while yet.
I do have first right of refusal on my old 130, too. [emoji12]

[RobA]

OK surprised this has not already been posted. Or I've missed it. Makes for the most detailed read of everything I have yet to find. Lots of stuff not on the configurators. Enjoy!

USofA specs, information, pricing et al at OvalNews this link 2020 Land Rover Defender US Product & Order Guide >> OVALNEWS.com – Always fanatical; Occasionally interesting Land Rover & Range Rover News (https://www.ovalnews.com/2019/09/2020-land-rover-defender-us-product-order-guide.html)

Rob

[SBD4]

OK surprised this has not already been posted. Or I've missed it. Makes for the most detailed read of everything I have yet to find. Lots of stuff not on the configurators. Enjoy!

USofA specs, information, pricing et al at OvalNews this link 2020 Land Rover Defender US Product & Order Guide >> OVALNEWS.com – Always fanatical; Occasionally interesting Land Rover & Range Rover News (https://www.ovalnews.com/2019/09/2020-land-rover-defender-us-product-order-guide.html)

Rob

Those prices are very reasonable. You could tick a lot of options for not very much money. Multiplying the prices by 1.5 to translate to AUD shows me how much LRA loads up here. USD 700 for metallic paint would put it at about AUD 1000 but here it costs AUD 2000+. It will be interesting to compare pricing once it is release here.

[grey_ghost]

Unfortunately you can never compare US (or Europe) prices to OZ prices.

Not just LR - but BMW, Merc, Audi, etc.

I hope that LR will be price competitive - but I fear that LR will price things along the lines of “we will charge what we think people will pay”.

Anyway - I am waiting for AUS pricing....

[ozscott]

Yep. US market is just so vast. They don't have to pay.silly prices for imports.

Cheers

[grey_ghost]

LR have been pretty clear that they want to “break imto” the American market...

The majority of the videos that I have seen are LHD...

Which is sad considering Britain is RHD...

[Odysseyman]

[QUOTE=RobA;2940075]OK surprised this has not already been posted. Or I've missed it. Makes for the most detailed read of everything I have yet to find. Lots of stuff not on the configurators. Enjoy!

USofA specs, information, pricing et al at OvalNews this link 2020 Land Rover Defender US Product & Order Guide >> OVALNEWS.com – Always fanatical; Occasionally interesting Land Rover & Range Rover News (https://www.ovalnews.com/2019/09/2020-land-rover-defender-us-product-order-guide.html)

Tried this link but it doesn’t seem to work, or maybe just not up here in East Arnhem Land [bigsad]

cheers

David H

[Tins]

LR have been pretty clear that they want to “break imto” the American market...

The majority of the videos that I have seen are LHD...

Which is sad considering Britain is RHD...

This bloke seems to think the Defender will be well equipped from standard from $US 50k.

YouTube (https://youtu.be/ZbiHyKfw1IM)

I guess I could get used to LHD, high fat food and Trump.

[SBD4]

Unfortunately you can never compare US (or Europe) prices to OZ prices.

Not just LR - but BMW, Merc, Audi, etc.

I hope that LR will be price competitive - but I fear that LR will price things along the lines of “we will charge what we think people will pay”.

Anyway - I am waiting for AUS pricing....

Yes, it's called the "I live in Australia so charge me double" tax.[bigrolf]

[Tins]

Yes, it's called the "I live in Australia so charge me double" tax.[bigrolf]

Nope, it's called the " I live in Australia and have to comply with the ADRs" tax. LR make cars for ALL markets, but Aus has some of the most stringent rules of all the RHD markets.

list-of-left-driving-countries (https://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/list-of-left-driving-countries/)

A little bit hard to deal with really. The UK don't have the same requirements we do. LR MUST focus on the biggest markets.

Guys, the world has changed.

[SBD4]

Nope, it's called the " I live in Australia and have to comply with the ADRs" tax. LR make cars for ALL markets, but Aus has some of the most stringent rules of all the RHD markets.

list-of-left-driving-countries (https://www.worldstandards.eu/cars/list-of-left-driving-countries/)

A little bit hard to deal with really. The UK don't have the same requirements we do. LR MUST focus on the biggest markets.

Guys, the world has changed.
It's OK, I do know how it works.[thumbsupbig]

[Tins]

It's OK, I do know how it works.[thumbsupbig]

Great. Can you tell the rest of us?

Because I'm not sure you do..... I'm not sure I do either.....

[ChookD2]

[QUOTE=RobA;2940075]OK surprised this has not already been posted. Or I've missed it. Makes for the most detailed read of everything I have yet to find. Lots of stuff not on the configurators. Enjoy!

USofA specs, information, pricing et al at OvalNews this link 2020 Land Rover Defender US Product & Order Guide >> OVALNEWS.com – Always fanatical; Occasionally interesting Land Rover & Range Rover News (https://www.ovalnews.com/2019/09/2020-land-rover-defender-us-product-order-guide.html)

Tried this link but it doesn’t seem to work, or maybe just not up here in East Arnhem Land [bigsad]

cheers

David H

Try this one

http://cdn.ovalnews.com/pdf/L663-Defender-MY20-US-Order-Guide-v1.pdf

should take you straight to pdf.

[SBD4]

Great. Can you tell the rest of us?

Because I'm not sure you do..... I'm not sure I do either.....

We are not that special, our ADRs pretty much follow what happens in Europe so, no, we are not getting charged extra because of any unique manufacturing requirement for our market. Where there are specific requirements it is most likely minor (like global closing on windows) and is simply configured in the CCF and controlled by software.

The landed cost of the vehicle is the the price the LRA buys it for + 5% duty + Insurance + Freight with GST applied to that total. LRA make their margin selling to the dealer and the dealer in turn selling to the public.

From Here:
Australian Design Rules (https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/vehicles/design/)


The decision to develop a Third Edition of the ADRs was made at the 63rd meeting of the Australian Transport Advisory Council (ATAC) in February 1983 following a comprehensive review of the vehicle regulatory system. Several major recommendations were endorsed relating to ADR Development. The first was that international harmonisation of vehicle safety standards should be actively pursued, with close attention given to the alignment of vehicle categories and particular ADRs with their international counterparts except where there is sufficient evidence to justify unique requirements. Another was that all regulations relating to the design and construction of new vehicles should be integrated into the national ADR system.

On harmonisation with EU:

The Australian Government's policy is to harmonise the national vehicle safety standards with international regulations where possible and consideration is given to the adoption of the international regulations of the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE). Australia is a signatory to the UNECE 1958 Agreement and the 1998 Agreement. The policy to harmonise is also important to fulfil World Trade Organisation and Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation commitments.

I understand the major influencer between US and AU pricing will be volume the difference is made worse by the local profit taking.

[RANDLOVER]

YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IVZbOpveKA)

CarAdvice reckons AU$ 70K for the basic 110 and 55-60 K for the 90. About the 2min mark in vid.

Cheers,
Randy

[Gregz]

from a snip from one of the walkaround videos in Frankfurt : this equates to AUD $90k for base 110, model on display is AUD $166k . This not including our delightful LCT......they have got to be joking.

[WhiteD3]

Greg,

That's for the X P400 MHEV which I understand is the top of the range?

I would expect the D240 SE to be low 80's so its under the D5 and then optioned up to be 90k.


from a snip from one of the walkaround videos in Frankfurt : this equates to AUD $90k for base 110, model on display is AUD $166k . This not including our delightful LCT......they have got to be joking.

[blackrangie]

from a snip from one of the walkaround videos in Frankfurt : this equates to AUD $90k for base 110, model on display is AUD $166k . This not including our delightful LCT......they have got to be joking.Defender x is the most expensive fully optioned model

Base 110 tipped to be 70k

Base 90 60k

Hopefully we get numbers soon

[Gregz]

Yes, the base price of the X model 110, with the P400 donk, appears to be equiv to $160K AUD, which, for comparison, is a good $25K more than the base price of the top-of-the-line D5 HSE Luxury SD6. Not sure if it will be worth $25k extra in my opinion, but others may have differing opinions. Maybe they ratchet up the prices just for those fancy European Monte Carlo types, and the Au prices will be (much) lower ?

[cjc_td5]

You can't do straight currency conversions when pricing overseas vehicles. The manufacturers price their vehicles higher or lower for the same vehicle in different markets. Hopefully OZ pricing is competitive.

[rover-56]

Yes, it's called the "I live in Australia so charge me double" tax.[bigrolf]

The "Australia Tax". not just on cars.
Terry

[micksta1973]

Just imagine if cars were sold out of airports. I mean, it's $12 for a Mrs Macs Pie. I remember the Ford Capri, built here, sent to the US, and sold for half of what it cost here, plus the Aussie dollar was much stronger then. Pricing will be very interesting. I'll be sticking with my 95 110 thank you very much. New Deefers better leak when it rains, or it won't be the real deal. They may have designed that in for nostalgia.

[SBD4]

....New Deefers better leak when it rains, or it won't be the real deal. They may have designed that in for nostalgia.
It will be sold as a part of the nostalgia pack which will include:

drivers seat moved closer to the door and behind the B pillar
all seals removed from doors
special rain capture drip ports located directly above the feet
"Authentic" rattles and squeaks piped through the audio


I understand it will be initially priced at AUD2500.

[ozscott]

Isn't $2,500 LR's most basic and default option price? Cheers. Unless it's metallic paint of course then double [emoji1787]. Cheers

[WhiteD3]

Just imagine if cars were sold out of airports.

You will be able to soon at Brisvague-is. The Auto mall is coming.

BNE Auto Mall (Stages 1-3) | Brisbane Airport (https://www.bne.com.au/corporate/projects/bne-projects/current-projects/bne-auto-mall-stages-1-3)

[Tombie]

We've placed our deposit and specced ours.

HSE 110 with P400 engine and an extensive options list.

Expected pricing around $95k

[RobA]

We've placed our deposit and specced ours.

HSE 110 with P400 engine and an extensive options list.

Expected pricing around $95k

Did you order in SA or interstate?

We've specced ours but no price for the 6cyl diesel ATM as my experience with 4cyl to tow 2500kg is less than positive when compared to our D4

Rob

[Tombie]

Did you order in SA or interstate?

We've specced ours but no price for the 6cyl diesel ATM as my experience with 4cyl to tow 2500kg is less than positive when compared to our D4

Rob

SA. Didn’t want the diesel this time so optioned the 400bhp petrol for a bit of fun.

[RobA]

SA. Didn’t want the diesel this time so optioned the 400bhp petrol for a bit of fun.

That will certainly a a lot of fun. Looking forward to hearing more post delivery. Which is when BTW?

Rob

[Tombie]

That will certainly a a lot of fun. Looking forward to hearing more post delivery. Which is when BTW?

Rob

They tell us May 2020

[scarry]

We've placed our deposit and specced ours.

HSE 110 with P400 engine and an extensive options list.

Expected pricing around $95k

Is that the price the dealer is expecting,or the price you are expecting,with the dealer not knowing the cost?

My guess is it will be more,going on HSE,petrol,and extensive options.

Just my 2 cents worth.

We have budgeted on $100K,but need to have a very good look at it first.

We are in no rush,just hope the D4 goes for a while yet,and it will.

[Tombie]

Is that the price the dealer is expecting,or the price you are expecting,with the dealer not knowing the cost?

My guess is it will be more,going on HSE,petrol,and extensive options.

Just my 2 cents worth.

We have budgeted on $100K,but need to have a very good look at it first.

We are in no rush,just hope the D4 goes for a while yet,and it will.

Indicative pricing estimate from dealer based on $70k base.

I have allowed a budget of $110k

[RANDLOVER]

Did they have one you could see, sit in, in the flesh so to speak, or did you just have to go off pic's?

[Tombie]

Did they have one you could see, sit in, in the flesh so to speak, or did you just have to go off pic's?

Call it a leap of faith [emoji41]

[blackrangie]

Did they have one you could see, sit in, in the flesh so to speak, or did you just have to go off pic's?With all the high def vids online now, there is very little that hasn't been seen. I would say defenders will find there way to each market pretty soon, nothing compares to in the flesh [emoji1417]

[DiscoClax]

We've placed our deposit and specced ours.

HSE 110 with P400 engine and an extensive options list.

Expected pricing around $95k

That's actually not too bad all things considered. Ignoring old Defender pricing entirely and just looking at what it is and does and has and represents as a vehicle. That's mid spec LC200 territory pricing (during deals time). A significant chunk of coin, yes but really not that much more than the Japanese-based Ute and SUV brigade when you are talking the higher series and this thing is in another league. Thanks for sharing, Tombie.

As an aside...I'll be interested to see if the aftermarket can squeeze 18s over the bigger brake pack. On paper the brakes read much like the L320/322 4 pot Brembo set up so I'm quite hopeful. 19s are no-mans land for 32/33" tyres and 20s are giving a bit too much sidewall away for my preferences.